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    posted a message on the reason some people dont want RPG elements
    Quote from JeremyEr10

    The reason why some people hate the Adventure update is because they have gotten used to the old Minecraft. That's why they don't want almost EVERYTHING about 1.8 (and 1.9). Hunger, skills, snow golems and blah blah blah. They want to PERSUADE Notch to give the old Minecraft back.


    And thankfully Notch can see how great Minecraft can become with having more elements added into the game. As he said "There is so much potential in what can be made with Minecraft, it would be a shame to see it get stuck as being just a block building game."


    Quote from Reichiru

    I really don't understand why people are throwing around "RPG." I see fantasy elements being added, but in order for Minecraft to be a RPG there needs to be goals and a story. Potions and villages with mute villagers does not = RPG. It still very much says free-build game to me.


    He is working on all that (Quest/Goals/Story line) and he said it will most likely come as an expansion after the game has been released. He is having trouble figuring out a way to implement them. (Don't have the interview on hand, but he said something like that.)
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    posted a message on Hardcore mode too hard?
    Quote from Holly_Short

    Hardcore
    Its called rocket science.

    It confuses me because its still more like easycore mode. Played on it for a bit today but got off cause I didn't like the lag.
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    posted a message on Hardcore mode is going to win.
    Quote from Wisheez

    am I the only one that would really try it?
    just for a random world in single player, i mean just to do something different :tongue.gif: playing safe instead of dropping yourself into huuge dark holes with just a pickaxe


    I am going to play on hardcore all the time, that is how I would enjoy the game the most. Right now it gets way to old specially when nothing really happens when you die. Playing a survival world when it is close to real life would be something I enjoy. This game went from something I did not like to much, into something I am starting to enjoy. (started at 1.7.3)

    This is probably the best feature I have seen in MineCraft :biggrin.gif:
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    posted a message on Hardcore mode is going to win.

    Losing the exp is a punishment in every difficulty , in the hardcore difficulty it doesnt matter if you lose your exp , because your world will be deleted by that time.

    yea but that effect will hurt worse then getting banned. Or something like that..
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    posted a message on Hardcore mode is going to win.
    Quote from renadi

    yeah, I guess, I spend a lot of time spectating on my own server already haha

    but like I said, it's not so fun to watch your friends have fun without you, with strangers, or a really large group it might be ok, but when it's just like 5 people (my server has around 5 people at any time) it just feels lame to not participate.


    There are many ways to go about this, but I think Notch is taking one way about it. When you die you will lose your exp points, and with that goes your bonuses. That will be one way that people will get punished for dying. You can also make them become frozen (not able to move) for x amount of time after they die. There is a lot you can do, but I personally think losing exp is enough of a downside to being killed. Could even make their "flags" transfer over to the person that killed them.-against that idea-

    Over all I like the hardcore mode and cannot wait to use it.
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    posted a message on Hardcore mode in Game
    Quote from renadi

    0.o
    hardcore mode has always been something Notch was going to do and the corruption and mushroom biomes being compared... I don't get it, they have the same colour scheme but the functions are completely different, there's really nothing special about mushroom biomes, corruption is an entire gameplay mechanic in terraria, just cuz it's a similar colour does not make it the same...

    as a note, notch said on reddit it sets the difficulty to hard, so no worries :biggrin.gif:


    We still need hard mode to actually be hard mode. With this new "hardcore" option, all we need to do is watch out for lava. Please Notch..make it harder :sad.gif:
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    posted a message on Will my computer run Minecraft well?
    Quote from NullReact

    Will my laptop run Minecraft (payed beta version)

    I tried Classic Minecraft and I lagged really bad with about 5-25 fps on the highest view. There was a lot of lag spikes too. On the lowest view setting I had about 150+ fps.

    But, will my game be able to run Minecraft beta on the highest settings with a fps of 30 or higher? I heard there's a lot less lag on the beta product of Minecraft.

    Computer specs:

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 380 @ 2.53GHz
    CPU Speed: 2.5 GHz Performance Rated at: 5.625 GHz
    Ram: 3.8 GB
    OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit
    Video Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics

    Video RAM 1.7 GB
    3D Yes
    Hardware T&L Yes
    Pixel Shader version 4.0
    Vertex Shader version 4.0

    DirectX version: 11.0
    Sound Card: Realtek High Definition Audio
    Free Disk Space: 535.8 GB
    CD-ROM: Slimtype DVD A DS8A5SH


    Your computer will run minecraft just fine. Look at it this way...

