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Quote from EveIyn_McKnight

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Just wanted to step in about the "brightness problem" you mentioned.

(IE: It is darker in game now, than before.)

I too have noticed this, I always run on "moody's point" though. I also notice, if you hit "F1" (To remove the HUD) the "new darkness" goes away. Well, until the HUD comes back

PS: Been playing the new snapshot, lookin' tasty! (I know 'tis not topic, but I had mucho nay-saying so I thought I would throw in a happy hiatus)

Also, congrats on the 7mill sales Mojang Score +10 for "Mom and Pop" Score -10 to the corporate greed!

PS: Mojang counts as a "Mom and Pop" to me, since they are not a big ass nasty beast of a company....yet

Quote from 5thHorseman

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Oh, please do not misunderstand my position.

I do not "prefer" anything. Mojang is handling things to the best of their abilities, I mean who wouldn't? While I never have posted on the wiki (bugs, or elsewhere) I do check it everytime I hit one. And, every time, it is already listed. (Hence the not posting)

All I offered was an idea that would help them sift through the bugs to the more important ones. Ones that should not be in a full release. (IE Nether death) Since that was happening in the snapshot prior to the pre-release, it should never have made it into the release.

Again, when I experienced the bug in the aforementioned snapshot. I checked the wiki to see it was already posted. (It was.)

I just downloaded and set up the newest snapshot (for 1.4) I have not tried any Nether travel yet, but I imagine the bug is gone by now.

Again, I like Mojang. I like Minecraft. Do I think they could handle tech support better, sure. Am I right? Who knows; I don't.

EDIT--
Snapshot still has the water current + block = damage.

Just sayin'

Quote from 5thHorseman

To everybody saying we need to form a community of people to report bugs... we already have that, and it's working. Even better, YOU are in that community.

Considering all the bugs mentioned in this thread were on that wiki page right after the snapshot (AND prerelease) Seems to be a bit of a moot page, no?

Sure, the bug is listed there. But with no conformation from Mojang, how are we to know that they are working on it?

Most companies I deal with have an actual website that caters to these things, not "twitter" accounts wikis and blogs. Hell even the minecraft.net site is out of date, or did they finally remove Notch's twitter posts? (When did he quit partaking in development?)

Again, all this stuff does is point to a lack of communication. For a company with a small staff, it is understandable. When Cryptic Studios hit this issue, they formed a player base to fill the gap. Not to mention their forum moderators assisted in gap filling...

Does Mojang own these forums? If that is a no, where are their forums? (Oh yeah...)

If I had a way to contact them, I might do so. Though I attribute the tweet to them as part of the problem. What I mean to say is, I am not a fancy pants. Someone else has to have proffered this idea to them.

Honestly, I think they should use the moderators of the sections that require game+computer know-how.

I would offer my services, but I am only good at typing really long posts and playing buggy games
(Just a joke Mojang, you know I love yous!)

To be honest, if their company is as small as I think it is. (under 50 folks total) then I am surprised that they are doing as well as they are. Think, how many millions of folks have the game? Subtract 50, (That's if ALL of them Mojangers went to customer support of course)

We still have at least 999,940 folks that could have issues. Since some of those folks come here, we (the players that are not having issues with the game) could do our deeds; see if we can help out too.

Lastly, and I can't stress this enough; I feel your pain!! Players who can not play MC, or have a horrible time whilst playing. I hope my posts have not come off as "Too bad so sad". 1.3.1 has been a wonderful update (content wise) however, if you can't play it then it is a terrible update. I am reading everyones troubles, but I don't know the first thing about repairing them. Hell, many of the puters involved would anal rape mine if given the chance!

Error.....errrrrorrr...input in output!!

Quote from lcatania

Anyone that has computer problems , should just quit computers and go be a landscaper.

I already did that! You think I have computer problems, you should see the scapped land I did!

Also, a computer problem(s) doesn't require one to be "into computers". My eighty-year-old grandmother, for instance, has computer problems daily. If I told her your advice, she would probably have a heart attack from all the extra work!

My only words of comfort are to remember Mojang is not Blizzard. Mojang is not SquareEnix. Mojang is not a company with hundreds (if not thousands) on their staff.

Guess what happens when there are less workers working on something? (It gets done slower, and will have more flaws due to lack of flaw checkers.)

Which reminds me, a small playerbase that could talk with the larger version on behalf of Mojang would help shore up them low worker numbers....

