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    posted a message on ChickenBones Mods
    I've been having trouble installing NEI and I can't seem to find much information on why it's not working.

    I've installed Forge fine, and can get just Minecraft + Forge to run fine, but there seems to be a problem when I try to put CodeChickenCore in the coremods folder. This is what happens when I try to run Minecraft after doing that:

    2013-07-01 15:09:04 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] Forge Mod Loader version 5.2.23.657
    for Minecraft 1.5.2 loading
    2013-07-01 15:09:04 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] Java is Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Serv
    er VM, version 1.7.0_09, running on Windows 8:amd64:6.2, installed at C:\Program
     Files\Java\jre7
    2013-07-01 15:09:04 [WARNING] [ForgeModLoader] The coremod codechicken.core.asm.
    CodeChickenCorePlugin does not have a MCVersion annotation, it may cause issues
    with this version of Minecraft
    2013-07-01 15:09:05 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] Found valid fingerprint for FML. Cer
    tificate fingerprint aef6547996e91bd159706cb46bf54a89c5ce081d
    2013-07-01 15:09:05 [INFO] [STDOUT] Adding Accesstransformer map: codechickencor
    e_at.cfg
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDOUT] FMLRelauncher.relaunchApplet
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke0(Native Method)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorI
    mpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:247)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .appletEntry(FMLRelauncher.java:229)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    init(MinecraftApplet.java:20)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher.replace(Launch
    er.java:136)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke0(Native Method)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorI
    mpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:277)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .appletEntry(FMLRelauncher.java:229)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    init(MinecraftApplet.java:20)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher.replace(Launch
    er.java:136)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher$1.run(Launcher
    .java:79)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: n
    et/minecraft/block/Block
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.stats.StatList.func_759
    21_a(SourceFile:125)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.stats.StatList.<clinit>
    (SourceFile:58)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.<init>
    (Minecraft.java:199)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftAppletI
    mpl.<init>(SourceFile:38)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    fmlInitReentry(MinecraftApplet.java:27)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 17 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
     net.minecraft.block.Block
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.findClass(RelaunchClassLoader.java:238)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 22 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Metho
    d not found: [apa.canBeReplacedByLeaves(Laab;III)Z]
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at codechicken.core.asm.ASMHelper.alterM
    ethods(ASMHelper.java:277)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at codechicken.core.asm.TweakTransformer
    .transform(TweakTransformer.java:166)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.runTransformers(RelaunchClassLoader.java:352)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.findClass(RelaunchClassLoader.java:225)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 24 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Exception in thread "Thread-5" java.lang.Run
    timeException: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:287)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .appletEntry(FMLRelauncher.java:229)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    init(MinecraftApplet.java:20)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher.replace(Launch
    er.java:136)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher$1.run(Launcher
    .java:79)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTarge
    tException
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke0(Native Method)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorI
    mpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:277)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 4 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.
    lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:254)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .appletEntry(FMLRelauncher.java:229)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    init(MinecraftApplet.java:20)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.Launcher.replace(Launch
    er.java:136)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 9 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTarge
    tException
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke0(Native Method)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
    invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorI
    mpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.FMLRelauncher
    .relaunchApplet(FMLRelauncher.java:247)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 12 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: n
    et/minecraft/block/Block
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.stats.StatList.func_759
    21_a(SourceFile:125)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.stats.StatList.<clinit>
    (SourceFile:58)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.<init>
    (Minecraft.java:199)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftAppletI
    mpl.<init>(SourceFile:38)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.
    fmlInitReentry(MinecraftApplet.java:27)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 17 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
     net.minecraft.block.Block
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.findClass(RelaunchClassLoader.java:238)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unkno
    wn Source)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 22 more
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Metho
    d not found: [apa.canBeReplacedByLeaves(Laab;III)Z]
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at codechicken.core.asm.ASMHelper.alterM
    ethods(ASMHelper.java:277)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at codechicken.core.asm.TweakTransformer
    .transform(TweakTransformer.java:166)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.runTransformers(RelaunchClassLoader.java:352)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.RelaunchClass
    Loader.findClass(RelaunchClassLoader.java:225)
    2013-07-01 15:09:08 [INFO] [STDERR]     ... 24 more


    I've not used Forge before so I'm not sure if it's something I'm doing wrong or not. I'm using Minecraft 1.5.2 (and forced an update to make sure of it) and all the mods including forge are definitely the right version. I'm using the default Minecraft launcher on Windows 8 64-bit.

    Does anyone know what's going on? Or save that, is there a way to install NEI without a mod loader? (I'm used to just copying mods straight into minecraft.jar)
    Posted in: Minecraft Mods
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    posted a message on Would a for-profit server work, or be viable at all?
    I'm looking for opinions here.

    Recently I've been thinking of starting a minecraft server. I've seen how many servers have "donator" ranks with additional features, which seems like a good idea. I'd implement something like that so I could at least pay for VPS, web hosting etc. and hopefully get a bit of extra money on the side. but that got me thinking. Would a paid, for-profit minecraft sever be viable? Would people use it. As I can see it there would be three ways of doing it.

