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If Disney bought the game.

Purpose:
Ever since Reeds became Sugar Cane I've been wondering if Mojang would ever add back reeds and make the two plants distinct in texture and function. However, I think many people would say that Reeds and Sugar Cane is already very similar in appearance and function that there wouldn't be a viable reason. My thought then was to add Bamboo to the game and make it unique by limiting it to specific biomes and giving it new crafting recipes. I believe Jeb or Notch mentioned that they wanted to create reasons for players to seek out specific biomes and adding bamboo would help that mechanism.

Counter Argument - Bamboo is too much like sugar cane

Bamboo Aesthetics and Virtues

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Bamboo Game Mechanics:

Plant - Properties

• Bamboo would be found in a specific biome (such as swamps, jungles, beaches, future biome, etc.) which gives those biomes an unique resource and therefore reason to visit
• Generated naturally in small Bamboo grove clusters of 4 - 8 stalks of Bamboo
• Solid block (unlike sugar cane). This presents an obstacale players must either destroy or walk around
• Grows on dirt/grass without requiring water (unlike sugar cane)
• Bamboo will require the same light levels to grow that most plants need
• Bamboo is flammable just like trees
• The appearance of bamboo will be 2 or 3 dark green stalks with yellow highlights at the segment joints and light green leaves along the stalks
• Axe is the best tool for harvesting. Cutting at the base will break all blocks above it. However, bamboo will still grow if the base block is left uncut.
• Harvesting yields "Bamboo" drops and a random chance of a "Bamboo Shoot" drops
• Bamboo is replanted with a bamboo shoot, not by placing bamboo drops into the ground. Growing Bamboo from a shoot takes longer than growing from an existing bamboo that was cut tot he base block, encoruaging certian harvesting techniques
• Bamboo can be placed directly into a clay pot similar to lucky bamboo
• Bamboo cannot be placed in raw form like sugar cane can

Crafting Base Material - Bamboo Poles

• Similar to taking processed wood and turning it into "Sticks", placing two bamboo drops vertically on a crafting grid yields a set quantity of "Bamboo Pole"
• The quantity yielded from crafting will be adjusted to fit game balance as well as physical sense (a.k.a. based on the size of the bamboo and the bamboo poles, does it make physical sense that I get this many bamboo poles from this much bamboo?)
• Bamboo poles look like a thick, yellow pole with light yellow/white segment joints.
• Bamboo poles can be placed similarly to a fence. It will stand vertically and have a similar collision box. The difference is bamboo poles won't branch out to connect to adjacent blocks or poles, filling a niche other blocks with small collision boxes do not achieve
• The small collision box combined with the inability to connect to adjacent blocks can be used to create windows that allow projectiles and small mobs through as well as many aesthetic designs.
• Bamboo poles are flammable and will catch fire and burn.

• When falling next to a bamboo pole (or more realistically a column of poles), you may hit shift to immediately slow your decent to the same speed you would normally climb down a ladder, which is to say non-lethal velocity (like a fireman pole). This would allow the creation of proper drop chutes without using water breaks or cobwebs

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Three Core Crafting Recipes:

Crafting Utility Block - Bamboo Scaffolding

• The creation of a scaffolding block has been mentioned in many other posts, specifically in conjunction with bamboo here. I have recived permission from the author to modify the base idea
• Scaffolding has two crafting methods; using 4 vines yields 2 scaffolding blocks while the other uses 2 string and yields 4 scaffolding blocks. This gives vines a crafting use in the game while making string the preferred construction method if you have access to string. Both crafting recipes yield identical scaffolding blocks.
• Scaffolding can be broken apart by hand as quickly as dirt with a diamond shovel. This makes it very easy to break down when you're done using it.
• It can be climbed from all vertical sides, similar to ladders
• Scaffolding would be very vulnerable to fire and explosions; they would rop nothing if destroyed in either manner, which makes it ill-suited for a permenant building block
• Using Bamboo as scaffolding is very realistic. See this image of Bamboo Scaffolding used on a real life skyscraper in Hong Kong from the Wikipedia article on Bamboo.

