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    posted a message on AMD Seemingly Looks To Sell Itself
    Quote from jakus12

    This was right after Nvidia released their 6xx series and AMD still had driver issues. You could still buy a 7xxx card but the 6xx cards were better at the time.


    No not even then AMD still held the low and mid end the larger part of the market.
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    posted a message on AMD Seemingly Looks To Sell Itself
    Quote from jakus12

    They are still reeling from the failure of BD and those couple of months were Nvidia was the way to go for GPU's, back when they slashed prices. Cheap powerful GPU's is great for consumers but it really shows how scared they are that the 7970 is $430. Also, the difference between Intel's budgets for R&D compared to AMD's is phenomenal. About 2.72 billion, to be precise. Just thought that would help you compare how big each company is compared to one another.


    You can not compare Intel vs AMD on R&D budget. Intel has to put money into its Fabs its compilers. When was this Nvidia has not held the GPU market flat out ever in recent years.
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    posted a message on AMD Seemingly Looks To Sell Itself
    AMD loses the x86 license if it sells so it won't happen unless they can strike a deal with Intel.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from WinCamXP

    Although, one question: x64 has been around in computers for ages. Even with these fancy new processors, how come the consoles aren't running x64? And if i remember correctly, x86 can only handle about 4GB of RAM. If that's the case, the remaining could be VRAM or a RAMdisk, or something similar...


    Having upgradeable consoles would ruin the main thing they have for them and that's a closed environment so everything can be optimized for the hardware.

    All of it is VRAM and Normal ram Kaveri has shared memory and a unified address space.

    x64 is a subset of x86.
    We use x86 to describe any CPU that has binary compatibility with the Intel 386/486 where the name came from.

    32bit can use more then 4GB of ram its an artificial limit in Windows.
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    posted a message on AMD A10 Trinity rig
    Quote from JoeDirt


    So I got on MC today again with the wither boss's and blazemen in the nether and spawned even more. The fan on my APU sounded like a wind tunnel, but the temp didn't much over 100 degrees F. When it's at idle though it cools it down to 32 F.


    Uh 32 where the hell is your computer?
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from JoseTheInfinite

    Erm....no, i was just expecting a decent performance boost from the last gen consoles.


    The current xbox 360 is capable of around 310 glfops CPU and GPU combined.
    The highend A10 Kaveri GPU AMD said would be capable of doing 1Tflop that's pure number crunching of the SIMD units modern GPUs have more texture units rops ect ect ect.

    The Steamroller CPU will be doing more then 140glfops on its on that's roughly what an A10 Trinity is capable of.
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    posted a message on AMD A10 Trinity rig
    Quote from Ankenmann2

    Good quality though?

    Cheapest ASRock FM2 I could find was $75.


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130662

    ?
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    posted a message on AMD A10 Trinity rig
    Quote from Ankenmann2

    Unfortunately Trinity motherboards are so expensive right now you could get a 3220 + 6850 for the same price.


    Uh you can pick up 50$ FM2 motherboards with all the features you would need. Find me a 50$ Intel motherboard with UEFI bios and can overclocked GPU and CPU and Memory and USB 3.0 and Sata 3.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from Ankenmann2

    Obviously.

    Not as good as I'd expect on the hardware side though.


    You say that fully optimized this thing is going to push better graphics then your PC.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from Ankenmann2

    They won't be cheap if they use APUs. The standard cheapo A10 MiniITX or MicroATX build costs around $500-525, and to add XDR2 memory or whatever will push the price way up. Then you have gimmicks like a Blu-ray drive.

    etc.


    They are custom A10s to start with and Microsoft often contracts foxxcon to make custom motherboards for them.
    Microsoft is not a consumer they get things from the source without middlemen driving up the costs.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from Ankenmann2

    I'd expect something like an 8850 or 7850 at least.


    And drive the price of the consoles up?

    The point of the consoles are cheap efficient gaming machines.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from JoseTheInfinite

    What i meant is that the graphics wont be as amazing as i once thought they were gonna be.


    What were you expecting two 8970?
    Consoles typically get a few cool new features we gotta wait for on PC but have low end GPUs.



    Also more proof of my custom APU statements.
    "Our semi-custom APUs already have a number of confidential high-volume design wins in place" Rory Read.

    This is also very good news for AMD they have hardware in all 3 consoles this generation.

    This also will mean amazing PC ports if you are running AMD hardware.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Quote from SeaWry

    NOT TRUE

    When games are developed for console, they are mainstream. Because its the same hardware, unlike PC/Mac in which the hardware varies so they must adjust to be able to work on almost all hardware.

    However PC/Macs also has other things going in background. So they need much more processing power then a console, which does only 1 thing and purpose.

    It is possible to do this on a all in one chip.


    It also worth mentioning this is probably a custom A10 it might have a beefier GPU then its PC counterparts an its probably kaveri based and using custom ram like Xdr2 to push the APU faster and if not that it will probably be highspeed DDR4.

    Kaveri is supposed to bring GPU memory and CPU memory all into one memory space so highspeed onboard RAM like XDR2 could basically give the PS4 VRAM.

    AMD said the Kaveri A10 will be capable of 1TFLOPS and all the games could use HSA making programming for the console very easy.
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    posted a message on Windows 8
    Quote from Galaxy_Class

    Also, downloading Pro now, will talk later tomorrow (2-3 hours for download, optional 1 hour for updates, rest for testing).

    Also can you change the looks of Metro. Kinda like what Xaanos did (first page).


    All I really did was move some shortcuts around and change the colors something every modern Windows version has let you do.
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    posted a message on PlayStation 4 devkits sport AMD A10 APU, would run games at 1080p at 60fps
    Called it so called it.

    Anyway the end result will probably be a kaveri APU if they want to do 1080p at 60fps with modern games with decent quality.
    It will probably have high speed XDR2 ram to be able to feed the APU.
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