    1. Members pay a monthly fee to use the server (for higher ranks, you could charge a greater fee)
    2. Members pay a single one-off fee when they start playing
    3. The server is free to use, except in-game money (via iConomy or something similar) can be purchased using real-life money.

    With option one, you'd probably get the most money per user, but people would be more reluctant to join.
    With option two, users would be better off, but you'd need a lot of new users regularly to generate any substantial amount of money.
    I'm not sure how well the last option would work. The idea is that you could still use the server as normal without paying, but perhaps nobody would buy in-game money, or perhaps it would upset the in-game economy.

    The main problems with a paid server in general (I suspect) would be these:
    • It would be hard to start. I imagine you'd have to open the server as free and build up a community before you start charging. But people won't be too happy about having to pay for something they used to use for free.
    • You would have to offer a unique experience; something that the users couldn't get from a free server
    • There may be legal issues with Mojang for making money from their game? (Honestly not sure how that works)
    • The server would have to be very reliable. If people are paying real money for the experience they're going to be a lot less tolerant of downtime.
    What does everyone else think? Is there any viability in a for-profit minecraft server? Have any existed (or have any of you tried one before?) How would I get around the issues listed above? (or any more).
    Furthermore, I'd love to hear from anyone who owns a server with paid features such as ranks, and how well that works for you.
    Posted in: Server Support and Administration
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    posted a message on The epic Epic of how Pizza became a Vegetable.
    Quote from Schmoople

    Nouns aren't capitalized except at the beginning of a sentence. You're thinking of pronouns.
    Read my signature.

    I wouldn't normally care but as you claim to be a Grammar Nazi, I fixed your post.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on My mom doesn't give me money
    /firstworldproblems

    Well, if your mum pays for you to have food, clothes, a house and an education on top of a little extra a week, you can't complain. You're better off than most people in the world. You have everything you need, and anything else is a luxury. At least your mum can afford to give you everything she does. Your parents aren't supposed to be an infinite source of money for anything you want. She might not have enough money anyway.

    If you want more money, wait until you're old enough to get a job and then get it the way everyone else does.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Additive inverse of fractions?
    Quote from Andromeda

    Hi. Well anyway, on my homework I cannot figure out how to get the additive inverse of fractions.

    The problem is "m/2 + 3 = m/5 + 5"

    Once I do the additive inverse of m/5, it will be "?? + 3 = 5?

    The question mark is what the answer is.

    I tried m/10 but apparently that's incorrect.

    Anyone? I just need to know how to do it.

    m/2 = 5m/10 and m/5 = 2m/10
    so
    m/2 + 3 = m/5 + 5
    5m/10 + 3 = 2m/10 + 5
    5m/10 - 2m/10 + 3 = 5
    3m/10 + 3 = 5
    3m/10 = 2
    3m = 20
    m = 20/3
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Determinism vs Indeterminism
    Determinism. Every action is just a consequence of a previous action. Everything in our body including nervous signals in the brain is a part of a chemical or electrical sequence which began with the big bang. Our mind cannot comprehend a random thought, and we can't control what we think. It can respond to external stimuli or process things it already knows, but that's all.

    Also, if you consider time as a dimension, and then realise that it's possible to alter an object's path through time separate to its surroundings, you could say that everything is predetermined. When you think about it, think about where you'll be in 10 years. You probably can't say for certain, but there will only be one outcome. You can say that that outcome is influenced by your choices and actions between now and then, but really, those choices and decisions aren't your free will, they are already predetermined.


    Mind you, when you think about it in this much depth it makes you wonder about time travel, and alternate timelines, and all that, so it gets confusing.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on 2012
    I believe in 2012.

    I am a believer of the number line theory: That is that each year is the integer value of the previous year plus one. Or:
    Y2 = Y1 + 1

    So far there is nothing to prove this theory wrong. In fact, it has been used to predict worldwide events such as the year 2000, the year 2006 and more recently the year 2011.

    Not only do I think that this proves 2012 is real, but I can take this further.

    This year is 2011. 2011+1 = 2012
    2012+1 = 2013
    2013+1 = 2014

    Let me present this in a more useful way. I will now accurately predict the numerical sequence of the next decade starting this year:
    2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 (Note the presence of 2012, which we can expect to find between 2011 and 2013)

    This is what the government is hiding from you. They don't want you to know this. In fact, the government could well take down this post, and attempt to wipe my memory, and those of everyone who has read it. I advise that after viewing it you close the tab, delete your browsing history, uninstall your browser, wipe your hard drive and put your computer through a trash compactor, burying the remains in a 10-foot deep hole, preferable somewhere on a remote Pacific island.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on What do you call soft drinks?
    Um, I call soft drinks soft drinks..

    Why isn't there an option for that?

    Also cola is a specific type of drink, and coke is a specific brand.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Who else plays in the band?
    I play percussion, mainly mallets/tuned percussion in a symphonic band, but piano is my main instrument. I have played that with the same band before though.

    You need to make the poll multiple choice. Also be more specific in the heading. "The band" could mean anything. I play in a stage band too but that doesn't seem to come under this thread.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on What do you pay for your cell phone?
    That's really expensive..

