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Quote from microjunk

Please hold back on some of the criticism, we are a new mod team picking up where the old creator of the mod left off, we will address all issues as we can. At the moment our main concern is the functionality of the mod, fixing bugs, making sure that some of the items and blocks work as originally intended and so forth.

Understood, just pointing some stuff out to do later when bugs are fixed. Speaking of bugs...

Can't place Tablets or Bio-Fossils.
When battling Tyrannosaurus it never lies down, meaning it is impossible to tame.
Sometimes eggs will just NOT grow, even in the proper conditions.
Riding a Plesiosaur crashes Minecraft.

*drops in with big book of dinosaurs
Here to address issues with accuracy, if possible please change model.

Tyrannosaurus: FULL RETROSAUR ALERT! Tail dragging? Seriously? That;s like, early/mid 1900s. Also, eyes are way to big, head is majorly off. 3 claws, not 2 on the lower limbs. Also, major lake of feathers. And it is called Tyrannosaurus rex (or T. rex or Tyrannosaurus) Here are some good references:
http://shartman.deviantart.com/art/A-T-rex-named-Stan-125137798
http://alexandernevsky.deviantart.com/art/Tyrannosaur-Charge-318922120
http://alexandernevsky.deviantart.com/art/Winter-Kill-345624627

More coming soon.

*leaps out window onto theoretical accurate Minecraft Tyrannosaurus

Quote from Armigus

1. With so many people using this mod with Thaumcraft 3, would it make sense to give the mob drops aspects for research, infusion, etc?

2. Normal meat animals drop the cooked variant if slain with a fiery weapon. Why don't yours?

3. All big lizards (Crocodile, Komodo Dragon) need to drop consistent, and interchangeable, leather. I would add a Raptor (as in 6-foot predatory lizard, common to plains and forests, attacks anything it can catch) to that mix as well.

4. I don't see many creatures that spawn in the Nether or End. Perhaps a imp or other small demon that drops glowstone dust?

Umm, they aren't lizards. They are fully feathered dinosaurs. And it isn't just a "Raptor" its a group of different dinosaurs called dromeosaurs like Dromeosaurus, Velociraptor, Utahraptor and Deinochynus. Some lived in deserts, plains, jungles, MANY habitats. Some even lived in the arctic tundra.

Quote from Armigus

1. With so many people using this mod with Thaumcraft 3, would it make sense to give the mob drops aspects for research, infusion, etc?

2. Normal meat animals drop the cooked variant if slain with a fiery weapon. Why don't yours?

3. All big lizards (Crocodile, Komodo Dragon) need to drop consistent, and interchangeable, leather. I would add a Raptor (as in 6-foot predatory lizard, common to plains and forests, attacks anything it can catch) to that mix as well.

4. I don't see many creatures that spawn in the Nether or End. Perhaps a imp or other small demon that drops glowstone dust?

Umm, they aren't lizards. They are fully feathered dinosaurs. And it isn't just a "Raptor" its a group of different dinosaurs called dromeosaurs like Dromeosaurus, Velociraptor, Utahraptor and Deinochynus. Some lived in deserts, plains, jungles, MANY habitats. Some even lived in the arctic tundra.

Quote from CMMC

Yes but now you would haev to ask what supspecies and during wicth time peroid hes talking about the oviraptor, since the feathers were more during the later periods and a early oviraptor wouldnt have had feathers. Also the largest dinosaur known... we know very little about dinosaurs and know very little species

You obviously have no idea who you are talking too. ALL Oviraptorids and actually most theropod dinosaurs were feathered. Oviraptorids had quite elaborate feathers quite like a peacock. Not sure what you mean by "early oviraptor". And thats why I said the largest WE KNOW OF.

^I can also help. If this is going to be accurate it needs ALOT of model changes, more feathers please!

Quote from Fail_Field

After reading all of that you've pretty much just talked about everything you can do with horses, but with pigs... If there's a companions mod then why does it need to be implemented into the game? It's pointless from what I've read. People use pigs for quick sources of food whilst exploring. Before horses you put a saddle on the pig and it just wandered about, until the carrot on the stick was added no one used pigs for transport because lets be realistic about this, in real life have you even seen a pig carrying a person, let alone a chest/furnace/workbench? No? Exactly! In real life the main thing pigs are used for is breeding and eating. Why should Minecraft be any different? Most of the older animals in Minecraft are needed for their own individual things. Pigs are the same. You can find pigs in almost any biome so you can get food from them, that's all you need pigs for.

Why do we need to make NPCs used for food OP? That'll just ruin the balance of the game completely.

Good idea, but NO SUPPORT.

First off, I understand the Companions mod does alot of the same as this suggestion. I mention that in the OP. Second off, don't break realism into this. In minecraft, we're in a world of blocks and fight suspiciously shaped green monsters while mining for ores. Third, cows are used for leather and meat. Sheep are used for wool, and in 1.8, meat. Chickens are for feathers, and meat. Pigs, are for ONLY meat. Each major passive animal except for the pig has a secondary drop.

