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Mar 23, 2013

Mystic_Eyes posted a message on Sharks and Water Breathing Potions [Pics][142+ Supporters!]

Yes, I'm aware shark suggestions have been done to death, but just hear me out.

- Spawns in ocean or beach biomes
- Only between 60 - 48 altitude, at light levels 11 and below
- And only on

or

blocks
- Uncommon
- Neutral
- Cannot drown, suffocates and is greatly slowed if beached
- Has 16 health (

)
- Does 4 damage (

)
- Drops:

(0-1),

(0-2)
- Basis

Like their real life equivalent, these sharks would be non-hostile unless provoked. I'm sure that many of you are scratching your heads wondering why sharks of all things should be implemented as a neutral mob. That premise is based off some things Notch said, where he didn't want to implement hostile sharks [see "Notch's streaming (July 14, 2010)"]. I'm well aware that Notch is no longer an active member of the team, but there's a good reason for no hostile aquatic mobs due to the massive advantage even a small group would have over the player.

Sharks spawn in ocean biomes and only on dirt or sand. Therefore, you're not going to have them invade your cobblestone swimming pool or have to tiptoe around them while picking up crops that fell in the water. They are nocturnal predators and become more active during the night. During this time they feed on their favorite food, squid.

They are resistant to conventional methods for taking critical damage and will also resist being pulled by a fishing rod, but if moved out of the water they will slowly flee and suffocate.

Sharks may drop Shark Skin (

) which if it is used in a potion, it will create a Potion of Water Breathing, (

) which adds the unused item and status effect for player use. One interesting aspect is that sharks will rarely spawn with one or two fish (

) floating alongside them.

If they spawn during the rain, that likelihood doubles. Players can use shears or a fishing rod to pluck the fish right off the shark, but if they do, the shark will be provoked. If killed while having fish float around them, the shark will drop the respective amount of fish. Note: this does not replace the default fishing method.

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Feb 20, 2013

jde posted a message on UPDATED PIX: Gryphons (Balanced flight for Survival mode)

ATTENTION TO SUPPORTERS: Please support us on Reddit. This may be our best chance of getting Mojang to notice Gryphons and have them added. Please click here, upvote, comment and help us get an active discussion going: http://www.reddit.co..._survival_mode/

(See below for more concept art. Above screenshot is photoshopped, not a mod. All art by Papertiger)

DISCLAIMER: Please note that this is not a mod, nor a mod suggestion. This is a suggestion for Mojang to add to vanilla Minecraft.

Hello! I would like to share my ideas of how Gryphons might be a good addition to Minecraft. After deciding to post my suggestion here, I did a search and saw that there have been a few posts about Gryphons throughout the past few years. But they were quite different from what i had in mind, focused on a wide swath of mythical creatures, or mod/add-on related.

My hope is that others will share my vision for simple, balanced, non-immersion-breaking, Mojang-style Gryphons to be added to Minecraft in a future patch.

Here it goes:

A way I could see Gryphons fitting into the Minecraft universe is that in an "Extreme Hills" biome, you could find a nest either on top of a mountain, or on the side of a cliff. I imagine the nest would only be one or perhaps two blocks large and in the shape of an eagle's nest. In my opinion, the player would never see a wild adult Gryphon. The only chance they would have at seeing a Gryphon would be if they raised one themselves. Thus making them FAR more rare and special. Almost like finding diamonds. If the player were lucky enough to find one of these nests, and endured the journey to reach it, they would see an egg sitting in the middle of the nest.

The player would then follow these steps to hatch, raise, saddle and then ride their Gryphon:

The player would take the egg from the nest and bring it back to their home/cave/castle/dwelling and place it on a block of dirt underneath a torch.
The player would then have to wait a couple of in-game days.
After a few days pass, a baby Gryphon would emerge.
The player would then have to feed the baby Gryphon meat or fish once a day for a couple days.
After a couple days of feeding, the baby Gryphon would grow into an adult, ready to be saddled.
The player would then place a regular saddle, the type used on pigs, onto their newly raised Gryphon.
Upon being saddled, the player's new Gryphon is ready to be mounted. But that doesn't mean the player can have unlimited, overpowered flight. No sir.

BALANCE:
Just because the player has a Gryphon doesn't mean he or she is able to fly anywhere they want with no limitations. Far from it. This will be nothing like flying in creative mode. It will be a slight advantage over regular walking and jumping that the player will have earned.

Instead of unlimited flight, like in creative mode, a Gryphon rider's flight would be slightly challenging yet still useful. Much like how boats function in Minecraft.
In order to take off, and to stay in the air, the player would have to press their space bar for every flap of their Gryphon's wings. This means that the Gryphon, just like the player, is effected by the game's gravity. That way, it wouldn't feel like cheating. This may sounds difficult, but i think it would lead to a much more immersive Gryphon flying experience!
Traveling via Gryphon would sometimes be slightly faster and more convenient than walking on foot, but in some cases it would also be a FAR worse alternative to walking. For example, trying to fly your Gryphon down into and through a cave would be a TERRIBLE idea.

USES:
If you have built a giant castle like my brother and I have, which i'm sure MANY of you have, then I have a feeling you'll understand why I think the best use for a Gryphon would be to quickly reach one of the top floors of your castle without having to climb all of it's inner stair cases and ramps.

But there would be many, many more uses, such as:

Getting past mountains a little faster than on foot, and without the need to eat as much.
Flying over lakes or rivers instead of having to swim.
Safe late night traveling. That is, unless you get shot by a skeleton's arrow
Being able to leave from the top floor of your castle or other large dwelling.
FUN! Or atleast i think it would be.

GAME FITTING:
The last thing I would ever want is to suggest an idea that would ruin the immersion of Minecraft. I believe this idea would be game fitting for Minecraft because of the wonderful animals Mojang has already put into the game. When I think of Gryphons in Minecraft, I can just picture an in-game Gryphon done in Mojang's wonderfully simple yet beautiful art style... All block-ish and colorful

GAME BREAKING?:
No more than a boat would be. You would hardly be able to aim at someone with a bow, let alone actually hit them with an arrow from it. Hitting a player or mob with a sword would be even harder. In order to deal damage to anything, from bow or sword, you'd have to land your Gryphon and completely stop moving. At that point, you would actually become vulnerable due to lack of mobility (You cannot walk or run on a Gryphon, only fly. And take-off isn't instant, due to the need to flap your Gryphons wings.). This is not a mount intended for combat.

Thanks for reading and sorry for the giant wall of text.

I would like to thank Theriasis for their wonderful guide on how to post on the suggestion forum. I tried my best to follow their advice!

CONCEPT ART :
Standing:

Sitting:

Flying:

Model views:

MORE ART:
Click this spoiler for even more concept art and photos.

Brooding box

Dimninds!

NOTE: This photo is an inside joke and purely for fun. We do NOT suggest that Gryphons should EVER shoot diamonds. Or dimninds. Click this spoiler to proceed

Roosts

Special thanks to Papertiger for all of the awesome concept art, avatars and signature banners!

SUPPORTER SUGGESTIONS:
You guys have given me many awesome suggestions so i decide to place the most game fitting and balanced ones here:

Disclaimer: I will try my best to describe your guys' ideas and list the names of the people who have suggested them. Let me know if i miss something!

Disclaimer II: This thread is rapidly gaining support and unfortunately i can't always keep track of who has suggested what. I'm most likely to miss some people who deserve credit, sorry. Let me know if i do!

0. HEALTH, HUNGER AND MORTALITY (pinballboy7, Droideka30, Papertiger, zeel, ErasmoGnome, IonicTiger): One of the most talked about suggestions. The idea that tamed Gryphons should have health, hunger and be killable by mobs, other players or enviromental conditions (lava, etc.). It has also been suggested that if your Gryphon gets hungry enough, it will bite/peck at you in frustration, buck you off if you attempt to mount it, or even go off and eat wild animals and/or livestock (pigs, chickens, sheep, cows).

