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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    ehh, to be fair his response on twitter is pretty prudent. it sounds like he hasnt talked to them yet so for now ill give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he will apologize later after he's had a chance to sort things out with yogscast directly.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    well yeah i'm not saying he should be held directly responsible for some moron DDOSing the yogscast website, exactly. but when he speaks a lot of people listen. if he didn't realize that before he sure as hell will now. someone mentioned libel earlier in this thread - it's a legitimate legal offense to ruin someone else's reputation in a way that can be demonstrated to affect their lives negatively. if someone libels a grocery store chain with false accusations, the people who stop shopping there are not the ones who get charged with libel.

    not that i'm saying yogscast should sue. legal action sounds a bit excessive, and it's complicated by the fact that notch made minecraft in the first place. i just hope they'll work it out with notch peacefully and in private, which is what i think should've been done in the first place. it's not good to be having these kinds of confrontations in the public eye when there's so many people watching it happen. the yogscast and notch ARE all just human after all, but communities like this one are not particularly forgiving or understanding about that.


    tldr who knows the full story about how the yogscast behaved at minecon besides them, we have to piece it together from bits of footage, reports from people who met them for all of 30 seconds, etc, which is likely how notch pieced it together too. but i do think notch made a big mistake by going off on them on his twitter account.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    because actions have consequences, even if they're unintentional. that's like rule #1 of taking responsibility.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    Quote from yourself33

    It's not that hard to think of a way to make yourself seem more mature then someone else.


    yeah. the easiest way to do this is to be more mature than someone else.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    Quote from we6jbo

    I think the big issue here is that Tim and Lewis needs notch and minecraft but notch does not need Yogscast and Tim with Lewis. So the issue with the fans is that if you like notch and minecraft then great. You'll have a wonderful life. But if you like Yogscast and what Simon and Lewis does in minecraft, well then you also better like notch because he made that game.


    :laugh.gif: why? what does this have to do with anything? like shitty people can't create anything good? have you listened to rock music lately? or beethoven for that matter?

    not that notch is a shitty person, i have no clue, don't know the guy, doubt anyone here does. but also how do simon and lewis need notch and minecraft? they were around before that, pretty sure they were part of the game station and had done material with totalbiscuit among others. there's a gaming community outside minecraft you know.

    anyway all that is irrelevant regarding who's in the right and who's in the wrong here.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    Quote from ZanDooma

    The statement the Yogscast came out with is what you call a nice piece of politics. They are pulling the "Ooh poor pitiful me" with some "I have no idea what your talking about" along with a little "It was all for the community". This is all just classic sweat talk people have been using for ages. I don't see what is so hard to see about that.

    From what I have seen of the Yogscast, they could very easily do all of what they are accused of. In one of there videos they were at some battleship and they crossed over the barriers and almost went and sat on one of the bomb displays. (Forgive me, I could not find the video but anyone who follows the Yogscast knows EXACTLY what i'm talking about.) That is a perfect example of the immaturity they are capable of and why the accusations are not very far-fetched.

    I would like to add next that the main point of the Yogcast's presentation seemed to be how terrible minecraft is and how much better the mods in there YogBox made minecraft. Even if that was not there intention, that is how it came across. And that would make any developer furious.

    In the end though the only solid evidence we have is the Yogscast's past behavior which would fit every accusation attributed to them. But we must also take into account that it would make no sense for Notch to blatantly lie over something that could turn out so aggressive. No one would. Nor should we forget that it is a common courtesy that at public events, if your a looked up to figure, and there are young ones about; you hold your freaking tongue when giving a speech and speak like a respectable person instead of a dirty-mouthed sailor.

