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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!

    So when will you rename the mod to Better than better than wolves, to reflect the new content? ;p

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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from FlowerChild»

    I can't speak for others and I'd be interested in hearing how many people go on foot at start (from past conversations on that topic though, it seemed to me to be a small minority, and one that was reduced even further by additional changes I made over time), but I always wait for the nether before doing so.


    I didn't follow the entire conversation, but did see this.

    I myself roam for a few days, until i have the means to sustain myself for a few days. i then use that time to mine and gather more crucial resources. After that, several hunting expeditions to keep food up, and beyond that is usually the " stock up and explore the world" phase. At which point i either find a better spot and build my base there, or i return to the original occasionally to restock and advance.

    Finding good materials like iron requires (or greatly benefits from) finding caves, so usually the end of my initial nomad phase is "whenever i find a suitable cave".

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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Wyr3d»

    I think a lot less people would keep asking this question if the thread title was altered to something like:

    Better than Wolves Stand Alone Conversion for 1.5.2 ONLY


    Of course, that's assuming the even read the title - they sure don't read the previous posts.


    Nah, it wouldn't change a thing. People read neither the title nor the opening post, FAQ or even the last comment page.
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from LittleOdie»

    Without the forced hardcore modes that drove most players away from it I would agree. Minecraft is just so much more "better with mods"


    I've been playing some Forge minecraft with friends (since they won't play BTW with me), and while it's infinitely more interesting than vanilla minecraft, i simply don't see any mod working well with BTW, nor do i see any mod reaching this level of quality.

    Virtually every other main mod in virtually every modpack does what BTW does in simpler and easier ways. mods with electricity and item and liquid pipes are ubiquitous. But none of them do it with a feel for what minecraft is, with multiblock construction and proper mobtraps. Putting BTW in those mods will just make 90% of the mod obsolete and the other 10% a mere curiosity. Especially since most people tend to pick the easiest version of something in the modpack. Nobody's gonna use soulforged steel if you can just get powered armor with some coal, iron and obsidian. Yet those are the people that miss the point of this mod.

    I've yet to see a mod that reaches BTW's level in progression, in integration and in terms of a total picture. Seems to me most mods are nowadays designed for a niche in a modpack, hoping that nobody's overriding their features with easier ones.

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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Wyr3d»

    Is it weird that wolves will attack if if you eat wolf chops or a wolf dinner near them, but they don't care if it's a wolf sandwich?


    It's the bread man, it's the bread.
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Feylias»

    Welp, my first few games were Hardcore mode, and after dying three times in that I learned not to hardcore mode. Then I played on merely Hard mode, and learned I'd better leave my pride behind. Now I'm playing on Normal mode, and I'm on the verge of trying to set up some way to have an Easy.


    Well, with BTW, normal mode is already beyond-vanilla hardcore. So there's no shame in that.
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from GuitarFreak392»

    Maybe I am just unlucky, but in most of my spawns there are maybe like 2-3 pigs and that's it. .-.



    How far exactly do you travel during the day? The first day is mostly about achieving a small hideout, but on subsequent days i spent most sunlight searching for wood, turning that into tools and then hunting for animals. Repeat for about 3-4 days to get a supply going, then make a choice for the future: Stay and build a base, or move on for a better spot.


    As long as you dont jump and run too much, you can travel quite a distance with very little food.

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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from GuitarFreak392»

    To be honest, I can only go one or two days before dying in BTW, and it's always because my player is starving. Food is scarce, and it seems like a game of chance on whether you get a good spawn or not.


    It sounds to me like you run and jump too much, because food is plenty (unless you happen to have the unluckiest spawns possible). I mostly spend the first few days mining by night and murdering animals by day.
    Quote from PizzaSHARK»
    I don't blame him for not wanting to spend such a massive amount of time on that.

    Small correction here: its not so much the work it needs to be updated, but the fact that anything beyond 1.5 doesn't offer much to the mod. It would mostly just involve ripping everything out, which makes updating to 1.8 a lot of work for next-to-nothing gain.
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Wyr3d»

    So, I just heard they added bunnies in 1.8. Is this true? Coz, I don't really know how to respond to that. Lucky foot drops? :P




    For a while now, Mojang's MO has been to add needless fluff in stead of fixing critical game problems. Like, absence of progression.
    1.9 will bring a combat overhaul, which sounds promising until you see the plans and realize it's about the player-side only, not about all mobs being a non-threat and boring.
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Lianite»


    EDIT: I retract my question. Was looking back for some information on additional hardcore mods since the last time I played and came across a post from FlowerChild stating his reasons. My apologies for asking stupid repeat questions.


    A piece of advice: read the last page of the thread before posting. The answer to your question is *literally* and i really do mean literally above your post
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Feylias»


    I know and embrace the idea that suggestions are unwelcome. I do heartily wish that getting this thing installed and working was slightly easier.


    You do realize it's Mojang that developed this mod system?
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from Koward»


    but the global flow of deep stupidity and constant harass must be painful to handle.



    It's not nearly as bad as it used to be. There were times when you'd get a dozen pages overnight, only to have it reduced to 2 pages in the morning because the rest was -at its mildest- flaming, update pestering and outright hate.

    EDIT:

    to clarify, the community seem to be worse than ever (for us). Its just that this mod is now mostly left alone.

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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from AllenWL»

    As a side-note, is there a efficient way to use mystery meat as a viable source of food?


    anarchy servers
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from shilohturtle»

    Maybe you should put something in the title indicating that the mod isn't updating to newer versions of Minecraft?


    It says 1.5.2 in the title, what more do you want? Besides every second or third page we get this discussion again and again and again and... well you get the point.

    Also, i posted a snarky comment. What happened to that? Flame wars over updating again?
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    posted a message on Better Than Wolves Total Conversion!
    Quote from FlowerChild»

    If I remember right, wind mills aren't negatively impacted in the desert by storms anyways, making that bit largely irrelevant.


    I can confirm. It was a major reason for me to settle in the desert, until i realized that it was literally the worst biome to settle in every other way.
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