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Feb 22, 2014
marfig posted a message on Another Disapponting Snapshot

Quote from Codiferus17

What is it about life that makes you think ANYONE owes you ANYTHING? Whether you have reasonable cause to expect it or not.

If your point is that I feel just as entitled as anyone else, you'd be correct, I am also human...you win. Doesn't justify it, make it right or realistic.

You don't play the I'm Enlightened card very well. Just so you know, your whole corporate speech sprinkled with egotistical bits just isn't convincing. At all. Your verbal diarrhea sits right there with that of corporate lawyers. Reading your words is like watching Bakan's The Corporation once per post. Meanwhile your convenient use of the feeling of owing to describe someone who expects or demands quality from a purchased product is just another amusing ad hominen so common of black propaganda. But I don't blame you. You are just another monkey-see-monkey-do who have listened so long to this idea of entitlement that you started believing in it and spreading it yourself. Your avatar... fits you like a glove.

As a consumer of movies, I'm sure you have never criticized or walked away angry or frustrated from a movie theater after having watched what you called a piece of crap. After all, you are not entitled to such feelings since the movie maker owes you nothing; despite your ticket dollars going straight to the poll that he will draw from. And so should we follow your walk of life, otherwise you will think of us all entitled for criticizing, expecting, requesting or demanding features or bug fixes from Mojang.

Mojang owes me and you everything. In case you have forgotten they run a business and we are the customers. If you prefer to point your guns at the already disreputable state of consumer rights in the 21st century, you can keep your corporate tool speech. Me, I prefer to defend my own interests as a consumer before I consider anything else.
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Feb 19, 2014
marfig posted a message on Is the MOD API actually being developed?

Quote from Frontrider

Find something first. I still just can come with the example above. The coordinates wasn't integers with 16 being the whole block (now it is), and we have been told.
As i said, find something. Search.

Right. Your fudge tactics just won't work. You are -- it seems you have forgotten -- talking with actual intelligent people. Not the gullible you apparently deal with in a daily basis, if you expect that weak attempt of yours to work.

There's nothing to search for, because there is nothing that has been told about those particular changes in relation to the Plugin API that will calm the doubts expressed in this thread. You are just essentially forging evidence by giving the false idea that we are not in possession of all the information. Let me tell you son, there's very little (and possibly nothing at all) you can tell us that we don't know already about Mojang work on Minecraft.

So now, please, leave us adults to the conversation and you go try fool someone else in another neighborhood. Because at least in here, even those that may disagree do it with with respect and don't try to forge evidence to support their arguments.
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Feb 18, 2014
marfig posted a message on This, in my humble opinion, is so far the most boring survival update.

I understand we are discussing actual promised things. Populi still doesn't see they were actually promised.

But I think it's important for you to understand, Populi, that even if they weren't promised, you can just expect people to behave positively towards something that doesn't conform to their desires. That is exactly what doesn't make sense.

You don't like analogies. Fine. I'll give you a concrete example:

My biggest beef with Notch, during his days, were fence gates. He was not promising them, but I always requested fence gates. We had fences, but no gates. Which made fences pretty much useless, except as decoration. Update after update, fence gates were not being added. So I was annoyed at this situation. IIRC, a couple of times, I posted on these very forums -- this was way before they merged with Curse -- showing my annoyance and my displeasure at the fact he wouldn't add fence gates. Are you really trying to tell me I was being a child?
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Feb 18, 2014
marfig posted a message on Another Disapponting Snapshot

Quote from redstonevet90
People just need to stop pretending that we have some sort of moral obligation to Mojang to kiss their **** because they do small updates.

Quote from Divinius
100% agree. The "Mojang can do no wrong" posters make me want to invent a way to strangle people through the internet. But on the flip side... there are reasonable complaints, and then there are the types of posts Lefty makes.

We don't discuss it often. But there's also reasonable praise and then the type of posts Lefty makes

Which does throw us to this interesting idea that rarely are unreasonable praise posts dissected by the community with the same level of complaint posts. I always find it sad, pathetic, and a worrying display of the type of consumerist society reminiscent of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, that so many are so quick to jump on a negative comment towards an item/company they like, but refuse to employ the same critical energy against the most egregious praise. Or, running parallel to this thought that so many so unnecessarily and violently attack what they consider an unnecessary violent attack on an item/company they like.

Moral consistency is overrated. And it is good to be an entertainment company these days...
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Feb 18, 2014
marfig posted a message on This, in my humble opinion, is so far the most boring survival update.

Quote from DElyMyth

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Are we being intellectually honest?

Did you really buy the video game Minecraft and didn't expect updates?
Do you really believe that it is perfectly fine for new features to ignore the players requests?
Do you really think it makes no sense to have hopes and estimations about future updates?
Do you really suggest that one should not feel annoyed because those hopes and estimations weren't fulfilled, even when they weren't promised?

I find your post politically correct. What it ignores is the human side. And for at least the first 3 I don't even think you care one bit about the perfectly normal concept that a consumer interest may want to be above the business interest, much like the business interest wants to be above the consumer interest. In this tug-of-war you just seem to be on the side that isn't the one your represent.
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Feb 18, 2014
marfig posted a message on I don't really like the new 'regen at the cost of food' feature.

