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Hi, I was just on my friend's server, and my client crashed. I reopened it, and now whenever I log on to a server at all my client crashes instantly. I don't dare try an SSP world, for fear of corrupting the file. I have java error reports.


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# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000000daff2d8, pid=5504, tid=828
#
# JRE version: 6.0_31-b05
# Java VM: Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (20.6-b01 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops)
# Problematic frame:
# C 0x000000000daff2d8
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
# http://java.sun.com/...eport/crash.jsp
#

--------------- T H R E A D ---------------

Current thread (0x00000000077d2800): JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_Java, id=828, stack(0x000000000da00000,0x000000000db00000)]

siginfo: ExceptionCode=0xc0000005, reading address 0xffffffffffffffff

Registers:
RAX=0x00000000eb53f370, RBX=0x00000000bc043f60, RCX=0x00000000c1e14f90, RDX=0x00000000c1e14f00
RSP=0x000000000daff290, RBP=0x00000000bbfd3d0f, RSI=0x00000000c1e13870, RDI=0x00000000023e59cd
R8 =0x00000000000000e7, R9 =0x00000000bc0434a0, R10=0x00000000c2035598, R11=0x00000000bc0434a0
R12=0x0000000000000000, R13=0x000000000daff368, R14=0x0000000000000000, R15=0x00000000077d2800
RIP=0x000000000daff2d8, EFLAGS=0x0000000000210282

Top of Stack: (sp=0x000000000daff290)
0x000000000daff290: 00000000bc94aeb8 0000000000000000
0x000000000daff2a0: 00000000bbfd3d18 0000000000000000
0x000000000daff2b0: 000000000daff310 00000000023e5b22
0x000000000daff2c0: 00000000023e5b22 00000000c0f2d240
0x000000000daff2d0: 000000000daff2d0 00000000bbfd1ca3
0x000000000daff2e0: 000000000daff340 00000000bc94aeb8
0x000000000daff2f0: 0000000000000000 0000000000000247
0x000000000daff300: 0000000000000000 000000000daff340
0x000000000daff310: 000000000daff388 00000000023e5b22
0x000000000daff320: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
0x000000000daff330: 00000000ed339af0 00000000c1e14f90
0x000000000daff340: 00000000bbfd1f88 000000000daff398
0x000000000daff350: 000000000daff3e0 00000000023e59c9
0x000000000daff360: 00000000023e59c9 fff8000000000000
0x000000000daff370: 000000000daff390 fff8000000000000
0x000000000daff380: 00000000023e5b22 fff8000000000000

Instructions: (pc=0x000000000daff2d8)
0x000000000daff2b8: 22 5b 3e 02 00 00 00 00 22 5b 3e 02 00 00 00 00
0x000000000daff2c8: 40 d2 f2 c0 00 00 00 00 d0 f2 af 0d 00 00 00 00
0x000000000daff2d8: a3 1c fd bb 00 00 00 00 40 f3 af 0d 00 00 00 00
0x000000000daff2e8: b8 ae 94 bc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Register to memory mapping:

RAX=0x00000000eb53f370 is an oop
aob
- klass: 'aob'
RBX=0x00000000bc043f60 is an oop
{method}
- klass: {other class}
RCX=0x00000000c1e14f90 is an oop
aoc
- klass: 'aoc'
RDX=0x00000000c1e14f00 is an oop
[Ljava.lang.Object;
- klass: 'java/lang/Object'[]
- length: 10
RSP=0x000000000daff290 is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x00000000077d2800
RBP=0x00000000bbfd3d0f is an oop
{constMethod}
- klass: {other class}
- method: 0x00000000bbfd3d18 {method} 'J' '()Z' in 'lq'
- exceptions: 0x00000000bae01ef8
bci_from(00000000BBFD3D0F) = 23; print_codes():
RSI=0x00000000c1e13870 is an oop
ayf
- klass: 'ayf'
RDI=0x00000000023e59cd is an Interpreter codelet
return entry points [0x00000000023e51e0, 0x00000000023e67a0] 5568 bytes
R8 =0x00000000000000e7 is an unknown value
R9 =0x00000000bc0434a0 is an oop
{instance class}
- klass: {other class}
R10=0x00000000c2035598 is an oop
anw
- klass: 'anw'
R11=0x00000000bc0434a0 is an oop
{instance class}
- klass: {other class}
R12=0x0000000000000000 is an unknown value
R13=0x000000000daff368 is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x00000000077d2800
R14=0x0000000000000000 is an unknown value
R15=0x00000000077d2800 is a thread