    My computer has an AMD Athlon Processor that only has 1.60 GHz unlike your 2.53 GHz I3. I only have 2GB of ram and you have 4gb of ram. Video card shouldn't matter much since MineCraft is mainly CPU dependent. So look at it this way, your CPU is almost 1 GHz better then mine lol. You should do just fine. :smile.gif:
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    posted a message on im probabaly the only one that thinks this would be cool
    Quote from Eddz0r

    Then you have to make a difference between treewood and wood used to build... coding coding coding... or make wood handicaped by gravity, but that would be the end of some of my most beautiful buildings...

    Yea but even then it all just seems like to much trouble for an outcome that over half the forum community would hate. As much as I would like the idea, I think after 5mins the cool factor will go away.

    Though I doubt it would be very hard to make it so all block in x amount of space is effected by gravity. Meaning that when you set off TNT it blows up some blocks and then any blocks that are still in tact for a range of 10 blocks will be effected by gravity until they stop moving. It would be as simple as copying previous code into the TNT code. Now that would add effect to the game, while making it more realistic, without changing the game play. I mean it wont really effect the world at all, unless you use TNT.

    Edit: I'll +1 this morgan_slater, though you might want to add this idea to the suggestions part of this forum. (Or pass it through to notch/jeb on twitter) :biggrin.gif:
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    posted a message on im probabaly the only one that thinks this would be cool
    Quote from Eddz0r

    That will need a hell of a physicsystem. I aggree that this maybe very funny. But floating blocks is an essential of Minecraft, never will removed. So adding real physics to Minecraft is a no go.


    That is somewhat true/not true. I always liked this idea, but I feel it would hurt the game to much in the long run. Though I do believe trees should fall down when chopped. It would not be hard to make some trees like sand. Though this would ruin some of the trees notch has made. As cool as this would be, I rather them work on other things instead of trying to figure this part out.
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    posted a message on The Big Freeze
    If you want to also see something, play seed: -6835748136434796120 in 1.8 then start a new world with the same seed in 1.9. In 1.8 you start in a forest with a town near by, and when you start in 1.9 it is all snow with no town near by. (I started on the same x/y cords)
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    posted a message on Minecraft's Slowly Turning into an RPG
    Quote from LDelta

    I've been very disappointed at the recent updates, they're turning Minecraft into an RPG. Don't get me wrong, the 1.8 and 1.9 Pre-release brought a lot of nice concepts but some things are just horrible. The whole abandoned mine/stronghold idea idea wasn't very good to start with and there are just way too many of them, you can't even go for a walk without running into one. It makes the game way less realistic and takes out the whole mining experience because why mine when you can just jump down a hole?

    Hunger also sucks, if anything, it should be an optional feature. I even get that some players might like that for roleplaying purposes, but it forces you to farm to survive being that Minecraft has always been a game about freedom, not being forced to do anything. If you think about it, despite Minecraft being called Minecraft, you've never had to mine to survive. You can no longer just run around the world exploring places, you have to now either settle and farm or carry an endless supply of coal, a furnace, and weapons wherever you go (and not even that can guarantee you food). As for experience, I don't even see why I'm gonna need that.

    Villages are ok but they're still not perfect, the village generation code is very buggy, villages spawn in very weird places, and houses aren't the best looking. The idea is fine though and if Notch could work on the village generation code they should totally be kept (but it should still be an optional thing).

    The new mobs are just horrible. Endermen are the ultimate griefers. (I thought the human ones we had were already bad enough.) They're boring to fight and not too scary either, Creepers and Skeletons are a lot worse when it comes to combat. Snow men/Snow golems bring an interesting concept of sentries but the fact that these sentries are snow men just makes it seem like an RPG. What maybe Notch could do is make mobs similar to the ones we've had so far, mobs that catch you by surprised and cause a lot of damage (e.g. Creepers) or that are simply hard to kill (e.g. Skeletons). Preferably scary looking ones too. And instead of working on so many RPG elements, Notch could make new mechanisms, new weapons, things like sensors and cannons and let players decide how they wanna play the game.

    What do you guys think?


    I think you are wrong. As Notch said "The original plan always was for Minecraft to be slightly more of a ”Real Game”, whatever that is. A big portion of the inspiration is roguelike games like NetHack and ADOM [Ancient Domains of Mystery], where the game is very open ended and free, but there still is a strong game element to the game. You rarely, if ever, win those games, but that isn’t the point. The fun lays somewhere else. It’s more about emergent gameplay and about unique experiences....There is so much potential in what can be made with Minecraft, it would be a shame to see it get stuck as being just a block building game." Source


    @FireroseNekowolf
    Does it have a plot or story? The difficult part from a story perspective...I’ve been putting off figuring that out.

    Does it have quests you must complete? A quest board, maybe with a picture of a pork chop and it says “four”. Right, so I have to get four pork chops. I think that could work if you made it silly enough.

