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Quote from Micahjames65

Sign this petition! Let's see if we can keep Minecraft from doing this!
https://www.change.o...-the-eula#share

Quote from ONECOOLDUDE

my predictions

big servers and small servers go pay to play
only very few survive
eventually the payers leave and quit minecraft
those servers die
there are no more public servers
servers are now private and home hosted to avoid pricy fees

Quote from buba141

Why should a few exploitative servers ruin it for all the servers that allowed users to buy well balanced in-game items or abilities for resonable prices? If the big issue was servers pushing people to buy $500 donator kits, Mojang could just set a max donation perk amount of $100, and the issue would shrink dramatically.
If Mojang is serious about enforcing their new rules, I do have a few ideas for server owners who don't want to charge players a monthly/yearly fee. Web ads on the server's website and text ads broadcast in game chat periodically could make some money, especially for large servers. Another possibility is setting up two similar servers on seperate machines, and making one free-to-play and the other pay-to-play. The free-to-play server would have no donation perks, and the pay-to-play server would have all donation perks unlocked. As long as there is no way to move between the servers without manually disconnecting, this setup wouldn't violate the EULA.
Although I don't play EVE Online, I know it allows players to pay for their subscriptions through real money or in-game currency. After paying for a couple months with real money, players will be able to make enough game currency to pay their monthly fee, eliminating the real life cost. Would a system like this violate the new EULA?

Quote from brycep

I own a company that rents out minecraft servers monthly.

1. If I am contacted to shutdown a server how should I handle that?

Quote from BeeJesus

Alright, then. Here's a custom server implementation that needs no special client (I wasn't aware that C#raft did, but it's been a long time). I know for a fact that's true because I've used it before.

Disable any use of Mojang assets and use your own authentication.

What happens next?



I didn't see any name calling in the quoted post.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? The server doesn't run by rules you enjoy and therefore it shouldn't exist?

The new EULA would be relevant if there were no alternatives to pay-to-win servers. That is simply not the case. Pay-to-win is not successful outside ultramassive servers that truly depend on the system to survive.

Quote from Cylan_Tharaith

I have a question asking for clarification of the rules..
(I do not currently run a server, the example of *I* is theoretical)

rule in question..



On this note my example is this:

As of today 6/24/14, the server I operate reaches its "donation goal" (of for example $50) and the perk for that is 7 day XP boost.

Can I restrict that boost to only people who are/were playing/joined my server on or before the day the "reward" was earned?

example:

bonus earned for 7 days on the 24th, person who joins my server on the 25th does not have access to the added feature (as they were not part of the server community when the perk was earned)

The idea here is that, though the restriction is play based.. the new user was not there when the feature was earned by the community, thus has no access to it.

Whatever the next day that the ($50) donation mark is reached (we will say July 1st for example sake); the 7 day count for xp boost is given again, and the member who joined on the 25th now has a 7 day boost to XP along with all existing server members.. but the person who joins on July 2nd does not (until the bonus is earned again).

Would this, or would it not be breaking this new set of rules?

Edit to add..

Basically, I'm asking whether this server rule is allowed :

"To have access to a perk that was community earned, you must be a part of the community on or before the day/time that perk was earned"

Quote from TheMagic

The fact that mojang is destroying half of the community is saddening. Most of the servers will go down. It sucks most because of the fact that they're even taking down the poor servers that use the Little donation money they get to keep the server going. I hope they allow servers to take in donations.

Quote from BeeJesus

This is 100% untrue. It is called clean room design and has been done throughout software history. Bukkit is directly derived from the vanilla server; it is not a different "server code" (as you put it), it's the vanilla server software with an API.

Here's an example.

Quote from erock12

I have a been working on a faction server for a while and I heard about the new Minecraft EULA and I am thinking that I am seeing this wrong. Many faction servers aren't doing much about the new EULA update so I'm thinking if I missed some kind of information or miss interpreted some info. My server runs of kit donation, items, since the new EULA forbids donations besides anything cosmetic how would a faction server deal with it. How would a faction server that is relies on donations to stay up and that the donations are item rewarded get through this. I know that donating was never allowed before (now I do) but I need a way to keep a server up and running. Cosmetic features don't really have that big of an impact on factions server nor do I want to charge people to join my server. If anyone could help me come up with some kind of loop whole or idea or tell me how to get around this that would be great!

