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Aug 24, 2012

zorket posted a message on Dinner Plate: All food like cakes!

Dinner Plate

The dinner plate is a proposed item, which can turn any Minecraft food into a block, like cake!

This crafting recipe makes a green-ware plate, which is just a clay formation of a plate. It looks like this:

To turn this into a plate, smelt it in a furnace.

You get a complete plate:

Thanks to cerealkiller for the plate pictures!

Once you have a plate, you can put any food on it by right clicking it. From there, you can eat the food at your own pace, so you don't waste any!

Here are some ideas that other users have suggested:

After finishing meat, a bone will pop out.

Placing food on plates can be a way to feed animals.

After a plate is used, it probably will get dirty. So wash it in a cauldron before using it again!

Eat with silverware like a civilized human!

Maybe THAT could be made of iron!

By popular demand, bowls should be made placeable instead of plates.

Food on plates could be pushed by pistons, and output redstone comparator signals.

For smaller food items, multiple items should fit on one place, for example, cookies and carrots.

Plates are only stackable to 8! Otherwise the tower will topple over!

The amount of hunger food restores stays the same even when on a plate. So if something restores 3 bars, eating one bite will restore one bar and only 2/3 of the food will remain.

Cerealkiller made an amazing signature for this topic! Help us support by using it!

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The signature looks like this:

Another idea in mind: If you have smaller food items, like cookies or carrots, you should be able to fit multiple of them on one plate!

If you like this idea, don't forget to press the green arrow right below this post to give reputation!

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Posted in: Suggestions

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Apr 22, 2014

Cuchaz posted a message on Tall Worlds Mod - Raising the world height cap without causing lag

I'm not working on Tall Worlds Mod anymore! But Barteks2x is!

Read all about his progress here:

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2792887-cubic-chunks-mod-almost-infinite-world-height-and

I'll keep the original OP below for historical reference though.

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Next up in my series of exciting mods is the Tall Worlds Mod!

The goal is simple: Raise the height cap on the world from 256 blocks to 16,777,216 blocks, but do it without adding too much lag. Turns out that's pretty technically challenging to do, but I love a good technical challenge.

Download the mod:

Tall Worlds Mod has released a somewhat-working protoype! The core idea of cubic chunks works fairly well, but there are still lots of minor bugs that prevent seamless gameplay. You can try out the mod today if you like, but don't expect it to work with any of your other mods.

Download Tall Worlds Mod prototype

How does it work?

The first step to raising the height cap on worlds is to break up the world into pieces vertically and only load the vertical pieces when players are actually near them. Of course, Minecraft's chunk system does exactly this to break up the world horizontally, but the vertical size of the world has always been fixed at 256 blocks.

Tall Worlds Mod breaks up Minecraft's world in the vertical dimension as well. Here's an early video of the cubic chunk loading system in action, the main component of Tall Worlds Mod.

Of course, players can't travel very quickly in the horizontal directions, so chunk loading doesn't have to be very fast there. But what about players in free fall? How fast can a cubic chunk system load chunks when players are moving very quickly? This video answers that question:

The details:

Minecraft Version: 1.8.3
Modding System: Magic Mojo Mod Loader (M3L for short)

Wait... what the heck is Magic Mojo Mod Loader?

Well, building the Tall Worlds Mod required gutting and entirely replacing large portions of the Minecraft engine. Namely, the entire chunk loading system and a fair bit of the lighting system. Since these changes are rather large, there isn't much benefit to using a modding system like Forge which has essentially no APIs to help with something like this.

I'm using Tall Worlds Mod to start building the modding API for my own modding system, Magic Mojo Mod Loader, or M3L for short. You can read the justification for why we need yet another modding system here, but it means that when I eventually release M3L, you'll actually have modding API support if you wanted to do something completely insane like entirely replace the chunk loading system in Minecraft.

If you REALLY have a lot of free time, there is another thread discussing cubic-chunk type mods. It's 275 pages long at the time of this post and it's chocked full of discussion about cubic chunk ideas, particularly suggestions for how to solve "the lighting problem." I'll be honest though, I haven't read the whole thread.

Need more room to talk? Try the offiicial Tall Worlds Mod Forums:

http://www.cuchazinteractive.com/forums/

I think we're starting to outgrow a single thread for discussing Tall Worlds. In a huge thread, sometimes good suggestions get lost. If you feel like you want more room to talk, or a place to put your suggestions so people can actually find them later, header over to the dedicated forums.

Development Status: Backburner'd!

I'm taking a break from working on Tall Worlds for a while.

All of the fun technical challenges have been solved and all that's left to do is a massive amount of tedious cleanup work. This is a hobby project. I'm going to enjoy doing the fun bits, but there's no reason I need to slog through all the tedious bits. The tedious work left to do includes things like finding all the places in vanilla Minecraft that broke because of the new engine changes and trying to add compatibility with every modded thing ever imagined.

The only reason to do boring work is if someone is paying a decent wage, and that's definitely not the case here. I ran a poll for about a month asking if players would donate to a Patreon. The answer was very clear: the donations wouldn't come anywhere close to paying a decent wage, or even make a dent in my rent payments.

I general, I think making massive changes to Minecraft's core game engine and seeing them through into a finished product is far larger in scope than any one person can really do for hobby without getting seriously burned out. I put up a prototype mod to show the idea actually works, but I don't really have any interest in turning it into a finished product. Perhaps it's up to Mojang now to decide if they want cubic chunks or not, but it's just too much work for a single unpaid modder.

The entire project is open source of course. Contributions are always welcome from other modders. None of this technology is disappearing any time soon, it's just going to start gathering dust.

In the meantime, I'm going to focus all of my energy into my Ships Mod and make that mod the best mod it can be.

Since I'm no longer splitting my time among too many projects, I should be able to make some real progress, so look forward to some exciting new features there!

All mods by Cuchaz:

Ships Mod
Power Tools
Tall Worlds Mod

Posted in: WIP Mods

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Dec 17, 2016

Kye_Duo posted a message on Smart Moving

Quote from TooDAMNMuch »

wishful thinking, but untrue:

that's 4 months idle.

lack of forum activity =/= lack of modding activity.

Posted in: Minecraft Mods

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Dec 27, 2013

bilde2910 posted a message on Mods FAQ and security considerations

Frequently asked questions

Welcome to my FAQ for downloading and installing mods! I hope you like it

Table of contents:

If you have any questions not covered by this FAQ, feel free to ask!

How do I search for a mod I want to download?