    Does it have antagonists? And then perhaps have it all converge at the end, to kill the dragon, or something.

    Does it have goals? It’s a bit difficult to add a proper narrative in a randomly generated world. So we’re thinking about achievements and quests

    Is it linear? And it then gets more complicated, and branches out into different things to do, like having separate paths. And then perhaps have it all converge at the end, to kill the dragon, or something. That’s going to be something that drives things forward.

    Are you playing the role of a character? -

    Does it even have an end point? And then perhaps have it all converge at the end, to kill the dragon, or something.

    Is this something that will be in the game when it’s complete?I think it might be pushed up to an expansion. It could get added before, if I suddenly realise how to make it.

    Source

    So make what you will of that one interview, even though there are many just like it.
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    posted a message on Should endermen be able to move blocks?
    Quote from renadi

    well see, that's the point
    who cares if they rearrange the outside?
    it adds nothing new, most of the time you wouldn't notice a particular pile of dirt, to be any use the HAVE to attack player made structures, but there also HAS to be a way to defend against it.


    The only way your going to get Notch to see that Enderman targeting player made structures is a good thing is to make a mod for it in 1.9. Even then you will need to make a couple monsters that are 1x1 so they can fit through the holes, like a baby spider.

    Its sad to see that the one monster that has so much potential is not getting used to its full strength because of "builders". Heck, I still hope Notch is planing to make Adventure mode.


    Just think of this game with 30+ monsters all coming to get you at night and your only chance to survive in survival mode was to build up your defenses in the morning. Make the game easy the first 30 days but then increase the spawn rate. Have enderman take out your player made blocks and little monsters trying to break through your defenses to kill you. Now that would make a survival mode.
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    posted a message on Endermen Nerf
    Quote from Chinook

    And I'm assuming you have some kind of telepathic connection to Notch so you know precisely what he meant by "potential" in such detail as to have exclusive rights to define the experience for everyone else? /sarcasm.


    You cannot be that blind can you? I mean if you cannot see how great this game can be, beyond a block blinding game then something is wrong. This basic platform that the game has right now can be turned into so many different great games. And yes its not hard to see what Notch means by "potential"..all you have to do is look at the games Notch based this game off of and the games he likes..then you will see where he wants MineCraft to go.

    And btw..."potential" is not hard to see. Just look at the $3 games that the xbox360 has called Total Miner or FortressCraft. Now them games can show you where MineCraft could head in the future. And really..who would pay for minecraft on the 360 when them games are better for a cheaper price. (Just saying)
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    posted a message on Give me one AMAZING reason why Hunger should NOT be toggable
    Quote from Rikaelus

    Phoenix, Arizona. I make just shy of $65k/year, single-income household, and we're probably around a lower middle class household. We pay our expenses with really nothing to spare. The house we live in I bought 2 years ago for $190k. Before the recession it probably would have been upwards of $300k.

    I live in Jefferson City, Missouri. But you are right, it is all about the conservative lifestyle. Two years ago I used to be able to live on $40 worth of food for the month, last year it went up to $50, and just this past month I am having trouble making it on $100 worth of food for the month. Though I have no bills and I pay everything in cash. Plus I do not need much, just a simple one bedroom house.

    Also I feel the Hunger bar adds to the survival mode but I do think they should change up creative a bit to suit the people that want to build.
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    posted a message on Give me one AMAZING reason why Hunger should NOT be toggable
    Quote from Rikaelus

    $2m isn't much to retire on, unless he was up there in years already. I'd earn $2m in 50 years of getting what I get paid now, but I plan to live longer than that and getting a lump sum of money doesn't give you a 401k, medical, etc.

    Just saying.

    People think a million or two will set them for life, but it actually doesn't unless you have a very conservative lifestyle.

    /tangent

    P.S. Okay.. so maybe I won't live 50 more years. 80 is being optimistic.


    I don't know where you live, but where I live people barely make $200,000 to live on for their whole life lol. Hell most state workers where I live only get paid around $30,000 a year. I could happily live on $200,000 and have no worries, hell I plan on building my own house for $30,000. And yes I live in the United States. Its all about how you budget your money and how you spend it. Heck you give me $1,000,000 and I will teach you how to turn that into $1,150,000 in one years. If you know how to save and where to invest..1,000,000 is more then enough to live on. Heck he can make a living on 1,000,000 dollars and never have to work.


    Also Notch is clear when he talks about what you bought. This is his game and he can shape it how he sees fit. It is still beta and by such he can do what he wishes with the game.

    I like the system, but I feel they should hurry up and make breeding. We need a way to get food faster.
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