One thing that does bother me though; irl nuclear reactors only produce heat, which is then used to heat water to crest steam to run a turbine to run a generator. It might be interesting to set something like this up.
Well, I tired seeting up like the image a few pages back, with the essentia provider on the top directly on the thaumatorium, and yes, I have a buffer chest in front with an import bus. When I smack the provider it says suction, but nothing goes into the thaumatorium.
Hmmm have you used the thaumatorium beforehand? Sometimes a little bit of essentia gets stuck somewhere (I'm not really sure where, because you can't see it with the goggles), and you have to attach an empty jar (or a jar with the correct essentia type, but since you can't see it, it's easier to stick with the empty) to clear it out before it works again. This seems to be somewhat new, I don't recall this happening in previous versions...
Other than that... idk, I assume you've checked that you have the essentia, that it's all actually connected and such. You've clicked the recipe so that the blue circle light's up?
I have looked through this thread over and over...can anyone make a video showing how to set up the essentia provider to the thaumatorium as you call it so that it works...Been messing around with it for days in several configurations and when I smack it with the essentia resonator it shows suction, but nothing is going into the actual automated system...
What I always do it slap the provider directly on the thaumatorium, usually the top in the back, with an ME interface (part form, not block) and then surround the sides and top with mnemonic... er... things. It should be working with pipes now though...
You aren't by any chance importing directly from the thaumatorium are you? Because you need a buffer chest in between...
Now that you mention it, I mostly use the keyboard for NEI as well. My non-magical terminal, though, has a 'search box mode' button, and one of the options is 'NEI synchronized auto', which will auto-caputure the cursor and search both the inventory and NEI from typing in the terminal. It might be from an NEI addon, though; the pack I'm using (Direwofl20 1.7.10.. he should totally add this to it!) has several, so I'm not sure if that's there in vanilla AE2. If you could add that button (or even just the dual-search feature) to yours, it might smooth things out nicely.
As for the multi-item thing, I had some idea that it might be linked to damage values; wool uses damage values, right? Maybe honeycomb does, too? Perhaps simply ignoring damage values for some items would help? I have very limited coding experience, so I don't know if that's doable, or even close to right... I guess the ore dictionary is more likely.
Thanks for your hard work, I'm enjoying the mod very much! I'll probably enjoy it even more after I build more things, and I'm eagerly awaiting shift-click [?] being added to the thaumcraft NEI addon.
I need to build a thaumatorium, (the automated alchemy thingy) once I get some essentia generation going; it will be fun trying to plug that into my AE system, I think. I'm still learning AE2, but it seems extremely flexible.
On the other hand, for the multi-item thing, I get really annoyed when I shift-click the product and realize that I've just used all my silverwood making sticks. Might be nice to keep this terminal safe from that kind of mistake...
It was intended, I navigate NEI only using the keyboard and found it cumbersome to have to tab out of my own search bar every time I opened the terminal. But I may be one of the rare keyboard-only breed, what do you guys think would be better?
It is not, when the [?] is shift-clicked NEI sends me a list of ingredients, and I use that list to look up and pull out items on the ME network. I have no idea how Algo does the multi-item thing, but I suspect it has something to do with the ore dictionary. I'll make a feature request for this.
I personally prefer to have it automatically type in the search box. Maybe a config option would be good if that's possible.
I wouldn't want to leave it to luck to find a hungry node to be able to build the reactor, so I offer the singularity as an alternative. What I could do, for the multiblock reactor, is have it first turn the singularity into a hungry node by some process. Give it power, essentia, and vis, and it converts the singularity into the node. Where if you already had the hungry node in a jar, it would just need to release the node once activated.
See, this is why you're the brilliant mod maker, and I just happily consume.
I like most the idea's given for power generation, so I will start the planning phase for it. I plan to have it teired, starting with the very manual Thaumium Gearbox, and ending with a reactor/reaction-chamber of some kind.
My thoughts so far, in no particular order.
An enhancement to the Vibration Chamber.
Small internal power buffer.
Enhanced burn time.
Auto-replenish option. Would pull the set item from the networks storage to burn it.
When linked with a V.R.I and supplied with a small amount of Ordo vis, can completely stop the reaction when power is not needed.
Built in hysteresis so that it doesn't come on and go off rapidly.
Essentia Reactor #1
Combines primal essentia types to produce a reaction to produce power.
Requires a strong internal gravitation field, Quantum singularity or Hungry node in a jar, placed via GUI.
Reaction power enhanced by Aer vis, burn time reduced by Ignis vis.
Alumentum Compression Reactor
Converts large amounts of alumentum(possibly alumentum blocks) into power by extream compression.