1. Soaring (Papertiger, Droideka30, zeel, crazeenuthead): You should be able to hold down the space bar to make your Gryphon soar, once you have already achieved altitude and speed

2. Wild adult Gryphons in the sky (Papertiger, Paradox01010, zeel): You shoud sometimes be able to see wild Gryphons flying high up (out of reach) in the sky. Perhaps flying in the direction of where a nest and egg is. This would most likely be rare.

3. Walking (Kisdee, RobertFrans): Instead of strictly being able to fly and hop, a mounted Gryphon would be able to slowly walk on the land as well. It would be unable to move up and down blocks (like a pig), but you could just press spacebar to flap its wings in order to hop up to where ever you are trying to get.

4. Breeding (Droideka30, Papertiger, zeel): If you are lucky, and skilled enough, to obtain two Gryphon eggs, and now are the proud owner of two Gryphons, you should earn the right to breed them. Once Gryphons breed, they would lay one egg. It has also been suggested that tamed Gryphons can only breed during a full moon and that when bred in captivity, Gryphons need a "Brooding box" in which to lay their eggs. See Papertiger's brooding box concept art here

5. Gryphon melee attack (Paradox01010, zeel): Your Gryphon would be able to do damage and/or a knockback to enemies that you dive at with it. This would be hard, but if you were able to steer your Gryphon properly, you would inflict damage fairly.

6. A special way to take the egg (Moosemunchee, zeel, RobertFrans, IonicTiger, zapper990): The idea that the player shouldn't simply be able to punch the Gryphon egg until it breaks and then pick it up. Perhaps the player would have to use a pickaxe with the Silk Touch enchant, a piston, minecart and rail, diamond pickaxe, shovel or something else. It has also been suggested that Gryphon nests and eggs should spawn only in the spring and despawn in the fall, meaning that you can never find them in the winter.

7. DOGFIGHTS! / Sky Jousting/ Sky Duels (bebe33, Papertiger, Paradox01010): It would be awesome, wouldn't it?

8. Visual roll while turning (bebe33): The idea that a Gryphon should roll slightly while turning, for visual effect. Much like how a bird rolls as it turns in real life.

9. Pitch (bebe33, zeel): The idea that you should be able to pitch your Gryphon up and down while flying. Pitching it downwards will increase your forward momentum. Pitching it upwards will increase altitude.

10. Thrust (zeel): The idea that you should be able to choose the level of thrust per wing flap based on your timing and space bar usage. (Half flaps, full thrust flaps, etc).

11. Wing angle and banking (zeel):

Quote from zeel

Wing angle: Space bar controls flapping, the W A S D keys control the angle of the wings. W angles them down/forward, S andgles back, A and D angle them opposite each other (A: left down, right up. D: left up, right down). This causes role/banking, witch lets you turn, basically A and D let you turn. Flapping while holding one of the W A S D keys will cause thrust in that direction. With W flapping will thrust you forward (no keys basically only gives you upwards thrust), accelerating you. S will cause the flap to come forward, giving reverse thrust, to slow you down (or fly slightly in reverse when taking off). Flapping with A or D will tighten the turn.

Turning: I have already mentioned two ways to turn, but here is the in depth part. Holding W and looking will cause a very slow turn, holding A or D (whatever direction you wish to turn) will cause you to bank in that direction, this makes the turn much tighter. Using both turning methods at the same time is even better, and causes you to bank much more. If, once you have banked to the maximum level, then flap the wings you will turn drastically in that direction, though you will lose a lot more speed than you would in a normal turn.

See also zeel's ideas for flight mechanics

12. Armor! (zeel, papertiger, Droideka30, IonicTiger): The idea that Gryphons should be able to equip special Gryphon-only armor. There would be leather, iron, gold and diamond versions. The better the quality of the armor, the higher movement speed penalty the Gryphon would suffer due to the weight. It has been suggested that you only find these pieces of armor in Strongholds.

13. Inventory (papertiger, Droideka30, zeel, IonicTiger): The idea that you should be able to place an item similar to a saddle bag or pouch on your Gryphon's back that would act as a chest and the Gryphon's inventory. This may or may not be where you would equip Gryphon-only armor at.

14. Talon grab (SkarmorySilver, papertiger): The idea that your Gryphon should be able to grab things with it's talons on command while mounted. Possible things Gryphons could grab: mobs, players, items, blocks. To make it balanced, if your Gryphon did grab a mob or player, the mob or player would still be able to aim up and attack the Gryphon and/or it's rider. With this form of balance in mind, the player would be able to use it's Gryphon to drop mobs from great heights, inflicting falling damage. This would be at the risk of the Gryphon and the Player's health and well being, however.

15. The Spire (IonicTiger): Click here to view IonicTiger's idea for a Gryphon nest atop a spire:

What if the nest, instead of spawning on the side of a cliff, would spawn on a massive spire that, depending on the hight of the mountain it spawned on, would range any where from a mere twenty blocks high, or a staggering hundered blocks high, and wouldn't end until it reached a few blocks above cloud level, thus forcing you to fight the adult gryphon?

The spire would be a jagged piller of rock, twisted and craved by the wind, as it has stood for a millennium, awe inspiring by its sheer size.
The design of it would have to be carefully considered; if too thin in, it would look a bit... strange; I would prefer it to be at least 7 blocks by 7 blocks, but, players would be able to tunnel right under the tower (assuming that it was hollow), and build a dirt tower to come out right under the egg.
You could fill the inside of the spire with lava, but this would be massively off theme.
Possibly the easiest solution to this problem would be to have to tower made of obsidian, and it would not be hollow. You could tunnel under it, but it would be easier to just fight the mother.
Also, as a few pages back there was talk of gryphons, being the most noble of beasts, collecting treasure, why not have blocks of gold, diamond, and emerald embedded in the spire?
They (the aforermetioned valuable minerals) would randomly spawn in the outer most layer of the spire, but there would only be a maximum number of only six blocks spawning in a tower that could be a hundred blocks high, so even getting them would be a mighty challenge.

16. Lance and saddle mounted lance holder (firewave15): firewave15 has suggested that there should lances and saddle mounted lance holders that the player could use from Gryphon and also possibly Horse back. The saddle mounted lance holder would be required in order for the player to maintain control of his mount whilst using a lance. The lance would do damage based on the speed that your Gryphon is traveling upon the point of impact with an enemy. The lance would have a longer reach than a sword, making it ideal for mounted combat. But it would be useless for anything else. The mounted lance holder would most likely break after a set number of uses, perhaps 50.

17. Fear of fire (IonicTiger): The idea that Gryphon's should be afraid of fire, and will not fly within 5 blocks of any fire. This would add balance to PVP ground vs air combat, making players on the ground slightly more defended from Gryphon riders. Players on the ground would still be vulnerable to a Gryphon rider's bow and splash potions, however.

Quote from IonicTiger

It would prevent gryphon riders from totally dominating the battle-field, but would be small enough as to not render gryphon useless in PVP.

CALL TO ARMS... AND TWEETS... AND REDDITS!
I encourage all of our supporters and/or bannerlords to tweet @Dinnerbone and @Jeb_ so that they can become aware of Gryphons and perhaps add them in a future patch. It worked for the "Colored glass" suggestion. They tweeted and got noticed and now have a good shot at having their idea added. We can do it too, guys!

REDDIT:

Quote from zeel

Dinnerbone recently made mention of a subreddit for MC suggestions. With jde's permission I have posted this suggestion there:
http://www.reddit.co..._survival_mode/

I encourage you all to go check it out/up-vote it!

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BANNERLORDS:
I shall name all those who don our banner! (Let me know if i missed ya):

Papertiger, zeel, Droideka30, empoleon53098, Pinballboy7, Ram9bo, Withnothing, IonicTiger, EmeraldDragon225, SkarmorySilver, gugus294, Xweetok_II,
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EDIT LOG: There are now some concept screenshots further on down this page in a recent post. Added a game breaking? section. Added amazing concept art, avatar and banner by Papertiger. Added a "Supporter Suggestions" section. Added a poll. Added "tweet and support us". Added banner info and bannerlords. Added more concept art inside of spoilers. Added call to arms... And tweets, replacing the old tweet section. Added a disclaimer about this not being a mod or mod suggestion, but rather a vanilla suggestion.

