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Hey sp614x, would there be a way to make an option to disable the little targetting crosshair in Minecraft? I'd love to see that option.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from bence643

this mod seems to be not compleetly compatible with the aether mod for some reason if i have the lsod and optimite with it i cant create aether portals please fix? or im just dumb and i did something wrong

They're compatible. I, along with others, am running both together. No problems creating Aether Portals etc.


~ iiiHuman ~

Okay, apparently most people don't know that they can use OptiFog+Optimine instead of the standard basic HD Patcher everyone uses. And, that it gives performance boosts and allows additional tweaking functions. So, I have suggestions.

I think a lot of confusion comes from (1) the names of these mods, and (2) the separate Optimine and single OptiFog+Optimine (since I believe there's no separate OptiFog by itself).

I believe most people see "OptiFog" and only think it's just another mod for adjusting fog effects and that's it. "Optimine" doesn't really seem to say much either but sort of looks like it's some kind of mining mod or a mod that gives new mining tools etc.

I really think that both need to be kept wrapped up together and not use separate names.

However, that leads to a question of what you would call the one package. Originally, I was thinking of trying to stay along the same lines of what is currently in use. So, I was originally thinking something like Opticraft. However, that still doesn't seem to really solve the problem and also sort of makes it sound like it's another crafting mod. So, what to do? Well, I think the word "tweak" sums up the mod(s) a lot better. So, my current suggestion is "Minecraft Tweaker." You don't have to go with some shorter version where something gets lost in the translation. Sure, you could possibly try something like "Minetweak" or even "Minetweaker" but I do feel the nature of the mod would still tend to get lost a little bit.

If it were changed to "Minecraft Tweaker" (or something close/similar), I am sure a LOT more people would be using this mod. In fact, I feel pretty confident that most people would probably drop using the HD Patcher instead at all really.

That leads me to the final thing I wanted to talk about. There is a note in the original post of this thread that explains how to get the mod(s) to work if someone still needs to use the HD Patcher. I don't get why someone would still need the HD Patcher since "Minecraft Tweaker" (aka, OptiFog+Optimine) does everything it does and also adds performance boosts and additional tweaking features.

Just some thoughts I had and wanted to share.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from kelbin1

Why would you update this to 1.7? notch added pistons. this mod is now useless, but thanks for giving him the idea to add them

I somehow continue to be amazed by the idiotic closed-minded comments like the above. I can almost understand some of them based on that the people making those type of comments obviously haven't tried the pistons from the mod before they were added to the game itself. Yet, those same people aren't even reading the many other comments explaining over and over again why there is an update or this mod is continuing. Of course, it shouldn't even need to be explained again each time in the first place.

Again, ...

The "official" pistons (added to the game itself) changed some things from the "original" pistons (from the Pistons Mod). Some people may or may not like some or all of the changes. For example, official pistons don't launch entities like TNT like the Pistons Mod allowed/allows. The new "patch" update of this mod restores that ability.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from BlacKnight339

No. I heard someone mention them porting it to multiplayer, but I don't remember where it was.

For those of you that were looking for the information someone had posted about having made a multiplayer version of this mod, here was that info:

Quote from chicken_bones

Well here it is.

SMP piston mod for 1.6.6.Client:place in mods folder.

Requires Modloader AND ModloaderMp

http://www.mediafire.com/?4ely7lphrf30ald

Server:insert into server using winrar.

DO NOT DELETE META-INF FOLDER

Requires ModloaderMp server

http://www.mediafire.com/?9js5a9cs2hh5ecw

Quote from chicken_bones

Really. I posted it a few pages ago and no-one has seen. People still ask. There was one bug which I have since fixed and play quite happily on my lan server. Entity Pushing, Tile-Entity Pushing, the works and sticky pistons will still push you to the regular height if you are not standing directly on the sticky part. I will post it again with the bugfix but only if anyone cares, doesn't have rails pushed again. Should be a simple matter to add the code though but only if anyone cares.Thanks for listening to my ramble.

I do not know if the links he provided still work but I would suspect that those links are to a previous version before he implemented the bug fixes he also spoke of after he posted those original links. I don't believe he re-posted the links for the updated version.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from deadlytown

mod_Floodgate=on

got the latest modloader. updated java and reinstalled modloader and piston mod.
Embed Removed the crash problem.

