No Lag and Simple Packs: An Experiment
So many people think that just because a texture is the same color, it'll make you get more FPS. This thread shows how that's nowhere close to true.
The Packs
For this experiment, I'll be using 6 different packs:
1x literal, a terrain.png on a 16x canvas, effectively making each texture 1 pixel.
1x on 16x canvas, a pack where each texture is one solid color, on a default 256x terrain.png.
16x normal, the default textures.
16x simplified, the default textures reduced to a few colors per texture.
64x normal, the default textures on a larger Terrain.png, making each pixel 4x the size.
64x simplified, the simplified 16x on a larger terrain.png.
The Experiment
Many simple packs claim that the lack of detail will increase FPS. There are also multiple packs that say they're 1x and that your FPS will be better because of it. I'll be showing how the claims are wrong and you'll get the same FPS no matter how much or little detail is added.
To do that, I'll be loading a pre-made area, using normal render distance, fast graphics, and standing in the same spot for about 1 minute, and screenshoting the F3 information for each pack.
The Results
1x literal:
In this pack, I got an average of 31-35 FPS.
1x on 16x canvas:
This pack gave me a little less FPS, averaging from 25-30.
16x Default:
This pack also gave me around 25-30 FPS.
16x Simplified:
Again, the 25-30 FPS, as all the other 16x packs gave me.
32x Default:
With these, it had to load twice the pixels. I got between 18-24 FPS running it.
32x Simplified:
Along with the above, 18-24 FPS.
The Aftermath
The 1x literal had much less lag because it only had to load one pixel per texture, the 1x 16x pack having to still load all 256 pixels, the pixels just being the same color.
The 16x Default and Simplified both had around the same amount of FPS, because on both the same amount of pixels were loaded, though the second had all similar colors. It still had to load all 256 pixels, though some of the pixels were the same color.
The 64x packs show that even though some of the "pixels" are large, it still has to load the individual pixels inside these large ones, effectively slowing down the frames per second. The simplified adds on to the above.
The Conclusion
In conclusion, we see that it doesn't matter if the colors in your pack are the same, it's not going to help your frames per second. The only way to actually increase your FPS texture-pack-wise is to use packs that are actually lower resolutions, like 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x, even stuff like 14x, 6x, 9x, etc. work too with the correctly sized terrain.png. There are some nice lower resolution packs out there too, like Tinycraft, Rawrush, and more, I'm sure.
Well, that's my study. If you'd like, you may link to this thread on any of those simple packs that say your FPS will be better with them, or simple packs in general. I'm hoping people will see this before they put these packs up, and more actual packs can be seen, instead of the simple packs coming out every other hour.
Oh, the reason I get such low FPS is because I'm running Minecraft on a laptop. Don't ask why it says 1.7.4, either.
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Update 9/9/2011
550 Downloads! Pretty nice! The most downloaded is the 512X512 template, and the least one is the All-in-One pack. Thanks for all the support guys! I'll start updating it to 1.8 and creating the full template one day after 1.8 is launched (probably 09/13/2011).
Update 9/23/2011
Woah, 2467 downloads already! And I didn't even updated it to 1.8 or 1.9... I'm working as quick as possible guys, I can't use PC all day, so I can't be faster... sorreh... will be released eventually!
Many thanks for the feedback!
Update 9/24/2011
I decided to already update it to 1.9 without finishing everything. The post is much beautiful now and now the terrain.png and items.png are updated to 1.9! There's just some more stuff to release, like the mobs... they'll be done as quick as possible!
Update 10/16/2011
After some time without any update, I updated the terrain.png and items.png to 1.9pre 4! :biggrin.gif: Also, corrected some typos on the topic and added the option to download .png files instead of .psd files, attending to requests!
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