    In the end the only logical explanation available, given what we know, is that the Yogscast played the part of the spoiled famous people and let some stuff slip when interacting with other minecraft fans which, in reaction, Notch got mad about and over reacted on twitter. What needs to happen is for the Yogscast to stop playing Captain Innocent and be the first to apologize. Just like when Daddy breaks up the fight at home, it is only right for whoever caused the fight to be the first to say i'm sorry.


    what everyone needs to realize, and what notch likely forgot when he was posting his initial tweets, is that the yogscast are first and foremost comedians. whether you find their antics funny or not is pretty much irrelevant. i just finished watching their panel and there's nothing all that offensive about it. they did say some smart-ass things about the vanilla game, but they've been saying smart-ass things about everything they've ever done a video on (including minecraft) since they first started posting world of warcraft videos. if notch thought they were going to fly out there, stroke his ego for 30 minutes and go home, well, i have to assume then that notch has never actually watched a yogscast video and just invited them because of their promotional value. it's the same sarcastic shtick they've always done.

    and most of all, they chose to highlight one of the things that make minecraft as great as it is - the endless creative possibilities. all of 3 minutes was spent actually promoting the yogbox, which in typical self-deprecating yogscast fashion, they openly admitted was just a compilation of the immense talent of other people, which was made possible by minecraft. they probably should have gone out of their way to give props to mojang at least once during the panel, but they were hardly as terrible as notch's tweets made it sound. more a social faux paus than anything, and it really should have been taken care of between notch and the yogscast privately from the start.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    Quote from PotatoHandle

    Let me summarize the 4,000 youtube comments by demographic for you:

    Children - **** NOTCH
    Trolls/Dyslexics - **** YOGSCAST
    College Goers/Young Adults - Everyone was drunk, who gives a ****?
    Adults - Very mature/professional reply guys, in the absence of further evidence, I think Notch should apologize.
    ADD Sufferers - WHERE DID SIMON'S BEARD GO?!


    pretty much.
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    posted a message on Yogscast Responds To Statement
    seems pretty reasonable to me to wait until they got back. they were no doubt exhausted, and allegedly simon was coming down with a bug. i have no idea what they'd stand to gain from "buying themselves more time." actually they probably lost a lot of subscriptions which they could have avoided by responding immediately. they probably also had an emotional reaction to being called out by notch like that and wanted to avoid having that color their response.

    the thing is there was probably some reasonable misunderstanding and everyone makes an ass of themselves occasionally. unfortunately for notch, when he made an ass of himself this time he did it in public to everyone who reads his twitter. and unfortunately for everyone, many people on the internet are too dense to think all that through. the community response on both sides has been far, far more embarrassing than could ever come out of either notch's or the yogscasts' mouths.
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    posted a message on Nether update: What do YOU think it should include?
    the ghast should be slightly less common. they're actually a pretty tough mob if you don't abuse the baseball bat technique with their fireballs. they make doing anything out in the open in the nether next to impossible. taking them down legit with arrows can really drain on your resources when they stay so far away. ALTHOUGH, charged arrows may make this a totally different situation, i haven't tried it. but my favorite moments with ghasts have always been when there's just one or two roaming around behind the cliffs making their little crying noises and i'm trying to do something quickly because they could find me at any moment - and when they find me it's like my worst nightmare coming true.

    basically if you spend more than 5 minutes in the nether you should have encountered a ghast at some point, either face to face or nearby, but they shouldn't be all over the place making the nether just plain irritating.

    there should be some more typical mobs that get up in your face. there don't have to be a ton, but something for variety, that doesn't spawn in huge groups but dotted all around. something that behaves similarly to the silverfish would definitely be appropriate, some kind of hellworm. especially if silverfish only occur in strongholds.

    i don't have enough imagination to come up with a new unique mob for the nether, everything i'd come up with would basically be a biome-specific re-skin. but there should probably be at least one more mob with unique behavior.