Crafting Trap Block - Punji Sticks

• Crafted by placing 3 Bamboo poles in a horizontal row.
• Can only be placed on dirt, gravel, and sand blocks
• Used to create Punji pits to trap and kill mobs
• Will not destroy drops or items on contact
• Slow movement rate and deals constant rate of damage to players and mobs
• Can only be placed on the top of the block
• More versatile than Cactus, but not as versatile as the potentially planned Spike Block

Crafting Pyrotechnic Item - Bamboo Fireworks and Bamboo Flares
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• Bamboo Fireworks would be crafted in the manner depicted above and yield 3 - 4 fireworks per crafting (adjustable for balance)
• Bamboo Flares would be crafted similar to Bamboo Fireworks but with glow stone powder instead of dye
• Bamboo Fireworks would be stack-able up to 16 based on color or type in the case of a Bamboo Flare
• To light a Bamboo Firework, right click the top of a solid block to place it on the ground (like a bottle rocket, placing it on the ground before launching it). You can light the firework using a flint and steel or redstone signal in a similar manner to how TNT can be handled and lit
• Punching a placed Bamboo Firework or Flare will create a drop (similar to how TNT now behaves)
• Bamboo Fireworks can be placed from dispensers if there is a flat surface directly in front and below the dispensing face (in a similar manner that boats and mine carts can now be dispensed)
• After ignition but before launch, there is a short delay, during which the Bamboo Firework fizzles (in the same manner a TNT block will blink after being lit). After which, the firework launches into the air about 100 meters before erupting into particle and sound effects depending on the color of the Bamboo Firework (This mechanic would be similar to throwing and Ender eye; how it rises in the air with small particle effects, only faster, vertical, and with sound effects)
• A Bamboo Firework would ideally explode when impacting on another surface or block (like a platform above the launch site), but since the Ender Eye will pass through solid blocks and fireworks are likely to use a similar code, I expect fireworks will not clip solid objects as well
• Bamboo Flares behave similarly to Bamboo Fireworks except when they launch, they ascend to only 50 meters or so before exploding into a temporary but bright light source that persists for a set duration of time (5 - 8 mins sounds reasonable)
• Bamboo Fireworks have a variety of aesthetic and practical uses, including presentations (accompanied with block music perhaps), signaling for help, coordinating PvP games, disorienting and distracting players in a fight, and general non-grief related pyrotechnics (as opposed to TNT and Fire Charges)
• The Bamboo Flare is much more utility oriented, providing momentary lighting in an dark open area
• Bamboo Fireworks and Flares can be "turned off" by disabling particles to prevent client lag

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Other Potential Crafting Recipes:
Note - Unlike the core recipes, these are more of "flavor ideas" to demonstrate the versatility of Bamboo. Some of them need further refinement or are too radical mechanically to add right away. All of these recipes take a back seat to the core materials, so don’t fret if there are a few you don’t care for.

Crafting Floor Block - Tatami Mats
Crafting Pyrotechnic Item - Bamboo Smoke Bomb

• Similar crafting recipe to Bamboo Fireworks and Bamboo Flare, but very different behavior
• Single crafting yields 3 - 4 smoke bombs per recipe
• Thrown like a snowball or splash potion and explodes on impact with explosion sound effect (either the same or similar to TNT explosion)
• Blocks within a 8 meter radius of the impact will emit smoke particles about 3 meters high for a duration of about 10 secs or so
• Like other pyrotechnics, this effect can be disabled by turning off particles to prevent malicious client lag for players with low end game performance
• Mechanical uses include disorientation, obscurement, and distraction in PvP and PvM fights (Mob AI would have to be written to respond to smoke screen)
• This can be a way for players to cause mischief without causing actual damage to players
• Fired from a dispenser in the same manner splash potions or snowballs are fired