Look around in this forum for the thread belonging to the mod you want to install. If you can't find it, I suggest you google the name of the mod. For example, google "TooManyItems". You can also check out tutorials and reviews for the mod on YouTube; those often have download links in their descriptions. If you're googling mods, ensure you get to the right site - most likely the mod has a Minecraft Forums topic, PlanetMinecraft page or CurseForge page. If it appears in the search results, click your way to it. It should look something like this:

Notice how it says below the title in green text, "www.minecraftforum.net". This lets you know that the mod page is on Minecraft Forums, a trusted site for mod downloads. Make sure you follow the guidelines in the security section to keep your computer free of viruses.

How do I download mods from Minecraft Forums?

Once you've found the Minecraft Forums topic containing the mod, look for a "Downloads" section on the first post. Once you've found it, ensure you're downloading the mod for the correct version of Minecraft. Here's a look from the TooManyItems downloads section:

You'll see there are several versions to select from. The first thing you'll have to ask yourself is: which version of Minecraft am I using? When you play Minecraft, this will always show in the bottom right corner of the main menu:

In this case, I'm using Minecraft 1.7.2. If we look back at the TooManyItems' downloads section, we'll see that a 1.7.2 version is available, titled "For 1.7.2 non-Forge version". Click on it. You'll end up on a page with a blue bar up top titled "adf.ly" - please see the next question for a short introduction to what this is.

What is AdFly?

In the previous question, when I told you to click on the download link, you were sent to a page titled "adf.ly". You're probably wondering what this is, and how you deal with it.

First of all, I wouldn't recommend staying on an AdFly page a second longer than necessary, so I'll show you how to get past it so you can download your mod. Look in the top right corner of the page, on the blue bar. There will most likely be a countdown. Once it's completed, press the green or yellow "Skip ad" button in the top right corner.

But what is actually AdFly? AdFly is a link shortening service that, in addition to shortening links, gives link-makers money for people clicking on their links. For every 1000 clicks a link receives, the author of said link gets US$ 4.00 in revenue. Many mod makers uses AdFly to try and earn money for free through people downloading their content. Many mod authors prefer to use Curse, or have their own sites, for claiming ad revenue for their mods, while others do not put any advertisements on their downloads or sites at all. Several modders also use AdFly in addition to Curse or a personal website.

You're probably wondering why I told you to get off AdFly as soon as possible. The reason is the ads served through AdFly may in rare cases contain malicious scripts, which could potentially infect your computer with a virus or a trojan. You can read more about this in the security considerations section further down on this page.

What is Forge?

Minecraft Forge, often just called Forge, is a mod loader for Minecraft. It's fair to say that most mods use Forge to function. Mods using Forge have the major advantage of ease of installation - installing Forge mods is nothing more complicated than a simple drag-and-drop between two folders. Mods not using any mod loaders are called vanilla mods - they don't taste like vanilla, the term refers to the mods just being plain. These mods are much harder to install than Forge mods. It's worth noting that Minecraft Forge has very limited documentation, which can make troubleshooting difficult.

Forums user Botjoe helpfully recommends using separate profiles and game directories if you are playing with different versions of Forge. Please see the section on game directories for more help regarding this.

Minecraft Forge can be downloaded from http://files.minecraftforge.net/.

What is LiteLoader?

LiteLoader is a mod loader similar to Minecraft Forge, but is much smaller and provides more basic support. Mods for LiteLoader are as easy to install as mods for Forge - a simple drag and drop between folders. LiteLoader is not used by very many mods, and some loaders are now unsupported.

LiteLoader can be downloaded from http://www.minecraft.../topic/1868280-.

How do I install Forge?

To install Forge, you should head over to the Minecraft Forge download page, linked above. Choose the Installer option for the Recommended release:

Run the installer when it's been downloaded. When the installer opens, you'll see a menu with three options: "Install client", "Install server" and "Extract". Select the "Install client" option and press OK. Forge will now install itself.

How do I install LiteLoader?

To install LiteLoader, head over to the LiteLoader forum topic (linked above) and look for the download section. Download the installer and run it. The installer will open with a few options; "Install LiteLoader" and "Extract LiteLoader". Select the "Install LiteLoader" option. If you also have Forge installed, check the "Chain to Minecraft Forge" checkbox and press OK to install.

How do I install Forge and LiteLoader mods?

Both Forge mods and LiteLoader mods are installed in the same way:

Start by downloading and installing Forge/LiteLoader (see above).
Download the mod you want to install.
Then, navigate to your .minecraft folder. (See further down on the page for a guide.) (Note that it is possible to use different folders for modded Minecraft - please see the game directories section for more help on this.)
Look for a folder named "mods". If there is no folder named mods, create it.
Copy the mod you downloaded into the mods folder.

To play Minecraft with the mods installed, select the Forge or LiteLoader profile in the bottom left corner of the Minecraft launcher, then press play.

How do I install vanilla mods?

Installing vanilla mods is difficult if you don't know how.

Start by downloading the mod you want to install.
Then, navigate to your .minecraft folder. (See further down on the page for a guide.)
Open up the "versions" subfolder and find the folder with the Minecraft version you're installing the mod for. Ensure you select the right folder!
Make a copy of this folder and name it something like "1.7.2_mods" (I'm using Minecraft 1.7.2, hence 1.7.2 in the name). Try not to use spaces in the name.
Open the folder you just created and rename the two files inside in the same way you renamed the folder: 1.7.2_mods (it must be the name you chose). Do not remove the .json ending on the file that ends with .json! The two files should now look something like this:

Open the file that ends with ".json" in Notepad or Notepad++.
Look for a line near the top starting with "id":

Save the file and exit.
If you're on Mac or Linux, you can skip this step. Download and install 7-zip or WinRAR (I prefer 7-zip - it's free!).
Open the file that does not end in ".json" with 7-zip or WinRAR. If you're using Mac or Linux, use your system's archive manager to open the file.
Open the mod zip file you downloaded using the same program (7-zip, WinRAR or the system archive manager).
Select all the files in the mod ZIP file by pressing Ctrl+A. Then drag them over to the 1.7.2_mods file.

Delete the folder META-INF, with all contents, from the 1.7.2_mods window.
Close both windows.
Open the Minecraft launcher.
In the bottom left corner of the launcher, press the New profile button.
Name the profile "1.7.2 mods" (or something else descriptive).
Select "release 1.7.2_mods" from the "Use version" drop down box.
Press Save profile.

To play Minecraft with the mod(s) installed, simply select the "1.7.2 mods" profile in the bottom left corner of the launcher, and press Play.

How do I install vanilla mods in Minecraft Forge?

You may have thought that following the procedure above would've worked, but if you do it with Forge specifically, Minecraft will crash. Here's how you do it.

Start by downloading and installing Forge (see above), if you haven't already.
Download the mod you want to install.
Then, navigate to your .minecraft folder. (See further down on the page for a guide.)
Open the versions subfolder, and look for the Forge directory.
Follow steps 9 through 15 in the Installing vanilla mods section just above this one.
In the bottom left corner of the launcher, press the Edit profile button.
Check the box labeled "JVM arguments".
Enter the following in the JVM arguments box:

-Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true

Save and close the profile.
Play Minecraft! Your mods should now be installed on top of Forge.