    as for other stuff, i dunno. there should probably be more variety in the landscape generation. definitely some kind of biome-specific "vegetation" or mineral formations or something, to make the place look more alien. uses for glowstone dust would be nice. as well as at least one or two other valuable resources that have to be dug around for (glowstone is easy to spot and netherrack is every****ingwhere so why would i spend a lot of my time digging around in the nether? other than sheer boredom i mean?) zombie pigmen are probably fine. i dunno if they should occur in villages the same way overworld NPC's will, but maybe they could construct temporary nomadic dwellings, then move on after a minimum amount of time has passed? just an idea, i'm not married to it. but it would be cool if they had some kind of terrain generation algorithm built into their behavior, so they actually moved netherrack around to make their little rock huts. something that could, by the way, be adapted to endermen so they actually built something when they moved blocks around (although it would be creepier if endermen built abstract geometric shapes of some kind.)

    actually while i'm on the subject of endermen, they could spawn in the nether too. that's the one case where i think an overworld mob should also be in the nether.

    all in all, i don't think the nether needs to be like a whole fully-fleshed out alternate version of the overworld. but it does need some work. i don't see much point in going to it, other than to spend hours harvesting glowstone dust that isn't very useful.
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    posted a message on Mooshroom Discussion
    it's hilarious. i approve.
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    posted a message on Minecraft is EASY MODE all the time now
    Quote from Firetempest

    well, like, it couldn't have been all at once because a single creeper blast will kill all the others around it before they pop. creepers can still kill you in one hit with no armor, and health only regens at a half heart per sec IF food is above 80% which is much harder to obtain when I purposely start on a island with no passive mobs and I survived off the rotten flesh of the land.
    Running around in forests collecting mountains of beef and pork for zero hunger makes it no harder now as it did when you could instantly heal with food anyway.


    semantics etc. yes it was one after the other in about a 10 second time frame. one of them was right on top of me and i had no armor. i didn't die. then health regen saved me from the next one literally seconds later. getting hit by a creeper without armor before would - at best - cripple you with only a heart or 1/2 heart and send you desperately running for shelter, and because food didn't stack you couldn't always spam your way back to full health at any time.

    i'm not saying it should go back to the old system - i'm glad notch is trying to make it more nuanced. but something is BROKEN if you can load up a new survival mode game on hard mode and immediately tank damage from the most dangerous mob in the game without any consequences.
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    posted a message on Minecraft is EASY MODE all the time now
    i agree, so far. keep in mind i havent been able to play for more than 5 minutes at a time. but i took like 4 creeper blasts in the face and survived. i can just stand there and tank arrows from a skeleton endlessly. it's pretty ridiculous. i like the idea of having a hunger bar but it's severely overpowered right now. there's no survival involved. there's nothing scary about it anymore.
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    posted a message on Got a problem running 1.8?
    Quote from Badprenup

    @babydoctor:

    Are you running a 64 bit or a 32 bit (x86) OS? This also sounds like the memory leak error.


    i'm not sure. my system information says:

    System Type: x86-Based PC


    and the processor is something x86 too. so i guess 32 bit?
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    posted a message on What ruined it for you?
    i don't have a problem with most of the content changes. though the food meter/health regen dynamic may need to be rebalanced a little bit - i just took like 4 creeper blasts in the face like a BAWS because my hunger meter was full. that's just a little silly. if even the creeper is a joke now, nothing about this game will be scary anymore.
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    posted a message on Got a problem running 1.8?
    windows xp
    2 gigs ram i think

    minecraft 1.8.1 obviously

    java version has varied while i'll been trying to fix this ****. i deleted all old versions, then downloaded java 6 update 27. what would happen was, it would play like normal (choppy at times but good at others, like it always has for me), but for like 2 minutes only. then it would go to black screen, or to an insufficient memory screen, but mostly the black screen (i must've tried this 50 times by now.) so after reading around i got java 7 x84 i think, which by the way is RAPING my computer right now. minecraft was crashing in the same manner at first but then i turned it down to fast graphics. now it's just laggy and buggy as hell. i dunno if the fast graphics fix would've had the same effect with java 6. honestly the game was running just fine in terms of lag - it's this memory crash that's different for 1.8.
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