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Coterie Redux for 1.9+, build 9.1

The community loves this resource pack. I love this resource pack. I'm not going to stop using it just because the maintainer decided it's not worth his time anymore. So I fixed it as best I could.

If somebody really wants to try and sue me over it, they're welcome to.

For everyone else, enjoy.

Changes:

build 0:

• Fixed creative inventory (survival inventory tab)
• Fixed survival inventory
• Fixed brewing stand (sloppy job, better fix later probably)

build 1:

• Fixed the brewing stand a little better.
• Fixed the "old version" error message.

build 2:

• Stole attack cooldown graphics from vanilla.
• Off-hand inventory slot now has a box around it in the HUD.

build 3:

• Fixed enchanting table's off-by-one.

build 4:

Got an unreleased v5s.41 from karstvgl. Not all changes merged, but...

• Several blocks that weren't retextured before, now are.
• New sunflower textures.
• New enderchest texture. (fits better with the obby texture, and no more vanilla green tint)
• New attack cooldown art.
• New angry particle.
• New end rod particle.
• Arrows added to the achievements UI texture. (no idea what they're for, but they're there now)
• Reworked the brewing stand UI again. (much improved, thanks to karstvgl)
• Updated enchanting table UI. (lapis icon! woo!)
• Updated crafting table UI. (missing highlight on the grid is now there)
• New icons in the inventory UI texture. (new potion effects, I think)

Also:

• Fixed the furnace fuel slot being overlapped by the "Inventory" label. (now consistent with the brewing stand)

Thanks to karstvgl for dropping me that unreleased update.

build 5:

• Fixed a mistake in the brewing stand updates from build 4.
• Stole three potion effect icons from vanilla.
• Lightened up the inventory slots in all container UIs due to constant complaints from everyone that "it's too dark".
• Did a consistency pass while I was there, because it's basically free.
• Reencoded all the textures with a better encoder and managed to smash the pack into less than 6MB. (over 1MB reduction, you're welcome everyone on a slow connection)

I think I can get the pack even smaller. I'll have to write a custom PNG encoder, but I'll probably have a go eventually.

build 6:

• Fixed the dirt rotation problem.
• New sand and red sand textures from the unreleased v5s.41. (from karstvgl)

build 7:

• 3d models are all fixed up, both in-hand, and in-inventory.
• Trapdoor texture fixed. No idea how long it's been broken, but it's all good now.

I found a model editor that works in linux and doesn't suck. I do wonder when one will be built as a webpage, though. Until then, updates!

build 8:

• Rebuilt the acacia door for practice. Textures are for sure right now.
• Rebuilt the trap doors. Textures are again for sure right, but also, two less cuboids!
• Rebuilt the torches, removing many faces and cuboids.
• Rebuilt the redstone lamps (lit and unlit both) reducing the cuboid count by nearly half.
• 3d-ified the oak door.
• 3d-ified the iron door.
• Fixed cullfaces for all the models.
• Wrote a little script to clean up model json.

The script does three things right now:

1. Fixes the cullface bug in opl's Model Creator.
2. Strips __nonsense nodes (comments and advertisements).
3. Minifies the model json.

Very nearly released a broken iron trapdoor. TIL texture swapping custom models is a thing minecraft does.

build 9:

• More torch fiddly-fiddly. Opinions?

build 9.1:

• Fixed the iron armor bug. Sorry.

Known issues:

• Still no beetroot texture. (submissions still welcome).

Quote from ragger»

Actually, yeah. I have the same issue in my texturepack... and I switched to default, and it's there too. Might be optifine bug?

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1272953-optifine-hd-c2-fps-boost-dynamic-lights-shaders?comment=52590

Fixed optifine bug.

For me, when i save the json, it forgets to put the " sign from "top", "down", "east", ... after cullface tag. It makes a big purple block in minecraft. It was easy to fix with notepad but hard to find what caused the bug. Other than this, the app works beautiful

So the bug looks like this:

"cullface": west

Instead of

"cullface": "west"

Quote from wiimanclassic

Seriously, what do you even lose here?

Integrity, pride, and my enjoyment of making anything for people that would treat me this way in return.

Given that, I either fight for what I believe is right, or allow myself to be steamrollered and bullied into submission.

Personally, if I were to go that route, and just roll over when so blatantly wronged, I can not see myself continuing to mod Minecraft. In other words, I am fighting for my desire to continue doing something which outside of nonsense like this brings me and many others a huge amount of pleasure.

I am incredibly passionate about my mod, which is why I have lasted this long and continued to develop and expand upon it for the last year and a half. Thus, I am also incredibly passionate in fighting for my continued ability to keep doing so.

Quote from Catox

And if ZeroLevel's screenshot is still accurate, you're even mentionned as the author of this mod...
Really, I wish you good luck in this situation.

Thanks man. If there is any consolation for me in all this it's that the opposition's argument inevitably boils down to "me want...you have...me take".

Personally, I still hold out hope that there are enough moral people within the community to raise enough of a stink over this attitude, to say "no" to it, and make the responsible parties reconsider moving forward with it.

As someone so rightly mentioned above, who really wants to write a mod under these kinds of circumstances? Ultimately, by not respecting the rights and wishes of modders, the community is shooting itself in the foot by discouraging the very people that provide them with free content.