Please be aware that when installing vanilla mods in Forge, you'll likely overwrite some of Forge's functionality. This could cause mod conflicts and crashes that would usually not appear in a healthy Forge installation.

How do I find my .minecraft folder?

There are three ways to find the .minecraft folder:

Method 1: Via resource packs menu

Open the Minecraft launcher and play the game.
Go to the Resource packs menu.
Press the "Open resource packs folder" button.
Go up one level.

Method 2: Finding it manually

On Windows: Press Windows+R, type the following:

%appdata%\.minecraft

and press Enter.

On Mac: Navigate to ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft. This is your .minecraft folder.

On Linux: Navigate to ~/.minecraft. This is your .minecraft folder.

Method 3: Using the launcher (recommended!)

Open the Minecraft launcher.
Click on the "Edit profile" button in the bottom left corner of the launcher window.
Click on "Open Game Dir" in the bottom right of the window that appears.

Can I use another folder than .minecraft for my game data?

Absolutely! If you want to put your game files in another folder, then, in the Minecraft launcher, click on the Edit profile button in the bottom left corner. Check the box next to "Game Directory" and insert the full path to where you want your game files (mods, saves, screenshots, resource packs etc.) stored. Click on Save Profile when you're done.

Note: You may have to move your existing "saves", "mods", "screenshots", "resourcepacks" and other relevant folders from .minecraft to the new directory you've chosen if you have already played with .minecraft as your game directory previously.

Forums user Botjoe helpfully informs that using multiple different game profiles with different game directories can be very useful if you like to switch between multiple versions of modded Minecraft, or different collections of mods. For instance, having one game directory called something like "FTBInfinity" and another called "The1.7.10Pack" for each of those modpacks will stop you from accidentally loading the wrong world in the wrong modpack, corrupting the world. If multiple players play on the same computer, changing game directories can also be useful to ensure that the players do not play on each other's worlds by accident.

Important: What should I watch out for when I download mods?

There are a lot of traps that are easy to end up caught in when downloading mods:

Never download any mods without having an anti-virus enabled.

Never run EXE files claiming to be mod installers.

VirusTotal

Only run installers for mods you have used before and trust, and only run them if the installer was made by the mod creator himself.
Do not run installers for any mod if the uploader has few posts and/or very few mods exist for the targeted Minecraft version.
Topics on Minecraft Forums with positive feedback from other forum users are probably trustworthy.

Also beware of which sites you download mods from. Always download from the official download page. The sites listed below are well-known mod hosting or linking sites which can be trusted, except if the above criteria make you worry (i.e. executable files have been seen on these forums, although very rarely, and in those cases, be extra careful).

http://www.minecraftforum.net/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/
http://minecraft.curseforge.com/
https://mods.io/
http://bot.notenoughmods.com/
http://modlist.mcf.li/
http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft

If the mod's official topic or page links to another domain for downloading, chances are that it's safe to download.

If the site you are downloading from is on this list (link) , do not download. The sites listed there are known for stealing mods from the original authors and may even be infected with malware and viruses.

Will mods work even if they're not made for my Minecraft version?

The simple answer is no. The reason why is because Minecraft's source code is encoded. Minecraft is encoded through obfuscation; that is changing human readable names of things into seemingly random series of letters, like "Minecraft" may be changed to "azd" and "GuiNewChat" into "bav". In mods' raw source code, there are references to these obfuscated names. The problem is that these names change over time - there are new names for everything with every new release.

If the mod source code references "bav", it would correctly reference "GuiNewChat" (the chat window) in the Minecraft version it's designed for. However, because the obfuscation pattern changes between each release, in another Minecraft version it might reference "GuiButton" instead (Minecraft buttons). This causes problems because the mod's source code doesn't automatically detect that it's referencing the wrong thing.

If you frequently play different Minecraft versions, it's recommended that you separate their game directories so that you do not accidentally load the wrong Minecraft world into a different version of the game.

What is MCP, and why is it so important?

MCP is short for Mod Coder Pack. What this does is help mod developers develop mods for Minecraft easily. If you look at the question above this, you'll see that the Minecraft source code is obfuscated. Developing mods without MCP isn't impossible, rather very difficult, and few want to do that work. What MCP does is that it acts like a translator, translating the meaningless, obfuscated names in the source code and turns them into names modders can understand.

MCP is also the tool that decompiles Minecraft. In terms of software, decompiling is reverse engineering - it is turning the actual program back into source code form. Modding compiled code directly is probably the toughest form of programming there is - compiled Java code is called bytecode, and bytecode is simply a long series of bytes. An example of bytes could be "�ˣ�#M6u�" - now that isn't proper Java bytecode, but is what one could expect from looking at raw class files if opened in Notepad. Being able to understand that and edit it is a huge feat in itself. MCP also does the work of recompiling the decompiled source code back to bytecode form, so Java can understand it.

MCP is written in Python, and is being developed by Searge, ProfMobius, IngisKahn, Fesh0r, ZeuX and R4wk. The community also contributes mappings from obfuscated names to human readable names for MCP. Their official website is http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/.

Why can't mod authors avoid using the Mod Coder Pack and Forge, to update faster?

Originally posted by bilde2910 here.

Modding without MCP, Forge, etc. is, to put it short, extremely difficult. Mainly because the Minecraft source is encoded, and while you can mod in this encoded source, few want to put forth any effort to try doing so. Minecraft is encoded through obfuscation; that is changing human readable names of things into seemingly random series of letters, like "Minecraft" may be changed to "azd" and "GuiNewChat" into "bao". You may be thinking that it shouldn't be too difficult to learn these names, or at least the most important ones, and indeed, I pulled those two names of the top of my head simply because I've worked a lot of them. If I want to access the Minecraft data directory (.minecraft), I know I should look for "azd.w," which translates to "Minecraft.mcDataDir".

Learning a few is easy enough. Learning many (like, how to render text on screen, adding textures to blocks, making interactive GUIs, etc.) is a whole other story. De-obfuscating the source code is like translating a text from one language to another. Learning some words is easy, learning many is hard. And this is where MCP comes in. MCP is short for Mod Coder Pack, and functions much the same way as an automated translator. It de-obfuscates everything for you, and as an added bonus; from 1.7.2 and on it also categorizes the code for you, based on what purpose each code file serves. To use a metaphor for this, I could say that it picks up a pile of 1000+ Latin documents from the floor, translates everything to English before sorting it similarly to like in an archive. This lets you have something that translates Latin to English, so you can work on it, and then back again to Latin when you're done, instead if you having to learn Latin to perform corrections in the documents.