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Nov 20, 2012

IVCraft posted a message on Revolution in Piston Mechanics: Cars, Infinite memory, Piston Robots and More!

Some time ago, I was following the article "What would improve redstone in minecraft" by Regular Hexahedron when I had an idea that could greatly improve minecraft redstone mechanics. Here I describe the actual idea and describe a feasible way to implement it in vanilla minecraft:

Revolutionarizing piston mechanics:
Moveable Dependent Blocks

Introduction

The idea behind this topic is to change piston mechanics, allowing some things that were before considered impossible in minecraft to become true. By this I mean: Free-floating, self contained flying machines, piston based cars and completely automated moving piston robots. Also, self building houses (but this time with beds and paintings on the walls), signs that pop out of the ground and more.

Of course some of these contraptions may be quite complicated to do, but they are possible with just some tweaks in minecraft mechanics. And now I'll show how:

Dependent blocks

What I mean here with "dependent blocks" are blocks that need another block to exist: torches, rails, levers and some tile entities, like paintings, signs and piston heads.

When the parent block is broken or moved away, the dependent (i.e. child) block is immediately dropped - like when you break a block that is under a torch.

And for the pistons, the idea by itself is very simple:

Whenever you do something like this...

This should happen:

Torch moves with the block

You could also push\pull the torch in every direction and it should work the same. And if you have a stack of blocks with torches, levers, pressure plates or any child blocks attached, it should move those blocks as well:

*clicks on lever*

It should work on levers, torches and any other blocks attached to those stone blocks in front of the piston.

However, when there is already a block where the child block should be moved to, either the child block breaks (if the block obstructing the path is a solid block) or the block obstructing the path does (if it's not a solid block):

Solid block:

Nonsolid block:

There is one exception to this rule: when the child block is piston head, it will not break - instead, it will only push\break any blocks in front of it. This is so to allow extended pistons push other extended pistons without breaking in the process.

Practical uses

One thing many people were suggesting in Regular Hexaedron's thread (the one I mentioned above) was to fix a glitch in minecart rails that, when pushed up by a piston, and then back down, they simply break:

This happens because when the piston extends, it pushes normally the blocks in front of it as it does with any other block, but when it retracts, it doesn't "stick" the blocks above it, so the rail acts just like these stone blocks would:

Sticky piston retracting - Does not stick to more than one block

But without it's parent block, the rail, which is floating on the air, simply breaks.

If moveable dependent blocks are allowed, the rail will attach to the stone block when the piston retracts, so the contraption will work as expected, while the stone blocks will behave exactly the same way.

Another example where it can be useful is in cocoa beans farms. Youtube user "monkeyfarm" has done a great job creating a cocoa bean farm that works by pushing the trunk of the tree with pistons, but this relies in a block update bug. His farm can be seen here:

With the new behaviour for cocoa beans when pushed this way, this no longer works, but leaves space for a more reliable (and kinda interesting) cocoa bean farm:

So, how does it work? Simple. The tree is pushed up, then down. The iron saw-like structure stops the cocoa beans from moving, so they break. (Note that this is just to illustrate the concept, I did not optimize it and, sometimes, the cocoa beans gets stuck on the saw - so maybe it's not really "reliable" as I mentioned)

Ok, now getting on the fun part. How can this change make things like robots and cars in vanilla minecraft possible?

Vehicles and robots in vanilla minecraft

This engine is the basis of all moveable devices in minecraft:

The furnace would be sticky piston pointing towards the normal piston on the back

When you flip the lever, the sticky piston extends. You then flip the lever off and the sticky will pull the normal piston near the torch, thus updating it. The normal piston gets powered by the torch and pushes the entire structure forwards, restarting the cycle. Not being powered anymore, the normal piston retracts.

In an real machine, the lever would be an clocked redstone signal coming from some circuit. This would activate the "motors" that would move the entire machine. They could then be stacked side to side, or in a variety of shapes to create automated cars, planes and robots. One of the best thing about it is that a robot could be used to make infinitely extensible memory for redstone devices.

Infinitely extensible memory

Imagine two robots in a sandstone, superflat world. And a computer.

One of the robots is the "signal carrier", and the other is the "tape head". The "tape head" is over the current byte of data, let's say byte 12, and the "signal carrier" is attached to the computer. To increase the value stored on the current bit, the computer activates the "signal carrier", which decouples and goes forward until it detects a redstone signal coming in front of it (the "tape head", telling it is there). It then stops and sends the signal to increase the current value. Then, a sequence of downward pointing pistons move the sandstone under the "tape head" to encode the resulting byte, and the "signal carrier" returns to it's original position. To move the "tape head" one byte forward, a similar process should occur. The "signal carrier" takes the signal from the computer to the "tape head", which will then move further or nearer to the computer to access other bytes of data.

The problem is, the further the "tape head" is from the computer, the slower will be the command processing. But we can have infinite memory in minecraft! (At least before the memory overflows, by reaching the far lands)

Here are the schematics for the machine:

And yes, it was done on ms-paint...

Anyways, let's take a look at the

Extra compactness for redstone mechanisms

That's kinda what every redstone update in minecraft is about today, so let's see what we can do with it.

In RH's thread, I noticed that people were insistently requesting a "power block" in minecraft, one that could be pushed up and down (impossible with the minecart-over-rail method) - And this is also made possible, if you have an lever and a single block. Placing the lever on any side of the block, you will have a toggleable power block, that you can move anywhere.

This concept, as pointed out by user ryanninjasheep, could be used to implement a new kind of piston tape:

In this design, the memory is encoded by blocks with levers on them. On lever means "1", off lever means "0". The blocks could be easily cycled through, would be readable without any repeaters and you could change the memory contents with the click of an mouse! Without mentioning it's a much cheaper method in survival world.

I'm sure there are much more possibilities, principally with the moveable redstone torches, like "super compact BUD switches", "4-block XOR gate" and so on which will simplify redstoners' life, but unfortunately I'm not very good at designing those devices, so I will leave this to real redstone experts.

Publishing the Idea

User BadPrenup has done an amazing banner for my suggestion, so if you want to help publishing it, just copy the code below to your sig:

[url="http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1571723-revolution-in-piston-mechanics-cars-infinite-memory-piston-robots-and-more/"][img]http://i.imgur.com/n4Oop.gif[/img][/url]

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So, that's it. I'm brazillian, so if you see any spelling errors or something like that, please tell me - I spent a LONG time refining this suggestion to get it to the way it's now. Also, if this article sounds confusing for you, feel free to ask anything - I will be following it daily.

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Nov 13, 2011

auzura posted a message on Don't you think Notch should add some things before the end, and should there even be an end?

Quote from TreyCraftServer

If you played minecraft as long as me, You would understand. But The point of minecraft is to survive, and have fun. But we cannot do these things if there is not going to be any more updates, and with him putting this "End" in the game, its pretty stupid in my opinion

Oh for christs sake.

The End is not THE end. You spawn after the credits. You continue playing.
Notch isn't stopping development of the game. There are still going to be things added.
If you played Minecraft as long as me, you would ****ing know this.

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Nov 1, 2011

nootron posted a message on Beavers in Minecraft?

I am so upset that they are adding beavers when they could be fixing bugs!

BEAVERS WILL DESTROY THIS GAME!!!

I called my mom in tears and told her that Notch was adding beavers to the game. She said, "what is a notch? And don't worry, beavers are gentle creatures who generally avoid humans unless cornered".

I feel better now.

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Oct 25, 2011

chezzymann posted a message on How about instead of porting Minecraft to other platforms...

Quote from egorpetrov

lol i bet Notch doesn't do ****, half the time he just probably ****s Ez in his office. lol JK, just give it time. play BF3, and then MW3 and you wan't even have the time to think about minecraft.

I cant even begin to describe how unimaginative and boring those games are.

