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not really, sight is not as good but total blindness it's rare, human albinos usually have to use glasses but that's it, for animals it's the same

ps: white rabbits are actually all albino

I think of the new cave biome as something separate from the former biomes, as now (the current update) caves have already submerged parts and lakes, my idea is to make it so that separate caves can be an underground river that ends in Underground Lakes or in Submerged Caves and Moist Caves

Underground Lakes being the large water areas we see in the preview from Minecon, Moist Caves being just a transitory area with puddles of water and stuff, like Beach biomes in the overworld, so you know if you are close to big water areas

I think that suffocating is not that mortal alone but is more the stress of it, a normal person can hold their breath 30 seconds but in actuality is more of the psychology of it, in actual scenarios (saving someone or retrieve something) somebody swimming can resist much longer

30 seconds are fine tho, I would personally prefer drowning doing much more damage with fewer ticks (fewer ticks just means that instead of 1 damage in .5 second it's like 2 in 1 second, 3 in 1.5 seconds etc.), we actually drown in few seconds and I would like to see it in the game, to see 0 bubbles should be feared, like having an empty food bar and starving (starving being slow actually make sense because finding food is not as immediate as fining air)

the value I would personally test if I could being 30 seconds, recover at half the speed and double drowning damage (maybe at a slower paste, so the screen jiggle less) with the screen turning black as the damage stacks up

then I would see if it's good to double down again: 60 second, slower recovery and more damage

Water Cave as a Biome

Moist Cave

Underground Lake

Underground River

Submerged Cave

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Water Cave as a Biome

doing some research on caves I found this, and it's majestic

I Would love to see something like this in the game, just a simple Cave variation with some more moisture, bigger underground lakes and those little fellas to make everything a bit magical

I would love to see something that give the player the ability to change weather in survival

They surely already know everything but It's not the time to think about this yet, we have to see the final cave generation first, the new mobs generating below 0 and only then it's time to tweak mob generation

New underwater caves are awesome, just a problem: suffocation

I personally think that 15 seconds are really not much, I love the new immersed cave but I cannot explore them, even with respiration it feels too little, a human can resist at least 30-60 seconds, it's actually a lot and represent the time of respiration 1 (30 seconds) and 3 (60 seconds)

I personally think that 60 seconds by default and 240 with respiration 3 (actually 240 is the dolphin time so it feels right) would be perfect and let players actually appreciate the undersea and the new caves, most players ignore that part of the game (I hate the stress of having that little time and risk to die just to explore a relict, I'm not the only one).

you would recuperate the air 4 times slower, It feels like a good trade and a little bit more realistic (even if it's not the point)

Let's face it, nobody like drowning so fast so I just ask this:

please Mojang can you change the time from 15 seconds to 60 for just one snapshot to see if people like this change?

I would love to explore the new underwater caves in the survival mode even if it's just for a snapshot, the time is so little every time...

The Cave Update so far it's incredible and sprinkled our mind with Ideas, It's been days thinking about it and I want to help by asking what would be a new type of cave that we the players would love to see, these are some Idea based on real caves and biomes already present in the game

Crystal Caves: an extremely rare cave present in the world, like the Naica's Cave in Mexico

Ice Spike Cave: I really like the Ice cave Biome and love to see a harsh cave type where we have slippery ice, ice-covered water and stray skeletons

Mushroom Cave: like the Mushroom fields biome but I think It would be really a magical place within a cave, mushrooms are already present in caves and are known to survive everywhere, plus it may be the place where we can find brown mooshrooms spawned naturally (normally we have to see one struck by lightning)

What do you think about that? I would love to see what's your Ideas, I'm thrilled to know what may see in the game in the 1.17 update!

ICICLE!!! They have the code for stalagmites. Why don't they retexture them and make icicles for the cliffs of mountains. I would LOVE to see that in the game!

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Water already generates underground- esp. with the new aquifers- but I can see a 'Water Cave' biome. Perhaps these flooded caverns are unique to oceans, and could generate unique prismarine structures. They could be lined with coral, and illuminated with sea cucumbers.

This would add an interesting and fun new challenge to the game, making Drowned Zombies effectively "buffed" due to the lack of daylight meaning they cannot burn and they can come out of the water in the underground water caverns as they please, to harass players in the dark.

This would mean players would have to be more careful when wading through these dark aquatic caverns as there could be 2 or even 4 drowned Zombies with tridents at once in the same area. It would also be more difficult to light up these caverns because of the fact that torches cannot be placed underwater.

Actually adding in this biome could be Aquatic Update #2, an enhancement of both the Caves and Cliffs update and Aquatic Update.

Sharks have previously been denied my minecraft https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360005029872-Previously-Considered-Suggestions, but I do support the oasis in a desert, and a new tropical island.

Minecraft Ideas

To be able to plant apple trees.

Have an oasis in the dessert.

Hammers made out of every type of ore/wood.

Have citrus trees like oranges, lemons, limes, avocados.

Have a mod or world of the whole US with worlds for each state - real representations of them.

Have sharks.

Have tropical areas with specific tropical trees, food, landscape, etc.

Have circuses in town - mod.

Have ducks, moose, deer, and more wildlife from woods.

