Quote from awweaver
I hate the new stuff that isn't adding anything to the gameplay value i.e. Bats and Fireworks....
Quote from Random_Guy_32
Let me formulate it this way: Your comment was: FOR GOD SAKE MOJANG! STOP WITH THESE UPDATES! IT'S GETTING STUPID NOW! If this post is the first thing you hear from someone you don't know most people are likely to assume the poster is just a little troll who likes to b*tch about things he doesn't like for some reason. You simply don't except that this person actually knows anything about the topic because all he does is writing that he finds something stupid without any reason given and in capital letters only. You didn't give a reason why you think it's getting stupid. You just threw a random rage-post into the room and that's it. Don't expect anyone taking you seriously when you are writing this kind of posts.
Also, just to point it out, the age says nothing about whether or not somebody knows something about something. I know a whole crapload about flags for example. Tell me how much YOU know about flags you wise, old man. I can also tell you quite a few things about how black holes are formed despite being only 14. At this point I could insert a "Your opinion is wrong, that's a fact"-meme but I rather would like to hear your answer. I'm always willing to have an intelligent, mature discussion with you by the way.
Quote from FnordianLoopRespawn
Apology accepted. See, we can work together after all
You might be surprised there, the number you are citing is gross (meaning before expenses) and a total of sales to date, That does not mean there is that amount liquid (spendable) on an in house testing team, After expenses many companies actually profit much less than is commonly assumed by those who do not know how business works ( I make no assumptions on your education, a lot of this is college level Business Administration and Accounting).
Now I will say this as a coder myself: Yes the rapid releases of sequential Release Candidates does make Modding challenging. This is true of any codebase one is working from... However a well structured Mod will require very little alteration to be made to work from the newer version, in many cases a re-compile to match the new obfuscation is all that may be needed.
In this latter case it's actually the MCP folks , who by nature of what they do are volunteer and unpaid, who need to keep on top of things.
Quote from Random_Guy_32
Well, since the first of your posts I read on this thread was "FOR GOD SAKE MOJANG! STOP WITH THESE UPDATES! IT'S GETTING STUPID NOW!" I have a good reason to claim you don't know what you are talking about.
Quote from FnordianLoopRespawn
You made my point, none of those were 'official' updates and what I said (you can re-read it if you like) was "no less than 3". What Mojang is doing here is known as "Crowd Testing" it's fairly common in companies which, unlike say Valve, do not have the man power to dedicate to an inhouse testing team. Now personally I think calling them Pre-releases is a nomenclature mistake on Mojangs part (perhaps a translation issue?) These really should, by industry standards, be called Release Candidates.
As for "and, for each one, there was going to be a full game update", there wasn't one. Now had their in fact been then I would fully agree with you.
Quote from reptile311
First: Stop demanding new features, because every new feature leads to new errors.
Second: The pre-releases are for testing minecraft for new errors. Don't update.
Third: Mojang releases minecraft, not mods. It is your problem and the problem of the modders. If you don't like the game out of the box, don't play it.
My personal opinion is, they should do no pre-releases. they should do snapshots. Also they should not add new features, they should fix bugs, rewrite the render engine and implement the api and then release a new minecraft.
Quote from FnordianLoopRespawn
I for one welcome our updating overlords...
on a more serious note...
This isn't an update it's a pre-release,it is therefore optional. (perhaps calling it a Release Candidate would be less confusing?)
Yes, Mojang has been putting these out very very quickly since Mojira went live, this is a good thing, it lets those of a mind to do so to test the new version and report on new or less than optimally fixed bugs.
For those concerned that this unfinished work (some bugs are still with us) will be forced upon us on Thursday, recall that after 1.4 no less than 3 such pre-releases were cycled before the 1.44 Update... so what we see here is probably not what we'll be getting with the next Update.
Quote from xXiNightXx
How does it hurt mod developers? Its not a official release. These are "optional downloads". They are not forcing you to update. I personally think its better this way so that people can find the different bugs rather than a update come out that has missed bugs that the developers did not find on their own time. :/
Quote from Someguyfromcrowd
I was not aware that Jeb comes to your house, puts a pistol to your head, and forces you to download the update.
If you must keep playing with your mods, don't update. If the servers you're playing on update, update with them.
Quote from CRaFT4ik
Around me full of wolves and ocelots. This must be a mistake.
P.S. This description is for version 1.4.2
Quote from jlp1528
You said you didn't know how you got that rank. Now you say you know it was from that book. Which is it?
Quote from jlp1528
Oops. Almost forgot. Everyone should definitely check out Minecraft Land Generator, Minecraft Overviewer, and Minecraft Xray. Those programs are for terrain pregeneration, world mapping, and easy location of whatever blocks you'd like to locate, respectively. I'm getting tired though so I'm not going to bother posting links. Seriously, that's what Google is for. Plus they're going to update anyway, so why bother? They're not all extremely easy to work with, but they are very well-made, and they have plenty of options, functions, and benefits. Try them. You'll like them. Why wouldn't you? As always, remember to give credit where credit is due. And, as always, keep on Minecraftin'! Bye for now guys.
Quote from jlp1528
It's from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." Look it up. 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.
Quote from Stormandreas
Yea, the Meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything... I don't know HOW the hell I got that!
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I am Stormandreas, and I'm here to alert you to a new Lets Play series of Minecraft a good friend of mine and myself started up.
It will all be under the title, Storm Plays Minecraft W/Sucine, and will feature both me, Stormandreas, and Sucine, as we make our way to build an amazing fort filled with traps and puzzles, and fight our way to the End and slay the Enderdragon.
It is sure to be filled with many unexpected moments, laughs and hardships, so stay tuned!