Crafting Utility Block - Deer Scare
Crafting Food - Fish Shoot Stew

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Takes 1 wood bowl, 1 bamboo shoot, and 1 cooked fish to create 1 Fish Shoot Stew

• Consumption grants 8 food points (equal to mushroom stew) but 12.8 saturation points (greater than mushroom stew, but equal to cooked beef/pork)
• Keep in mind that bamboo shoots cannot be eaten raw, similar to mushrooms
• If bamboo was used to make a unique fishing rod (still in development), this would make more sense because you use the bamboo rod to catch the fish and use then cook the fish and use that with bamboo shoots to make the Fish Shoot Stew

Optional Mechanics -

• If rice were added to the game, it should become a required ingredient to make this recipe and would also increase the consumption benefits
• Stew dishes such as Mushroom stew and Fish Shoot Stew could be prepared in cauldrons by filling them with water and right click placing the ingredients into them. It would create 3 bowl servings of the stew and give the cauldrons a legitimate use. It would also create another static food source like the cake where people can fill their bowl when they are hungry.

Crafting Instrument - Pan Flute

• NOT played like Ocarina of Time or Spirit Tracks (in that you would use indvidual notes to make a song
• Right clicking would start playing a generic song, clicking again would stop playing
• Playing the song would be accompanied with little note effects similar to the note blocks
• Taking damage, trying to jump, or sprinting will end the song

Optional Mechanics -

• The utility applications for this item are really wide open. Here are a few I thought of
• Pacifying neutral mobs that have become hostile
• Calming animals who are running away or scared
• Assist in taming skidish ocelots
• Used to tame or interact with a possible Panda mob (as suggested by Dinnerbone here
• Used to open a portal to a new dimension
• Annoy other players by prancing around like a bard while they work

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Reoccurring Suggestions:

Bamboo = Sticks | Using bamboo poles as a substitute for sticks in some or all crafting recipes

Bamboo Tools/Weapons General | Creating Tools or Weapons using bamboo

Bamboo Spear | Using bamboo poles to create a spear

Panda Mob | Pandas would spawn and feed near bamboo groves

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Change Log:

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Feedback and Follow:
That's all I have for my main points for Bamboo along with feasible crafting recipes/materials. I really need feedback and discussion in order to get this idea noticed by Mojang Developers so please reply with intelligent affirmation, comments, ideas, or issues below. Also please click the follow button above to receive updates as I'll be continuing to revise the OP and add new crafting recipes.
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Quote from FriendlyCasper

In-game Name: My in-game name is Tplats. However, the heinousity of the Killion Detention Center leads me to suggest a more tragic character, (my alt) FriendlyCasper. As the font suggests, FriendlyCasper is the font of death as well as the hammer of justice.
(references to his Sans nature: http://www.explosm.net/comics/2301/)

How old are you? I am 16. Although, I am wise for my years.

What is your timezone(GMT)? Pacific Standard Time

What time can you guard? (Ex: 1PM-4PM)? I will be able to guard most days from 10:30 AM to 5:00 PM with some give or take. The reformation and reintegration of these prisoners is my top priority. I will also be on late from 8:00 PM to 12/2 AM or so. I look forward to perhaps writing some Killion Gothic, or perhaps a nice short buldingsroman of a C-block prisoner.

How long have you played on Killion?: I played on the server some months back for quite a while, I've also started to play again. (The end of school has freed up some time, but I only recently was re-introduced by a website). I' have been playing for about a week since I started up again.

What is your current rank (Block)? My current rank is C. Although this question implies judgement, which I know you give fairly, I would suggest that my rank © should have little to do with the application. Not only do I have the aquired experience of a block A inmate. The time I spent reading all guides and rules on the forums (some twice) should place me in league with many of the other applicants for this position.

Do you have experience with prison servers?: I have experience with a man who worked at a prison (he served the prison), but the only experience I have from prison mine-craft servers is from Killion, which is a great amount of experience indeed.