Requires a strong internal gravitation field, Quantum singularity or Hungry node in a jar, placed via GUI.
Large internal power buffer.
Reaction power enhanced by Ignis vis.
Vis Generator
Converts any incoming vis type into power.
Weak, but continuous power generation.
Arcane Reactor, building on Tsuarok's idea.
Infuses potentia essentia with all vis types, burns it with solid fuel, produces power.
Multiblock.
Reaction managed by a Runic Matrix.
Requires 'Shield Nodes' in the multiblock structure, uses Runic shielding to contain the reaction.
Massive Internal buffer.
Pull's potentia essentia directly from ME network.
Will consume all vis and potentia essentia it can to increase reaction rate.
Goes into a cooldown period once internal buffer is filled.
Automatically comes out of cooldown when the internal buffer reaches a % threshold.
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What, no hamster wheel?!
Love the ideas, especially the use of a hungry node. Though having it be hungry node or singularity will likely lead to predominantly singularity use, since it requires only a little while running a cobblestone generator using an annihilation plane to get one, while getting a hungry node can be quite challenging (even finding one is tough).
I'd like to see a released hungry node in the multiblock reactor too. Because hungry nodes are awesome. And it helps justify the runic shielding.
I didn't think you could make this mod even more awesome; I was wrong.
Oh, since we have certus quartz doubling, have you considered doing nether quartz too?
So far I haven't been able to reproduce this. Do you play single player or server? Does restarting MC fix it?
The problem persisted for about 2 days, and then vanished... no idea what was going on, but I can't get it to happen again. I may have updated a different mod in that period, so something else may have caused it.
Or maybe some sort of modular multiblock reactor that burns alumentum to heat essentia energized by CV would be pretty amazing. Sort of bringing it all together and making it scalable to fit the needs and budgets of a variety of playstyles.
You could have a small starting furnace that burns whatever for 10AE/t, alumentum for 20(?) AE/t. Then, once alchemy stuff is unlocked, a block that improves efficiency(slowing the burn time with same energy output) using essentia, and another using CV when that is unlocked, that might increase output at the expense of burn time. They could be modular in the multiblock, so that you could balance efficiency and output to suit your needs.
So, say, 4 of the alumentum modules would simply burn through 4x the alumentum and produce 4x power. Adding the essentia system would slow the burn rate, so that you go through less alumentum (important if the furnace only stores one stack, though I suppose you could have it store more), while CV modules would vastly increase output, but also burn rate.
PLEASE add a magical/TC way of generating power for an AE system! This is the one thing that I can't get figured out for a low tech-high magic world. I know AE isn't "low" tech but it really is just a storage mod...not a crazy OP machine mod like all the other tech mods.
Anyone else immediately picture giant hamster wheels full of golems?
@Nividica:
I'm not sure if anyone else experiences this, but since updating to 0.8.2b, the ACT has had a graphical bug in which the output doesn't update until you pull the first item out of it. For example, when making nether quartz blocks, I put the items in the grid, and the output remains blank. The item crafts up just fine, I just have to click the blank space and the nether quartz appears. Then I made arcane stone bricks, and the output stayed as nether quartz blocks until I grabbed the first one. Certainly not game breaking, though a bit confusing at first.
Also, just a thought about power, isn't alumentum basically considered the magical power supply? I have 40ish AE generators running on the stuff. If you do add a power system, I think it would be a good idea to continue with alumentum, with maybe perditio, ordo, and ignis CV increasing maximum power (because, like I said, I have 40 AE generators, and I don't even have a singularity up and running, which would require 20 more I think). I don't mind if it's expensive, but if I didn't have ender storage installed, feeding all of those things would be a nightmare.
Version 0.8.0b is coming along and I am almost read to start final testing. Wanted to let you all know some of the major highlights.
Alchemical Duplication now applies to Certus Quartz Crystal, with config option to disable.
Cranking(grinder, charger) now has a way to be automated.
AE2 Items can be scanned with the Thaumometer.
E-Cells can be partitioned and now hold 12 types instead of 8.
and more...
I will try to push out the update this weekend if I can wrap everything up.
Also, if anyone wants to test the bleeding-edge code, you can compile from the github source, or PM me and let me know you would like nightly builds. I would greatly appreciate some testers, specifically server testers, just throw me a PM and let me know if your interested.
Seriously excited about the stuff coming down the pipeline, you're doing some amazing work here.
Something that I noticed was that the acceleration card fits into the essentia export bus, but seems to have no effect on the transfer rate. Not to big a deal, but I thought you might want to know.
Also, I don't know if you've seen it, but DjGiannuzz has released an NEI addon for thaumcraft. One of the features is that only unlocked recipes appear, which sort of made me think about your previous comments about an arcane assembler. Maybe something in that code might inspire a solution? Just a thought.
