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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from cnerde

    That isn't the mistake, it's making a tablet OS for desktops.
    And who knows, they said Windows 8 was going to be 64 bit only, then decided 32 bit for ARM only, then 32 bit for all. So they may continue to do that again and again.


    Its not a tablet Os I think this has been coverd

    Microsoft never said this that was the rumor but then MS debunked them.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from cnerde

    It may only get worse from 8, but I know I am staying with 7 until support ends, or they see their mistake and 9 is different.


    What mistake Windows 8 is faster and more efficient in resource usage then 7.



    Also worth noting Windows 8 is the last version of Windows that will come in a 32bit flavor.
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    posted a message on Difference between grpahics and regular ram?
    Vram runs at much much much higher speed and is built for lots of bandwidth.
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    posted a message on Whats wrong with my Java?
    Quote from Penguin236

    Stop listening to him, he's an idiot. You don't install both versions. If you have Win7 64 bit, then download ONLY the 64 bit version.


    Actually he is right a 32bit browser needs a 32bit install of Java. Most people never need a Java install for their browsers though.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Also its pretty easy to disabled Windows 8 fast start up its under power options.
    So if you dislike that feature its optional.

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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from fm87


    .......... But wait, that also means you can't boot directly into another OS if you "shut down" via 8, you'd need to boot 8 back up, restart, then choose an OS.



    If you have any other OS including another install of 8 once you select the other option it has to restart.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from fm87


    How will this affect hardware upgrades?

    Since you aren't starting from a clean boot, hardware changes/driver changes are going to be a pain in the ass, no?

    Say I change the 8GB of RAM to 4GB due to a dead stick, and swap an AMD card for Nvidia. IIRC hibernate does not react well to hardware changes.


    I think both Nvidia and AMDs drivers restart Win8 in a clean boot I have had no issue with AMDs I think its a fair assumption Nvidia does this also.

    I will try swapping out my ram tomorrow see what happens.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from fm87

    Well........ That isn't entirely fair.

    Since 8's "shut down" is hibernate/S4 sleep, when you start it back up compared to waking 7 from hibernate the speed is about the same.

    From a clean boot/power cycle it will be a bit slower than a fresh 7 install.


    I always used hibernate on my laptop with 7 due to needing it for classes. It is faster at coming from sleep too.

    But ya I see your point.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from Gheart

    Must every post provide some deep insight to the topic at hand? Is that the only posts that matter? Seriously?

    I post I will not get Windows 8, because, believe it or not, I'm not going to get it. I don't feel the need to expand on it and so I did not.


    You could have said at least for x reason or something rather then say I am not getting it and leaving. This thread has been for discussion of why some of use dislike it or like it.
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    posted a message on Your computer successes
    When I was 6 I remember one of the older starwars games not playing right on the machine and my grandfather got rid of his computer and I salvaged the RAM out. Note at the time I did not know what ram was I just noticed they looked the same and my computer had open slots. The game was at least playable and I was so happy.

    The game still played like crap then a year or two later I eventually got a used Athlon 64 computer and got Nvidia fx I was so happy with the upgrade.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from Gheart

    I'll pass on Windows 8.


    Wow so much added to the discussion.

    Quote from CodofMC

    How much would my battery life probably be improved if I swapped out the HDD for an SSD? I've though about it and I won't be able to upgrade it now, but it's something for me to think about.


    Well most power consumption is the screen but I think having the SSD would help even if its a little power but over time it adds up.
    Once I get a SSD I will probably do a small test to fine out. I was thinking about this just the other day too.
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    posted a message on Alienware or Apple?
    Quote from Satharis

    So literally overpay for crap hardware just to replace it with Windows.

    Yeah that makes sense.


    Well based on the situation yes I dislike the osx UI. Apple over charges but Dells products are generally **** parts.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from CodofMC

    Is battery life improved with Windows 8 as well? I've got a netbook and I'm still trying to figure out how to best configure it for a long battery life with still decent performance.


    Well my video drivers had to be hacked to work with Win8 I know the new driver deal is supposed to allow improved battery life.
    But even with the hacked video drivers it seems to be a tiny bit better then 7 probably due to the less amount of background processes.
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    posted a message on Alienware or Apple?
    Apple machine load Windows on it problem solved.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from CodofMC

    Meh, it doesn't look like the performance is much better except for startup time. I've got an SSD so that won't really make a big difference for me. I'll wait to see how much better Piledriver performs between Windows 7 and Windows 8. If it's not a huge difference I think I'll pass on Windows 8.


    Well I was not really expecting anything amazing the start up times make a huge difference on my laptop.

    I think it will make a fair difference I think its the reason AMD delayed PD that and to get some better clocks.
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