Make restaurants in villages that you can eat at (gives you health).

Have the ability to make ice cream, yogurt, more dairy products from milk.

Make swings and parks with playgrounds in the villages.

Be able to make more types of cakes.

Have bakeries in villages that make cakes and cupcakes.

Be able to get a job in the village and get paid in your choice of items.

Cub scout villagers that go camping.

Tents and all the gear for camping near lakes with fishing like when you are camping.

Pirate Ships and Pirates with treasure maps and treasure to loot.

***Ideas by the Ghergu Family***

The thread title itself is almost a good example of good game design. "Exploration vs Death", or "Exploration vs Risk".

Exploration is good, but it becomes very monotonous without any risk involved. You want to explore that underwater cave where your chances of drowning without Respiration are pretty high? It's what makes playing exciting. The risk involved in exploration.

However, you do make a good point about how a real person can hold their breath for a bit longer than Minecraft's standard 16 seconds. The average person can hold their breath for about 30 seconds. Game balance would be changed slightly if underwater time was increased to 30 seconds, but I feel like it would be a welcome change.

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wow that's cool, I thought it was a drop lmao

Polar bears and pandas don't drop anything too, those animals are in the game for immersion and esthetics, I actually really like bats hopefully we see more of them in big caves and less in small ones so they don't get killed to defend creepers and zombies

Respiration is linked to helmets, a turtle armour could be good to float or mine slightly faster underwater, I actually like the idea it's a rare material after all

My idea is to give all player the possibility to explore underwater because the grand majority of people does not even try, it's too dangerous or difficult to gather resources, Everybody prefers an armour with defence enchantment or unbraking than respiration or aqua affinity and I talk for experience, I tried the enchantments and it's good but it doesn't feel like I can chill underwater and take my time to mine or fight without the stress of suffocation I always run out of time and begin to suffocate (I actually don't like the suffocation damage reduction, what's the point of that? are you supposed to suffocate every time?)

Polar bears drop raw cod and salmon. Don't know anything about the panda drops.

(Btw i'm marking things red to signal what i want to respond to,

i dont think bad about things wich i mark red (unless there are things wich i mark green too(that's just me doing me xD)))

About the under water difficulty: It took me about 3 days to finally figure out how to swim in minecraft.

I know, that might sound ridiculous but um...

xD

When it comes to restoreing air alone, it is quite easy to just place a door or something under water.

Aside from learning how to swim/dive there are only 2 difficulty factors i can think of:

Drowneds with tridents & the ocean monuments.

When you have a difficult time building a guardian farm:

Soo... Let's be honest:

I'm not the kind of player who enjoys the under water content of minecraft that much.

It's not that i dislike the oceans, it just doesn't feel rewarding to explore them,

unless you are interested into building with their contents or if you like diving.

Sponges work weird and it's a drag to get them from ocean monuments.

If you want to remove a large amount of water, a flying machine is what i would go for.

Corals and iceblocks can only be mined with silktouch, wich i find disappointing.

Unless i've visited the nether to get breath potions, i only dive for easy shipwracks.

In this situation i am after bamboo.

But there are things i do like: sea pickles.

Before 1.16 this item had the lowest light level of all the items and i like building dark places!

(To bad you can only grow them on coral blocks)

So.. these where my thoughts about minecrafts under water stuff.

Conclusion:

-Breath is to short, even with turtle-helmet + respiration3

-The ocean monument lacks treasure

-Corals & Ice require silktouch to mine

-The turtle-helmet lost it's worth to netherite helmet

Imo Mojang should add new content to the oceans or improve the monument / breathing.

I recently saw that powder snow is going to be added in the 1.17 update. This trap block freezes its opponents to death. So I came up with the idea that you can be able to shear the goat fur, to then add it on leather armour, which is totally useless, to make a type of fur clothing. This type of armour could be used to not freeze to death when you fall into powdered snow so you don't die in a dumb way. This would make goats more useful and leather armour more useful. I also came up with the idea to make a sleeping bag, with goat fur and leather. This could be used as a bed that does not set you a new respawn point, and it would also look good in igloos. This adds more variety to building, and both add a cooler addition to Minecraft.

Mushroom caves feel sort of Nethery- the Ice Caves sound pretty cool. (No pun intended.) Currently it seems like the cave biomes aren't really effected by whatever's above them. I feel like this makes some sense as a development choice- and it'd no doubt be cool to find some lush caverns deep beneath a barren wasteland- but it's also something of a missed opportunity. I know with Quark's enhanced caves they added a lot of stuff like this- though it's largely unnoticed without further mods for enhanced cave generation. Ice caves would be cool, and could also provide some interesting challenges and opportunities. (I can't help but think of Spelunky- in which the Ice caves have an infuriating combination of slippery surfaces and long falls.) I could also see Sand caverns, perhaps with sinking sand or some other sort of hidden dangers?

Crystal Caves could work too- maybe like extra large variants of the existing Amethyst geodes with some unique crystal pillars of some sort.

I personaly would love to see the lava caves/ravines have some decoration around the lava like magma blocks on the wall where lava touches the stone and some of the magma could extend a bit further about 1-2 blocks to make ti look like there was once lava there. Maybe basalt could also generate too somewhere on the walls.