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Sep 22, 2011

Solaria posted a message on 1.0 New Features! OFFICIAL Report on New Features! MINECRAFT IS RELEASED!

[color="#8B0000"]Remember these are "Pre" releases and nothing is completed until the full release.[/color]

[color="#000000"]Find any new features? Screenshots? Report them all here![/color]
Note: This is NOT the place to report bugs. Just new features.
Report bugs here.

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1.0 PreRelease 2 (For 1.1)
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Client: http://assets.minecraft.net/11w48a/minecraft.jar
Server: http://assets.minecraft.net/11w48a/minecraft_server.jar
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[color="#8B0000"]RULES[/color]

No trolling.
No spamming.
Read entire OP before posting.
No advertising.
No reporting/posting about bugs you find.
Do NOT ask for help with any issues in this topic.

[color="#8B0000"]Weekly Releases (For the future 1.1)[/color]

PreRelease 2

Apples drop from "normal" trees.
Mobs no longer 'trample' crops. They will if they jump.
Press "B" and you can change the game mode (surv/creative)
Can now use shears to destroy tall grass and break it again
Taiga biomes are back.
Sheep eat grass and regain their wool
Farmland is no longer destroyed by items and particles
Added multiple languages
Corrected a setTileEntity multiplayer bug
Corrected a powered rail bug
Corrected a redstone update bug

PreRelease 1

Automatic "Snap Shots": "These "snapshots" will be named 11w47 ( year and week) + a, b, c etc (in case we do more than one), in one word such as "11w47a" - Jeb_
Fixes double door glitch (fixed in 1.0.1?)

[color="#8B0000"]Minecraft 1.0.1 Official Release[/color]

Icon change of the last achievement, "The End."
Redstone wire that is not connected to anything now resembles a single red dot.
That's it. Sorry guys. Well, all of the 1.9 stuff is in too. But that doesn't count as 'new' material. ;P 1.9 info is organized below for your convenience. Have a nice day. *Smiles*

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[color="#8B0000"]Minecraft 1.0.1 is released!
Official Release

Server:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar?
Client:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe

The game should download the update as with any normal update! (Force Update on the Launcher)[/color]

[color="#8B0000"]Release Candidate 2 (RC2)[/color]

Post about this will be around #2400 within this topic.

New Sounds were added shortly before the RCs. Info added in Pre6 too.
New Getting hurt sound!
New Explode sound!
New Chest opening sound!
New Arrow Shooting sound!
New Door opening sound!
New throwing sound! (Eggs / Snowballs)
New throwing sound! (Eye of Ender)
New Enderman Teleporting Sound!
New Enderman Getting hurt Sound!
New 'Gathering' Orbs Sound!
New Eating Sound!
New Potion Drinking Sound! (And you do not 'eat' the bottle anymore.)
New "Baby" Sheep Sound!
Blazes have "metallic breathing-in" Sound! Make same sound as a tool breaking when they get damaged.
Colored sheep now have a random chance of giving you a colored lamb.
Bows now have durability.
Quit-Game button in game menu.
Tools now have a break animation and make a sound when breaking. Blazes make the same 'break' noise sound when hurt.
Double-Doors open different. Open one left door, and it will open both.

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 6[/color]

[color="#000000"]Misc.[/color]

Square Moon/Sun
Water physics fixed.
Explosion damage 'fixed'.
Enderdragon is IN the game.
Endgame.
List of bugs fixed [F] here.
Redstone is faster to mine.
Redstone wire no long trys to "snap" into a block with a redstone torch ontop of it.
Option -> Particle change (Void).
Mining Obsidian takes about 3 seconds. Bug?
ALL doors require redstone - BUG - Confirmed.
New blocks
Enderdragon healer
Enderdragon egg
Stairs drop stairs when mined.
Iron bars mine faster.
Infinite lava has been removed.
Baby sheep can now be "colored". If parents are of different colors, then you have a 50-50 shot of the color. White counts as a color.
The "F" key commands have been removed.
Redstone unplaceable on glowstone. Bug?
New Sounds! Doors, bow, and explosion.

[color="#000000"]Images[/color]

The Enderdragon's health is now shown at the top of the screen in a purple health bar when you are in the End.The Enderdragon now spawns a platform with an End portal and a pillar with an Enderdragon egg on it in its center.Entering the portal causes the end game text/credits to roll(and then respawns the player in the overworld as if they died). Thanks to Forever A Troll post #2323.

Minecraft Credits upon ending of the game

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 5[/color]

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Posts start on #1968. Offical change log here.[/color]

[color="#000000"]Mobs

Squids swim up. Passive squid animation is now vertical.
Slimes no longer have a 'depth y0-16' restriction.
Pigmen no longer accumulate fall damage while swimming in lava.
Ender Dragons
Now take damages by player.
Glows purple when killed, disintegrates and floats upwards - new animation effect.
Drops loads of XP and one obsidian block.
Have the same eye shining thin Enderman has.
Dragon makes "a player gettin hit sound" when damaged.
Mobs 'neutral' in creative mode. Except for spiders, ghasts, and silverfish.. Note: Enemies from spawners are still hostile.
Dragon Eggs. - Not in game, recently tweeted by Notch.
Baby animals in SMP.

Items

Items retain their enchantments if chest is destroyed.
Fences no longer connect to leaves.
Lily pads are no longer gray in inventory, have a tool tip.
Melons breaking into more than one piece again.
Fixed fence "hitboxes".
Balancing of enchantments.
Find 'iron' gear in strongholds.
Silk touch does not work on spawners.
Game Crashing piston glitch fixed.
Eye of Ender now points directly to the Ender Portal.

Controls

Camera rotation
I, J, K, L, N, and M control where your looking (I,J,K,L are up down left & right, N and M are rotations)
F9 Adds a fixed camera angle. ( You can move this with I, J, K, and L)
M+N resets the view. *Important*
H and Y are the zoom controls
H + Y together resets the zoom
F9 locks your view
Tweet from Jeb_ (As you know I always forget at least one thing when upload a release... The "camera controls" (F6 etc) are not supposed to be there =/) So..don't get your hopes up. Though these features are really nice for everyone..except the flying in survival mode.
Toggle fly with F6. Survival mode.
You receive a warning when changing render distance to far only if you're not running Java x64.
Option to turn off clouds in the video menu.

Textures/Liquid Movement Mechanics

Texture Tweeks
Gravel
Glowstone
Monster Spawners
Iron Block
Wood Planks
Grass
Water
New Water Physics for vertical movement.
Water is back the way it was before pre4, plus:

Water can be placed in water again.
"End Stone" (from The End) and "Mycelium" from the Mushroom biome!

Lava can be made infinite by digging 1 square down, and making a "plus" sign - 5 squares total. Fill the outsides with lava.

Thanks to Arbitror for the gif.

Misc.

Lighting is different. Colors are now better matched with the color of the light source.
Longer reach for fighting mobs.
Creative mode - logging back in will no longer make you 'fall' from falling.
Player bow draw-back animation improved.
Range of attack distance in creative has Reports of better FPS.
Balancing of enchantments.
New Achievements
DIAMONDS! - Acquire diamonds with your iron tools.
Enchanter - Use a book, obsidian and diamonds to cunstruct an enchantment table.
Librarian - Build some bookshelves to improve your enchantment table.
Overkill - Deal eight hearts of damage in a single hit.
We Need to Go Deeper - Going through a portal to the Nether.
Return to Sender - Destroy a Ghast with a fireball.
Into Fire - Relieve a Blaze of its rod.
Local Brewery - Brew a potion.
The End? - Locate the End.
The End. - Defeat the Ender Dragon.
Villages now have small fenced off patches of dirt with either wheat or tall grass growing in them, connected to the houses.
Light glitch on stairs fixed.
Jumping makes you lose xp points. Bug for some?[/color]

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 4[/color]

Posts on part 4 start at #1484

Twitch released the change-log for part 4 here.

