I'm looking into getting a new case for my PC. The current one is the one HP shipped it with which is small, has poor cooling, and nothing in the way of cable management. my current cable solution is stuffing them in the 3.5" drive bay which is hardly a good solution.
I am looking at getting an NZXT Source 210 Window. My budget is about $50 and I'd like one with a window if possible.
If it's a pre-built have you looked to make sure the motherboard applies to a common standard?
I always tend to suggest the Source, it's a good case and was the go-to case for this forum for a couple months. I also tend to suggest the HAF cases, just because I personally like them, they are rather good as well.
Gosh, that is awful, how much are you paying for that? I doubt that will run Minecraft...
Sigh, you could have just Googled "Nvida Geforce 210" and you will see videos that show people playing Minecraft with 20-30 FPS while recording. Yes, it's not great, but yes it will play it.
For people who care, there is a noticeable difference even with a sound card and a decent set of headphones.
You would get a lot better improvement with a amp and a DAC, rather than buying a sound card, then you would be free to use it on future builds or where ever too.
While waiting for my motherboard to arrive I have decided that I have some money to burn so I will get some slightly performance boosting hardware for my computer that isn't really needed.
I am currently looking at 2 things. First, I think I will get an SSD. I currently use a 64GB Crucial for the OS (which is full) and a green (bleurgh) WD drive that is insanely slow. I am looking at something either 128GB or 256GB (or anything inbetween) for storing games on (I just want the first 15 seconds of my game). Which one would you recommend? My budget for this is about 300$.
And the second thing is a sound card. I need something to improve the quality of my Sennheiser PC 360's past the basic on board soundcard. The budget for this is 200$.
Note: Electronics prices in Norway are way over those of the US, but just recommend what fits in my requirements.
Edit: I'm also getting some Thermal Paste. What would you recommend (something that is not Arctic Silver 5, it's not available)?
You won't need a sound card, it won't really noticeably improve your sound quality, I suggest looking at headphone amps if you want improved quality.
So it would be better to buy one from online? or can i do something to get better connection?
Yes it would.
You would have to talk to your ISP, but that would more than likely require you to upgrade your plan, even then it might not be enough to host a decent server.
Something others didn't think about: Some ISP's might have it in their TOS that you are not allowed to host servers anyway.
Anyone mind putting together a 1200$ USD build?
I was thinking of a 7850-7870 for it, and it's gonna be for gaming mostly. I'd have 1 out of those 2 video cards and a i5 2500k or a 3570K. The only thinkg I know apart from those 2 is the 2500k is 32 nm and the 3570K has 22nm and I think something to do with a bigger bandwith for PCIe3.
It needs a monitor (20-21" will do fine.) an OS, a keyboard and mouse (these somewhat cheap, since it's easy to upgrade these. The mouse and keyboard is what I'm talking about.) Plus the OS is gonna be Win7. It won't need a SSD but I will preferably love one. Note, this is not gonna be for me. This might be for a friend who will HOPEFULLY send me the parts so I can construct it, and ship to him. He was thinking of getting a Asus 1200$ laptop, but I told him you should get a custom made one. Hopefully he agrees and understands.
This is the build I was thinking about... But I feel as if it is not good enough since it has to have a good budget but tight things to work with here. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rTyo
All of it WILL be from newegg, but if I need to get a video card like the 7870 or a 7950 from NCIX I'll see what I can do about it.
I can always go AMD, but I don't want it to be outdated so fast, since the AMD processors go by quick! Please, don't start a flame war. Be reasonable.
Honestly that build looks fine. Only thing I can suggest is spend a few extra bucks on the 3570K and maybe change the case to the NZXT Source. Might be able to find some cheaper RAM but it's only going to shave off a few bucks.
Oh, and what he asked above, you might be able to go to a cheaper (Yet still good) processor if neither of you plan on overclocking.
BK, it's looking really close only coming from Newegg, he might not have enough money to up the GPU.
You definitely will want to go to the standard fan. It'll be sufficient. The 7850 will be much better. I'd say if you can, drop the 3570 to a 3470, or maybe even an i3/FX-4300. Depends on the configurations.
Regardless, CyberPower's PCs tend to be of poor quality. Building your own computer would be a great bonding time for you and your father, requiring at most a few hours. There's plenty of tutorials, and it really is simple to do. You'll get the best bang for you buck, and have reliable parts. The PSU and HDD on the prebuilt you've chosen probably won't be of great quality at all, and will likely fail soon.
I would go with a i3, IIRC almost all of the i3's at this point score higher on benchmarks than the bulldozers. It's been awhile so I could be wrong on that though.
To reiterate what he said: Building is your best option, I mean look at the quality and price differences of what we posted and what you would be buying.
The computer would be 705$ for all the spec i posted and my dad doesnt wanna build one and so far this is best pc thats near 700$. You say that since i am not overclocking i can get standard fan? If i chose 7850 instead of 770 the pirce rises to around 800 and thats going to standard fan which saves 58$ .. i might be able to get the 7850.
If that's your only option, drop the water cooling and get the 7850.
I think that overhead will be filled by the Cathodes and stuff.
If I need a better power supply because of the extras I will be adding, let me know.
I would go ahead and just get the 750 if you plan on adding a bunch of stuff in. I am not sure how much power Cathodes take up, so I couldn't tell you, but I can tell you when you add a bunch of stuff in it adds up fast.
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Well, the Source supports mATX, so if you want that case I would say go for it.
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If it's a pre-built have you looked to make sure the motherboard applies to a common standard?
I always tend to suggest the Source, it's a good case and was the go-to case for this forum for a couple months. I also tend to suggest the HAF cases, just because I personally like them, they are rather good as well.
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Sigh, you could have just Googled "Nvida Geforce 210" and you will see videos that show people playing Minecraft with 20-30 FPS while recording. Yes, it's not great, but yes it will play it.
Where are you getting it from?
What country are you in?
Are you willing to build as Steelers suggested? It really isn't as difficult as it seems.
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You would get a lot better improvement with a amp and a DAC, rather than buying a sound card, then you would be free to use it on future builds or where ever too.
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You won't need a sound card, it won't really noticeably improve your sound quality, I suggest looking at headphone amps if you want improved quality.
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Yeah, it is, CoolMax is a company to stay away from in general, I think FM went on a rant about it a long time ago.
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Yes it would.
You would have to talk to your ISP, but that would more than likely require you to upgrade your plan, even then it might not be enough to host a decent server.
Something others didn't think about: Some ISP's might have it in their TOS that you are not allowed to host servers anyway.
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CD Drive.
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You can host a server for maybe one or two people.
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Oh, wow, life really took over... I forgot that those were coming out...
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Honestly that build looks fine. Only thing I can suggest is spend a few extra bucks on the 3570K and maybe change the case to the NZXT Source. Might be able to find some cheaper RAM but it's only going to shave off a few bucks.
Oh, and what he asked above, you might be able to go to a cheaper (Yet still good) processor if neither of you plan on overclocking.
BK, it's looking really close only coming from Newegg, he might not have enough money to up the GPU.
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I would go with a i3, IIRC almost all of the i3's at this point score higher on benchmarks than the bulldozers. It's been awhile so I could be wrong on that though.
To reiterate what he said: Building is your best option, I mean look at the quality and price differences of what we posted and what you would be buying.
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If that's your only option, drop the water cooling and get the 7850.
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I would go ahead and just get the 750 if you plan on adding a bunch of stuff in. I am not sure how much power Cathodes take up, so I couldn't tell you, but I can tell you when you add a bunch of stuff in it adds up fast.