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I find that most experiences with Linux tend to feel more or less the same the more familiar you are with Linux. That is, a Linux guru will see that each flavour of Linux has the nearly the same processes and commands as one another, but with only small variances in customizability. Even performance between these server-based distros should be comprable in almost all regards.

After all, you're likely to use the same shell (bash, perhaps), the same core-utils, java, mysql...but where one might use APT-GET, another might use RPM, another might use pkgadd: they all accomplish the same things to the admin. Among GUI-less distros, the experience is practically identical. Of course, comparing to GUI-included distros ('desktop'), it might be an easier transition, just like how Windows7 would probably be easy for Windows gurus.

MineOS uses the approach of a GUI-less distro but with a web-based admin package. It's more on par with a GUI-less distro with spacebukkit or mcmyadmin (but arguably more trimmed down in features and memory requirements). But it's also freely distributed, support provided freely, and does its job quite well, I think.

TLDR: For somebody dipping into hosting for the first time, I'd recommend you use the GUI-less distro you find the most instruction and documentation for, with regard to Minecraft. So, any of those mentioned above.

Quote from AmberK

"put it in a hack machine"

That's the exact moment that you stop worrying and laugh.


Hacking with an IP with less than 10 open ports is very difficult, and most people don't find it worth the effort.

10 ports? That number seems awfully arbitrary (and inflated), seeing as many webservers have far fewer ports than 10 open and can get hacked....

An IP and 1 port is all that's necessary to get hacked, given that one port is open for a server app that is exploitable and the person threatening to do so knows how to.

(and no, that person threatening the OP does not have this knowledge, so don't worry)

Quote from Ghandi

Hi I am creating a minecraft server and I have seen many servers telling people to donate money for certain things. I am just wondering whether this is allowed and if it complies with minecraft terms and conditions.

Thanks Matt

Unless the 'things' people are getting from donating is a 'feeling of niceness from giving away money', they're not actually donating...they're purchasing.

When people depend on those 'donations' to keep the server running, that server is doomed; that model is not very sustainable.

Quote from AmberK

iirc, minecraft runs on the same coding for all windows versions (all the way back to XP sp3?)

More meticulously, craftbukkit (the OP's desired server) runs on Java, which is platform-independent. Thus, any OS that has Java 1.6 or later will be fine, regardless of the particular flavour of Windows.

Quote from hello2u08

@clinton
what are you talking about? i am hosting it on a computer that I own.

He means, what method are you using to start it, i.e., the contents of the shell script.

Since it appears that not all scripts are made equal and don't always work right immediately, it would help to know what you have attempted and also what errors you're getting.

When you simply say "I've tried it all and it doesn't work", it gives us very little to troubleshoot--very, very little for us to make recommendations and give advice with.

So often it's because people never think to adjust the scripts to match the file paths of their own installation, but sometimes it's something more intricate--so, for help...provide more info.

Quote from Deminisher

IFTPed the jar file, but how do I run it?

Are you really paying for a VPS? I'd recommend renting a Minecraft server, rather than a VPS (from which to run a minecraft server) if you are stuck at this step.

Quote from beeprints

Also perhaps set the minimum heap size to 512M or 1024M.

I don't recommend you do this.

Quote from webrosc

i've no idea what the XX flag does tho

Most users don't, which is good reason why they should be left out. The Java VM manages this automatically if not manually set, and essentially setting this says that the size of the 'permanent generation'

This poorly set attribute means that objects in the Java VM that are used for a long time (measured in garbage collections) is limited to 40MB.... 40MB out of 7000000MB. Quite frankly, this is a terrible idea and I would suspect is contributing to the problem here.

Quote from B0T3X1N

Nope, sorry. Linux is famous of it's custom settings. Everyone does it in his own way :smile.gif:

I'm not sure I buy this all that much. Linux may have many distro-specifics, but when it comes down to it... you download a JVM and everything is pretty much exactly the same. Thus, there are hundreds of guides out there that would assist in setting up a Minecraft server, assuming one has the rudimentary knowledge of installing an OS and obtaining the Java JRE...

Quote from shovenose

I have a feeling this is going to turn into another mac os vs. windows vs. linux flamewar, but I'd seriously be interested to know what's best?
I saw this quote on another thread here:

It made me think... what is the best?