[color="#000000"][color="#000000"]Misc.[/color]

Moon/Sun are round. Moon has phases. Direction of sunrise/set has changed.
Glistering Melon added. Crafted with Melon and Gold Nugget. Non-edible.
Cutting up melon gives you 1 melon slice. Bug.
Glistering melon can be used for initiating brewing.
Villages a lot more common? Need more info on this.
Endermen seem to be stronger.
Water freezes faster.
The potion of swiftness now leaves a visible effect on the player.
Signs can be rotated easier.
You can attack/kill mobs through glass.
Supports HD Texture packs. Press F3+T to reload the texture pack.
Pig spawners are an obtainable block now. Just use the silk touch enchantment on any mob spawner and it gives you a pig one.
Mobs CAN spawn on glass. Bug?
You can place Water on Water like Stone on Stone now.
You can't throw Water into Water any more.
Walking through webs is faster. Unconfirmed.

Strongholds

Strongholds contain more chests.
Enderpearls can be found in stronghold chests.
Toss "Ender Eye" into sky to find location of strongholds.
New texture for the placeholders on the portal. No longer 'crystal'.

The End/Ender

"The End" is the new realm.
Cannot leave. You will have to die
Hard to leave "The End in creative mode.
Dragons are not available yet. You can get them via hacking above.
Ground breaks into cobblestone.
From Jeb: The exit from "The End" is the end. Then you respawn.
Obsidian pillars.
Enderdragons skins exist.
Experience orbs are black.
Cannot build Netherportals in "The End".
Use Eye of Ender on the 'portals' in the strongholds.
Maps in the End are blank.
Large floating island.
Beds explode.
Water is place-able.
You'll have to generate a new stronghold with a pre4 map in order for the portal to work without hacking.

Potions

All potions with gunpowder = Splash Potions. Throw-able. Works with all potions. Putting them in dispensers are fun.

Quote from Dima~Cheveyo_On_Post_1795 »

Potion of Regeneration

Potion of Strength

Potion of Swiftness

Potion of Fire Resistance

Potion of Poison

Potion of Weakness

Potion of Slowness

'Sharpness I' enchanted sword

'Bane of Arthropods' effect

[color="#000000"]Enchantments[/color]

There is a chance you get multiple effects when you enchant items.
Enchantment Table now has a tooltip name on creative mode.
Enchanted levels are 1-7. Adding bookshelves gets you more and more 'higher' levels. So far the report is up to 1-50.
Enchantments now have names.

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[color="#000000"]Weapons[/color]
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Bane of Arthropods I/II/III/IV/V - Adition damage to spiders. 0.75-1.5 hearts extra damage per level.
Sharpness I/II/III/IV/V - Addition damage to mobs. 0.5-1 heart extra damage per level.
Fire Aspect I/II - Lights mobs on fire.
Smite I/II/III/IV/V - Extra damage to zombies, zombie pigmen and skeletons.
Knockback I/II - Knocks mob and players backwards upon hit.
Looting I/II/III - Mobs have a chance to drop more loot.
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[color="#000000"]Armor[/color]
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Sword of Featherfall I/II/III/IV - Fall-down slowly, less fall damage. (Only applies to boots.)
Aqua Affinity I - Eliminates the harvest penalty of mining blocks underwater. (Only applies to the helmet.)
Projectile Protection I/II/III/IV - Protection against projectile entities (e.g arrows)
Respiration I/II/III - Underwater breathing time +15 seconds; time between suffocation damage +1 second. (Only applies to the helmet.)
Fire Protection I/II/III/IV - Protection to fire. (Lava?)
Blast Protection I/II/III/IV - Protects from explosions. Creeps & TnT.
Protection I/II/III/IV - Converts environmental damage to armor damage.
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[color="#000000"]Tools[/color]
[color="#696969"]

Pickaxe of Efficiency I/II/III/IV/V - Dig faster. +10% mining speed to each lvl.
Unbreaking I/II/III - Adds chance to ignore 'usage' of tools with each use.
Sword of Looting I - Chance for more drops.
Silk Touch I - Lets you mine blocks without breaking them. You can get glass blocks back. Efficient for glowstone mining.
Pickaxe of Fortune I/II/III - Chance of multiplying the drop rate.[/color]

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Enchanting techniques that have been found.

Most of my testing was done in creative with a diamond sword. I did some tests in survival and couldn't see anything that made me think it was much different to creative.

It's relatively easy to test. Go in creative make a floor of shelves and a roof of shelves only and test what enchant levels you can get. You still get 5 same as with just the table.

It seemed unlikely to me that adding shelves that did do something would suddenly make ones that did nothing do something. Unlikely but not impossible. Now my first thought was that possibly the algorithm to modify the enchantment level might be influenced by not only bookshelves but also by the shelves surrounding that bookshelf, but tests I made didn't seem to indicate that was so.

So far the only positions I've found that add to enchantment levels are
Layer 1

Layer 2

If there are any other positions of shelves that increase the enchantment level I've been unable to find them.

The shelves can be blocked by almost everything. I tested Ladders, torches, redstone torches, levers, buttons, trapdoors, wood & stone pressure plates, signs, redstone and repeaters and found they all block the shelves from increasing enchanting level. The only thing I found that did not block the shelves was pictures.
NB the 8 corner shelves are not blocked by the other shelves.

Lvl50 Enchantment - shadowskeeper21 post #1794

Lvl 50 Confirmation post #1718

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Thanks aXu for the following information. Post #1739

For those who want to edit your items' enchants (with NBTEdit, for example), enchants are saved in following manner:
Level.dat
Data -> Player -> Inventory -> (your item here) -> tag -> ench -> (TagCompound) ->
id: Id of enchant (list of them at wiki)
lvl: Level of enchant (too big numbers won't crash MC, but it doesn't show them in roman numbers)

You can even enchant other items than those normally enchantable. For example, I tested it with wood planks It shows the glimmering animation in inventory, but not in your hand (dunno if this applies to only blocks or all items not enchantable).

[color="#000000"]Information released after Part 3[/color]

Enderdragons (Sounds really neat when you say it). Link to topic here.

Click here for full image.

Eye of Ender is the new stronghold locator where the portal to The Ender will *probably* be. Throw it up high in the air and it will fall about 5 blocks in a new direction. Go in the direction it lands. Do this too much and it may return to The Ender.

From the looks of the following image, you have to fill it with "Ender Eyes" in order for it to activate.

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 3[/color]

Posts about Part 3 start with post number #892 for those who want to read them.

[color="#000000"]Misc.

Baby Animals! Parents seem to 'follow' babies after birth. Do not drop loot for XP. Faster animation and they eventually grow up. Baby sheep can be sheared. Grow up time seems to be 1 day.
Animals have a Cool down after breeding.
You can saddle baby pigs and ride them
Wheat bug is fixed.
FPS is better? Unconfirmed.
Number above XP bar. Level?
Silverfish Spawners in dungeons.
Snow fall breaks torches.
Breaking book shelves give you 3 books.
Mini mine spiders are 1x1 and not poisonous. Unconfirmed.
Eye of Ender. Ender Pearl + Blaze Powder. Use unknown.
Able to "eat" milk and water.
Pie chart in the F3 screen is in! (And its a circle..in minecraft! wtf..) XD

Navigate through some of the features by using the number keys, or 0 to go back.

Crystal Block.
Fishing Rods can be enchanted.
Cauldron Icon.
Color of the label of highlighted object is now purple. Inventory for example.
Swords and bows have been weakened.
Endermen do more damage. Unconfirmed.
Notch's Take on the new baby animals:

Source.

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[color="#000000"]Potions

Credit goes to: Seriousity for finding most of these. <3
Offical Potion Topic
Amazing Potion Guide!

Potion brewing stand. Step 1 is to fill them with water.
Milk Removes all effects.
Redstone increases the duration of a potion. Confirmed.
Glowstone decreases the duration of a potion and increases effectiveness. Confirmed.
Cauldrons will hold water for you. Water will "evaporate" over a period of time.