There's also another, very good reason to not learn the obfuscated language yourself. Between the Minecraft versions, the obfuscation changes, so you'll have to learn what everything does all over again. If the new pile of documents is in Afrikaans, I doubt you'd want to learn that new language when you know you're going to get your hands on a translator to do the job for you in not too long time.

If you wonder where Forge comes in play, I'm coming to that now. Forge is a so-called API. API stands for Application Programming Interface, and as you may guess from its name, it's used to make programming easier by providing a set of functions to take use of. One such function would be adding a block, or a dimension, or a mob to the game. It allows the mod to add things in a very easy way and with much less messy code than it would have to if it was to add blocks without Forge. It also allows putting all the code for adding things into a single class file, meaning it is easier for the developer to keep track of what he's doing. In vanilla Minecraft, not only would he need to use multiple files, he also needs to keep track of which class files he's modifying.

Another very neat function of Forge is that it lets you use many (up to hundreds) of mods at the same time without either one conflicting with each other. If you had several block adding vanilla mods, they all probably would need to edit the block registry file. As the code of multiple mods can't easily be merged together, only one mod would work and most likely the game would also crash. Finally, there's another reason to use Forge above vanilla mods. There used to be plenty of vanilla mods up until Minecraft 1.6. From there on, the game required a whole new launcher to play properly, and this launcher introduced a new way of keeping track of the Minecraft versions. Installing mods was no longer as straight forward as putting the class files in a jar file and deleting a folder. Now, you had to make copies of the Minecraft version you needed, actually change something in a code file and add a new profile to the launcher. Forge mods still just have to be dropped into the mods folder in .minecraft.

How do I solve ID conflicts in Forge 1.6.4 (or earlier) mods?

Originally posted by MCforfreeuser here and modified to fix some mistakes.

After installing a new mod, you might have some ID conflict. Your added block might do something different or crash when you interact with it. It may also crash directly at the Mojang screen. You might even see a mob doing something another mob should've done (this is rare, and when it happens you rarely can fix it). All these types of behavior are caused by ID conflicts.

Everything in the world of Minecraft has an ID. Blocks have, items have, entities have too. At the Mojang screen, Forge creates a list of those IDs from the game and the mods. If two things have the same ID, Forge will crash because it doesn't know what to do. If it is an item ID conflict, Forge simply overwrites the block. If it is a block ID conflict, it crashes at the Mojang screen. If it is an entity ID conflict, Forge overwrites the mob.

You can scan for ID conflict by opening the log file which name is 'ForgeModLoader-client-0.log', located in the .minecraft folder. You can open it using Notepad, or another text editor. Then, use the find function by pressing Ctrl+F. Fill the 'Find' box with 'conflict'. Do the search. You may find some. It will look like this:

2014-01-19 18:12:58 [INFO] [STDOUT] CONFLICT @ 1269 item slot already occupied by net.minecraft.item.ItemBlock@f5b91 while adding org.millenaire.common.block.BlockDecorativeSlab$ItemDecorativeSlab@44bfe9
2014-01-19 18:12:58 [INFO] [fml.ItemTracker] The mod millenaire is overwriting existing item at 1525 (org.millenaire.common.block.BlockDecorativeSlab from millenaire) with org.millenaire.common.block.BlockDecorativeSlab$ItemDecorativeSlab

You can see that Forge overwrites the blocks. If they were items, you would find a crash report after the above lines.

To fix it, go to 'config' folder and find the questioned mod's config file. Look for the numbers above (in this case, 1269). Change it to something else. However, the ID lists have limits - if you put an ID outside the limit, the game crashes. Block ID limit is 128-4095, item ID limit is 128-65535. Also, ensure you don't choose any ID listed on this Minecraft Wiki page, as those are reserved by the game itself (things like gold ore, enchanting table, dirt, etc.). After you change the number, save and exit the config. Run the game again. If it still conflicts, repeat the process.

Mods should start using IDs from 256 and higher, to prevent problems with Minecraft itself. Mods for Minecraft 1.7 and above do not typically suffer from ID conflict issues.

What are IDs, and what are they used for?

In Minecraft terms, IDs are unique numbers or letters used by the game to identify blocks, items, mobs, dimensions and other things. Think of them as barcodes on cardboard boxes: All the boxes look the same, but whatever is inside them varies. So how would you know what's inside? You could place barcodes on the boxes. Scan the barcode, and you'll know what's inside the box. That's pretty much exactly what Minecraft does. The game finds what seems to be some kind of block, and then it scans its ID and figures out that "hey, that's a grass block".

IDs in Minecraft consist of numbers and letters. From Minecraft was released in 2009, the game used numbers to keep track of what things were. Everything from 0-255 was a block, everything from 256-65535 was an item. Dimensions had their own system, 0 representing the overworld, -1 the Nether, and 1 the End. Monsters and animals shared their own system too. This system was used until the release of Minecraft 1.7. From that version and on, blocks and items weren't referred to by numbers, but by actual names. Gold ore, for instance, used to have the ID '14', but this was changed to 'minecraft:gold_ore'. Air, which counts as a block, used to have the ID '0', but this was changed to 'minecraft:air'. Not only did this make it easier for people to remember the IDs of things, it also made it possible to install mods without having the notorious ID conflicts.

The mod I installed crashes my game! What should I do?

What to do in this case depends on what kind of mod that's crashing. If we're speaking of a Forge mod, then first of all ensure there are no ID conflicts. You can identify ID conflicts and fix them by looking in the solving ID conflicts section. If it's a vanilla mod (one you install straight into the Minecraft jar, ensure you've deleted the META-INF folder in the jar file and that you carefully followed the instructions in the installing vanilla mods section. If you're confident that you've done it right, then check the following:

The version of the mod you're installing must correspond to the Minecraft version you're playing.
You must have installed all dependencies (like Forge, and various other mods) required for the mod to work.

If you're sure about this too, you should report the crash to the mod developer. For more information on how to submit a useful crash report, please see the next section. Remember that there is no way a mod developer can fix a bug if there is no one around to tell him that said bug even exists at all.

How do I report a crash in a useful way?

If your game crashes, you'll be returned to the Minecraft launcher. There should be a crash report visible in it. One important thing to remember is to include this in your post. Posting this in plain text on your post will take up a lot of space, so it is highly recommended that you wrap it in spoiler tags. How, you ask? Well, in your forum post, follow this template:

YOUR CRASH REPORT HERE

This will display a small rectangular bar with a Show button above, so people can check out your crash without it covering the entire page automatically.

If there, for some reason, are no crash reports, go to the Developer Console tab of the launcher and paste that in instead.