Quote from _Oneiroclept

There is no need to make pigs useful at all, they're food and until the "OH LOOK AT HOW FUNNY THIS PIG LOOKS WHEN I LEAD IT WITH A CARROT AND RIDE IT" update that's all they were and even then they're were still only useful for food.

/no_support

That's the point of the suggestion, to make it so pigs aren't the definitive useless mob. This suggestion is in attempt to make pigs newer, and better.

Quote from ONECOOLDUDE

so is this a hybrid of the battlepigs mod and horses?

In essence, yes.

Quote from Kholdstare

There is a need to make pigs more useful because cows are superior to pigs in virtually every way. Cows drop the same amount of food as pigs but additionally drop leather and can be milked. Pigs can be used for transport, but horses blow them away in that department and you're probably going to have access to horses before you have access to carrots.



Anyways, my thoughts on the actual idea:

-Pigs oinking louder when a mob is near is only really useful for creepers because you would be able to hear the other mobs, making the pig redundant. Would be redundant for creepers as well if your hearing is good enough to hear their footsteps.
-The headbutt isn't terribly useful as it does pitiful damage (which is intentional) and knocks mobs away from where you want them to be; would be especially infuriating for skeletons whom would take a tiny bit of damage in exchange for a chance to shoot more arrows at you. Only really useful against creepers, but cats make for a better creeper counter.
-The portable utility blocks aren't terribly useful either. Chests would be nice if you don't have a donkey, but if you do it's not very useful since you can just use the donkey instead. Crafting tables only save you an inventory spot, but that's negated by the fact that chests give far more than one inventory slot. Furnaces have a similar problem to crafting tables but at least they have a benefit in allowing you to smelt or cook things while you travel. Somewhere else I read an (extremely, in that it's virtually the same as this) similar idea where the pig could carry an Enderchest which actually WOULD be useful since you can't pick them back up without Silk Touch.

Overall they're not terribly useful. Wolves are better at fighting regular mobs (and don't end up making things harder for you, though they do get killed very easily since they have no armor) whereas cats are a more effective counter to creepers. And, of all the portable utility blocks, only the furnace is useful; donkeys can carry chests as well as pigs and can travel much faster compared to pigs, and the crafting table only saves you an inventory space and the time it takes to dig it out of your inventory, place it, and pick it back up.

-Point taken on the oinking.
-Didn't think about making skeletons a pain with the pig's headbutt. Maybe the pig would only target skeletons if it could kill.
-Generally, I don't like bringing larger mobs like horses and donkeys into small and constricted caves, so I believe that having a mob that is roughly the size of a dog compared to the size of a horse is better overall.
-Completely forgot about the enderchest, thanks for bringing that up.
-I would like to think of choosing between powerful and relentless attacks (dogs,) creeper defense (cats,) mobility (horses/donkeys/mules,) and a jack of all trades (pigs.)
In fact, what's stopping you from having a group of animals, made up of pigs, dogs and cats to protect you as you do your own thing?

This suggestion was made to add something I think would be cool into Minecraft, not something forced onto players. Thanks for the responses, both good and bad, as it helps make the suggestion better.

Thanks!

I find improving pigs to wear armor and more cute, I would want to ride a pig wearing armor

Vote for the new MineDeck on the villager on steroids, or the miserable creatures in the nether. Wednesday's MineDeck will either be Iron Golems or Ghasts.

So if I want to send an item home without going home you're suggesting that I put it in this? When I could use a regular ender chest?

Maybe you're trying to say that It would go directly into a proper chest right under the first hopper after being placed in the second hopper, though the only advantage I can see to that is no one else taking it, but that's kinda a risk you have to take if you really want instant teleportation of stuff.

I see where you're getting at with the mob grinder thing, but I think most mob grinders only work if there is a player near them to keep mob spawning there, and that player would probably be capable of taking more than he ever needed back to wherever the leaved, and anyone who actually bothered with making that mob grinder all the way from home and actually wants it all, they probably have the man hours to hook it up with actual hoppers.

But lets not forget the one major flaw this has. Once there are even two ender hopers hooked up to two different chests, which hopper gets the stuff thrown into it? I don't want to sound like I'm being mean, and I'm not trying to, but did you actually just write it down because you thought it was a great idea, because it feels like you did rush it.

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This one is steves face but in a circle.

Also my first Smiley attempt!



EDIT: Nevermind out-of-theme anyway.

This thread is about hostile mobs with unique abilities. However, you can only find this hostile mob in a certain biome type. I am hoping to make all the mobs have useful drops, too.