Right click with glass bottles to draw water. It makes the water level go down lightly.
Cauldrons can be moved with pistons without losing the water.
They can be fill with water buckets only. Not lava.
You can climb into them! Bathtubs and sinks are now possible.
You can walk across them.

Brewing stand is activated by putting nether wart in the upper slot. Possible use of other 'activation' items unknown.

Positive Potions

Healing Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Ghast Tear

Healing Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Ghast Tear + Glowstone Dust

Potion of Healing: Awkward Potion + Glistering Melon
Fire Resistance Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Magma Cream

Fire Resistance Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Magma Cream + Redstone

Strength Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Blaze Powder

Strength Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Blaze Powder + Redstone

Strength Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Blaze Powder + Glowstone Dust

Swiftness Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Sugar

Swiftness Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Sugar + Redstone

Swiftness Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Sugar + Glowstone Dust

Negative Potions

Poison: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Spider Eye

Weakness Potion: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Fermented Eye

Potion Of Slowness: Water Bottle + Netherwart + Sugar + Fermented Eye

Unknown Potions

Mundande Potion: Water Bottle + Redstone
Thick Potion: Water Bottle + Glowstone Dust
Awkward Potion: Water Bottle + Nether Wart

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[color="#000000"]Enchantment Tables[/color]

Animated Enchantment Table!
Pages flip randomly.
The words are suppose to be random and they are not suppose to make sense.
Break with pickaxe in order for it to 'drop'. Or you will lose it...forever.
Enchanting table is made like so:

Placing bookshelves near the enchantment tables.

[color="#000000"]Air Portals to "The Ender"[/color]

[color="#000000"]Ender Goo will be a portal to "The Ender" and will be the home to the mysterious endermen and deadly enderdragons. Confirmed by Notch.[/color] Source.

Quote from Mouzi

It's called an Air Portal in the code and you can fix it with Ender Eyes.

Doesn't seem to work as of now.
Also, disregard the obsidian, I tried flooding it with water.

Also, someone mentioned that the server now loads a third "level" so that would kind of confirm skylands. Though they have existed before and you can get to them by hacking but I don't know if Notch has changed the skylands for this update.

The sky dimension actually works like it used to work (it's been in the code for quiiite a while) but it gets overwritten by the real world terrain if you visit the real world first. The chunks are in the same folder so they get mixed up.

currently the skylands is just the normal world with different colored sky and clouds are way lower (underground with the normal terrain). The sun is always in the middle of the sky.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/l3017/minecraft_19pre3_changelog/c2pcopb

[color="#000000"]Ender Goo[/color]

Ender goo's texture is half a block or so above the physical block.
Able to physically interact with stuff, it cant be walked through (the texture can be however), and can be stood upon for a platform.
Is similar to a half step, except very very thin.
Underside has a stone texture.
Can be removed with water.
Can be burned by lava.
Ender Goo will be a portal to "The Ender" and will be the home to the mysterious endermen and deadly enderdragons. Confirmed by Notch. Source.

I say try adding this to the Air Portal and seeing what it does. ;P
New name until further notice/investigation: Ender Goo.

[color="#000000"]Images[/color]

[color="#000000"]New ID's

Items

123 - Brewing Stand
124 - Cauldron
125 - Eye of Ender

Blocks

116 - Enchantment Table
117 - Brewing Stand
118 - Cauldron

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Screenies and Information released after 1.9 Part 2 and before Part 3.

[color="#000000"]Baby Animals! It's a baby moo moo! With a....big..head!XD A few pigs are in the background[/color]

[color="#000000"]Glossy Armor - notice the sword is purple.[/color]

[color="#000000"]A circle in minecraft! Madness![/color]

[color="#000000"]Enchantment Table Interface[/color]

[color="#000000"]The letters come from the Standard Galactic Alphabet.
Well played internets, you are good. (3)
These names will be random and confusing. (7)
Each spell costs experience levels. (15)[/color]

Quote from Viktn0r

Origin
The Standard Galactic Alphabet or SGA is used in the Commander Keen series of computer games. It was created by Tom Hall, who originally just wanted to make the writing on signs in the games look futuristic or alien. Then he realised that he could create a whole alternative alphabet and add cryptic messages throughout the games.

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 2[/color]

[color="#000000"]Mobs[/color]

Animal Breeding! Use wheat to breed. Hold wheat in your hand and they all 'should' follow you. Reports of this being a bit buggy. If you hit an animal in heat, it will stop being in heat.
Snow Golems attack each other when you try to breed them. And User. Use wheat to make friendly towards you.
Endermen now take FOUR standard (non-critical) hits with a diamond sword. Zombies & Zombie pigmen 3.
Endermen now instantly teleport away from water. Agro seems to reset after this. They also dodge all arrows and do not die in the sunlight anymore. New sound effect likely to come in the official release of 1.9
Zombie Pigmen now randomly drop rotten flesh or gold bits instead of everytime.
Chickens avoid lava.

[color="#000000"]Items[/color]

Golden apples have a sparkly animation.
Golden apple also grants you Regeneration buff for 30 seconds.
Golden nuggets are officially called "Gold nuggets" now.
New Items: glass bottles, several new music discs, blaze powder, spider eyes, fermented spider eyes and magma cream. *Items uses unknown - bottles obviously for 'potions' as mentioned on twitter and not implemented yet. Possibly with official release.
Ender pearls teleports you with the cost of damage when thrown.
Ender perls do not work in MP.
Items can be repaired now, just as Notch specified - combine two damaged items to make one with more uses.
Can't get glass panes back when you break them anymore .
Pumpkins can be “crafted” into 4 Pumpkin Seeds.
Milk acts as a "clear all" for effects.

You can read all about potions HERE.

[color="#000000"]Fencing[/color]

Wood fences now connect to walls. Fences now only take up the space they appear to, as well as attaching to any solid block adjacent to them. This makes walking through diagonal-oriented fences possible.
Pressure plates on top of fence posts now make sound when you walk on them or next to them. Cannot place pressure plates on top of nether fence.
Fences can be placed like normal blocks.
Normal fences and nether fences don't connect.

[color="#000000"]Potions[/color]

Thanks Mouzi for the following information

And a list of descriptions and IDs for them. Excuse the code tag (I couldn't find a

tag).

EDIT: All possible potion potency levels seem to have I, II, III and IV but not anything over that. After that it will just say potion.potency.5 and 6 and so on.

ID Code name In-game name Description
1 moveSpeed Speed Movement speed increases, known levels: I, II and III
2 moveSlowdown Slowness Movement speed decreases, plausible levels: I, II and III
3 digSpeed Haste Mining speed increases, known levels: I, II and III
4 digSlowDown Mining Fatigue Mining speed decreases, plausible levels: I, II and III
5 damageBoost Strength Damage dealt increases, known levels: I, II and III
6 heal Instant Health Constantly heals you at a fast rate. EDIT: This actually is not meant to have a duration or has a duration of 0. Will do instant damage when you drink the potion. Known levels: I, II and III
7 harm Instant Damage Constantly damages you at a fast rate. EDIT: This actually is not meant to have a duration or has a duration of 0. Will heal instantly when you drink the potion. Known levels: I, II and III
8 jump Jump Boost Increases jump height, level I to around 1.75 blocks and level II to 2.5 blocks, known levels: I and II EDIT: Level III jumps to around 3.25 blocks and you will take a bit of fall damage and level IV to around 4 blocks.
9 confusion Nausea Screen goes wavy, makes walking difficult
10 regeneration Regeneration Regenerates health (faster) EDIT: Apparently an old effect too, this has been since 1.8
11 resistance Resistance Probably raises your armor class temporarily
12 fireResistance Fire Resistance No fire damage, you will still catch fire, you can also dive in lava (you can not drown in it either).
13 waterBreathing Water Breathing Infinite breath, bubbles still appear but will not decrease.
14 invisibility Invisibility Does not seem to do anything as of now, mobs still attack and no visual change.
15 blindness Blindness Similar to the bedrock fog, you only see black after a few blocks.
16 nightVision Night Vision Night becomes a lot brighter, does not seem to affect caves (unconfirmed).
17 hunger Hunger Old effect, known as food poisoning or disease. Decreases food bar faster.
18 weakness Weakness Opposite of strength? Damage dealt decreases.
19 poison Poison Old effect. Look up poison on minecraft wiki. Known levels: I and II

[color="#000000"]New Recipes[/color]

Quote from ihave13gp

New recipes:

1 blaze rod -> 2 blaze powder
blaze powder + slimeball -> magma cream
spider eye + brown mushroom + sugar -> fermented spider eye

[color="#000000"]Images[/color]

Example of the new fences

Blue Spider effect and drop

Giving an animal wheat will generate love hearts above its head for a short period of time.
Bring two similar animals together after they've been given food, and a few seconds later a third animal will spawn (of the same type). There aren't any baby animals though, sadly.