Here is the first episode!
And my channel here:
http://www.youtube.c...er/Stormandreas
~Storm
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I am part of a youtube group called MVFilms. We are currently small and working on playthrough videos etc.
This topic here, is basicly to ask around if anyone knows of any large game changing mods. One we have on our list right now is Pixelmons.
If anyone knows of any mods similar or bigger than Pixelmons we could include/do a seperate series with, please let me know!
Cheers!
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However, i'm finding the gusty wind at y:100 annoying in my server (as some of the creations are quite high). Is there a way of increasing the height it detects the gusty wind at? like say, 150?
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Also those saying modloader isn't used, you're wrong. there are a lot of people who still use it, because its a million times simpler to use than forge mods.
I myself have had forge crash and destroy my worlds many times, where modloader has done absolutely nothing wrong to my game/worlds.
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Not another damned update for 1.4. It was a halloween update, and it's STILL being worked on at Christmas... come on, do some proper testing mojang!
if it wern't for those things, the game just wouldn't be the same.
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Modloader doesn't need Forge, and Rei's minimap doesn't need Forge OR Modloader.
He's installed something in the wrong place, or there are some old mod folders somewhere.
I say, get a clean .jar, and install Rei's minimap ONLY (if thats all your wanting)
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I remember in 1.2.5 i think it was, all you had to do was replace the original sounds with the new ones in their respective folders, but that doesn't seem the case now, and it's annoying as none of my sounds have appeared yet.
I installed it into both the .jar and the mods folder (this has never caused problems before), and still nothing.
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I just tried it, installing Player API AFTER Forge, and Smart Moving for Modloader after that.
This is what happened when I try to load a world:
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// This is a token for 1 free hug. Redeem at your nearest Mojangsta: [~~HUG~~]
Time: 22/11/12 08:30
Description: Exception in server tick loop
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: iq.getServerPlayerBase(Ljava/lang/String;)LServerPlayerBase;
at net.smart.moving.playerapi.SmartMovingServerPlayerBase.getPlayerBase(SmartMovingServerPlayerBase.java:19)
at net.smart.moving.playerapi.SmartMoving.getServerPlayerBase(SmartMoving.java:26)
at mod_SmartMoving.serverCustomPayload(mod_SmartMoving.java:125)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderPacketHandler.onPacketData(ModLoaderPacketHandler.java:24)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.network.NetworkRegistry.handlePacket(NetworkRegistry.java:249)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.network.NetworkRegistry.handleCustomPacket(NetworkRegistry.java:239)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.network.FMLNetworkHandler.handlePacket250Packet(FMLNetworkHandler.java:78)
at iv.a(NetServerHandler.java:1054)
at dj.a(SourceFile:59)
at cf.b(MemoryConnection.java:79)
at iv.d(NetServerHandler.java:82)
at iw.b(NetworkListenThread.java:55)
at bdr.b(IntegratedServerListenThread.java:111)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.r(MinecraftServer.java:691)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.q(MinecraftServer.java:587)
at bdo.q(IntegratedServer.java:110)
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:494)
at fy.run(SourceFile:856)
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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-- System Details --
Details:
Minecraft Version: 1.4.5
Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1
Java Version: 1.7.0_09, Oracle Corporation
Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
Memory: 295502584 bytes (281 MB) / 519110656 bytes (495 MB) up to 1037959168 bytes (989 MB)
JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
AABB Pool Size: 8138 (455728 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 7783 (435848 bytes; 0 MB) used
Suspicious classes: FML and Forge are installed
IntCache: cache: 0, tcache: 0, allocated: 0, tallocated: 0
FML: MCP v7.23 FML v4.5.2.459 Minecraft Forge 6.4.0.395 6 mods loaded, 6 mods active
mcp [Minecraft Coder Pack] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
FML [Forge Mod Loader] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
Forge [Minecraft Forge] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
IronChest [Iron Chest] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
mod_SmartRender [Smart Render] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
mod_SmartMoving [Smart Moving] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
Profiler Position: N/A (disabled)
Vec3 Pool Size: 1216 (68096 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 868 (48608 bytes; 0 MB) used
Player Count: 1 / 8; [iq['Stormandreas'/269, l='Create', x=1185.20, y=4.00, z=2291.81]]
Type: Integrated Server (map_client.txt)
Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'forge,fml'
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Oh right ok. That isn't an option I don't think. That certainly does sound handy though
It is compatible. Make sure you instal modloader 1.4.5, Player API 1.4.4 Client, and Smart Moving for Modloader Client 1.4.4. I installed it yesterday, and it works like a charm!
There is one version that doesn't need modloader, however, be careful when installing other mods, as it does change some core .class files. the safeset bet is to use forge or modloader for it.
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Ok fair enough. didn't know forge did that. I've just experienced tons of crashes and bugs with forge, so i'm never keen to use it.
Worst thing i think about forge is to use it for a server, everyone who goes on the server must have forge too. Can be pretty irritating when the people don't know how to install mods.
Is there any way around that though?
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I've not seen a lot of mods moving to forge. Infact, i've seen more forge mods moving to modloader.
Modloader is much easier to manage anyway. despite what people say that forge doesn't change any core data, thats exactly why it crashes minecraft so easily, as Minecraft can't normally deal with external influences.
The biggest problem with forge, is that in order to use it in a server, both client and server has to have forge. i.e., a person wishing to enter a forge server, MUST install forge.
Can't wait till Mojang finally realise that putting mod support in will bring great ease to everyone.
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The only way to change the 'grab' key, is through MC under Controls, or by editing the config file. Grab can't be turned on and off, but of course, wont work unless you hold that key down.