Quote from KingzofDawn

The new feature makes you have to eat better food in order to heal. Before, you could have a stack of melons to last you forever. Now different kind of food with higher saturation counts as better.

Yes. The OP understands that. But he argues that this will further remove value from worse food types. I sort of see the problem, but I don't see a solution. This change doesn't introduce a new problem. It just confirms the already existing problem that better food makes other types of food obsolete. But I don't see how one could make them more interesting food sources.
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Feb 16, 2014
marfig posted a message on Is the MOD API actually being developed?

Quote from TheMasterCaver

Or you can just forget about Forge; it only took me half an hour to convert a mod I made from 1.6.4 to 1.7.2, mainly just replacing references to blocks (e.g. Block.stone.blockID became Blocks.stone);

This is not practical for many reasons. Many mods are heavily dependent on Forge or make large modifications to the game that would take considerable effort to inject directly in the game binaries or otherwise risk serious conflicts with other mods. Players would also have a much harder time installing their mods if they had to manually incorporate each mod into the minecraft binary.

I'm not even sure why I am saying all of this. I thought it would be pretty obvious. Just because your mod is easy to port that doesn't mean this is suddenly how we should mod the game. Heck, it's because of the problems we had with direct modification of the code that Forge was born. And you suggest we go back to the mod equivalent of DLL hell? Hell, no!
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Feb 15, 2014
marfig posted a message on Is the MOD API actually being developed?

The
Quote from Kahr
It's been a "work in progress" for four years now. Entire AAA games with their own mod toolkits have been developed in less time. How long are modders expected to wait before just giving up and moving on? No doubt many already have.

I trust we haven't seen yet the full extent of the damage to the mod community brought in by 1.7.2. I know of at least two modders who have since moved on to other things and reveal little interest in updating their mods once Forge catches up to whatever current version (which is more likely to happen then any API from Mojang). It's just that modders, being people like everyone else, may them too lose their drive. If that already happens on a healthy mod support environment, we can only imagine what an extended period of no mod support can do.

But it is also players that may become affected. Speaking for myself, I'm feeling close to the end of my interest in the game. Vanilla Minecraft just doesn't hold any interest to me. Since pretty much mid 2012, it's the modded game that has been giving me all the fun I ask of a game. I've been stuck on 1.6.4 for 3 months now, while reading and hearing all about the new additions to the game. I'm incapable of playing Thaumcraft, RailCraft, Twilight Forest, Ars Magica, on these new versions. And that slowly but steadily has been eroding my interest in the game.

Meanwhile I have been developing two projects that are currently on hold and suffering from the fact I have lost much interest in the game. I have a total 3D model conversion of the John Smith Legacy texture pack for 3D artists or animators to use on SketchUp or Blender that I was planning to distribute on these forums. There's already 230 models done (5 weeks of real-time work involved) and I'm missing half of that to be finished. But I lack the drive to do it. I also have an half finished tutorial on efficient and organized strip mining, complete with home-made images and graphs that I don't see me interested in finishing anymore. I'm just losing interest in the game, because for 3 months now the game has crystallized.

So, as a player and not a modder, I too have been spending most of my time elsewhere and slowly losing all interest in the game. Not for the lack of a Plugin API, but for the lack of mod support. So from my own experience I would guess that modders, but also players who have can't enjoy anymore the vanilla game, are at risk. This week I have yet to fire the game even once. And tomorrow is Sunday.
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Feb 13, 2014
marfig posted a message on I cannot believe how endermen behave in the new snapshot

And to think Scrolls will probably not amount to 1% of Minecraft sales. Tells you a whole lot about the conflict of interests between players and the video game industry:

From a Player perspective: to waste the talents of an AI programmer (who is so much needed in Minecraft) on Scrolls, is like giving Newton a job as a tire salesman.

From the Developer perspective: To waste the talents of an AI programmer on a 4 year old, 33 million sales, game, is like asking your best armored division to stay in Berlin despite the war being won.
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Feb 12, 2014
marfig posted a message on Is the MOD API actually being developed?

Yes. I think you overdid it. But that's the least important.

Maybe I haven't been clear enough, model data files exist and are being used by the game. Prior to this point all model data was defined programatically within the class files. This is a real observable change in the code. This is the sort of change one would make if one was in fact working to implement an API. This isn't something they have said this is something they have done.

What I would really like to understand is your argument. Please explain how you link this to actual work in the Plugin API. And before you reply (because you too seem guilty of not reading), explain your reasoning in the context of many other similar changes in the game for the past years that still didn't result to this date on a workable Plugin API. Also, in your reply take in mind that you are taking also to a 44 year old software engineer (we seem to share a similar background, so throw all the technical jargon you carry. I can take it). So, help me understand your argument, because for the life of me, I can't even start to comprehend how any of the recent changes to the game can constitute any sort of proof in light of Mojang past history on this matter. Many other so-called proofs have come and gone in the past 4 years. What makes this one so special?
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