[color="#000000"]Misc.[/color]

Slimes also drip through the block they are above.
Hardcore Mode
Fire from lava doesn't burn you for nearly as long.
Auto-jumping has been placed back in.
New ID's for Items and CDs at the bottom of this post.
F5 is back! (Hit twice to see in first person).
Tooltips have purple edges.
Name tag "TESTIFICATE" over the villagers is gone.
Villages seem bigger.
XP Gain from jumping has been removed/fixed.
F8 cinematic mode is back
Right clicking while holding a weapon = blocking.

Quote from ihave13gp

I decompiled the minecraft.jar files to have a look at the modified health and damage of mobs:

Endermen take 20 hearts of damage and deal 3.5 hearts of damage on normal(was 2.5).
Spiders take 8 hearts of damage.
Zombies take 12 hearts of damage and deal 2 hearts of damage on normal(was 2.5).
Cave spiders take 6 hearts of damage.

TyrantWave found these prefixes in the jar:

mundane
uninteresting
bland
clear
milky
diffuse
artless
thin
awkward
flat
bulky
bungling
buttered
smooth
suave
debonair
thick
elegant
fancy
charming
dashing
refined
cordial
sparkling
potent
foul
odorless
rank
harsh
acrid
gross
stinky

Those are all classified as potion.prefix.

"potion.prefix.mundane", "potion.prefix.uninteresting", ....

This could mean these are specifically potion only, or it's more generic and could be related to enhancements to items as well. (As potion works for that too)

[color="#000000"]New ID's & Records - Part 2[/color]

New IDs

117 - Potion
118 - Glass Bottle
119 - Spider Eye
120 - Fermented Spider Eye
121 - Blaze Powder
122 - Magma Cream

New Record/CD IDs

2002 - Blocks
2003 - Chirp
2004 - Far
2005 - Mall
2006 - Mellohi
2007 - Stal
2008 - Strad
2009 - Ward
2010 - 11

[color="#8B0000"]PreRelease 1[/color]

[color="#000000"]Effects[/color]

Blocks under water/lava "drip" into cave/cavern below.
Trees on higher altitudes have less leaves.
Grass drops more seeds.
Lava flows faster.
Do not jump infinitely when holding down space bar.
Dried up river-beds in plains biome.
Animal do not breed.
Pumpking seeds are back in the chests in the dungeons!
Lots of reports of mega-oceans.
Armor values are now determined differently.
Roses are back.
Saplings drop less.

[color="#000000"]Mushroom Biomes[/color]

Mushroom biomes ARE islands.
"Infected" cows via shrooms
Shearing Mushroom Cows nets you around 2-5 (need verification on precise range) red mushrooms, and also gets you a normal cow.
According to the picture, new grass?

Quote of OgreSean

Mushroom Island: Warm biome. Frequent Rain. Somewhat Mountainous. Land base level near sea level.
Mushroom Island Shore: Warm biome. Frequent Rain. Flat land. Land base far below sea level (same as ocean.

Thus, Mushroom Island biomes actually spawn in the middle of Mushroom Island Shore biomes. However, the land for Shore biomes is underwater, which makes them appear like Oceans.

The top block for these biomes is the "mycel" block I mentioned earlier (which is not town related after all, but does play some kind of melody). No monsters, animals, or squids spawn in these biomes EXCEPT for mushroom cows.

[color="#000000"]Snow Biome[/color]

"Snow" biomes more rare.
Snowman! - Built by Two snow block then pumpkin PLACES not crafted. Not sure how to make a snowman without a pumpkin head. They fight other "bad" mobs. They drop snowballs.
Snowmen work in the Nether. (Bug? Unconfirmed.)
Snow now settles on ice.

Quote of OgreSean

Frozen Ocean: Cold biome. Occasional Rain. Somewhat Mountainous. Land base level far below sea level. No animals spawn in this biome.

Frozen River: Cold biome. Occasional Rain. Flat land. Land base level somewhat below sea level. No animals spawn in this biome.

Ice Plains: Same as Plains, except cold temperature.

Ice Mountains: Same as Extreme Hills, except cold temperature.

Have fun with the hilarity of the snowmen attacking other mobs!
Images for Part 1

[color="#000000"]Swamps[/color]

Lilly Pads - Picked up by "Punching". Place by putting next to another lilly or surface block. Lilly Pads turn grey when picked up - bug?
Darker grass - new grass texture for swamps
Darker water around the swamp area

[color="#000000"]Villages[/color]

Village Monks - 1 Priest is dressed in white
A few other skins reported - aprons and pink?
Reported that the mobs folder have 6 different textures for the villagers. (Butcher, Farmer, Librarian, priest, smith & villager).

[color="#000000"]Nether[/color]

Nether Brick
Nether Fence

Nether Stairs

Nether Stronghold - Netherholds!
Nether Slimes
"Blaze" Mob
Nether Dungeons (Same a netherholds?)
Netherwart - nether plant (A nether mushroom? Need more clarification.)
Ghasts shoot "bombs" now.

New Sounds by pigmen and ghasts (unconfirmed)
Pigman drops "Rotten Flesh" & "Gold Nugget" - 3x3 craft = Gold Ingot

Ghasts drop "Ghast Tear" - Unknown use
Blazes drop "Blaze Rod" - Unknown use.

[color="#000000"]New ID's - Part 1[/color]

[color="#000000"]New ID's[/color]

Quote from OgreSean

After decompiling the 1.9 Pre-Release minecraft.jar, here is everything I've found so far:

mn.class (Block.class)
---
New Blocks:
ID 110 - "mycel" - Apparently related to Villages, and has appearance of either grass or snow. If we had updated sounds, it would apparently play some kind of town melody when the player is nearby or when it is stepped on.
ID 111 - Water Lily
ID 112 - Nether Brick
ID 113 - Nether Fence
ID 114 - Nether Brick Stairs
ID 115 - Nether Stalk (some kind of plant that grows over soulsand and appears in nether strongholds)

ue.class (Item.class)
---
New Items:
ID 369 - Blaze Rod
ID 370 - Ghast Tear
ID 371 - "Gold Nugget"
ID 372 - Nether Stalk Seeds

wt.class (BiomeGenBase.class)
---
New Biomes
ID 10 - Frozen Ocean
ID 11 - Frozen River
ID 12 - Ice Plains
ID 13 - Ice Mountains
ID 14 - Mushroom Island
ID 15 - Mushroom Island Shore

Enderman had their spawning frequency cut in half.

vx.class (EntityList.class)
---
New Mobs
ID 13 - Small Fireball
ID 61 - Lava Slime
ID 62 - Blaze
ID 96 - Mushroom Cow
ID 97 - Snow Man
ID 120 - Villager

[color="#000000"]Click the Plus if I helped you! ---->[/color]

[color="#FF0000"]Feel free to PM me if I missed your report. Do not abuse this. I will not respond to requests for 'help' that pertain to 1.9 pre-releases.[/color]

Keep it classy.

Posted in: 1.0 Update Discussion

206

Aug 19, 2011

Hans_Lemurson posted a message on Hans Lemurson gives a Preview: Minecraft in Minecraft

You all know that joke when somebody is showing off their brand new Redstone Computer and somebody asks: "Can it run Minecraft?" You have a chuckle at how clever you are while people variously chime in "LOL" or "It's impossible numbskull!!!".

