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    posted a message on Are you satisfied with the proformnce of 4J/ Microsoft?
    Quote from Gonzo2095»

    "Numbers playing have dropped"? PC version sales ~ 15 million as of June 2014 vs. 21 million today the fact is more and more people are purchasing the game, and I suspect that would translate into more people playing the game, so unless you have some sources proving your statement, then I don't buy that comment.

    "Also 2 feature updates is far less than most games. Fact" care to list the PS or Xbox games which have multiple free feature updates? because every year I have to buy the new 2Kwhatever for soccer/football/hockey/baseball/wrestling etc. etc. or COD 2/3/4 and GTA 1/2/3/4/5 etc.

    From my vantage point most games companies force you to purchase a whole new version of the game, but if you could list them that would help to prove your "Fact."

    "They make A LOT of money, more than most independent companies could dream of, yet they have chose rather than to be humble, they will instead pull an EA"

    So they aren't allowed to make money? Or is there a cap on how much they may make? And as for them being humble? please cite specifics, because for the whining and crap they put up with from fans complaining about every nuance of the game, they still answer tweets; forum posts etc. and they seem pretty humble to me?

    PC sales....blaw blaw. This is PS4 section btw. "I don't buy that comment."
    I base my findings on observations from the psn, gone from 30+ people on friends list playing to 4.. Streams, gone from a top 5 everyday game to top 20, roughly 750+ streams to a tame 200 now, with noticeably less viewing also. The nearly 10,000 strong gaming community I game from has no interest in the game any more across consoles.

    Warframe, Planetside 2, Rocket league... There is plenty, don't be ignorant. Yes there are companies wanting money 2 times a year for a re skinned game, or theres Destiny that are holding content you already have payed for ransom for $40. Nevertheless there are games with less income and ability than minecraft hammering out quality updates, communicating with fans etc.

    I don't care about "tweets", that takes them what... 5 seconds to reply. I'm looking for more than a yearly update, and looking for less time taken to fix bugs, there are still untouched bugs from last years update..

    I understand that the fanboi in you wants to defend and be loyal but they really are doing a bad job. When were slimeblocks released on PC? And it takes over a year to port it across? rubbish. They give us a few items for creative mode to try hold us through? colored glass....not good enough. People are not critical enough of games companies, which is why they do what they are all starting to do, expect money but not work for it.
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    posted a message on Are you satisfied with the proformnce of 4J/ Microsoft?
    Quote from robkaper»

    How is MC a stale game on consoles? It has gotten several updates in the past year, two of which including new features. Fact remains that this is more than almost every other title available, regardless of how many times someone mentions Warframe.

    But perhaps you've exhausted all the possibilities of the current version sooner than I have, in which case playing another game for a while seems like a good idea. :)

    Numbers playing have dropped, easy ways to monitor this.....
    "Several updates", or 1 LOL, we have had bugfixes and minor additions since last December, Fact.
    Also 2 feature updates is far less than most games. Fact.

    I did take a 3 month break, come back to the same game I was playing 10 months ago... They make A LOT of money, more than most independent companies could dream of, yet they have chose rather than to be humble, they will instead pull an EA.
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    posted a message on Are you satisfied with the proformnce of 4J/ Microsoft?
    Quote from Akynth»


    I've never bought a texture pack, so my $$$$$$$$ is safe. But given the fact that a texture pack costs less than a candy bar, I'm not really worried about the expense, either. Even the big mash-up packs still cost less than a small mocha frappucino at Starbuck's.

    They haven't taken away the game I did buy, nor required me to pay more in order to play it, so I don't see a problem there, either.

    For what it's worth, I also own an Atari 2600 and a bunch of games (no, I'm not that old; I bought it at a yard sale). Nobody's siphoning my money there, either, even though none of the games for it have been updated in 30+ years. In fact, back when the 2600 was made, there was no such thing as patches or updates. You bought a game, and that was the game you had. When you got tired playing it, you bought a different game. For what it's worth, in today's money those games would sell for around $150. Now you buy a game for $20 and expect to have more stuff added to it, at the developer's expense, apparently forever. Say what?

    I bought Minecraft (two years+ ago) because I wanted to play the game that came in that little green box. They've added more stuff since then and didn't charge me for it; that's really cool. But if they'd never added anything after the day I took it home from GameStop, I'd still be perfectly happy. I bought the game because I wanted that game, not because I wanted some other game that it might turn into, and was expecting it to become something else. If that's what I wanted, I would have waited and bought that game instead! And if I had in fact wanted something different (I did want hoppers!) that still did not oblige 4J to add, change, or frob anything in the game to make me happy. They already had my money; I already had their game. The transaction was complete.

    As for "adding insult to injury": They need to pay artists to create the texture packs. They probably (I'm not 100% certain on this) need to pay the platform owners to distribute those texture packs. In the case of the licensed mash-up packs, they have to pay the rights owner royalties for the license. So why, exactly, do you feel that you should have them for free? You've already bought Minecraft; no matter what they do with it, they're not going to get any more of your money. They could add new content every week, and they'd still not get any more of your money. Selling texture packs = buying groceries. So if they quit selling texture packs, they can either quit buying groceries -- which their families (and their stomachs) would probably have an issue with -- or they can quit making texture packs and go do something they can make money from, because groceries. They're not going to stop buying groceries if they have any choice in the matter. So either they sell the texture packs, or they stop making them and do something else. Neither of these options involves giving them to you for free.