1. Savanna

The Savanna is going to have a new animal called a cheetah. Cheetahs spawn about as commonly as zombies do, except they spawn during the night and day. Cheetahs have 20 health (10 hearts) and are faster than a player sprint jumping by a tiny bit. They do 4 damage (2 hearts of damage) and drop 0-2 cheetah fur. Cheetah fur is now used to brew swiftness potions instead of sugar.

2. Swamp

The Swamps are going to have a new creature lurking in them known as the crocodile. Crocodiles spawn about as commonly as endermen do, except spawn during the night and day. Crocodiles have 30 health (15 hearts) just like a guardian. Crocodiles are about as fast as a zombie on land, but are as fast as a player sprinting in water. They do 6 damage (3 hearts of damage) and have a special attack. They will grab players in their mouth (this works as the player mounting the crocodile, but they won't be able to escape unless they kill the crocodile) randomly and drag them in the water. They will do 2-4 damage (1-2 hearts of damage) every 2-5 seconds to the player when holding the player. Crocodiles drop 0-2 crocodile hide, which can be brewed into an awkward potion to get a potion of resistance.

3. Desert and Mesa

Ssss.... Is that a creeper? No, it is a desert dwelling snake. Snakes have many different skins they can spawn in, like horses. Some snakes even camouflage with the landscape. Snakes spawn about as commonly as zombies do, except spawn during the night and day. Snakes have 15 health (7 1/2 hearts) and have a 25% chance to give poison 2 for 3 seconds on easy and normal. They have a 30% chance to give poison 2 for 5 seconds on hard. Snakes are very sneaky, like creepers. They do 3 damage (2 and a half hearts) Snakes drop 0-2 fangs. Fangs can be used instead of flint for arrows. Instead of getting 4 arrows when using fangs as the tip, you get 8 arrows.

4. Jungle

Deadly jungle spiders inhabit the jungles. Jungle spiders spawn a little bit less commonly than zombies do, but more common than endermen. Jungle spiders only spawn at night. They are neutral during the day. Jungle spiders have 18 health (9 hearts). They look like normal spiders, except are a cyan color like cave spiders and have purple eyes. They do the same amount of damage a normal spider does, but they have a 75% chance to inflict nausea 1 for 5 seconds. Jungle spiders drop 0-2 string and 0-2 jungle spider eyes. Jungle spider eyes are purple spider eyes. They can be brewed into awkward potions to get potions of nausea.

5. Extreme Hills

Mountain goats live in the mountains. Mountain goats look a little bit like sheep. They can be dyed like sheep and spawn naturally with the same wool colors sheep do. Mountain goats spawn as commonly as jungle spiders do, except they spawn during the night and day. They will charge at players and do 4 damage (2 hearts of damage) and do as much knockback as knockback 3. Mountain goats have 10 health (5 hearts). Mountain goats drop 1-2 wool of their corresponding color when killed and have a 0.01% chance to drop their horn. Mountain goats cannot be sheared. Their horn can be added to a weapon in an anvil to give the weapon knockback 3.

More ideas will be added as time goes by. Feel free to leave suggestions on what mob to do for a certain biome. The goal is a new hostile mob for almost every new biome. I will probably not make one for the ocean because guardians are being added.

I think the top half of the inventory (the armor, skin, and 2x2 crafting grid) should be available from any in game interface. They could be added to the sides of the pre existing interfaces and be used to more quickly do simple tasks e.g. open a chest and make some torches and leave left over ingredients in the chest (This could possibly need three separate interface interactions just for the one simple task). Or be able to equip armor directly from a chest or crafting table .Granted the 2x2 grid is redundant in the crafting bench popup but I think that would be a small thing compared to rest. I also thought that could allow some new crafting mechanics which could be cool or use in multi stage crafting where you can do multiple small crafts on the 2x2 grid and put the outputs in the 3x3 to make something else. I will think of some more specific examples at some point but I do think that there is some potential there. In addition an additional way to close the in game interfaces would be nice. My preference would be for just clicking outside of the active interface (which I see as being akin to "looking away" from what you are working with. This however is just a side idea. I don't see it as unbalancing anything as the mechanics are not changing. It would just let you do more with out having to go back and forth a lot. Let me know what you think. Below are some of the ideas I had for how this could be utilized with specific interfaces. Most of which have pictures with them now. Let me know some of the ways this might make your Minecraft experience better/easier and I will list them along with your name.

(All other pictures are within the 'spoiler' sections below.)
Large/Small Chest
Crafting Table
Furnace
Dispenser/Dropper
Enchantment Table
Brewing Stand
Villager
Beacon Block
Anvil Creative

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A village with walls thick enough to have railed walkways on top of the walls, with Iron Golems or maybe some type of villager with a bow on top, and towers, TNT cannons, and a gate, automatically spawned, with 3 times the number of normal village buildings and residents, with more loot in blacksmith shops than most blacksmiths usually have. Also, have it well lit and have villagers with swords inside, and stairs to access the walkways.