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Loving the mod so far!
One thing that does bother me though; irl nuclear reactors only produce heat, which is then used to heat water to crest steam to run a turbine to run a generator. It might be interesting to set something like this up.
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Stonebound currently stacks with itself, so that, for example, a pure ardite hammer gains a stonebound bonus for each ardite part.
Stonebound is only calculated by durability, so adding an RF source on a low durability tool does not affect the bonus.
I was told that these were bugs, and that they were being removed soon.
So, can anyone with authority tell me if these are features or bugs?
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Hmmm have you used the thaumatorium beforehand? Sometimes a little bit of essentia gets stuck somewhere (I'm not really sure where, because you can't see it with the goggles), and you have to attach an empty jar (or a jar with the correct essentia type, but since you can't see it, it's easier to stick with the empty) to clear it out before it works again. This seems to be somewhat new, I don't recall this happening in previous versions...
Other than that... idk, I assume you've checked that you have the essentia, that it's all actually connected and such. You've clicked the recipe so that the blue circle light's up?
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What I always do it slap the provider directly on the thaumatorium, usually the top in the back, with an ME interface (part form, not block) and then surround the sides and top with mnemonic... er... things. It should be working with pipes now though...
You aren't by any chance importing directly from the thaumatorium are you? Because you need a buffer chest in between...
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Edit: Also, does it connect though blocks? Or will I need to maintain an air space?
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On the other hand, for the multi-item thing, I get really annoyed when I shift-click the product and realize that I've just used all my silverwood making sticks. Might be nice to keep this terminal safe from that kind of mistake...
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I personally prefer to have it automatically type in the search box. Maybe a config option would be good if that's possible.
Ah, cool, glad you were able to find the issue.
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See, this is why you're the brilliant mod maker, and I just happily consume.
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What, no hamster wheel?!
Love the ideas, especially the use of a hungry node. Though having it be hungry node or singularity will likely lead to predominantly singularity use, since it requires only a little while running a cobblestone generator using an annihilation plane to get one, while getting a hungry node can be quite challenging (even finding one is tough).
I'd like to see a released hungry node in the multiblock reactor too. Because hungry nodes are awesome. And it helps justify the runic shielding.
I didn't think you could make this mod even more awesome; I was wrong.
Oh, since we have certus quartz doubling, have you considered doing nether quartz too?
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The problem persisted for about 2 days, and then vanished... no idea what was going on, but I can't get it to happen again. I may have updated a different mod in that period, so something else may have caused it.
*shrug*
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You could have a small starting furnace that burns whatever for 10AE/t, alumentum for 20(?) AE/t. Then, once alchemy stuff is unlocked, a block that improves efficiency(slowing the burn time with same energy output) using essentia, and another using CV when that is unlocked, that might increase output at the expense of burn time. They could be modular in the multiblock, so that you could balance efficiency and output to suit your needs.
So, say, 4 of the alumentum modules would simply burn through 4x the alumentum and produce 4x power. Adding the essentia system would slow the burn rate, so that you go through less alumentum (important if the furnace only stores one stack, though I suppose you could have it store more), while CV modules would vastly increase output, but also burn rate.
Or something.
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Anyone else immediately picture giant hamster wheels full of golems?
@Nividica:
I'm not sure if anyone else experiences this, but since updating to 0.8.2b, the ACT has had a graphical bug in which the output doesn't update until you pull the first item out of it. For example, when making nether quartz blocks, I put the items in the grid, and the output remains blank. The item crafts up just fine, I just have to click the blank space and the nether quartz appears. Then I made arcane stone bricks, and the output stayed as nether quartz blocks until I grabbed the first one. Certainly not game breaking, though a bit confusing at first.
Also, just a thought about power, isn't alumentum basically considered the magical power supply? I have 40ish AE generators running on the stuff. If you do add a power system, I think it would be a good idea to continue with alumentum, with maybe perditio, ordo, and ignis CV increasing maximum power (because, like I said, I have 40 AE generators, and I don't even have a singularity up and running, which would require 20 more I think). I don't mind if it's expensive, but if I didn't have ender storage installed, feeding all of those things would be a nightmare.
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Seriously excited about the stuff coming down the pipeline, you're doing some amazing work here.
Something that I noticed was that the acceleration card fits into the essentia export bus, but seems to have no effect on the transfer rate. Not to big a deal, but I thought you might want to know.
Also, I don't know if you've seen it, but DjGiannuzz has released an NEI addon for thaumcraft. One of the features is that only unlocked recipes appear, which sort of made me think about your previous comments about an arcane assembler. Maybe something in that code might inspire a solution? Just a thought.
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