I was one of the people in the latter group, continuously annoyed by people who don't understand the orders of magnitude of difference in computing power between a Redstone Computer (they are on par with 1930's technology) and a modern computer. After a fresh session of apoplectic rage however, I began to ponder: "What sort of program could you feasibly run on a Redstone Computer that would still retain the essence of Minecraft?" And thus a dream was born.

That was 3 months ago. After months of planning and sporadic construction work, I have finally completed this great and grand project which I intend to be my "Magnum Opus". I have made "Minecraft in Minecraft", or "Mini-Minecraft".

Features:
-2D Graphics!
-8x8 Pixel Screen
-64 bits of Landscape Data
-Blinking Lights!
-Directional Control Interface
-Solid Terrain
-Gravity
-Moderate Signal Latency (4,000ms)
-Color-Coded Circuitry!

And now to show that I'm not just full of ****, I give you screenshots:

Display viewed from control-box

Here you're staring at the crazed mish-mash of all the terrain created/destroyed in my debugging attempts. Player position is not visible, since that square is currently OFF in its blink-cycle.

Display Side-View

The orange and pink lines are carrying the Vertical Position data from its register to the display. The sharp-eyed will notice that there is a torch lit on right side of the middle pink line. That's the current height of the player. I placed those torches there for debugging purposes when I was having problems with data corruption.

High view of back of Display

Light and Dark Green helixes carry new data to the Display, one Bit per column. Purple lines in the background carry the "Write" command to an individual Row to update its D Flip-Flops when a block there is placed or removed.

Guts of the machine

Here you see all the parts of the machine that do the actual calculations. Underneath the green lines is the 64 bits of RAM (the green lines are its input) that store the terrain information for calculations. In Blue at the far end are the Horizontal positional controls which both keep track of the player's horizontal position and govern interaction with blocks. The Gray stuff to the left is the circuitry needed for the "Jump" command, and underneath it is the rest of the Vertical positional controls.

Control-Bits

Here you can see 4 of the 9 Control-Bits that govern the machine. Combining "Shift Up" with "Place/Remove Block" results in the block above your current position toggling between ON and OFF. Note the long chains of Repeaters on some lines: It was necessary to introduce carefully tuned signal-delays to ensure that the Positional/Terrain actions don't happen until they have already been pointed to the right location. Getting the signal-delays synchronized like this took many hours of frustrating debugging even after I thought I was "95% done!". Well, I'm done NOW.

Wires Leading to Command Decoder

Here you see the wires from the Control-Box going down to be converted into signals sent to the Control-Bits that actually govern the machine. Pink/Orange are Down/Up and Light Blue/Teal are Left/Right. They split into 2 lines in the decoder: one for Movement, the other for Block manipulation. The Red line is in charge of triggering an extra "Move Downward" command after every action you perform in order to simulate gravity. A solid block underneath you will prevent this downward motion.

Control Panel

Here are the 5 controls that will let you move through the world. 4 directional controls and a switch to toggle between Movement and Block Placement/Removal. It's humbling to realize just how much work is required to convert a simple button-press into an executable command. It takes about 4 seconds for the effects of a button-press to be visible on the screen.

So, that's the sneak-preview of my machine.
I'm calling this a "Sneak Preview" because the real presentation is going to be the Youtube Video I'm planning on making which will show this thing in action, accompanied by mad laughter and melodrama and will get its own dedicated thread. My intention is for that video to go viral and explode the internets.

Oh, and also I'd like to give thanks to Conundromer for deciding not to beat me to completion of this project while I was on vacation, even though he probably could have if he'd set his mind to it(he's good).

If you think that "Minecraft in Minecraft" is totally awesome then feel free to +1 my Reputation. The higher it gets, the sooner my video comes out!

Edit: The video is out as of Aug 31st.
See this thread:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/590096-hans-lemurson-makes-minecraft-in-minecraft/

Posted in: Redstone Discussion and Mechanisms

4

Jul 13, 2011

Darquan posted a message on Reed growth detector.

Abstract
In this thread I present a construct for automatically detecting reed growth. Unlike cacti, reeds don't automatically break and the usual methods of farming them require either polling (periodically pushing out pistons or removing water) or manual player interaction. Here I present a fully automated mechanism which uses the block update of reeds to trigger a circuit to automatically harvest the reed once it has grown. A demo video can be viewed here

Introduction
Most automatic reed farms designed today either rely upon the player or a clock to trigger pistons to trim the reed. Especially the clock is problematic as clocks in conjunction with pistons will generate a lot of noise and causes constant redstone updates throughout your world which, when applied in great numbers, can lead to lag.
The player triggered farm will most likely remain the primary way to harvest the reeds as there is little sense in harvesting them if the player isn't there to collect them. Furthermore the reed detector is considerably larger than a plain pressure plate and therefore cannot compete in compactness.
Reed growth detectors can also be applied for other purposes like e.g. a random timer similar to Ethos . In this sense, the reed growth detector is an interesting building block by itself which might someday lead to other inventions.

Related work
The design describe here mainly relies upon two mechanics. First it utilizes liquid redirection to detect when a reed has grown. The growth of a reed causes neighbour blocks to update just like the redstone does in the original liquid redirection threads.
Secondly it utilizes the by Etho to transform this updated water flow into a redstone signal which triggers the harvesting and reset of the stream.
Finally a basic understanding of liquid physics is required. In particular how liquid prefers to flow to the nearest drop. These physics are described clearly by and the water tutorial by Etho.

The design
By combining the technique of liquid redirection with a water sensor, we can transform the growth of a reed into a redstone signal. This redstone signal has to perform two tasks. First, it needs to reset the water stream to its original position and second it needs to harvest our newly grown reed block.

Figure 1.

[i]Fully automatic reed farm (front). Left: water sensor. Right: collection point. Bottom water source allows planting reed. Top water source functions as growth detector. A pressure plate below the boat triggers a sideways attached torch which powers the wool block above it.[/i]

To create this we use a water source with two holes at opposite sides as shown in Fig. 1. The right hole is permanently opened and ensures the water doesn't scatter in all directions around the device. It also doubles as the collection point of the farm (or the connection point of a larger water channel when built in series).
The left hole is the access point to the water sensor and needs to be closed at the time the water stream is reset (and opened directly thereafter). It is important to use a distance of at least two as a single block distance will cause the water source to update whenever we open or close the second hole.
There is a total of three regular pistons in this device. The right piston trims the reed. The middle piston cuts the water stream going into the sensor and the left piston opens and closes the sensor hole.

Figure 2.

[i]The wiring at the back. Left piston cuts the reed. Middle piston stops the water stream. Right piston opens/closes the water sensor. The right piston needs to be delayed (set the repeater to the third setting).

The triggering order of the pistons is very important. When the middle piston retracts the water stream will update. At this time the water sensor piston needs to be extended to ensure that the water doesn't flow to the left. Only after this water update the water sensor piston can retract again. Fig. 2 shows how the wiring can be done.

A demo video of the working system can be viewed here. Manually placing a reed has the same effect as when it grows. To cut the video duration and save on video editing I just place the reeds manually.

Conclusion
Using the growth of a reed to redirect a water flow into a water sensor we can construct a fully automated reed farm which requires no player interaction and no clock. The relative large footprint and high amount of resources required to construct this device makes the result more theoretical than practical though it might inspire spin-off designs and/or future inventions.

[edits]

Spin-off design by CadenDonuts can be found here.
has recently independently discovered this device as well. He rightly observes that this is in fact a block update detector and has a more flexible design by having the block observer more exposed (very similar to CadenDonuts design).

[/edits]

Posted in: Redstone Discussion and Mechanisms

8

Aug 19, 2011

Weakgrip posted a message on Very small 2x2 concealable door (with video)

A friend of mine made an extremely small 2x2 concealable door on our creative server, so I went and made a video of it with him to show just how small it is.

Posted in: Redstone Discussion and Mechanisms

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