Stack: [0x000000000da00000,0x000000000db00000], sp=0x000000000daff290, free space=1020k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native code)
C 0x000000000daff2d8


--------------- P R O C E S S ---------------

Java Threads: ( => current thread )
0x00000000077d4000 JavaThread "Client write thread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4116, stack(0x0000000011ba0000,0x0000000011ca0000)]
0x00000000077d7000 JavaThread "Client read thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=3928, stack(0x000000000a2b0000,0x000000000a3b0000)]
0x000000000b2fe800 JavaThread "Thread-19" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=5128, stack(0x00000000125e0000,0x00000000126e0000)]
0x00000000077d4800 JavaThread "LanServerDetector" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=5444, stack(0x0000000011fa0000,0x00000000120a0000)]
0x00000000077d3000 JavaThread "Thread-13" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4640, stack(0x0000000010b30000,0x0000000010c30000)]
0x00000000077d0800 JavaThread "Thread-12" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2936, stack(0x0000000010a30000,0x0000000010b30000)]
=>0x00000000077d2800 JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_Java, id=828, stack(0x000000000da00000,0x000000000db00000)]
0x00000000077d1800 JavaThread "Timer hack thread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3888, stack(0x000000000cc70000,0x000000000cd70000)]
0x00000000077d1000 JavaThread "Snooper Timer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4908, stack(0x000000000ca70000,0x000000000cb70000)]
0x000000000b68d000 JavaThread "D3D Screen Updater" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4568, stack(0x000000000c260000,0x000000000c360000)]
0x000000000b48d000 JavaThread "TimerQueue" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=5568, stack(0x000000000a630000,0x000000000a730000)]
0x00000000006eb000 JavaThread "DestroyJavaVM" [_thread_blocked, id=2640, stack(0x00000000022e0000,0x00000000023e0000)]
0x0000000006ea0800 JavaThread "Keep-Alive-Timer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=1240, stack(0x000000000a440000,0x000000000a540000)]
0x0000000006cc0000 JavaThread "AWT-EventQueue-0" [_thread_blocked, id=6016, stack(0x000000000a1b0000,0x000000000a2b0000)]
0x0000000006580800 JavaThread "AWT-Windows" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=368, stack(0x0000000007cb0000,0x0000000007db0000)]
0x000000000657f800 JavaThread "AWT-Shutdown" [_thread_blocked, id=3936, stack(0x0000000007bb0000,0x0000000007cb0000)]
0x000000000667f000 JavaThread "Java2D Disposer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3964, stack(0x0000000007a20000,0x0000000007b20000)]
0x00000000064f7800 JavaThread "Low Memory Detector" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=6000, stack(0x0000000006a80000,0x0000000006b80000)]
0x00000000064e1800 JavaThread "C2 CompilerThread1" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4760, stack(0x0000000006980000,0x0000000006a80000)]
0x00000000064dc800 JavaThread "C2 CompilerThread0" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4916, stack(0x0000000006880000,0x0000000006980000)]
0x00000000064da000 JavaThread "Attach Listener" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3632, stack(0x0000000006780000,0x0000000006880000)]
0x00000000064d2800 JavaThread "Signal Dispatcher" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=1088, stack(0x0000000006680000,0x0000000006780000)]
0x00000000006a7000 JavaThread "Finalizer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=5364, stack(0x0000000006380000,0x0000000006480000)]
0x00000000006a4000 JavaThread "Reference Handler" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=4948, stack(0x0000000006280000,0x0000000006380000)]

Other Threads:
0x000000000069c000 VMThread [stack: 0x0000000006180000,0x0000000006280000] [id=2468]
0x0000000006511800 WatcherThread [stack: 0x0000000006b80000,0x0000000006c80000] [id=780]

VM state:not at safepoint (normal execution)