In their constant desire for more and more toys they're working towards motivating Santa to finally say "f* this" and take up golfing in his free time instead.

Again: I make free content which you all can enjoy or not at your option, and have been doing so with my spare time for close to a year and a half now through hell and high water. The amount of hate and disrespect I'm getting in return here, just because I'm not providing it with the exact kind of wrapping paper that people desire, is truly staggering and worthy of a huge 'wtf?' for any thinking and moral individual.

Quote from darthvader45

Sure, people can be mean to you, but that gives you no right to be mean right back at em.

I love how you spend post after post defending the rights of forge modders to copy his idea, and laugh about it and call him names all day but you say FC doesn't have the right to actually respond to them. This faux-neutrality stuff is nonsense.

" There's nothing we modders can do about compatibility. It just happens after a while."

lol, do you have any idea how mods work? They don't just magically start being compatible. It doesn't "just happen".

Quote from Brandon816

Here's the thing though, they did respect his wishes in not forcing him to provide minecraft forge capability. So, he only has himself to blame for leaving such a want for a compatible version of it within the community, and pushing this to happen. Besides that, it's not like this is going to force him to change. Those who prefer to play the game as he wishes can continue to download his modloader-only compatible mod.

If anything, he's being really stupid about this. It was bound to happen eventually with everything moving to forge, but now with his attitude it will be a separate undertaking. Had he been cordial, he could've at least worked with them once it is done to maintain control of the overall project, preventing an entirely separate version from being developed, and probably could've even convinced them to use his adfly and paypal donation links for having provided the source material / development for the mod.

Whether or not you believe better with forge should have been allowed or not doesn't stop it from happening, so you may as well be realistic and plan ahead for what will happen with it after it's developed instead of getting into a shouting match with someone over the internet and appearing just as bad as those that copied the mod.

It seems like you don't understand what "respect my wishes" means.

FC said "I don't want BTW to be part of forge", so they made an add-on essentially to BTW that makes it compatible with forge. So this is respecting his wishes? Did you try to defend it by saying they didn't "force him"? How could that even happen? What a ridiculous statement. How can anyone be "forced" to do anything about their mods. It's not like they can have him banned from MCF or blocked from the internet. The only "forcing" they can do is making it happen with his code against his will, which is exactly what they've done. What worse thing could they possibly do?

This self-delusion is astonishing. It was a jerk move. Yeah it'll probably stick around (although the current version is riddled with Crash bugs) and it's dependent on BTW Code, but it's obviously a jerk move. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean when you treat them terribly it somehow becomes okay.

Okay, I'm not here to do much other than quote FC's copyright.

Quote 1:

This document is Copyright (2011, 2012) and is the intellectual property of the author. It may not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use as long as it remains in its unaltered, unedited form.

Quote 2:

Note: I DO NOT grant redistribution rights to this mod to anyone that asks, whether that be for a mod-pack or whatever. Don't bother asking, as it won't happen.

Better with Forge would be nice to have, but it's a pretty obvious violation of this.

Quote from ShaRose

If I recall, better than forge is a recoding of everything. It's simply reusing the ideas, which is already done in the minecraft community. Respecting the creator's wishes is one thing, but there's been a want for BTW's features in a mod that actually cares about compatibility and works with other mods instead of telling them to take a hike.

Flowerchild doesn't care about compatibility. It's just not on his radar, at least that's the impression I got from talking with him the few times I have. He's basically of the viewpoint where he just straight up wants his own game, and that's totally fine: But if someone else wants the features you have and is willing to rewrite them, he doesn't really have a leg to stand on.

That, and the amount of whining and disrespect coming from HIM doesn't really help either. He refused to listen to LexManos when he said he wasn't part of it, and was / is going on about his little conspiracy theories about every modder joining in to gang up on him. That said, if I had the time and dedication to do this kind of project, I would be very forward about it and explain why and what I'm doing. I'd likely have the code up on Github too, and try and get others to help implement features. I suppose the reason for the alter-ego is to try and stem the tide of Flowerchild-induced hate, and I suppose it worked, since he's now just spreading it thin, but this just makes everyone look bad.

The entertaining level of hypocrisy is that if I were to release a 1.4.5 compatible version of red power in spite of Eloraam taking forever to do so herself, the mcf community would all come to white knight for her and Lex would go out of his way to block me from using the hooks done for her.

It really would be best for the community if we went through and stole mods right out from the creators and ­ized them however we wanted, I bet a lot more people would be willing to make us mods if we treat them like dirt in the way of our castles.

In seriousness I do suspect that Flower was wrong in his accusations against Lex being involved, However, the failure of Lex's ability to maintain an impartial and at least semi professional distance away from the project is what made him get in the cross hairs. Lets put it this way, 341 released halo 4, a couple months later XYZ releases a game called Ring, using the same 100% exact visuals, weapons, storyline, and characters under the guise of "whelp the code is different, and it works for Playstation too!" you can imagine that 341 studios would be really ticked if a Microsoft or Sony Executive was standing next to an XYZ studios developer in the unveiling.

It was an absolute stupid move for prominent members of the community like, Lex, Florastar, and others to show up in that stream and play. The only reason why there hasn't been such an outcry from others, such as when many big players swarmed to Sengir's side over the Tekkit issue is that FC, whether intentionally or not burned every bridge he has with other modders.

And that is what makes the community currently a bunch of hypocrites.