Do you have experience guarding?: As a young child, guarding was present in my nature, and was asked of me. I grew up with a twin brother. He and I went to school and did all sorts of things together. We also got into fights (PvP). However, we bonded through our torture of our older brother. We had this running game where we would steal his backpack, and he would have to catch us. It was my turn that day, I snuck into his room whilst he was asleep and ran off with his backpack. My brother and I hopped two train rides and hitch-hiked our way until we got to my backyard. At this time, we snuck up into our treefort with the bag. For some reason, (we still to this day cannot tell how he guessed we would go to the treefort) he was able to find us. As he was climbing up the ladder, my brother gave up and ran back inside. I persevered. "I will guard this backpack with my life!" I shouted as I went down the zipline like a monkey with vines whilst the backpack was on my back. It was heavy, but I got to the bottom without harm. He was on me already, but if I couldn't save his backpack from himself, I would save a part of it. I ripped off a zipper and ran away.

Ten years have passed: I still have the zipper.

Have you read ALL of the server rules, both guard and prisoner?: Yes, my plan was to copy and paste the rules into this and then write CHECK every three words. A study shows that we take in three words at a time. If I were to write CHECK every three words, my eyes would have had to have seen all the rules. However, this was pointless, because I am not a liar.

What makes you the best guard applicant?: Besides from the values I embody of Courage, Justice, and Perseverance, I hold a fetish-like love of keeping the world safe and reforming struggling and dilapidated individuals. Not only will I abide by the rules exactly, but I will also generate a bond between myself and every prisoner that they shall remember for a life-time. Many guards will take their job description as a punisher and an abuser. I seek to not only punish those that fall off the path, but also help others in their struggle through rehabilitation. I will prove to be a valuable asset in discussing new rules or ideas as I am very able to criticize, but I am also able to throw it in the back of my mind forever.
Note: If you are in anyway put off by how I didn't change the color of the punctuation marks of the questions, please forgive me.

I am your Guard.
I am FriendlyCasper.
Thank you.

Do you have experience guarding? Pretty sure that meant in minecraft...

"Yes, my plan was to copy and paste the rules into this and then write CHECK every three words. A study shows that we take in three words at a time. If I were to write CHECK every three words, my eyes would have had to have seen all the rules. However, this was pointless, because I am not a liar." Ummmm... A little over the top with that answer... pretty sure they just wanted a Yes or No....

"I hold a fetish-like love of keeping the world safe and reforming struggling and dilapidated individuals. " So you get a sexual thrill out of this kind of thing? okay...

"I will prove to be a valuable asset in discussing new rules or ideas as I am very able to criticize, but I am also able to throw it in the back of my mind forever. " Maybe you should apply for Mod instead?

My speculations on this server are gradually growing stronger and stronger. I joined; a clueless noob, in awe from the shimmering glory of these seemingly pearly gates to heaven that were Killion. Guards were scary mother****ers, you needed a team of players to even fathom stepping to the pinnacle of the prison staff. I quickly realized who most of the active and skilled members were; to jot some names, Laxrules, Notorious, EvilCloset, N3tiz3n, tom6903 (believe it or not), DadSonCousin (even though the ******* used Nodas the whole time he played here), and some others. During this time, WuTang was still hardly present in the community. I never really saw them as a central power. Anyways, moving on more directly to the point: Every time I got on, it was an inevitable struggle to get a new set of armor... A new sword to possibly grasp the hopes of killing some guards, at this time they were actually worth killing. Things were full of excitement, a new feature around every corner, a welcoming hand to comfort you when you didn't understand something, and a black-list of well-demonstrated players who you could dream to one day over come.

Free was just plain out terrifying for me and my clan. It felt nice being independant, and knowing you were doing your best to compete with some of the well-off clans already lurking around the midsts of Free. I couldn't exactly go AFK anywhere, or I would surely be killed and have my entire base ruined to a million tiny pieces, and then re-discovered by another clan or two in the time that the other clan was devouring it. Usually resulting in a multi-clan battle. ****ing amazing. At this point in time, iLL and dogs were known as TFD. There didn't seem to be a single down-trotten cloud in sight.