Quote from fung0

3. Most important, when I started digging coal in brand-new world, I started getting experience for it. That was the deal-breaker. Might as well remove the experience system entirely, if you're going to hand out points for digging, walking and breathing.

Why is this such a big issue? What is experience used for? When you "level up" do you do more damage to monsters? Do you regenerate faster? Get hungry less?

Or can you just enchant weapons, randomly? Can you just enchant several axes now, instead of just one, trying to get the enchantments you want? Can you do this without building a spawner trap?

Can you do this without having to spend a great deal of time building library blocks?

I understand experience being a problem, if it wasn't just another form of in game cash. Cash that can only be spent on enchanting...randomly...

Quote from Nostaire

Unless you're partied? SWTOR and probably a dozen other games would also not be MMOs using that definition. Besides, if you're going to remove the game from the genre you have to give it a genre to go into.

Aye, but a MMO (to me) is a game that is multiplayer at all times. Asheron's Call comes to mind...

Quote from Nostaire

Also, MC updates have been a joke since a solid 6 months before release when it became clear that the obscene amount of money Mojang was making and all the parties they were throwing weren't leading to creatively enhancing their player's experience.

Cynicism aside...

MC has not had an update since 1.2.5 If you're saying that the "snapshots" (or test builds) were buggy...well that was their purpose.

The only problem I can see is lack of communication between the testers (us) and Mojang. Which is why I suggested a playerbase group that could bridge that gap.

Quote from Nostaire

I'd rather just not have to do with 5-7 days of instability for... emerald.

I am going to assume this was just a loaded sentence. Because they have added much more than ...emerald.

Again, I do feel bad that you folks can not experience the game now. Since the 1.3 release only issues I have seen are the Nether bug, and water damage. Doesn't mean the other issues are "unimportant" or anything, just that I have not experienced them. Again, that group of players who could talk to Mojang would come in handy...

Quote from jetfox

good, now i can have a bit of peace of mind. i have no clue what 'snooper mode' is so i have no clue if it is off or on. is it a seperate program? because even with control pack and optifine which have settings out the whazzo i have no snooper thing. and it's not on magic launcher my mod manager either. so i can assume for now it is no issue. than again i'm not sure what it is.

Two things:

1) I run vanilla, so any modifications I will have no idea if they are sending data via net.

2) Snooper mode should be somewhere under options, I do not remember off hand exactly where. (Options in MC that is)

Quote from jetfox

and what i mean by server issues, is mostly stability and if a big company like blizz has crap servers, then i doubt any smaller company or less has anything remotely decent. i mostly didn't want to be on minecraft and have it suddenly croak for no reason.

Well I am neither a big nor small company. I run a personal server that 10 or so folks play on, none have them have "suddenly croaked for no reason"

As a matter of fact, any online (MMO or otherwise) game I have played; never have I "suddenly croaked for no reason". Hell even the current MC release, I die cause the Nether isn't loading properly.

Look into how servers operate, in general. Once you understand the basics, you should be able to find a server that is run properly.

Quote from jetfox

i hate multiplayer in games, online or otherwise, ranks right up with quick time events to me. both are better off removed. so that is my main concern. i started minecraft as a lone wolf and i'll be damned if that changes. but now i know it won't.

Well, since ye are not the only player of Minecraft I would have to say that suggestion is not too valid. What happens to all the folks that like playing with their friends? They should not get to enjoy a game, because you don't like multiplayer?

Just don't play multiplayer.

And don't open your map up for LAN play...

Quote from jetfox

before i update, or look to see if half the mods i use updated. remember the online singleplayer thing. i still don't like it. private or not i want my map to stay on my harddrive only. i'm the only one i trust with it.

Your map goes nowhere. Your world is only MP if you open it to be such. (yes yes, the client is still running server code. But you are not broadcasting.)

Even if you were broadcasting, the only way a person could "get your map" is if they typed /seed and then copied it. Or if you gave it to them as a DL of course.

Quote from jetfox

besides i know what syncing and streaming from a server is about in a game, and it sucks. i have a small stutter which i think is from having to log in to use my skin. nothing else explains it. i can run a 16x16 texturepack and have the game run the same with a 128x128, that means the issue is unlikely on my end.

The only thing the game does when you "log in" is check to make sure you have an account. It may also get the skin image from minecraft.net, but other than that no more data. Did you make sure you had "snooper mode" disabled? That would be sending a stream to Mojang.

