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Quote from WildCreeper

But you must be very endgame to be able to bulid a house out of iron blocks, and given that quartz is as common as iron, it'll be very time-consuming to have enough quartz to build a house.

Quote from Exalm

Barren? The current terrain is barren.

Quote from Exalm

So consistent!
And the current plains, and (Especially!) oceans are barrens, as I already said above.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

Can we stop debating about changing floors, and actually talk about fixing this issue?

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

Once again, you fail to understand. Say you want to floor to be wool; try slabbing the floor then. And this IS a huge problem... read and THINK about my original post.

Quote from Jake Von

Does anyone have a sense of balance? I should not have to kill an entire cow to make a book. I should not have to slaughter my entire farm's worth of cattle to make a decent library. Right now, paper is easy to get. If anything, it should be more difficult to get paper for the book than it is to get leather for the book. One full stalk of sugar cane easily makes a book's worth of paper, but you need to slaughter and entire cow to make a single book given the drop rate of leather. It isn't right.

To be honest, the average leather dropped is even lower than 1 per cow.

Leather is simply too time-consuming to attain.

I shouldn't need to murder four cows to make a pair of boots.
I shouldn't need to murder eight of them to make a tunic.
I shouldn't need to murder three of them to make a bookshelf.
I shouldn't need to murder five of them to make a hat (Unless you play TF2)
I shouldn't need to murder seven of them to make a pair of pants.
I shouldn't need to murder twenty-four cows to make a single set of inferior armor. Even for vanity.

Let's face it. Leather needs to have a higher drop rate. Plain and simple.

Does anyone have a sense of balance? I should not have to mine an entire diamond vein to make diamond tools. I should not have to explore the entire cave system to make diamond tools. Right now, wooden sticks are easy to get. If anything, it should be more difficult to get sticks for the tools than it is to get diamonds for the tools. One full stalk of wood planks easily makes a diamond tool worth of sticks, but you need to search for a vein of diamond to make a single diamond tool given the rarity of diamonds. It isn't right.

To be honest, the average diamond dropped per ore is 1.

Diamond are simply too time-consuming to attain.

I shouldn't need to mine four diamonds to make a pair of boots.
I shouldn't need to mine eight of them to make a chestplate.
I shouldn't need to mine five of them to make a helmet.
I shouldn't need to mine seven of them to make a pair of pants.
I shouldn't need to mine twenty-four diamonds to make a single set of superior armor. Even for near invincibility.

Let's face it. Diamonds needs to have a drop rate or be more common. Plain and simple.

Quote from redstonevet90

Since much of MC is repetitive gathering.

(Thanks to Souwnd for the banner!)

Sensible Enchanting v4.9
for Minecraft 1.2.5 SSP

by FifthWhammy

New in v4.9: 1.2.5 compatibility! That's all for now.

This minor (and customizable) mod is intended to take away some of the annoyances you might experience while enchanting items in Minecraft 1.2.5.

Specifically:

- By default, all enchantment costs are halved! (You may adjust this or turn it off using a custom settings file--see below.) A level 50 enchantment now only costs 25 experience levels, a level 15 enchantment now only costs 7 experience levels, and so on. (Cost is rounded down if needed. However, minimum cost is 1 experience level, so no free level 1 enchantments.) The enchant window still displays the enchantment's power, but the new cost is visible as well. You'll still need 30 bookshelves for the maximum power of 50.

Why? Because as it stands now, getting the 50 XP levels for a max enchantment requires you to kill 1785 925 hostile mobs without dying or enchanting anything else. Frankly, I think that's ridiculous. In my opinion, high level enchantments shouldn't be limited to those willing to construct mob grinders and stand in one place whacking mobs for hours. In comparison, reaching XP level 25 requires 455 244 hostile mob kills, which seems more reasonable. (I just discovered that the XP formula was changed for 1.0 and up. Mob counts updated accordingly.)

- You may now increase and decrease the levels of the available enchantments at will! When you place a valid item on an enchantment table, plus and minus buttons will appear at the top right of the GUI. Click them to increase or decrease the slots' enchantment levels by 1; shift-click them to increase or decrease the levels by 10 instead! For convenience, the third enchantment slot will always start with a maximum power enchantment. Note that you cannot increase the enchantment level beyond the table's capability, so you'll still need bookshelves.