VM Mutex/Monitor currently owned by a thread: None

Heap
PSYoungGen total 152896K, used 45766K [0x00000000eaab0000, 0x00000000f5550000, 0x0000000100000000)
eden space 131072K, 34% used [0x00000000eaab0000,0x00000000ed761b10,0x00000000f2ab0000)
from space 21824K, 0% used [0x00000000f2ab0000,0x00000000f2ab0000,0x00000000f4000000)
to space 21824K, 0% used [0x00000000f4000000,0x00000000f4000000,0x00000000f5550000)
PSOldGen total 349568K, used 35684K [0x00000000c0000000, 0x00000000d5560000, 0x00000000eaab0000)
object space 349568K, 10% used [0x00000000c0000000,0x00000000c22d9188,0x00000000d5560000)
PSPermGen total 62208K, used 28881K [0x00000000bae00000, 0x00000000beac0000, 0x00000000c0000000)
object space 62208K, 46% used [0x00000000bae00000,0x00000000bca34530,0x00000000beac0000)

Code Cache [0x00000000023e0000, 0x00000000026b0000, 0x00000000053e0000)
total_blobs=1463 nmethods=770 adapters=646 free_code_cache=47440704 largest_free_block=14528

Dynamic libraries:
0x0000000000400000 - 0x000000000042f000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
0x00000000770b0000 - 0x0000000077259000 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
0x0000000071490000 - 0x00000000714da000 C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\snxhk64.dll
0x0000000076c20000 - 0x0000000076d3f000 C:\Windows\system32\KERNEL32.dll
0x000007fefd600000 - 0x000007fefd66c000 C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll
0x000007feff130000 - 0x000007feff20b000 C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
0x000007fefdb30000 - 0x000007fefdbcf000 C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
0x000007fefe0b0000 - 0x000007fefe0cf000 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll
0x000007feff210000 - 0x000007feff33d000 C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll
0x00000000769d0000 - 0x0000000076aca000 C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll
0x000007fefdee0000 - 0x000007fefdf47000 C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll
0x000007feff120000 - 0x000007feff12e000 C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll
0x000007fefd8e0000 - 0x000007fefd9a9000 C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll
0x000007fefdb00000 - 0x000007fefdb2e000 C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL
0x000007fefdbd0000 - 0x000007fefdcd9000 C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll
0x000007fefd4d0000 - 0x000007fefd510000 C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll
0x000000006d800000 - 0x000000006dfb8000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\server\jvm.dll
0x000007fefafd0000 - 0x000007fefb00b000 C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll
0x000000006d770000 - 0x000000006d77e000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\verify.dll
0x000000006d3b0000 - 0x000000006d3d7000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.dll
0x000000006d7c0000 - 0x000000006d7d2000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\zip.dll
0x000000006d000000 - 0x000000006d1c4000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\awt.dll
0x000007fefa060000 - 0x000007fefa0d1000 C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
0x000007fefe0e0000 - 0x000007fefe2e3000 C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll
0x000007fefe2f0000 - 0x000007feff078000 C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll
0x000007fefdf50000 - 0x000007fefdfc1000 C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
0x000007fefbf30000 - 0x000007fefc124000 C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.17514_none_fa396087175ac9ac\COMCTL32.dll
0x000007fefb740000 - 0x000007fefb758000 C:\Windows\system32\DWMAPI.DLL
0x000007fefbc70000 - 0x000007fefbcc6000 C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll
0x000007fefd4c0000 - 0x000007fefd4cf000 C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll
0x000000006d2a0000 - 0x000000006d307000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\fontmanager.dll
0x000007fef21c0000 - 0x000007fef23bf000 C:\Windows\system32\d3d9.dll
0x000007fefc5c0000 - 0x000007fefc5cc000 C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll
0x000007fefbf00000 - 0x000007fefbf07000 C:\Windows\system32\d3d8thk.dll
0x000007feede20000 - 0x000007feeefa0000 C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dumx.dll
0x0000000077270000 - 0x0000000077277000 C:\Windows\system32\PSAPI.DLL
0x000007fefba20000 - 0x000007fefba4c000 C:\Windows\system32\powrprof.dll
0x000007fefdce0000 - 0x000007fefdeb7000 C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll
0x000007fefd8a0000 - 0x000007fefd8d6000 C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll
0x000007fefdfd0000 - 0x000007fefe0a7000 C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
0x000007fefd710000 - 0x000007fefd72a000 C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll
0x0000000180000000 - 0x0000000180116000 C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvSCPAPI64.dll
0x000007fef7180000 - 0x000007fef7227000 C:\Windows\system32\dxgi.dll
0x000000006d610000 - 0x000000006d627000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\net.dll
0x000007fefdab0000 - 0x000007fefdafd000 C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll
0x000007fefe0d0000 - 0x000007fefe0d8000 C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll
0x000007fefcd40000 - 0x000007fefcd95000 C:\Windows\system32\mswsock.dll
0x000007fefcd30000 - 0x000007fefcd37000 C:\Windows\System32\wship6.dll
0x000000006d630000 - 0x000000006d63b000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\nio.dll
0x000007fefc690000 - 0x000007fefc697000 C:\Windows\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x000007fef93c0000 - 0x000007fef93ef000 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDNSP.DLL
0x000007fefcbc0000 - 0x000007fefcc1b000 C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll
0x000007fefb1f0000 - 0x000007fefb217000 C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL
0x000007fefb1e0000 - 0x000007fefb1eb000 C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL
0x000007fef8990000 - 0x000007fef8998000 C:\Windows\system32\rasadhlp.dll
0x000007fefb0a0000 - 0x000007fefb0f3000 C:\Windows\System32\fwpuclnt.dll
0x000007fefcda0000 - 0x000007fefcdb7000 C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll
0x000007fefcaa0000 - 0x000007fefcae7000 C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
0x000007fefc7d0000 - 0x000007fefc7ee000 C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll
0x000007fefd510000 - 0x000007fefd51f000 C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll
0x000007fefb570000 - 0x000007fefb585000 C:\Windows\system32\NLAapi.dll
0x000007fef9410000 - 0x000007fef9425000 C:\Windows\system32\napinsp.dll
0x000007fef93f0000 - 0x000007fef9409000 C:\Windows\system32\pnrpnsp.dll
0x000007fef93b0000 - 0x000007fef93bb000 C:\Windows\System32\winrnr.dll
0x000000000a750000 - 0x000000000a798000 C:\Users\Matt\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives\lwjgl64.dll
0x000007fefaa20000 - 0x000007fefab3d000 C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll
0x000007fefafa0000 - 0x000007fefafcd000 C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll
0x000007fef5640000 - 0x000007fef5731000 C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll
0x000007fefaf90000 - 0x000007fefaf98000 C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll
0x000000006d3f0000 - 0x000000006d3f7000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jawt.dll
0x00000000575f0000 - 0x0000000058f41000 C:\Windows\system32\nvoglv64.DLL
0x000007fefd5c0000 - 0x000007fefd5f9000 C:\Windows\system32\WINTRUST.dll
0x000007fefd730000 - 0x000007fefd89a000 C:\Windows\system32\CRYPT32.dll
0x000007fefd5b0000 - 0x000007fefd5bf000 C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll
0x000007fefb710000 - 0x000007fefb73d000 C:\Windows\system32\ntmarta.dll
0x000007fefd9b0000 - 0x000007fefda02000 C:\Windows\system32\WLDAP32.dll
0x000007fef1600000 - 0x000007fef1722000 C:\Users\Matt\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives\OpenAL64.dll
0x000007fefac40000 - 0x000007fefacc8000 C:\Windows\system32\dsound.dll
0x000007fefda10000 - 0x000007fefdaa9000 C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL
0x000007fefb9d0000 - 0x000007fefba1b000 C:\Windows\System32\MMDevApi.dll
0x000007fefbdb0000 - 0x000007fefbedc000 C:\Windows\System32\PROPSYS.dll
0x000007fef3180000 - 0x000007fef31bb000 C:\Windows\system32\wdmaud.drv
0x0000000074620000 - 0x0000000074626000 C:\Windows\system32\ksuser.dll
0x000007fefbcd0000 - 0x000007fefbcd9000 C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll
0x000007fefaf40000 - 0x000007fefaf8f000 C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL
0x000007fef5420000 - 0x000007fef542a000 C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv
0x000007fef30f0000 - 0x000007fef3108000 C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll
0x000007fef30e0000 - 0x000007fef30e9000 C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll
0x000000006d550000 - 0x000000006d55a000 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\management.dll
0x000007fefb050000 - 0x000007fefb068000 C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc.DLL

