Just a random thought: Since microsoft/mojang are slowly killing servers for the sake of not annoying the player base (too) much, in their transition to a Realms monopoly, What would happen if ALL SERVERS coordinated a shutdown for at least 3 days (preferrably 5 or 7 days)? When someone tries to connect, they get a message from the server saying something like "Cannot connect! Don't like it huh...This is what will happen when Microsoft approved Mojang EULA continues to restrict our ability to generate funds to keep the server running. Support private servers by boycotting Mojang and Microsoft's unfair practices"
Literally force the issue, and see what happens when the players all understand what's going on, and (hopefully) chooses to get involved.
Again, just a random thought. I am in no way trying to incite anything illegal! Please don't pick on me again mods!
how is mojang enforcing their EULA unfair? if it wasn't for mojang, these servers wouldn't exist, and a lot of server owners wouldn't be getting rich off of mojang's intellectual property that they can most likely sue people over
You make it sound like Mojang is not making enough to spread the wealth, so to speak. I can remind you how much microsoft bought them for, if you want (sorry if that sound confrontational, I did not mean it as such). I think you are also forgetting that without the servers, mojang's little block program would not have gained the popularity it gained! it's the servers that, in a way, provided free advertising on mojang's behalf, as far as showing how versatile minecraft is, and the fun that can be had in different themed environments. So yes, if the servers get popular for having a theme players enjoy, mojang's getting free publicity, and more people are buying accounts, then the servers should be allowed to make money off of minecraft! How much depends on the popularity of their servers, but at least enough to keep their servers running!
But okay, the argument that the eula from 2014 was not being enforced, yet now it is, is a valid one. Servers had to change and adapt (and in the process lose income). NOW in the past few months they add on stuff that (and I can safely say this because the server owner I play on and moderate said as much) in previous recent emails from mojang said they would allow certain things, but now say they are not allowing and threatening with blacklisting.
There is a reason their realms are....not as popular as they would like it to be, and for their ineptitude and lack of making "enough" (considering the greed in play here I can't imagine what they consider to be "enough) money from it, they are punishing the servers slowly and steadily.
It may be their intellectual property, but they owe a LOT to the server owners and playerbase for the money lining their pockets already. They can, and should leave the servers alone now.
And just to play devil's advocate, if you believe mojang has every right to slowly kill servers with the ultimate goal to have be greedy with their realms (which are so inferior to most servers it should not need to be mentioned, but I'll mention it ;-p), then all the more reason to kill all servers, disrupting mojang's/microsoft's ultimate plans, and waking up all players to just how bad the reality of the current situation is.
If the players choose to be apathetic, then the servers will die and they will have nothing except realms. If they choose to help their servers continue to be around for years to come, then great: The servers get to live, and mojang gets to make more money from free advertisement (in the form of the servers, and players word-of-mouth to their friends), and players buying accounts.
Maybe I ranted too much and went off on tangents, but I hope i answered your point.
Just a random thought: Since microsoft/mojang are slowly killing servers for the sake of not annoying the player base (too) much, in their transition to a Realms monopoly, What would happen if ALL SERVERS coordinated a shutdown for at least 3 days (preferrably 5 or 7 days)? When someone tries to connect, they get a message from the server saying something like "Cannot connect! Don't like it huh...This is what will happen when Microsoft approved Mojang EULA continues to restrict our ability to generate funds to keep the server running. Support private servers by boycotting Mojang and Microsoft's unfair practices"
Literally force the issue, and see what happens when the players all understand what's going on, and (hopefully) chooses to get involved.
Again, just a random thought. I am in no way trying to incite anything illegal! Please don't pick on me again mods!
These people are insane how do they feel millions of children adults and teens will feel about all there favourite servers and all there donations going down the drain Mojang needs to sort themselves out and quick or some players aren't gonna stand for it and they will lose popularity!
Officially warned, got 1 point, and had my first ever post here removed. Good job me lol! Okay, 1) my apology to whoever I offended. 2) Let me see how best I can reword this so it does not trigger anyone's sensibilities this time:
The words between the ** are my attempt to edit my post so I don't get reported for profanity, while still voicing a dissenting opinion...unless that's a sin on this thread...
Those *very lovely people who are angels on this earth and can do no wrong, especially since their followers monitor this thread* at microsoft that tell mojang what to do are paid very well for a reason!
People are complaining now, in fact we've been complaining since 2014, but only recently stepped it up since microsoft's actually using their resources to force the eula down everyone's throat, including the "newer" stuff in the past few months!
BUT while people are complaining, they're still playing, and when their favorite server goes down, they complain, but try to find another server that's still operational (sometimes as a group, sometimes solo).
Their ultimate goal IS to *gently persuade (with their angelic ways of goodness, kindness, and non tolerance for dissension)* every server out there for the sake of promoting their realms and creating a monopoly, but it is in their best interest to do it slowly! If they chose to implement all of their *holier than thou, altruictic* money/power grabbing changes all at once, most of servers would be gone within a week or 2, and the rest would soon follow. THIS would have the effect of more players getting *overjoyed with their benevolent overlord masters* to the point of finding other games to play, and saying a great big collective "*(insert whatever blessing here)* YOU" to mojang AND microsoft would suffer as well, as people would choose a game that microsoft don't have their *non greedy* hands on already!
And to all you *followers of these righteous beings that can do no wrong* out there saying how mojang's not the bad guy for wanting to curb servers making money, consider this: FREEDOM OF CHOICE! *(should I remove that so I don't get reported? Mods kindly edit it out if you want, since I truly don't know if that's allowed to be typed here anymore)* If a player does not like that they have to pay to win on a server, they have the freedom to LEAVE said server and find another one...maybe even one of YOUR servers where they can play as free as they want with you footing the bill!