Another thing you should (must) post is what triggered the crash. What were you doing prior to the crash? Did you craft a block using red sand and compressed iron ore on a green crafting table, and after that, you placed it on the ground and broke it with an obsidian pickaxe? If so, then say so. There are often several ways for a specific thing to happen, but there may well be only one specific scenario where a crash occurs. The developer will figure out if it only happens with the procedure you gave him, or if it's a generic crash that happens with, say, any kind of pickaxe.

When the developer responds: If he is asking of you more information, then give him that information. Don't just tell him that "no it just doesn't work pls fix!!!!" because that won't help him at all. I don't have time to explain everything a developer needs to fix a bug, but if you're interested, I'd highly suggest giving this page a read-through: http://www.chiark.gr...atham/bugs.html

How do I downgrade Minecraft?

In the Minecraft Launcher, look in the bottom left for the profile selector. Press New Profile. Name the profile to something understandable (like, "1.6.4"). Then, select the preferred Minecraft version from the Minecraft Version dropdown. Save the profile. Whenever you want to play this version, simply select the version from the profile selector and hit Play.

Warning: Do not play worlds you created in a newer version of Minecraft when you play an old version. Doing this will cause serious problems and may result in unfixable damage to your entire map. This will cause you to permanently lose all your work. Playing newer Minecraft version maps in older versions of Minecraft may also cause the game to crash. If you frequently play different versions of Minecraft, consider setting up different profiles in the launcher that use different game directories, so that the worlds from one version cannot be accidentally loaded into another version of the game.

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Jan 29, 2016

GerbilCrab475 posted a message on Sprinting/Jumping/Skipping?

It should keep the speed boost since it's for jumping over large gaps. But only the first jump during a sprint will get the boost. All other consecutive jumps will not get it until the player stops moving. Then they can perform another boost jump during their next sprint. A much better fix in my opinion.

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Dec 27, 2015

Nutimalist posted a message on The Jeb who stole Minecraft

Don't worry, no one's forcing you to update.

And that being said, please don't post this thread ever again.

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Feb 26, 2013

Calacbolg posted a message on Cubic Chunks: Reduced lag, infinite height, and more [The #1 Suggestion Thread of all time!][Updated! 6/14]

This system will not increase lag! The entire point of this system is to avoid the lag caused by higher height limits.

Table of Contents:

Overview

The benefits
The features
The disadvantages
The problems

Changes in how things work

Data storage
Changes to world features
Coping with sunlight
Changes to servers
Render/Load distance alterations

Frequently Asked Questions
[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod!
Gallery
Supporting this suggestion
Special thanks

[spoiler=Tl:dr]Q: Won't this increase lag?
A: Absolutely not. The title of this suggestion and big red letters at the top of this post aren't lying. If you want to know how, then I suggest you actually read this post.

Q: Will this change terrain? Will this break existing worlds?
A: No. Terrain change is not necessary. Existing worlds can be converted fairly easily with a process described later in this post.

Q: How can sunlight or rain work with infinite vertical space?
A: I suggest you read Coping with sunlight, because it's too complex for a tl;dr.

Q: I have a different question but still don't feel like reading this post. What do I do?
A: Too bad, read the FAQ. I put way too much work into this for the entirety of it to be ignored.[/spoiler]

Overview:

In Minecraft, the sky is the limit - literally. It doesn't matter how many thousands of blocks a player has traveled, or what dimension they're in, or even if they're playing in creative or survival, the highest they can ever build is up to a height of 256. Why is that? If Minecraft can have a world that's infinite in the north, in the south, in the east, and in the west, why can't that world be infinite up and down too?

In Minecraft's earliest days, in Classic and Indev, the world was not infinite in any direction. This was because the entire world needed to be generated at the same time, and the entire world needed to be simulated at the same time as well. This led to a conundrum - the bigger the world, the more it lagged.
Notch didn't like this. He knew his players liked to explore and build large creations, so he found a way to make the world truly infinite. When the Minecraft '' class='bbc'>Infdev came out, it brought with it truly infinite worlds. Suddenly, players could travel hundreds of thousands of blocks in any direction, and never encounter a barrier, or become too laggy.
The Infdev update brought about a very large change to Minecraft worlds to accomplish this feat. For the first time, instead every world being just a single huge piece, they were broken up into a two-dimensional grid of pieces, called chunks. Through breaking the world up into pieces, this 'chunk system' enabled infinite worlds by letting Minecraft create new pieces and simulate them only when it needs to.

Why does that not apply to the vertical axis? Because the type of 'chunk system' Minecraft uses right now is a linear one, which, by using only a two-dimensional grid to map out chunks, means that it is impossible for chunks to stack on top of one another, and by extension, meaning that a single chunk must cover the entire vertical space. This brings back the problem that the Infdev update was supposed to eradicate, now only with chunks, instead of an entire world; the bigger a chunk is, the more laggy it is. You can't just increase the height limit and make chunks taller, because it will become laggier, and laggier, and laggier to do it.
That's why, to fix this, Minecraft must change over to a cubic chunk system. Under this system, 16³ block chunks are aligned on a three-dimensional grid, completely eliminating maximum height as an aspect of lag.

The immediate benefits:
•Minecraft worlds become as virtually infinite vertically as they are horizontally: The absolute limit being Y = ±30,000,000.
•A large FPS increase: Alpha testers report an FPS increase of 100~200%.
•Increase in running capability: Computers running Minecraft on Tiny render distance will handle only 30% the blocks they do now.

The possible features:
•Spherical render/load distance: Reduce handled blocks by up to 30% by cutting corners made of unneeded chunks.
•Server chunk occlusion/exclusion: Reduce bandwidth usage and defeat hackers by only sending data for visible chunks.
•Three-dimensional biomes: Save biome data per chunk rather than per block column, create volcanoes with magma chambers, underground rivers, tropical skylands floating over icy taigas, and more.

The disadvantages:
•Unloaded gravity-pause: Falling non-player entities and fluids will be forced to pause their fall if they reach unloaded chunks, but will resume falling when those chunks are loaded.
•Slow falling-pause: Players with slower computers and smaller render distances will have falling occasionally paused as they fall into unloaded chunks, until new chunks can be loaded.

The problems:
•Current sunlight and rain calculation methods cannot work with infinite vertical space: The solution to this is described here.
•Current BiomeDecorator cannot work with multiple vertical chunks simultaneously: The BiomeDecorator code must be altered to function correctly with this, or removed.
•Current cave generation method is executed an extra time for each vertical chunk created simultaneously, leading to lag spikes on world generation: Cave generation's method must be altered to suit this system more.
•Current grass/dirt generation algorithm forces additional chunk requests when chunks are loaded, causing chunks to load slower than they should: This algorithm must be replaced with something else.

Changes in how things work:

Obviously, the implementation of this new chunk system will change quite a few things. These changes are mostly either necessary or in the interest of increased efficiency. Such changes are categorized and explained below.