Quote from jetfox

not to mention servers are not reliable, i know that from WoW, damn servers always broke on it, and though i never lost anything i couldn't run the game, and having an addiction didn't help. i can rely on my pc far more, ironically. and god knows i would be a basket case if i didn't know what was going on with my map all the time.

WoW hosts its own servers, Minecraft servers are player hosted (for the most part).

Tis not too fair comparing the two. It's like calling Guild Wars 1 a MMO. Sure you can talk to folks in town, but once you go out to quest you are solo.

So if you want a reliable server, then find a player with a good server setup. As for Mojang, they do not host a dedicated MC server (to my knowledge)

Quote from jetfox

if my map stays unchanged i'm happy. [besides the normal updates, more stuff, changes, etc...]

Your map will stay unchanged. Unless you change it.

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(Some recommended reading)
http://www.minecraft...age__hl__+merge

In real terms, the average player should not even notice the difference between things as they are now and things as they will be after the change has been implemented. You will log into your game and into your world just as normal. It is only really the background that has adjusted, the way the game works within itself. You will not need an internet connection to play Minecraft, the 'server' will be hosted on your own home computer, meaning that you can still play even while offline.

Perhaps someone with more clout should lobby for a community proxy for Mojang?

For the Layman: We need a small group of community members that can talk straight to the bug department at Mojang. A "unified voice" so to speak.

Right now they get massive amounts of "spam" (No matter the content, with the amounts they are recieving it all lumps together.) I mean it was enough for Jeb to "teach a lesson" by removing the emerald blocks. If we had a small group that the community as a whole talked through, it would make these game breaking bugs less likely to appear. (if at all)

Not saying "no bugs", just saying that these huge ones could be ID'ed before it is "too late". (IE: Official Release) Plenty of Mods Moderators here, perhaps they could shoulder some of the bug reporting load? Or the folks over at the Wiki?

Really, this smells like a communication error. I don't think they knew these bugs were there....well I hope they didn't know...

I love the game, and I respect Mojang as the artists they are. I hope you folks experiencing problems can get them resolved! I would recommend a nicer approach than I have seen in here, but I understand frustration sucks like that

PS: For all the bug reporters. It helps speed up squashing if you post your bugs here:

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.3.1

Of course, many of the reported bugs in this thread are already on that page. Which reminds me of my post before this one.....play testers.....

If ye would listen to us snapshot testers, these bugs (gamebreakers) would be less likely to crop up in a "stable" release....

I seem to be of a minority!

1.3.1 has been a great update, in my minor opinion. The only "game breakers" that have been introduced would be:

Water Current Push + Block = Damage

And, the more (again, my opinion) important:

Go to Nether + Return from Nether + Go to Nether = Free trip to Void

I can see how the first, could have been missed. But the second...Mojang!!!

Dost thou have play testers? I mean, that kind of bug should have been experienced LONG before it was a snapshot (let alone a full release)

All well, other than those two issues. I have run into nothing that has made my gameplay "bad".

As for FPS issues, I run a server AND play the game on the same machine. Which means I am running two servers now, since the client is a server too. No lag. This computer is an "off the shelf" ACER that was 1000 bucks. I don't have the exact specs, needless to say it is NOT top of the line. It wasn't that 3 years ago when I bought it.

Sorry that all you folks are having these problems. 1.3.1 has been a great update, if you get to experience it as I have. (Minus the above of course.)

Again, Mojang, two words: Play testers.

Or, three words: MORE play testers

PS: We are not play testers, even though that is what the snapshots are for. Just because our feedback is not listened to, or these bugs would have been quashed after the "pre-release"

So where do I download the server? The wiki doesn't have it, this site doesn't have it, and Mojang doesn't have it...

Any links? Every other server snapshot/update had a link here, on the wiki, and on Mojang.com

EDIT--
Went to minecraft.net (have not been there since I bought the game)

Used this link: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe

Have not tested the server yet, hopefully tis the 1.3.1

Guess I should ask again...

If emeralds are "only currency" then what is pictured at the top of this thread?

"I am gonna remove the emerald ore, but I am going to add blocks you build with emerald ore... Oh and remember, emeralds are just currency!"
(That's where the confusion comes from...confusing statements.)

If there be no emerald ore, then where do emeralds come from?

Also, if emeralds are "currency only" then what the hell are the emerald blocks pictured above?

The only confusion he should be miffed with, is the confusion they create by not having a proper PR department.

"I am gonna remove the emerald ore, but I am going to add blocks you build with emerald ore... Oh and remember, emeralds are just currency!"

Ug