Hoes aren't a tool designed for sharpness, but they're still plenty sharp. They're designed for cutting holes in the ground. Like a shovel. But sharper (since they're narrow, not wide at the end). The difference between a scythe and hoe isn't in the sharpness, but in the shape and use (a scythe is used for cutting wheat, and I've already explained what hoes are for).
Shears are sharper, but anyway this is probably the last comment I'll post in this thread I'm coming up with a way better idea
Maybe if you put a pair of shears in a crafting table, (undamaged), they would form Shear Blades. Dual wield them to get 8 damage with hoe attacking speed, but with the disadvantage of being unable to use a golden apple, ender pearl, or shield in the other hand. If you only have 1, they do nothing.
The title of this thread makes you look arrogant. They did not forget anything, they probaly just do not want shears to be weapons.
This is compleely useless. Hoes make way more sense as weapons than shears. Hoes are very sharp, and the texture of shears in minecraft looks like they are safety shears, not like scissors.
NO SUPPORT
Hoes are not sharp, you are confused with a sythe.
"Minecraft is already weird, I'm just trying to even out the weirdness" That's not a very reasonable reason for making shears a weapon, which by the way, aren't sharp in game. Hoes are basically a Minecraft version of scythes now, and I like that. We don't need ANOTHER weapon that's faster than the hoe, there isn't really a point.
I want to support this, but it doesn't seem too practical. The idea of shears "cutting" opponents is ridiculous, and while they could be weapons, anything else could as well. You could hurt someone by whacking at them with a cobblestone... the list goes on.
No support, sorry
Which one makes more sense, take your time please.
A. Hoe-ing the living out of your opponant (3rd best melee item below the axe.)
B. Moderatly damaging your opponant. (A little below the stone sword.)
Well if you want, I could be the "yes man" of the forums and blindly support ideas just to make the OP feel good and because the ideas "seems" awesome. (Come on Xystem4, you should give me more credit.)
This idea is neta ver op or useless its just a bit "weird" but have we forgotten how weird the game has always been.
I would rather see daggers as the "low damage but fast recharge" weapon over either hoes or shears, because they are actual weapons. I agree with Josh on the shears - you can't fight with scissors with tapered tips.
And by the way, are these miniature handheld hoes or something, because every hoe I've seen has a super long wooden handle and definitely can't be swung faster than a sword.
Sorry for your loss, bur hoes are already a proudly used weapon, What im trino to do is even out the weirdness by adding a slightly less weirder weapon idea. I know its weird
That means that even the 0.25 second recovery time for hoes is already faster than the rate at which you can actually attack a mob at - this also means that spam-clicking was mostly useless since the maximum rate of 20 hits per second (one per tick) is meaningless when only 2 were effective (prior to 1.7 this was even more fun because weapons lost durability even when used during the damage immunity period, thus they worse out very quickly; it always surprises me how much people spam-click; when I kill a mob I only hit it when it is not red since I know that hitting it again is useless and wastes my sword, which also has Knockback so they'll be knocked back, giving me more time between hits before they come up to me again).
Also, since a Sharpness V diamond sword deals 14.25 damage per hit, well in excess of the 10 damage required to kill most hostile mobs (20 HP) in two hits, it is still clearly better than anything else, especially if Sharpness is not affected by the damage modifier (currently Sharpness is only added after any other modifiers, including critical hits and Strength effects; a critical hit only multiples the base damage by 1.5 for a total of 18.25, not 21.375).
That means that even the 0.25 second recovery time for hoes is already faster than the rate at which you can actually attack a mob at - this also means that spam-clicking was mostly useless since the maximum rate of 20 hits per second (one per tick) is meaningless when only 2 were effective (prior to 1.7 this was even more fun because weapons lost durability even when used during the damage immunity period, thus they worse out very quickly; it always surprises me how much people spam-click; when I kill a mob I only hit it when it is not red since I know that hitting it again is useless and wastes my sword, which also has Knockback so they'll be knocked back, giving me more time between hits before they come up to me again).
Also, since a Sharpness V diamond sword deals 14.25 damage per hit, well in excess of the 10 damage required to kill most hostile mobs (20 HP) in two hits, it is still clearly better than anything else, especially if Sharpness is not affected by the damage modifier (currently Sharpness is only added after any other modifiers, including critical hits and Strength effects; a critical hit only multiples the base damage by 1.5 for a total of 18.25, not 21.375).
FALSE, sir, the recovery of the hoe is accucualy around. Around 0.6 of a second.
You are saying you can get 4 shots in a second with a hoe which is mórbidly wrong
Person 2: Oh yeah?! *pulls out shears* Yeah who's laughing now?
Weird, weird suggestion. What's with the whole "Mojang forgot about this" line? Maybe Mojang didn't want shears to be some goofy weapon? Even you openly admit that this the idea is weird. I hate to be the thread grouch again, but I don't understand why people are supporting. I don't see the reason to make the effort into making this a weapon, since no person with a brain will go up against someone with an enchanted sword with shears.
No support.
Edit: You should really consider not cross-referencing your other threads in your suggestions... Seriously.
Cerroz, have you missed the update, Pixs, Axes, Shovles, and HOES are usable in combat, using a hoe (which usually arent sharp in real life) is alot more weirder than a a sharp pair of sissors.
Plus its minecraft its not meant to be totally realistic.
And by the way, even with this addition a stone sword could easilly win a shears.
stone swords take 2.5 - 3 hearts, slower attack speed
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Shears are sharper, but anyway this is probably the last comment I'll post in this thread I'm coming up with a way better idea
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I really like this idea I may incorporate it.
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Hoes are not sharp, you are confused with a sythe.
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It's as bad as the stone sword.
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Most people like it this way. Instead of adding a new item, it gives useless items a purpose. So it will probobly stay.
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Which one makes more sense, take your time please.
A. Hoe-ing the living out of your opponant (3rd best melee item below the axe.)
B. Moderatly damaging your opponant. (A little below the stone sword.)
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Thanks crafty
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This idea is neta ver op or useless its just a bit "weird" but have we forgotten how weird the game has always been.
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Sorry for your loss, bur hoes are already a proudly used weapon, What im trino to do is even out the weirdness by adding a slightly less weirder weapon idea. I know its weird
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FALSE, sir, the recovery of the hoe is accucualy around. Around 0.6 of a second.
You are saying you can get 4 shots in a second with a hoe which is mórbidly wrong
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Look at the stats. The hoe has more damage per second than the shovel, and the pix.
The diamond hoe is currently better than the stone sword. And almost as good as the Iron axe, and Iron sword.
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Look at the stars its barely a weapon. It can get destroyed by a stone sword.
And no, I dont stick with just bad comments im just repling to all the comments I see.
I guess I have more good ones than bad ones
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I like the ideas, but for now lets stick with tools
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Cerroz, have you missed the update, Pixs, Axes, Shovles, and HOES are usable in combat, using a hoe (which usually arent sharp in real life) is alot more weirder than a a sharp pair of sissors.
Plus its minecraft its not meant to be totally realistic.
And by the way, even with this addition a stone sword could easilly win a shears.
stone swords take 2.5 - 3 hearts, slower attack speed
shears take 1 heart, faster attack speed
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thanks lol