How worlds will be stored:
[spoiler]How the current storage works, and what changes:
Interestingly enough, the current method of storage, the Anvil format, is derived from the storage method that the original Cubic Chunks mod used. The Anvil format stores individual chunk as a series of 16³ quasi-cubic chunks. These 'fake' cubic chunks allow for easier reference of specific data, but they still can't be separated from each other, meaning that it fails to reap the full benefits of this system. Even so, the change allowed Mojang to double the maximum height with no performance hit. Chunks are stored in groups of 32², inside 'MCRegion' files, for a total of 1024 chunks.
By nature, cubic chunks does away with the 'quasi-cubic' nonsense. In terms of chunk grouping, instead of using groups of 32³ chunks, new "3DRegion" files would contain groups of 16³. This means each 3DRegion file contains 4096 chunks, four times as many as MCRegion files. However, each 3DRegion contains only one fourth the amount of blocks. For per-chunk positional metadata, 3DRegion files would use the same number of bits as MCRegion files, after compression. Calculations show that the same area encompassed by a single MCRegion file would consume 64 kilobytes of extra space with 4 3DRegion files, which is nothing.

Converting existing worlds:
Most people are probably wondering something like "But won't this totally destroy all existing worlds?". Absolutely not; conversion could not be simpler. When a non-cubic world is loaded after the implementation of this system, a conversion process will begin and convert the entire world at once(To avoid making chunk loading take longer during play). First, all existing MCRegion files will be divided into quarters to create 3DRegion files. Then, all existing chunks are divided into sixteenths using the quasi-cubic properties to identify boundaries. After that, conversion is done.

The "isEmpty" flag optimization:
A 1-bit flag is added to each chunk, named "isEmpty". If the chunk consists of 100% air blocks, this bit is 1, any other case makes it 0. When the bit is 1, all data for the chunk besides the isEmpty flag is deleted and ignored, which reduces filesize. Empty chunks are never loaded, and locations where they occur are merely simulated as entities reside in them. The chunk will only load when something requires saving inside it.[/spoiler]

Changes to terrain, ores, etcetera:
[spoiler]Terrain:
By default, nothing will change. Small bits of terrain generation code need to be reconfigured to work properly with Cubic Chunks.

Biomes:
By default, nothing will change.

Ore generation:
By default, nothing will change.

Structures:
By default, nothing will change.

The Void:
After conversion to Cubic Chunks, the void and bedrock layer will still exist and generate as they always have. However, the void(Not the bedrock layer!) will not exist as a hard limit and is able to be moved, but not removed, by editing an associated NBT data tag inside a world's level.dat. This feature, that allows for increasing the maximum depth, is intentionally disabled without external programs, to prevent terrain change of any sort. It is intended to be used by experienced mapmakers and world generation mods only.

Superflat settings:
Existing superflat worlds will not change. However, new superflat worlds will gain a new decoration parameter, 'void'. Inclusion of this parameter will cause the void to form below the lowest defined layer. Exclusion of it will cause all layers below the lowest defined layer to copy the settings of that layer.[/spoiler]

Coping with sunlight:
[spoiler]There used to be a solution here, but it wasn't deemed good enough by Jeb. Suggest solutions in this thread.[/spoiler]

Changes to servers:
[spoiler]Settings:
There's a setting inside the Server.properties file called 'max-build-height'. The setting makes it impossible for any player to place or remove blocks above that height.
With the implementation of Cubic Chunks, a new setting named "maximum-generation-depth" would be added. The void, bedrock layers, and magma layers will generate normally at and above the Y level designated by the value of this setting.

Chunk occlusion/exclusion:
Using the raytracing methods already available in the code and used for explosion calculations, servers can identify which chunks are visible to a player, within safe assumptions, and only send the data for those chunks. This both reduces bandwidth usage, and cripples the usefulness of X-Ray cheats.[/spoiler]

Render/Load distance alterations:
[spoiler]After the implementation of Cubic Chunks, view distances' radii will apply to the vertical axis too. This reduces handled blocks in the cases of tiny and short render distances, and increases them in the cases of normal and far render distances. This can be optimized by utilizing a spherical render distance instead of a cubic one, which would reduce handled blocks in all distances except Far.[/spoiler]

Frequently Asked Questions:

[spoiler=FAQ]Q: This is impossible.
A: No it's not. See below.

Q: Is this available as a mod?
A: Not yet! But it will be!

Q: I like X-ray! What if I don't want it to be broken?
A: First of all, breaking X-ray hacks will only be possible to do in multiplayer. That said, the system that would break X-ray would be possible to disable by the server owner. If the owner doesn't disable the system, then they don't want you using X-ray, and you should not be doing what the server owner doesn't want in the first place.

Q: I play on a PvP/Anarchy/Raid/Faction server. Won't this system let people pillar up into the sky and create a base thousands of blocks in the air and never be found?
A: No.

Q: I like Minecraft's current height limits. What if I don't want to have an infinite sky or infinite underground?
A: If this system is added, all worlds will not automatically gain an infinite underground. As stated below, the Void will remain in all worlds, even after the conversion to Cubic Chunks. The ability to remove the Void will simply be there. As for infinite space in the sky, the current build limit is over one hundred blocks above any terrain that vanilla Minecraft can possibly generate. It is ENTIRELY your decision on whether or not you take advantage of this height. If you play on a server, like stated above, the server owner can set a maximum build height. If s/he doesn't, then don't play on their server - you don't play on servers where the server owners allow things you don't like. Why would you play on an anarchy server if you hate being stolen from and killed?

Q: Will this affect Redstone at all?
A: No. This system will simply make it possible to make larger redstone circuitry than before.

Q: Won't this break existing worlds?
A: No. Existing worlds can be easily converted by dividing each MCRegion file into 4 pieces, then slicing the existing 256 block-high chunks inside them into 16 individual chunks.

Q: Won't this affect mods? Won't mod authors have a hard time updating their mods?
A: The answer to this question depends solely on the answer to the following two questions: Do parts of the modification code rely on chunk data/metadata? Does the mod author want to take advantage of the features of the new chunk system? If the answers to the first and second question are both "No", then updating a mod to this system should be very easy and quick. If the answer to the first question is "Yes", then those parts of the code will need to be rewritten somewhat, but in most cases, the changes should be fairly quick and easy. The only time that it should be hard to update a mod to this system, is if the answer to the second question is "Yes".

Q: Won't this require a total rewrite of the mod API if that's released first?
A: No. Whether or not even a small part of the mod API needs to be rewritten depends on the way that it is implemented and whether or not there are API inclusions for chunk handling and other chunk-related behavior.

Q: Could a player fall into unloaded chunks if chunks aren't loaded fast enough?
A: No, they could not, and for several reasons. Minecraft has a terminal velocity, though it might not seem like it. This velocity is slower than it should take to load new chunks below the player. In cases with exceptionally slow computers, even if the player did manage to reach an unloaded chunk, their fall would be paused until that chunk can be loaded.

