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Appamada posted a message on The Communist ThreadPosted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and ScienceQuote from redstonevet90
You just admitted that you choose to blatantly ignore any pattern and evidence that exists. That is quite unreasonable.
We have witnessed how the Communist ideology goes hand in hand with dictatorship and extreme authoritarianism by self proclaimed Communists and Socialists! There is nothing to explain. It is well documented history.
No, I'm not ignoring the pattern, I'd like you to analyze why those patterns exist. What conditions are set for Communist countries to become authoritarian dictatorships?
You are avoiding my point. Just saying "it's happened with every country" doesn't mean anything to me. How is Communism associated with dictatorships? Why? -
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Kyte314 posted a message on The Communist ThreadPosted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and ScienceQuote from redstonevet90 »
bla bla bla thats just semantics bla bla bla HAHAHAHAHAHAH! bla bla bla *fact about something with no source or reasoning provided whatsoever* bla bla bla learn ur history stupid bla bla bla ur making things up bla bla bla communism is the most evil thing in the history of teh universe and all of you should feel ashamed of urselves for not agreeing with me bla bla bla
This is enough. All you've done is ignore what the people here are trying to explain to you, find a way to insult them, over-stress your own radical opinion about how an ideology you clearly know nothing about is inherently brutal, violent, and oppressive, and clutter up my notifications list and the conversation in this thread with utter nonsense.
I've elected to just start ignoring you. -
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Theophys posted a message on The Communist ThreadPosted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and ScienceQuote from redstonevet90
It is impossible to have a government, but not have a government like you are claiming. It's an oxymoron.
We also know from history and the present that Communist regimes do in fact have governments.
What you are spreading on here is plain and simple false information and word play.
What? What the hell are you even trying to say here? No one was speaking of NOT having a government. People here are trying to tell you that there are MANY forms of government with a state being only ONE of the MANY forms of government. Communism does not lack of government, it lacks a state, at least for some people who want that.
As for your last statement, the communist societies that have existed throughout history are communist in that they adhere to the ideology of communism and identify as communists, not because they have a communist system or mode of production. Again, they had a socialist system and mode of production, not a communist one. Those communist societies had states as a governing entity, as "required" in a socialist mode of production following Marx, Engels, and Lenin's works. Marx, Engels, and Lenin's works also state that a socialist society, given the proper prerequisites, will develop into a communist society through the withering away of the state. In fact, go google "withering away of the state" and start reading because this is getting annoying.
I see that you edited your post to reply to my previous post. I'll reply to that when I come back from work. In brief: I am not counting executions, executions were barely over a few thousand or a hundred thousand IIRC throughout the entire existence of the USSR. Villages did not have their food "stolen" because of ethnicity or religion, but that may have been the case due to their allegiance to the White Army instead of the Red Army. The White Army did the same as that was during a civil war. It was even a more severe crime in the case of the White Army if we take into consideration the anti-Jewish pogroms they committed and the razing of villages, yet I do not see you running your mouth about them.
I also was not only referring to the Great Leap Forward, YOU made that conclusion on your own. |
What is beyond me is you calling them brutal dictatorships without having the slightest idea of what you're talking about. -
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Theophys posted a message on The Communist ThreadI'll try to keep this extremely brief because of time constraints.Posted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and Science
Quote from redstonevet90
Since you appear to be incapable of grasping simple terms such as semantics. Allow me to fundamentally break the conversation down for you to something that you are hopefully capable of understanding.
I said Communism gives a large amount of power to the state (the governing authority). He responded by saying that Communists do not have a state, they have a government.
I said that was semantics because in the context of the conversation, state = government (the ruling authority). That was the context in which the term "state" was used and "state" is often used as a synonym for government, or ruling authority.
You here are the one arguing semantics. The other individual was explaining to you in simple, basic English that a state is only ONE form of government and that communism pertains government but not government in the form of a state. This is something crucial that you need to understand before you even enter into the realm of politics. The other individual was correct in what he was saying, you, however, are completely wrong. There is no "context of the conversation" here where "state = government" because communism, as the other individual was arguing, does not pertain a state for there to be a "state = government" situation.