However, lifes devilish plots do not allow a story to lack conflict. All clear waters grow murky when they lay surrounded by infectious changes. My newfound infatuation with Killion had seemed too good to be true, but then something hit this server like a hi-jacked plane being flown into a church (in the sense that something good was being ruined).

I remember hearing about this... this community spotlight... I didn't think much of it. Little did I know that this would soon aline a series of dream-shattering domino's, leaving them to be struck and knocked down by any harsh move in the wrong direction. Before you knew it, guards weren't scary any more. There was Nent, Goon, and Death... Then a herd of sheep that never had a sheapherd. Starzy began hiring these... discipline deprived under-appreciative players who were barely exceptional at minecraft, let alone pvp. This wasn't the straw that broke the camels back, but it certainly added to the weight of the boulder above some players heads. It's just a joke to see these chainmail drones that mimic that of a level 80 bot on Sauerbraten (Heh, inside joke), running around swinging there swords at armorless people so they feel powerful. But when these new guards were confronted by the blade of a real warrior, they would build a sense of entitlement as if they actually can make rules as they go along, or just flat out break them. I've been jailed 29 times for killing guards. Starzy has failed to fix this problem... I don't blame her though, this problem is almost too big to be fixed now. It's almost as if Starzy left the sink fosset on; metaphorically, for 8 months, and now if she actually tries to return to it there will simply be too much of a mess to fix in a weeks work.

Guards were one small problem, but then all of these alleged "good features," started dropping like bad habbits. Mobs spawned like there was no tomorrow back then. We could get to level 50 in a couple hours, no problem. At this current day and age, you're lucky to get to level 50 once in a whole day, even if you're Gigidyy and payed $100 of your REAL-LIFE money to ensure the succession of this problem. I think I know part of the problem here, but I'll get back to that. After all, I've only begun to list problems, not solutions.

Shortly after the two problems mentioned above became present, the string holding that boulder just about collapsed. We lost a vast majority of our veterans. To emphasize the point better, I don't even consider myself a veteran, yet people look at me like I am one. This just shows that the people who used to be recognized by me as veterans are almost all gone. No one is left to make that name for us anymore. If I were to have joined the server now, I wouldn't exactly call Killion "Heavens Pearly Gates," like when I did join. In turn, Freeville is a PvP deprived dust bowl. We've got iLL, dogs, vtx, and everyone else gets thrown into this sub-group of "not-so-recognizable," clans. Hey, it might just be me, but things are pretty damn miserable when the leader of iLL calls that joke of a clan vtx one of the central powers that's still remaining...

There are more small problems, but they aren't adding to our path of destruction as heavily as the aforementioned. Now I'd like to state how I think we can set this on the right track, because sometimes I wish I'd jumped out of the car before it hit the cliffs.

Guard problem: Let's be idealistic here, because being realistic and blunt is just a buzz kill. There are some fun guards out there! I can't name all of them, but Xanadude, Bluetoes, DamienStone, burnteggoz, and jacketyoyo are really fun and memorable to fight with. However, "fun" is evidently not good enough to prevent me from getting a 115 KDR on my alt. There needs to be some slight new changes, if I might suggest. Guard training. Just like the police academy training you have to go through, guards should have to train for no less then a week before being thrown into the battlefield. Some of the guards, like the C-Guard maxie-something, just need a nudge in the right direction. I can kill this guy over and over without getting hit once. Now, I know p2 chainmail vs. p4 diamond isn't easy to fight, but the bare minimal of what a guard should do is eat away that precious armor of mine. I am suggesting that you let me, or someone else of your choice train the guards personally. Be it 1v1's, or centralized training in specific aspects of PvP, I would gladly train new guards for you Starzy, should you want me to.