Q: What would happen when water, sand, or a mob falls into an unloaded chunk?
A: Nothing. The water/sand/mob would freeze in place until the chunk is loaded and it can continue moving. You can already see this same thing happening on the horizontal axis.

Q: What will happen to the Void?
A: It will still exist, along with all its effects. The only difference is that the Void is no longer a hard limit and it can be moved. After the conversion to Cubic Chunks, the Void's location will be stored in a world's ' class='bbc'>level.dat, and this location can be changed with NBT editing tools. When and where the Void exists, chunks will cease to generate.

Q: Will this affect terrain?
A: No. However, terrain generators will gain the ability to use infinite height.

Q: Will this affect ore generation?
A: No. Ore is a part of terrain generation. As stated above, terrain will not be changed.

Q: Won't all current terrain generators be incompatible with this system and need to be rewritten?
A: No. Terrain generators work independently of chunks. When a chunk is generated for the first time, it calls the terrain generator and receives a specific section of the resultant terrain to save inside itself. Because of this, some custom terrain generators can generate steep terrain all the way to Y256, where you can experience a large, flat cut-off. Since there are no chunks above Y256 to call the terrain generator for terrain, no terrain exists there.

Q: What would happen if there's a huge solid ceiling so far above you that it is unloaded? Wouldn't you just see the sky, just with everything being completely dark?
A: Yes. This already happens on the horizontal axis, and it is an issue with sky rendering, not this chunk system. As such, this has nothing to do with this suggestion. Please do not post about this.

Q: If you go deep underground, will your plants grow/ores smelt/animals grow?
A: No, because those chunks would be unloaded, just as if you had walked far away. This is a flaw with any chunk system, regardless of shape. It is a necessary evil that allows Minecraft to have infinite worlds. The only way to fix this would be to introduce a separate new system that works with chunks as they are loaded and unloaded. This suggestion deals with the chunk system itself, and not sister processes. Because of that, that is outside of the scope of this suggestion. Please do not post about this.[/spoiler]

[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod! (Tall Worlds Mod):

Cuchaz has taken it upon himself to bring us the glorious Cubic Chunks, since Mojang refuses to do so.

Cuchaz is using a API of his own creation to help assist in the making of this mod, and he's quite far along, as seen in these two tech demo videos:
[spoiler=T-Demo 1: Vertical chunk loading][/spoiler]
[spoiler=T-Demo 2: Broken height cap and no lag!][/spoiler]
With the basic functionality in place - a complete overhaul of the basic chunk system, and height limit removed - this whole concept can already be considered proven. What remains is making sure everything else functions correctly under the new chunk system. In any case, stay tuned for future updates if it interests you(If it doesn't, then you are the weakest link - goodbye!).

You can follow the mod's development in much more depth in its very own topic!

Gallery:

[spoiler=A mountainside with an experimental engine using Cubic Chunks designed by Nocte. 960 block view radius, and 30 FPS.]

[/spoiler]
[spoiler=A different view of the mountainside with the same engine by Nocte. This time, with 1600 block view radius and 15 FPS.]

[/spoiler]
[spoiler="A video demonstrating Nocte's engine."]

Support & Submission to Mojang:

If you support this, hit the rep button in the bottom-left corner of this post. It is the only good way of accurately measuring support here.

If you wish, you can put the following banner, courtesy of laz2727, into your signature. It helps to attract support from all parts of the forum!

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Please help us get word out of this suggestion! Share this with your friends, with Minecraft celebrities if you're familiar with them, or even with Mojangsters like Jeb or Dinnerbone! (Do not share this with Notch. Notch doesn't work with Minecraft anymore.)

The purpose of this suggestion is to have Cubic Chunks implemented in Vanilla. Being available as a modification does not fulfill that purpose. The modification featured in this suggestion is to act as a proof-of-concept only(Note: Its being featured here is to act as a proof-of-concept. The modification itself is on its way to becoming a fully fledged modification).

Special thanks:
Cuchaz, for taking Barteks' proof and running with it, to give us a truly functional Cubic Chunks mod.
Barteks2x, for updating the Cubic Chunks mod to 1.6.2, proving that it is possible.
Azraile, for posting the original suggestion and allowing me to take ownership of it.
Nocte, for helping resolve flaws and designing Hexahedra.
MineCrak, for a large amount of valuable insight and enthusiasm into the topic of Cubic Chunks.
aaronfranke, for helping resolve flaws.
PanJouda, for creating the original banner.
Flexico, for creating the predecessor to the current banner.
laz2727, for creating the current banner.
Robinton, for creating the original Cubic Chunks mod.
The_Watchman13, for answering all those stupid questions so I don't have to.

Note: Many calculations and information can be found among the many posts of this topic. There are too many for me to cite here, but if you wish, you can search for them yourself.

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Mar 10, 2014

Snowviraptor posted a message on Pigeons! A tameable mob with a purpose! You'll "dove" what I've added!

New Thread Here:

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2541860

Support this idea on reddit! Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftsuggestions/comments/2ympop/pigeons_a_tamable_mob_with_a_purpose/

Also, please stop giving fixes for a lag issue that has been fixed for half a year. We don't really need it any more, and it's getting quite annoying. If there is still a lag issue that I haven't stated, then please alert me of it.

Isn't it hard walking over 1000 blocks just to deliver a single item? Yes you can make rail systems to send large amounts of items, but I find a simpler way is necessary. My answer: Delivery Pigeons.

Pigeons spawn in forest-like biomes. They can be tamed with 2-5 pumpkin seeds, and 5 hearts. They will then follow you around until you are ready to send a message. The pigeon would look like this:
It would be able to fly (follow), or stand (sit), until you are ready. When you want to send something, shift+right click the tame pigeon, and this GUI will come up.

The 6 slots are for the items that you want to send, the send button sends the items, the cancel button exits the menu without sending, and the black box is for the players name. I decided on 6 slots, so that clever rail systems are not obsolete.

A new block would also be added called the perch, when a pigeon is sent, it will land on one of the receiving player's perches.
Crafting:

A perch:

I'm clueless about redstone, but I think that If a pigeon is on a perch, a comparator could give off a signal, but not if the perch is empty. You could create pigeon alarms using this. Please tell me if this is not how comparators work!

Preches can be named for 0 xp in an anvil, so you can type: "playername perchname" to decide exactly which perch you will send the pigeon to, without too much expense.
Adventure map makers can use commands to give perches custom names, without having the playername. This is so that you don't have to send messages to the author of the map to complete a puzzle.

If the player you are sending the items to does not have enough perches, the pigeon will just put the items back in your inventory (Or on the ground if there is not enough space).