I use Bukkit, not the normal Miencraft Server, so I'm curious to know what is the best for hosting a minecraft server?
Right now I use Windows Server 2003 and I'm happy with it, just curious what I'm missing out on on another OS.
thanks

It's largely accepted that there is no 'best' OS. At least, not by simply saying 'best' and not using more descriptive qualifiers, such as 'which OS requires the least amount of configuration know-how to get working?' or 'which OS has the least amount of RAM overhead?' or 'which is actually a server OS?'

That is, any novice who has used Windows desktop his or her entire life will have no problem setting up a windows server running the minecraft server executable. Is it ideal? maybe not. But for somebody with no other knowledge in hosting and administration, running that .exe off their windows server's desktop succeeds at their needs.

When you consider RAM overheads that a GUI adds, many would point toward Linux, touting Ubuntu, CentOS, or Debian as 'the OS'--of course, when one lacks the patience and aptitude to handle command-line, the 'best OS' might instead become 'the worst OS'. Just like if somebody uses a particular distro, fails at one thing, then asserts 'WORST OS EVER'.

MacOSX, in the form that probably everybody has (which is it is their main computer), isn't a server platform. Not to say it can't host, like a windows desktop could, but it certainly couldn't be the best OS on account of it simply just not being tailored for server duties. Performance per megabyte, or by pretty much any other metric, OSX probably isn't going to be the best...unless one has no idea how to use windows or linux, and it is the most simple.

These threads (or more specifically, the voting part of this thread) is unlikely to be representative of the real 'best' OS just for these biases mentioned above, but all that aside, most people will answer 'what is the best OS' with 'what OS did I have just the right amount of patience to stick with?'

Quote from Defakto227

Operating systems are like religion. All good ideas. Everyone is right.

Seconded only if you include Scientology.

Quote from hexparrot

Air blocks are assumed and thus not transmitted. So when a server tells the client 'here is the whole chunk!' and the client thinkss 'but what about the remaining space in this chunk?'--it fills it with air, which saves bandwidth and space.

To address it more directly: it's not compressed, it's omitted.

Partially true and partially incorrect - Before any chunks are loaded the world is filled with no data - so air is assumed then, yes.

However, when chunks are transmitted by the server, it does tell the client where there are air blocks, they're not omitted.

And all the data is compressed with zlib's deflate, also known as gzip.

Quote from teqx

Asides from that, my IT knowledge is rusty and i am unsure, but it would seem that when you connect to your own external IP your signal could be routed back and forth taking the scenic route to a local HUB/network box, thus unnecessarily creating a slightly longer delay (its negligible, but every millisecond counts)
The direct LAN IP route is best, as your signal never even leaves the local network.

Most run-of-the-mill home routers don't allow you to connect to your network using your external IP. Primary reason for this is to prevent spoofing (pretending to be from that network, but you're not)

If it could, teqx is right in saying using LAN IP route is best because packets never leave your home network, and therefore routing hops are kept to a minimum, thus improving latency.

Easy answer:

What ever you're comfortable with.

The performance difference between windows and a linux distro won't matter until you really start stressing the hardware to it's limits. Something most home servers won't do unless you've got an insane upload speed.

I guess your friends have horrible taste in games if they ditch them just for a tiny bug. This usually only happens to me when the server has bad connection.

Ignore the first response.

Remove the IP from the server properties file, leave it a blank line with no space even.

Reboot to make sure no zombie java processes are left.

Ok, the server can't keep up issue is typically not RAM related.

People need to stop with this assumption. Yes minecraft is RAM ***** happy.

This is a computation power issue or a java issue.


My guess is you're running the server on the same computer you're trying to play on?

The real answer is: It all depends on the people playing.

If people get spread out, the server has to run multiple chunks which takes more RAM, CPU, etc. If they all tend to stay within a single chunk it needs a lot less.
Same for redstone- if you have a lot of contraptions, especially ones using a lot of pistons, it can really stress the server.

If you have a nice, fast SSD then running low on RAM might not be nearly as big of a deal as it will be if you're using an old, slow piece of junk.

Well, tell me. What is your current Internet speed in terms of mb/s? If it is less that 100mb/s there is going to be no difference really.