Mob Problem: This one is a toughy. It's hard to utilize something that when reduced; can cause even more problems, but when added to makes people rage and complain. But something I've noticed a LOT is these hoards of passive mobs, and what I've grown accustomed to doing is manually lowering the mob count. Now before you go "Ban this h4x0r h3 am mezz wit surver setdings!", understand that this is just a small hunch of mine. I go around with a decent sword, killing mobs of 30-100 farm animals that spawn in these numbers every time a chunk is loaded, expired, and then re-loaded while the cap isn't already reached. It seems as though the cap is being reached by these passive mob hoards some times, or at the very least being added towards. Again, this is only a hunch, but if I am correct, completely nerfing the spawning of these hoards would lighten the server intensity by a lot.

We can't really do anything to keep ungreatful people here, if they fail to see Starzy and Mark's tireless efforts to improve the server and the fact that they keep the server going to begin with is beyond all of us. Goon has made a few good points, but stop giving him your salutations.

What I see is a teenager who isn't happy with mommy and daddies decisions, and his other teenage friends saying "Yeah man, **** parents!" When the reality of it is without these parents who nurtured you and raised you with love and affection, you'd still be shitting where you eat, and pissing where you sleep.

Of course, Goon is being referred to as the teenager, and Mark and Starzy are the parents.

We all just need to embrace the new changes with a good attitude, and hope for the best. Speak your mind, don't keep things inside. Mark and Starzy haven't once lead anyone to believe that they would be banned for voicing there opinions politely, I'm sure they commemorate those who do. If they don't get around to answering you or responding to your ideas, hey, they're busy people. Acting like the staff needs to work around your actions just gives me reason to believe you're an impatient, self-entitled douchebag.

I know this is a lot to read, but I'd like to think I've narrowed it down to the few main concerns and how they could possibly be acted upon; and additionally, responded to those who think the staff isn't pro-active enough for them. So everyone, let's just get along and rejoyce the fact that this server is still here for us to retreat to when real life is too miserable or tiresome to enjoy.

TL;DR:

Things may not seem perfect right now, but when you hit a few road bumps in life do you commit suicide? No, you try to make things better, and keep your head up. So let's all do just that...

Still loving the map, however I have a little bit of feedback to offer, and some more bugs to report.

I believe you should give less fire charges, and more arrows. Fire charges are considerably more powerful, because in many instances they can set the ground on fire, and damage multiple zombies for multiple damage points with a single charge. If you gave less fire charges to the player, that would also instill a higher degree of strategy in ammo placement.

This may be an intended design, but I personally believe that minigame #2, the parkour one is too difficult. The timer aspect is fine, I have no problem with that, but the first gap is four blocks, which is fairly difficult to jump. My suggestion would be to reduce it by one. It would still be a difficult challenge, because even when I do make that jump, I've yet to make it to the end.

I think you should leave a chest, or an incinerator, or some means of disposing of all of the minecarts you pick up. They take up a lot of space, and give you less room to divide up your ammo. Of course I can simply place one of the chests you get and stash them in there, but I prefer a proper way to do it. it adds a little to the whole immersion.

I believe that you should provide less ammo overall, but keep the current system of rewarding bonus ammo for trading more sand at once. Right now, I think you're giving too much. Anybody who is fairly good at the minigames will breeze through the map. I complete one and three almost every time. At the end of stage six, I have four stacks each of charges and arrows, and that's having missed out on two sand that I didn't get from waves four or five (See bugs), and with what I currently have in the dispensers, I could probably last another wave or two.

Now for the bugs. I did not receive the free sand chest at the end of waves four or five, but at the end of wave six I got one.

The third minigame can be broken by flipping the track in a way that it sends the cart back up the right side. I've accidentally done this twice now, and once it goes back, the game stops working entirely.

The infinity bows provided in the first minigame act a little strangely. They do not break after six shots, but instead loop around and become "full" again. The do vanish if you open up the chest while they're selected in the hotbar when you return the single arrow, even if they have looped around.

The two times I assembled my iron golem, it took some damage from the wall it was next to before I pushed it away. It wouldn't look as nice, but maybe move the "armor" one block away from the wall.

Those are my two cents.

Heres the seed


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