I just can't understand some of your opinions on this...it's like you vote for capitalism, and you don't vote for capitalism in the same breath.
*note to mods: shoud you choose to delete THIS for profanity, kindly 1)edit it to meet your wishes, without altering the message I'm trying to convey, and 2) message me how exactly I have broken your rules so I may have it documented for when I contact a higher staff member*
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You make it sound like Mojang is not making enough to spread the wealth, so to speak. I can remind you how much microsoft bought them for, if you want (sorry if that sound confrontational, I did not mean it as such). I think you are also forgetting that without the servers, mojang's little block program would not have gained the popularity it gained! it's the servers that, in a way, provided free advertising on mojang's behalf, as far as showing how versatile minecraft is, and the fun that can be had in different themed environments. So yes, if the servers get popular for having a theme players enjoy, mojang's getting free publicity, and more people are buying accounts, then the servers should be allowed to make money off of minecraft! How much depends on the popularity of their servers, but at least enough to keep their servers running!
But okay, the argument that the eula from 2014 was not being enforced, yet now it is, is a valid one. Servers had to change and adapt (and in the process lose income). NOW in the past few months they add on stuff that (and I can safely say this because the server owner I play on and moderate said as much) in previous recent emails from mojang said they would allow certain things, but now say they are not allowing and threatening with blacklisting.
There is a reason their realms are....not as popular as they would like it to be, and for their ineptitude and lack of making "enough" (considering the greed in play here I can't imagine what they consider to be "enough) money from it, they are punishing the servers slowly and steadily.
It may be their intellectual property, but they owe a LOT to the server owners and playerbase for the money lining their pockets already. They can, and should leave the servers alone now.
And just to play devil's advocate, if you believe mojang has every right to slowly kill servers with the ultimate goal to have be greedy with their realms (which are so inferior to most servers it should not need to be mentioned, but I'll mention it ;-p), then all the more reason to kill all servers, disrupting mojang's/microsoft's ultimate plans, and waking up all players to just how bad the reality of the current situation is.
If the players choose to be apathetic, then the servers will die and they will have nothing except realms. If they choose to help their servers continue to be around for years to come, then great: The servers get to live, and mojang gets to make more money from free advertisement (in the form of the servers, and players word-of-mouth to their friends), and players buying accounts.
Maybe I ranted too much and went off on tangents, but I hope i answered your point.
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Just a random thought: Since microsoft/mojang are slowly killing servers for the sake of not annoying the player base (too) much, in their transition to a Realms monopoly, What would happen if ALL SERVERS coordinated a shutdown for at least 3 days (preferrably 5 or 7 days)? When someone tries to connect, they get a message from the server saying something like "Cannot connect! Don't like it huh...This is what will happen when Microsoft approved Mojang EULA continues to restrict our ability to generate funds to keep the server running. Support private servers by boycotting Mojang and Microsoft's unfair practices"
Literally force the issue, and see what happens when the players all understand what's going on, and (hopefully) chooses to get involved.
Again, just a random thought. I am in no way trying to incite anything illegal! Please don't pick on me again mods!
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Officially warned, got 1 point, and had my first ever post here removed. Good job me lol! Okay, 1) my apology to whoever I offended. 2) Let me see how best I can reword this so it does not trigger anyone's sensibilities this time:
The words between the ** are my attempt to edit my post so I don't get reported for profanity, while still voicing a dissenting opinion...unless that's a sin on this thread...
Those *very lovely people who are angels on this earth and can do no wrong, especially since their followers monitor this thread* at microsoft that tell mojang what to do are paid very well for a reason!
People are complaining now, in fact we've been complaining since 2014, but only recently stepped it up since microsoft's actually using their resources to force the eula down everyone's throat, including the "newer" stuff in the past few months!
BUT while people are complaining, they're still playing, and when their favorite server goes down, they complain, but try to find another server that's still operational (sometimes as a group, sometimes solo).
Their ultimate goal IS to *gently persuade (with their angelic ways of goodness, kindness, and non tolerance for dissension)* every server out there for the sake of promoting their realms and creating a monopoly, but it is in their best interest to do it slowly! If they chose to implement all of their *holier than thou, altruictic* money/power grabbing changes all at once, most of servers would be gone within a week or 2, and the rest would soon follow. THIS would have the effect of more players getting *overjoyed with their benevolent overlord masters* to the point of finding other games to play, and saying a great big collective "*(insert whatever blessing here)* YOU" to mojang AND microsoft would suffer as well, as people would choose a game that microsoft don't have their *non greedy* hands on already!
And to all you *followers of these righteous beings that can do no wrong* out there saying how mojang's not the bad guy for wanting to curb servers making money, consider this: FREEDOM OF CHOICE! *(should I remove that so I don't get reported? Mods kindly edit it out if you want, since I truly don't know if that's allowed to be typed here anymore)* If a player does not like that they have to pay to win on a server, they have the freedom to LEAVE said server and find another one...maybe even one of YOUR servers where they can play as free as they want with you footing the bill!
I just can't understand some of your opinions on this...it's like you vote for capitalism, and you don't vote for capitalism in the same breath.
*note to mods: shoud you choose to delete THIS for profanity, kindly 1)edit it to meet your wishes, without altering the message I'm trying to convey, and 2) message me how exactly I have broken your rules so I may have it documented for when I contact a higher staff member*