Okay, I know the Floodgate Mod has conflicting Block IDs by default. I'm not sure about the others for which you have a lot of. Someone else may know.

Here's the quickest way to figure out if there are any other conflicts:

1. Start with a fresh installation of Minecraft (no mods).
2. Install the basic stuff like Modloader and using the MCPatcher for Texture Packs.
3. Then, install the Pistons Mod and only that mod.
4. Try the lever thing again and see if it crashes. If it does, there should still be a "Modloader.txt" file that you can show the code of here. If it does not crash, install another mod (one at a time) and test the lever thing each time after installing another mod. If it crashes, there is a conflict with that mod and the Pistons Mod.

There are instructions in the original post of this thread for modifying a "Pistondv" properties file to help resolve Block ID conflicts. But, you have to make sure that the new values you enter are not being taken by another one of the mods.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from Kriptini

What does "Pistons can push rails" mean, exactly? When I push a block with a rail on it, the rail is deleted. Is there a way I can push a block with a rail on it without destroying the rail?

Like everything else, rails are their own block. Yes, mine carts and players and creatures can take up the same space of the rail block but this is because they allow certain items to go through that block. Other than that simple explanation, let's not go there.

Just as if you pushed a block out from underneath another block, the top block doesn't move. In this case, the rail has nothing underneath it and it can't have that. But, you can move the rail block itself by pushing/pulling the rail itself instead. As long as there will still be a block underneath the rail, the rail will continue to be there. Note, though, that this only works when pushing/pulling rails to and from the sides. It will not work if you try to push a block (the block underneath it) up nor the block (from above the rail) down.

In short, just push/pull the rail itself from the sides--not the block underneath it.


~ iiiHuman ~

Quote from sp614x

Preview OptiFine_HD_G

OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_G (Classic): Download
OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_S_G (Smooth): Download
OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_MT_G (MultiThreaded): Download

The versions:
- HD_G - standard OptiFine
- HD_S_G - OptiFine Smooth, replaces MTL, smooth chunk updates
- HD_MT_G - OptiFine Multithreaded, can use second CPU core

What is new:
- Fixed handheld item rendering for HD textures, also works in third person view and multiplayer
- Fixed dynamic fire texture
- Added Zoom - press 'C' to test, very useful on FarView
- Added Smooth Input - fixes unresponsiveness, stuck keys and delayed or repeating sounds.
- Reorganized settings

OptiFine Smooth replaces Multithreaded Light (MTL) which was having too many problems and most importantly was not compatible with mods which do custom rendering with texture switches. It should also be much more stable.

OptiFine Smooth works by splitting the complex chunks in pieces and then traditionally loads them on the rendering thread. By deciding how many pieces are to be loaded per frame it is able to distribute one complex chunk on several frames or load many simple chunks in one frame.

Please test and report back.

Ohh yesss. That item rendering fix is the best ever. Even if you use OptiFine only for the HD textures, it makes it 100% better than MCPatcher, because as far as I know it still has that bug.

Also fire looks fine now, so that's good.

Quote from Ninjaboy00

I do not know why so many people love this when it's incompatible if so many other mods that actually make the game better. I've got more than 22 mods installed for a reason: they make the game even more epic. reason for this mod being incompatible with many others: it modifies original class files that other mods do, I don't even see why this would ABSOLUTELY need to modify original class files. If the creator reads this try to make the mod compatible with others

• You understand that other mods need to edit original classes.
• You don't understand why this one does.

Think about this for a moment. Now consider that OptiFine changes many of the core rendering functions of minecraft, and try to imagine how complex this is. You don't appear to know Java, so ponder whether or not you should be commenting on what you think needs to be modified. Take into consideration that sp614x is constantly working on improving compatibility, going so far as to work with other projects such as Mincraft Forge, so as to reduce the small list of incompatible mods. Finally, as explained in the OP, this is a mod for optimization, therefore it should be fairly easy to understand that people love the mod because it speeds up the game, often from an otherwise unplayable state.

Please act with more civility, intelligence, and respect in the future. For extra credit, chew on the thought that other people don't care for game-changing mods. Contemplate this dissonance in other matters as well.

sp614x: Thanks for the new version! I've thrown another fiver at the donation button. Hopefully you're getting plenty of people chipping in.