In other words: The context here, if anything, is communism. What does communism pertain? A government. Is that form of government a state? No. Then it is not a "state = government" situation. If you're trying to say that when YOU said "government" you said it as a synonym for "state" then YOU are arguing semantics, not the other individual.
If you believe that state is used as a synonym for government or ruling authority then you either:
1) Are speaking of a specific country whose government takes the form of a state and thus you have a "state = government" situation.
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2) You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should not dabble in things which you have little knowledge of, for your own reputation and others' sanity.
Quote from redstonevet90
The guy that's trying to say Hitler was crazy on another thread because he murdered 6 million Jews, supports Communism when Stalin murdered 50,000,000 - 100,000,000 of his own people during that same time period to instill his Communist ideologies and remove all resistance to it.
Mao killed even more than that.
Unbelievably ignorant on your part. Like I said you need to learn your history.
Stalin did not, by any means, kill 50 to 100 MILLION people. The estimates of the deaths even during the Great Purge are around 7 million, and that is not due to executions. See this for further information on the numbers of prisoners released, terms, sentencing, deaths, causes of death, escapees, etc. etc. directly from the Soviet archives themselves (very reliable as these were the actual records used to manage the prisons back in the days of the USSR - the numbers needed to be as accurate as possible): http://scom.freeforu...82d05a4228c0273
Mao did not kill even more than that. You are the one who should learn your history. To simply think that 50-100 million people were *killed* by Stalin and even MORE than that, on top, by Mao is ludicrous. What happened to them? Did they just vanish into thin air with no remains, records, and so on left behind?
No it doesn't. Democratic Capitalists societies elect their representatives. They have several branches of government. They don't have Dictators and they don't have business monopolies and labor camps.
The Soviets elected their representatives. The Soviets had several branches of government. The Soviets did not have dictators (Stalin et al. were all elected). They did have business monopolies and labor camps, no issue here. If you believe that all of the above are bad or evil then:
Your democratic capitalist societies have had business monopolies and labor camps in the past. Your capitalist societies have also had militaristic juntas and dictatorships. Do I even NEED to mention that your democratic capitalist societies HAD ING SLAVERY justified, instituted, and legalized? TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOR YEARS (244) or simply around 87 years of slavery IIRC. Go scratch your head on that one while you're trying to buy a history book. Good luck. -
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_Nate_Frozen_Rain_ posted a message on The Communist ThreadThanks would have been so much easier but at least you budged in the end.Posted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and Science -
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_Nate_Frozen_Rain_ posted a message on The Communist ThreadPosted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and ScienceQuote from redstonevet90
It not my fault you don't understand what "semantics" means.
I don't waste my time explaining basic concepts and the English language to people who fail to grasp it.
Okay, let's assume explaining jargon is semantics, how is that weak?
Also I would expect someone who acts like a historian and a strong opponent of communism to at least understand the jargon of it all? Kyte wouldn't have to explain them to you then.
But since he did, how is that weak? -
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_Nate_Frozen_Rain_ posted a message on The Communist ThreadPosted in: Politics, Philosophy, News and ScienceQuote from redstonevet90
Hah, stop wasting my time you're behaving ignorantly. Learn some history then maybe consider responding.
I'm not into arguing for the sake of arguing, especially with someone who knows next to nothing about history.
You never explained why explaining jargon was playing semantics, and therefor weak.
Learning history will never teach me why you think that.... unless it's your history... XD - To post a comment, please login.
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No it's socialist like Hussein Obama
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Or why schools that value their teachers and students' lives should deal with bullying instead of ignoring it.
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Therefore you don't exist, so you should stop posting
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Whats the name of your militia? Sturmabteilung
What state is it in? Weimarer Republik
What weapon(s) do you carry? Fists and Guns
What was your reason for joining a militia? To stop commies from taking over my country!
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Yeah, because servers with mature staff don't exist.
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SCoM is a place for leftists to not have to deal with retarded right-wingers kind of like how you can go to Stormfront if you want a sanctuary from rational though.