    I pay nearly nothing. It's prepaid and I just recharge it when I need credit, which might be only $20 every couple of months if that.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Internet and why it is good
    Quote from MiniM00se

    you think the internet is good because it taught you grammar?

    clearly you haven't been using the internet to its full extent

    Clearly you haven't read the OP.

    He said using the internet has increased his typing speed and taught him most of what he knows about the English language. (It must have worked too, because he can write better than most of the people on these forums). It also taught him enough that he gets 100% in all his classes. That's a pretty big thing.

    I don't know what you mean by using the internet to its full extent. People use it for different reasons. That's like saying by only looking up one word in a dictionary you aren't using it to its full extent.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Vertical piston doors
    So for the rather massive castle I've been working on for a long time, I have several large doorways which I want to be able to close up. The only way I've thought of doing it so far would be with hidden pistons underneath, which slide a stack of blocks up to fill the doorway. This is working fine with sticky pistons:

    :cobblestone: :cobblestone:
    :cobblestone: :cobblestone:
    :cobblestone: :cobblestone:
    :cobblestone: :cobblestone:
    :cobblestone: :cobblestone:
    :Turquoise: :Turquoise:
    :Turquoise: :Turquoise:
    :Turquoise: :Turquoise:
    :Turquoise: :Turquoise:
    :Turquoise: :Turquoise:

    Where :cobblestone: = the 'door' and :Turquoise: = sticky piston. With appropriate redstone obviously.

    However, the problem is coming back down. The pistons retract fine, but when a sticky piston retracts another sticky piston, any blocks attached to the second sticky piston do not come with it.

    Is there any way to solve this apart from just having a gravel or sand doorway? And preferably without a mess of other pistons inside the door.
    Posted in: Redstone Discussion and Mechanisms
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    posted a message on Global warming?
    Quote from TomTomson

    From my understanding yes global warming is true and has been proven but the question is "Are people causing it or is it just a natural cycle of earths weather?".

    Personally I don't think we're the cause of global warming, we are responsible for only 3% of CO2 emissions into the atmosphere, and the rainforest puts out almost as much CO2 is it cleans up making it not as important as we once thought. Recycling is counter effective when you look at the emissions caused by it. The green movement is a load of bull crap but global warming is happening.

    Nope. It's common knowledge now that global warming is anthropogenic. That is a question that gets asked a lot, but it has a definite answer, that has been thoroughly researched and is accepted as truth by the vast majority of climate scientists (99% I believe) Read my post directly above yours, and my post on the previous page. It explains everything.

    And recycling is a whole different topic altogether which isn't really related to this.


    Also, talking about the rainforest: Carbon Dioxide is a waste products of cellular respiration in plants, but it is also a reactant in photosynthesis. Most of the time plants are past compensation point between photosynthesis + respiration, meaning they are photosynthesising and consuming Carbon Dioxide at a greater rate than they are producing it through respiration. Plants alone under natural conditions do not cause a net increase in carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide as a waste product from respiration of rainforest animals is a part of the natural carbon cycle as described in the post above.

    Also, you haven't provided a source so I don't know how accurate your data is, but 3% is a very significant amount given the delicate nature of biogeochemical cycles.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Global warming?
    Quote from Piratebay

    @jayjay960

    Co2 is indeed a greenhouse gas, but you didn't read my post.
    The human carbon footprint is negligible compared to the natural carbon emissions.
    For instance:
    - Natural forest fires
    - Volcanic activities
    - Lime breakdown by the sea

    Humans don't come even close to these quantity of carbon emissions.


    These things have been occurring at a constant rate for a very long time. Even volcanic eruptions, which are relatively rare events occur at a constant rate. The rate of these things has not increased, so the increasing concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere cannot be attributed to them. They are some of the factors responsible for the baseline amount of carbon dioxide present in the atmosphere, which is necessary for life both because of the greenhouse effect and photosynthesis.

    Natural carbon dioxide emissions are a part of the carbon cycle, which should always be in an equilibrium (or returning to an equilibrium if it has been upset by any spontaneous event). It will not spontaneously rise. We can categorise carbon dioxide emissions under two basic categories: Natural and anthropogenic. Natural levels have remained stable for a very long time and continue to do so as they are recycled through the carbon cycle. Anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions have increased substantially after the industrial revolution. Therefore the rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide can only be attributed to this. It is adding more atmospheric carbon dioxide to the natural carbon cycle, thus upsetting it. Natural cycles are delicate. Even though there may be a huge amount of Carbon Dioxide already present in the atmosphere, changing it a little bit will have repercussions.

    Read this:
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions-intermediate.htm
    It is a very good explanation of what I'm trying to say here.

    Also, if you want to know more about the carbon biogeochemical cycle:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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    posted a message on Why do we need to know?
    I've noticed this. I can't figure it out. I think sometimes it's for sympathy, or maybe they want to be different. Except that doesn't really work that well when everyone does it.


    P.S. My IQ/loneliness/mental illness/bronicity/12-year-oldishness is more than yours.

    P.P.S. Creating adjectives is fun.
    Posted in: General Off Topic
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