Preview OptiFine_HD_G

OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_G (Classic): Download
OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_S_G (Smooth): Download
OptiFine_1.7.3_HD_MT_G (MultiThreaded): Download

The versions:
- HD_G - standard OptiFine
- HD_S_G - OptiFine Smooth, replaces MTL, smooth chunk updates
- HD_MT_G - OptiFine Multithreaded, can use second CPU core

What is new:
- Fixed handheld item rendering for HD textures, also works in third person view and multiplayer
- Fixed dynamic fire texture
- Added Zoom - press 'C' to test, very useful on FarView
- Added Smooth Input - fixes unresponsiveness, stuck keys and delayed or repeating sounds.
- Reorganized settings

OptiFine Smooth replaces Multithreaded Light (MTL) which was having too many problems and most importantly was not compatible with mods which do custom rendering with texture switches. It should also be much more stable.

OptiFine Smooth works by splitting the complex chunks in pieces and then traditionally loads them on the rendering thread. By deciding how many pieces are to be loaded per frame it is able to distribute one complex chunk on several frames or load many simple chunks in one frame.

Please test and report back.

TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN USING THE NEW VERSION AND HAS BEEN CRASHING


The new version (version f) only crashes when you have the water set to FAST. you can have the graphics set to FAST if you go into the details menu under video settings under settings and set water to FANCY, not DEFAULT. After you do the previous step, you can change the video settings from fast to fancy in the normal settings menu. The water won't be set to fast, but it will work (the graphics for the water don't really change the fps amount).

Hey guys. Just found an interesting development. I thought I would let you guys know about. I'll just copy and paste my post from the Equivalent Exchange post that I made.

To precursor my post, I was having issues with Dark Matter tools (from Equivalent Exchange) showing up as buggy items in my hands. Thus the reason I posted there first. It was showing me holding a feather, or bone, or a painting instead of an actual tool. However, the tools would still work. Below is what I found:

I took your advice, mDiyo. And found some very interesting results. Here's what I did:

1) deleted my minecraft folder and patched a fresh install.
2) Re-downloaded and installed, in order, these mods:
a) Modloader (deleting META-INF)
:cool.gif: Audio Mod
c) Optifine_F
d) item sprite v1.2
e) Equivalent Exchange

I then tested several texture packs (Infinite Dreams, Foliacraft, QuantumCraft, Forgotten Lands, Chaos Craft, Doku (high, dark and light), and LB Photo.

I immediately noticed that ONLY the HD texture packs were causing funky glitches with the dark matter tools (looking like I'm holding feathers, bones, paintings, etc. instead of the actual item).

So I then went back and retested the install with MC patcher instead of Optifine. And guess what? All the HD texture packs were no longer glitched! I was actually holding the dark matter tools.

So I then took it one step further, since I'm the curious type. On the post for Optifine, it says that if you must install MCpatcher AND Optifine, to delete the ji.class before installing Optifine. Guess what? You guessed it....the items worked fine!

So evidentally, at least on my machine, the ji.class file from Optifine is acting whacky with the dark matter tools from Equivalent Exchange. All very odd!

For those who are using HD texture packs and are having trouble with purple textures, you need to use the latest HD patcher (2.1.0_01) from this thread. Patch Minecraft using that patcher, and it should fix the purple-texture issue. Also be sure that if you put the mod directly into the JAR, you included the piston.png and spiston.png files.

Also, protip to get HD pistons: Copy the iron block texture from your texture pack into an appropriately-sized image named piston.png and the gold block texture into an appropriately-sized image named spiston.png, then put them into your Minecraft JAR.

If you don't use HD texture packs, then something else I don't understand is going on.

OK... ugh...

I can't figure out how to get MCP to work. I've used it before, but... eh...

run_client works fine, and the mod works, and the new features work, and there are no bugs, etc. I run reobfuscate, that works, install pistons in normal Minecraft. Here's where it gets weird.

I go into a world that has pistons in it already, and they render fine, so obviously the mod is loading correctly. I can destroy the pistons and they show up in my inventory. However, when I place a piston or power an existing one the game crashes. No error report appears on the screen, or anywhere else I can find.

It seems likely that something weird has happened (like MCP isn't obfuscating certain files properly). Has anyone else had problems with MCP 4.0? Is there something dumb going on?

I can't update pistons until this is fixed.