VM Arguments:
jvm_args: -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
java_command: C:\Users\Matt\Desktop\Minecraft.exe
Launcher Type: SUN_STANDARD

Environment Variables:
PATH=C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\Lucidlogix Technologies\VIRTU;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Shared;C:\Program Files (x86)\Calibre2\;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
USERNAME=Matt
OS=Windows_NT
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel



--------------- S Y S T E M ---------------

OS: Windows 7 , 64 bit Build 7601 Service Pack 1

CPU:total 4 (4 cores per cpu, 1 threads per core) family 6 model 42 stepping 7, cmov, cx8, fxsr, mmx, sse, sse2, sse3, ssse3, sse4.1, sse4.2, popcnt

Memory: 4k page, physical 8298008k(5379884k free), swap 16594164k(12986508k free)

vm_info: Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (20.6-b01) for windows-amd64 JRE (1.6.0_31-b05), built on Feb 3 2012 18:34:57 by "java_re" with MS VC++ 8.0 (VS2005)

time: Wed Dec 05 15:52:36 2012
elapsed time: 9 seconds"

I also put it on pastebin
Help. My client is vanilla minecraft. I have not modded it at all. The server is vanilla minecraft, totally unmodded.

Well, it needs to be LAN. So, look up how to do a lan network.

If you want to do it over the internet you need Hamachi, which essentially sets up a lan network over the internet.

Mobs don't spawn on mycelium, but they do spawn on grass. The biome type doesn't matter, it's the block type. Only mooshrooms spawn on mycelium, and mooshrooms will spawn on mycelium outside of a mushroom biome.

Bump

Holy crap. I'm so excited for this to come back.

Quote from doctorseaweed2

Maybe it could be used in potions?

As a potion enhancer, that increases the effects of potions, or an ingredient in new potions?

Quote from theFallenBreed

Yeah i'm not much into using wool for too much decorating or to build my homes with. Though many people are. So I like to use the lapis for colored wool to sell, helps on servers that have iConomy. That or I just horde it for some reason. Idk why I like to collect it. Though this game makes me for of a collector then usual.

I do like the idea though of maybe being able to make vertical redstone circuits with it, though idk how that would make since with it being a soft dye. Idk on its conductive properties. Potions maybe...maybe thats how you can give the Snow Golems powers.

Blue milk?

Well, we seem to be able to make a hard block out of it with our bare pixelfists and a crafting table. Maybe it could be that Lapis doesn't conduct redstone current like other blocks, allowing the vertical redstone line to be held up by it, or something?

Right now, Lapis Lazuli is practically useless. The only thing I can use it for is the occasional accent in buildings(And pixel art, but i'm talking about legit mined Lapis).

I dunno of any uses for it myself. Someone care to voice their thoughts on a use for it? Other than dying wool and lapis blocks.

Ideas:
Redstone parts(Ex, vertical redstone lines, redstone clock block)
Potions
A mob-repellant effect on solid lapis blocks?
"Improves" Snow Golems, allowing them to cause damage?

Quote from BluCluuu

What is this trick you speak of?

I'm wondering the same thing..

Put him on a minecart, or surround him with water.

Quote from KeKoSlayer29

Thanks and i have an idea for 1.8 too but i dont want to give it away yet :biggrin.gif:

Are you still updating this? If you make a version for 1.0 it would be awesome.

Ugly as hell. I hate them. I hope a mod comes out for regular NPC models soon after the release :/

Another thing, Mojang said that biomes wouldn't be as random, with tiny desert patches and tundra next to jungles and deserts and savanna.

Guess what, Tundra is still next to Jungles, Deserts and Savanna. People still find tiny biomes, too.

Quote from nwalker248

You expect too much from one man ( ) :ohmy.gif: :ohmy.gif: :ohmy.gif: :ohmy.gif:

Except, Notch didn't work on a damn thing for 2 weeks. Infact, Jeb was the only one who worked on 1.8 for 2 weeks.

Quote from LordSharpe

Notch did say that they were going to move half of 1.8 to 1.9

Yeah, AFTER they already promised all this and went through some delays. They still didnt deliver the original update as they touted it.