    Except Warframe isn't free. They sell in-game currency. It's a "freemium" game, and purchases of platinum constitute an ongoing revenue stream for Digital Extremes. They have a solid financial reason to keep adding content: they need to keep players playing the game so they can sell more platinum. What reason, exactly, does 4J have? How will adding more content make them more money?



    Platinum is to warframe as texture/skin packs are to mine craft. Continuing development will keep players around, players who buy stuff..more money.

    MC is losing numbers, a stale game doesn't fare to well on consoles, simple as.

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    posted a message on PS4 Iron golem

    The "pod" golem farm is poor, we have an golem farm that requires a little more work but is a monster for productivity.


    Add me if you want to see it, on most evenings (US eastern).

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    posted a message on Are you satisfied with the proformnce of 4J/ Microsoft?
    Quote from robkaper»

    Considering that


    • 4J is a small team
    • going from 1.6 to 1.8 is a big, double update
    • updates are free for a game that cost no more than €25

    I am very satisfied.


    These would be good points if games like warframe didn't exist, free to play and hammering out good quality updates. There is no reason why it is taking 1 year to get us new biomes. Other than complacency.
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    posted a message on Are you satisfied with the proformnce of 4J/ Microsoft?
    Quote from ParadoxCreed»

    I feel that this game has gone to crap. Updates are slow, huge bugs, still no player cap increase, and I just get the impression that I am just being syphoned of my money. but how does the community feel?


    Fully agree.
    Only updates are minor bugs, still can't build a blaze machine..
    Real updates are needed, the games dead in terms of people playing, live streams dropped by 75%, nothing new, nothing to do.

    Then they add insult to injury with tex pack after tex pack $$$$$$$$.
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    posted a message on This is a joke!! Updates: Where are they?
    Quote from robkaper»

    Most games: pay €65, get a few patches, pay €20 for DLC features. Pay €65 again the next year, sometimes for as little as a roster update (I'm looking at you, EA). Minecraft: pay €25 once, play forever, with free feature updates alongside bug fixes.


    If Mojang/4J never ever updated again I would still spend hours in it and even recommend it as a new purchase (but please don't, Mojang/4J). You're getting so much value for your money already, don't be greedy.


    There are free games that rely on optional micro transaction systems that update their games A LOT more than minecraft. It's not greed that fuels this is BOREDOM, greed is Mojang/4J and Microsoft. We just want new biomes and blocks. One main update per year, is not good enough in today's world.
    If fallout4 gets here before a new update, minecraft is gone for me
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    posted a message on This is a joke!! Updates: Where are they?

    Where are the updates, we have been waiting months for an update, all we have had is half measure fixes, a few doors and MICROSOFT wanting $$ (star wars/doctor who etc).


    Had a great seed going, good people, great builds(mega builds). All quit the game. Now when I see a minecraft update pop up I know it's just more texture packs, they need more $$$, but are not doing their job.


    Still huge bugs in the game ignored, eg. Blazes don't spawn from blaze spawners....

    No new biomes, though they thought we'd be happy with a few chunks of wood and some doors.


    Meanwhile my notifications screen is sprawling with great updates from nearly every other game. Even my 7year old is tired of waiting, found himself some better managed games to play.

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    posted a message on PS4 updates

    Microsoft are only interested in getting money back...obvious.

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    posted a message on Seeking People For Long Lasting World 21+

    Very awkward experience here, they asked me to send a photo of myself. Then made me hum a single tone whilst they ridiculed me.


    Other than that it was great, they were very enthused by hard salami topics, was interesting.

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    posted a message on Ps4 vs PC

    PS4 uses your playstation account, PC uses mojang account, so no

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    posted a message on Interior designers/builders to furnish buildings

    Biggest minecraft problem right here, server full of cool looking buildings.

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    posted a message on Minecraft PS4 Edition: Official Bugs Discussion

    no, you saves are seperate files than the actual minecraft app/file

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    posted a message on Minecraft PS4 Edition: Official Bugs Discussion
    Quote from Eankar_»

    When riding a mine art you float above it, you aren't actually in it. In a two block high tunnel, this causes your head to go inside blocks without being suffocated.


    Beds do not work as a respawn point. I have already tried destroying and replacing the bed.


    Enchanting is broken. 30 levels and all I got was punch 1 on a bow. Another 30 levels in a pick axe got me u breaking 3 while other times that gets me unbraking 4, efficiency 3 and silk touch.


    Looks like a client issue there, I'd try re installing. Our minecarts and beds work fine.
    Enchanting is fine for us also, dunno how you got unbreaking 4

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    posted a message on Minecraft PS4 Edition: Official Bugs Discussion
    Quote from Chaos4139»

    For some reason Blaze spawners dont work after we reset the nether, not sure if its repeatable but from what I tested its not =[


    Blaze spawners are broke on all my friends minecrafts aswell. Annoying.

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