When you send a pigeon to a user, It will appear to fly away, but when it reaches an unloaded chunks, it will teleport to one of their perches, with a delay depending on distance between the 2 objects, the blocks:minutes ratio would be about 500:1. If the distance is shorter than 200 blocks, It will just fly the distance (and load any unloaded chunks). This is so that on small map PVP servers, and UHC's you can have fun shooting down enemy pigeons. It would be hard to do this, as they fly twice as fast as a player sprinting.

It will then appear in the "view" any nearby players, and land on it. If no players are nearby, it will just be sitting there. If it can't reach a perch in any way, it will noclip through the layer of blocks, I cant see how this could be used for griefing. Once the player has found it, and taken the items, it becomes that players pigeon. Only the owners of pigeons can use their inventories.

I'm sure you can see how this can help in multiplayer, but what about the people who are strictly singleplayer? I've sorted this too.
Imagine that you are in the middle of nowhere, and lost. You have been wandering for hours, because you have your diamond armour, sword, and pick with you. You see a pigeon flying around, but ignore it. Then you see pumpkins. You grab them, and turn them into seeds, and tame the pigeon. Next thing you know, your armour, and tools are flying home. You then find a ravine...
You obviously could just have a pigeon follower, or a pigeon farm just for the fun of it.
And there's the potential for minigames/ puzzles. Try an shoot down pigeons before they get to you, or have to send items in pigeons to complete the puzzle... The possibilities are huge.

Pigeons spawn like cows, and pigs, and don't despawn. They lay eggs like chickens, and you can throw these to get baby pigeons
A comparison of adult and baby pigeons:

Since previous tamable mobs like horses, and cats have multiple skins, pigeons would have a chance to spawn with dove colours.

Possible suggestions made by the community:

ThesaurusRex and I worked on creating a more realistic pigeon, that would still fit the game. It has a larger tail, chicken eyes, and a smaller head. The legs are also different.

Reddit user coolreader18 (and a few other people) suggested letters. Crafted with one paper, and one feather, they store a single page of writing, and make a good aesthetic, and are a cheaper way of sending text.

Thank you for reading my suggestion. If you don't like it, don't just say: "No support" Give me a reason like:
"I don't like the trees, No Support." So that I can improve the suggestion.

If you would like to support this thread, press the green arrow button in the bottom right, and if you really like the idea, you could use one of these banners:

These 2 are mine:

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More banners are welcome!

If you want to make a mod of this, there is no need to ask, but you MUST, tell me about the mod.

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Oct 14, 2015

Mushroomsock posted a message on Pigeons! Minecraft's Avian Postman!

Thread should work now, just report any errors you get so I can fix them/

Even before making a new account, I wanted to revamp my old pigeon thread, but now I have to, if I want to keep being able to update it. Here's a new thread with refined concepts and ideas.

For the likely large amount of people who never saw the old Pigeon thread:
Pigeons is an idea to fix the problem of sending items over long distance on Singleplayer, or Multiplayer, through a new mob: The Pigeon.

This is not the suggestion you want to read if you have limited time.

The Pigeon:

Here's the new pigeon concept! It now has the 1 pixel eyes that even Mojang thinks the chicken has, is designed to fit with newer models like the Horse, and the Guardian, and generally looks more like a pigeon.

Pigeon Stats:
Health:
10 Health (5 full hearts, half the health of a player)
Drops:
When wild: 0-2 feathers, 1-3 XP
When tame: Nothing
Movement:
When moving a short distance, the pigeon will walk. When travelling more than 10 blocks, the pigeon will fly to it's destination, a few blocks off the ground.
Spawning:
Pigeons spawn similar to farm animals like cows, but only in extreme hills, and sub-biomes.
Taming:
Pigeons are tamed with 1-5 pumpkin seeds. Their taming has the same mechanism as Ocelots, and they will fly away when startled.
Other:

All Pigeons can be pulled by leads.
Pigeons lay eggs the same way chickens do. They can replace chicken eggs in recipes.

Wild Pigeons are attacked by Ocelots
Pigeons can swim
Pigeons have a baby model for when they hatch (Image planned)
Tamed pigeons can be made to follow/sit with RClick
Pigeons may come in different colors, such as that of a Dove.

Sending Items:

When a Pigeon is Shift+RClicked, the sending GUI is opened.

GUI Guide:
1. Pigeon Portrait, similar to in the horse GUI
2. Storage slots, basically the items you send.
3. Seed slot. For every 500 blocks, a pigeon requires 1 seed. Normal, Melon, Pumpkin, and Beetroot seeds all work, but you only have one slot. This means a pigeon can fly a maximum of 32 Thousand blocks. After a Perch Name has been entered into the Perch Bar (6), the number of seeds required will appear next to the Seed Slot.
4. The Send Button. After everything required is filled in, then you click this button, and the pigeon will send it's items.
5. Cancel. Clicking this puts all the items back in your inventory, or throws them out if you don't have enough space. Your hotbar would be accessible at the bottom of the GUI, so you would be able to save the more valuable items in dangerous situations.
6. The Perch bar. Here you enter the name of the Perch you want to send the items to. Entering a Minecraft name before the perch helps to show which perches that player has available, for example, if somebody wanted to send me a message, but didn't know my perch names, they could just enter:
Mushroomsock
And pressing the "Tab" key would scroll through all my available perches. Assuming I had a Perch called "Foo," both:
Mushroomsock: Foo
and just
Foo
Would work as valid Perch names.

After "Send" is hit, the Pigeon will fly out of sight, and then do a delayed teleport to the Perch you chose to send it to, The teleport time is calculated by the distance the Pigeon is sent, with about 1 minute per 500 blocks. If the Pigeon flies 200 blocks or less, it does not teleport, and just flies to the Perch. If at the receiving end, a player is near when a Pigeon arrives, the Pigeon will appear in view of that player, and then fly to the Perch which it lands on. Since there's a good chance you don't know what a Perch even is, It's time for me to explain that...

The Perch/Receiving a Pigeon:

The Perch is crafted like this:

It takes as long as glass planes to break, and makes the same sounds wooden planks.
When a Perch is placed, it asks you to name it. You can enter anything that isn't already taken on the server/world.

Perches with pigeons activate comparators, so Pigeon alarms work.

If a Perch is placed on a hopper, the items a Pigeon arrives with are automatically taken. If it isn't on a hopper, then you have to come and remove them manually, until the Pigeon is empty. When a pigeon is empty, you select one of the Sender's Perches, and it will fly back to them. No items can be put in the return Pigeon, and it does not require seeds.

And I think that's all that needs to be said! Please tell me in the comments if there is something from the old thread, or some piece of knowledge that I missed, and I will add it ASAP! Please vote in the polls that apply to you.

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Sep 1, 2015

DarK1272 posted a message on Smart Moving

waiting for backpack support...

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