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    posted a message on Could Microsoft be the end of the Modding Community?
    People like you guys are the reason Notch bailed ship. But put on your tin foil hats and flame away, I'm done with this website.
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    posted a message on Spears, hunting, sumoning, another dimention and more
    Would love a spin on this idea: harpoons to fight guardians underwater.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from Pawkeshup»

    I know how business works. Contracts can be made. He legally owned Minecraft even if he quit Mojang. Legally, even without a contract, he would have had rights to any money made from a sale of the company. In his own words, he didn't want to deal with Minecraft any longer. There are numerous paths out of that situation, he chose the one that would line his pockets.

    As for us spinning our "personal hell", we are going by experience with how Microsoft has dealt with companies in the past. It isn't just one incident. Or a handful. There is a long standing history here. They strip out features, paywall them away, and expect the consumer to be happy. Great example is Microsoft Office, one of their own products. I bought Office 2000 years ago when my ex wanted it. It cost nearly $900 and came with a three PC licence. Right now, today, you can buy the latest Office for $399 per PC, but without any tablet apps or smartphone access. To get those, you have to subscribe.

    Asheron's Call was murdered by them, because they never understood the community that played the game. Sysinternals was locked up in the vault instead of allowing people to keep using it for free. Rare was gutted after Microsoft couldn't force out a good game from them. The list goes on and on and on. Company after company devoured by Microsoft, then torn about.

    Notch bailed out, regardless of reason, and ensured he had a gold parachute while doing it. If he honestly cared about the community, he would have just made arrangements to continue to receive proceeds from his creator, and left the company.

    the examples you gave are extremely old, made by a Microsoft company that wasn't nearly as in touch with the communities that use the products as they do today. I won't even touch the Office example, but to point directly to AC, when this occurred it was 2004. Just to give you an idea of how everything in tech has changed since then, Google launched their IPO in 2004. Internet Phone services like Skype and Vonage were just becoming popular. The iPhone wasn't even a glimmer in Apple's eyes yet, with the iPod being the big seller of the year. iTunes as a service had only been available for the PC for about a year, and was just beginning to get a big catalog of music. Firefox was just becoming a thing and Chrome didn't even exist. Oh, and let me not forget that most of the people pitching a fit on these forums were still wearing diapers, apparently. Edit: Add to that list that the XBox 360 hadn't even launched yet.

    The Microsoft of today is not perfect, but much more in tune with gamers. They gave in when they realized that the directions they were taking with the XB1 were wrong (although people still flamed them for buckling under public pressure, which just shows how you really can't please anyone nowadays). Microsoft supported indie developers far before Sony did, to their credit (and that's respect coming from someone who prefers playstation over xbox) and despite the FUD flying around, they did not pioneer pay walls, DLC, or subscription services in gaming. As a reasonable human being and also a fan of minecraft since I bought the game in Alpha (circa Halloween Update when the Nether was added to the game), I am of course always nervous when something I enjoy playing changes ownership, especially from a small dedicated group of people like Notch, Jeb, and company. But I crack up laughing at reading some of the garbage flying around on these forums, and can only help to think that many people here act like my 7 year old son. Fast to overreact, quick to whine when he doesn't get his way, and thinks he knows a lot more than he really does. Why don't we all take a deep breath, let this settle in, and see what happens. If and when the sky falls, by all means abandon ship. Or quit now, I don't really care. Honestly I feel like this community could use a culling, seeing how a lack of maturity from his fans basically drove Notch away from Mojang.

    And if somehow it all falls apart, it was a great ride. There is not a single game with a dedicated community that I've played that hasn't at some point declined to the point where it was no longer still a compelling experience, and Minecraft won't be an exception to that. One day years from now, it won't be the same, but that's true in all of life. Nothing lasts forever. If the plug was pulled on the game today, I got my money's worth, for sure. Thanks Notch for all that you did for us, and thanks Jeb for taking over and giving your all to this game, and hopefully we'll be thanking someone else (or perhaps still Jeb, no indication yet whether he's even leaving) a year from now for a continued wonderful experience.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from BFeely»
    Maybe we should consider voicing our concerns to [email protected]

    Beware that they request a daytime phone number though.

    How is this an anti trust issue? Please explain this to me (this should be really entertaining)
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from Nimphina»


    Based on what information? Microsoft is clever enough to know that there is money to be made on all platforms here.

    According to Phil Spencer, Microsoft will continue support for the game as well as continued development amongst ALL platforms. http://www.joystiq.com/2014/09/15/microsoft-confirms-acquisition-of-minecraft-studio-mojang/
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    posted a message on Could Microsoft be the end of the Modding Community?
    The sky is falling omgersh herp derp lol!!!!11111oneoneone

    But really, how about grow up much
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from jaquadro»
    Or here's a novel idea: just wait to see what Microsoft does with the property. So far the only group poisoning the game is the community itself.

    Millions of dollars are at stake for whoever puts up a competing game, open source or not, that can reach critical mass on the back of all this bile-spitting. It's every modder's wet dream and I do not envy the community splintering and infighting that will come ahead because the community can't keep its together in the face of a perceived threat.

    Nice to see someone else not losing their head over this without waiting to see what will happen. The amount of FUD flowing around in here is flat out amazing, and not in a good way.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from TheMasterCaver»

    Mojang doesn't need the money - they could operate for at least TEN YEARS without making a single cent.

    Really, straight from Notch himself:



    See this thread for more details.

    Now he'll be able to survive 100 years after he stops making money :P
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from pinsMaster»

    That is a dismal worst case scenario.

    I'm pretty sure the Mac/Playstation users among us are feeling at least mildly perturbed at this point. Myself, as a solely Linux user am understandably distraught. The problem is, many people are Windows/Xbox users and probably couldn't care less that Microsoft will own Minecraft.

    But of course, anything we say at this point is nothing more than rumors, speculation, and worst-case scenarios from a more pessimistic side of the Internet. But all the same, I am uneasy.

    Why would MS spend 2.5 billion on a franchise only to torpedo half of the user base? That makes no financial sense, much less sense from a perspective of trying to increase the brand going forward.
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    posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From Mojang
    Quote from VivekthekidRS»
    They said that U cant ask money for in game money but U are allowed to ask money for points and then reedem them for in game money .

    No they didn't. In fact, they said quite the opposite, stop making up stuff. They specifically said that you cannot sell in game currency for real money. That's actually one of the freaking bullet points in the FAQ for the EULA changes.
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