Quote from sebdomsan

As per advertisement Elua states nothing about ads so in turn you can most likely (correct me in the case that i am incorrect) use one of the following methods to obtian a profit or funding for and from your server.

• Use a resorce pack to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad
• Use ether a plugin or game modification to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad.

As per my standing on this new event the statments released by the staff concurent to the date of realese. I am "the five in between 0 and 10" due to the fact that I do host a server for this game but also enjoy playing on other servers and just find it anoying to see other players who are both monetary and virtual classes ahead of me and other players due to there monetary inclined position.

Quote from poiihy

I keep forgetting to ask this

There is a server called Lava Craft
It has 'donator ranks' that you can buy and get cool perks.
But also the top 3 monthly voters get a free $25 donator rank

Does this still violate the EULA? Because anyone can get ranks for free BUT it is very hard to do...

Quote from hardcorerobot

I fail to see how anyone can control what I do with my hardware if I am the one paying for it.

Quote from Dranku54

What power does Mojang actually have over private servers? I was on a private server where you had to purchase a donator rank in order to even get spawners while just members couldn't. I asked if anyone knew how I would get a spawner come August and the mods of the server laughed at me saying mojang can't do anything at all and that this EULA means nothing. They said that they cannot touch private servers so they are safe.

In short, most servers are laughing at Mojang beleiving that they are not effected because Mojang cannot touch them. Does mojang even have any actual power of them or are they just doing a show of force that amounts to just barking loudly.

Quote from Jhska

I am still wondering how servers will fund themselves. But I like the idea that good servers that are filled with people with OP armor will be fixed. But comeon, funding still confuses me.

Quote from sebdomsan

So if provided a currency bost provided to all players in a group bought by a member of that group be ok?
As per advertisement Elua states nothing about ads so in turn you can most likely (correct me in the case that i am incorrect) use one of the following methods to obtian a profit or funding for and from your server.

• Use a resorce pack to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad
• Use ether a plugin or game modification to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad.

As per my standing on this new event the statments released by the staff concurent to the date of realese. I am "the five in between 0 and 10" due to the fact that I do host a server for this game but also enjoy playing on other servers and just find it anoying to see other players who are both monetary and virtual classes ahead of me and other players due to there monetary inclined position.

Quote from KataphraktoiUntaken

I dont own a server, there is no ''your'' here. Just curious.

Quote from chocpup08

Guys think about this if you take away payment for servers there still going to have payment methods that mojang can't check and if they can check and shutdown these servers minecraft will start to lose so many members those members will tell there friends not to purchase the game and the game will die servers need donations to survive all mojang cares about is getting realms popular and yes realms costs a larger fee than a normal server to set up and run this is solely for money and has nothing to do with the players or whats fair on non donating players

Quote from GateArgon

but they put this up there encouraging this!! i would rather have pay to win then worry about servers abusing payment plans

Quote from GateArgon

"Can I charge for access to my server?Yes. How players join a server is up to you. Single entrance fees or subscriptions are both allowed.How often am I allowed to charge players to access my server?You can charge players as regularly as you like. You can even charge for timed access if you think it’s the best way to monetise your server."this is actually a huge mistake now servers can be even more illegit now that payment plans are allowed!!!Because there is no specific guidelines as to how 1 server can charge to play a server we will now see new hell like cell phone companies pull!for example of payment abuse: they can add hidden fees such as a 200$ fee to cancel your server payment subscription!! now things are really gona get bad!

Quote from Kuthedk

Just to clarify what I was saying, All players (aka members) on the server must receive the perk/boost. You can not separate players into different groups that favor the players in a specific group. Basic rule of thumb, if it can cause a change in the game play experience, then it must change the game play experience for everyone who plays on that server.

Quote from Kuthedk

you can have purchases and or donation goals set up for non-cosmetic things; such that once a purchase or donation goal is reached/ obtained, everyone who is a member of that server gains access to that perk or in your case every member (not a specific group, but all members) gains that currency boost after someone purchases it for the entire server or a group of people reach a donation goal and unlocks that for the entire server. Again I stress the point, ALL MEMBERS of the server must receive the perk/boost if it is not a cosmetic purchase.

• Use a resorce pack to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad
• Use ether a plugin or game modification to administer visual verbal or a mixture or the two to provide an ad.