Why? Because currently, anyone who wants a certain level has to sit at the enchantment table and drop the item on it over and over and over again, and what fun is that?

- High level enchantments are now more likely to produce multiple effects! For instance, the average level 50 enchantment on a diamond sword would receive multiple effects about 56% of the time. With Sensible Enchanting, that chance is increased to over 70%! Note that low level enchantments (and checks for third and fourth effects) receive a much smaller benefit. If you prefer, this bonus may be adjusted or turned off using a custom settings file.

Why? Because having almost half of highest level enchantments be single-effect seems a bit too weak to me.

- If you enchant an item and are disappointed with the enchantment--say, Knockback II on a level 50 diamond sword--you can immediately reverse the enchantment to recover 80% of the levels you spent! (You may adjust this or turn it off using a custom settings file.) Once you enchant an item, a red reversal slot will appear with the number of levels you can regain displayed in yellow. If, after seeing how your item turned out, you elect to reverse the enchantment, the just-enchanted item will revert to normal and you'll regain those levels! However, due to the strain placed on the item, some of its durability will be lost depending on the strength of the original enhancement. Furthermore, reversal is a one-time opportunity--if you take the item from the table, the enchantment becomes final and you won't get another chance to recover your XP. Choose wisely!

Why? Because if you don't get a satisfactory result, you shouldn't have to earn all of those levels again just for another shot. Although enchanting is random by nature, you deserve to be rewarded for your work.

- At any enchantment table, you can now repair enchanted items for a modest XP cost! (If you prefer, you may disable enchanted item repair or modify the XP cost for repairs using a custom settings file--see below.) The exact cost varies depending on the number of enchantments and the strength of each individual enchantment, but is not affected by the item's type, material, or remaining durability; for instance, that Sharpness III in the screenshot below costs only 3 levels to repair, considerably less than the 20 levels spent to make it!

To repair an enchanted item, simply place it on any enchantment table, and a blue repair slot will appear with the XP cost displayed. (You'll also see the repair slot just after you enchant an item.) However, just as with normal repairs, you'll need to use another item of the same type and material, although this item does not have to be enchanted. After placing that item in the new component space, click the repair slot to add durability back to your enchanted item for the cost of your component item and some XP. Note that attempting to repair enchanted items using a standard crafting grid will still result in the loss of the enchantment, so make sure to do your enchanted item repairs at an enchantment table!

Why? Because enchanted items are meant to be used, after all.

- Bookshelves are no longer obstructed by objects in between them and the enchantment table!

Why? Because some players get confused when they have 30 bookshelves but aren't getting maximum level enchantments because of an errant torch, ladder, or sign. (If you prefer Minecraft's original bookshelf-counting algorithm, you can reactivate it using a custom settings file.)

Screenshots for your viewing pleasure!
First, some v4.0 shots of enchantment reversal (note that enchantment costs were set to 100% for this demo):

Just after enchanting, you've given the opportunity to reverse it to regain some XP...


...like so! The item was damaged due to the strain of reversing the enchantment, but it's easier to replace items than XP!


Both cost and power are now displayed! Note the plus and minus icons in the top right corner of the GUI.


Clicking on those icons will adjust the levels of the available enchantments!


Place an enchanted item back on the table to see its repair cost.


To repair, place the second item in the component slot and click the blue "repair" slot. (Yes, that's what it says. Original, isn't it?) Unlike vanilla repairs, SE repairs preserve your item's enchantment!

Like most other mods, installation is simple: open your minecraft.jar, drop in the .class files included, and copy the new SEenchant.png file into the jar's gui folder. Delete the jar's META-INF folder if you haven't already. That's it!

That's all for now. Stay tuned for new updates and ports for new Minecraft versions!

Sensible Enchanting is designed for maximum compatibility with other Minecraft mods, overwriting only one base class--the enchantment table block. Most mods that don't modify the enchanting system or the enchanting table block, including TooManyItems, SinglePlayerCommands, and practically all ModLoader mods, can be used alongside SE. However, since SE uses a separate enchantment GUI, inventory mods and GUI mods such as Customizible Inventory may not be able to modify it. (All other GUIs, however, should be changed as expected.)

If you're using a texture pack with custom GUIs, SE's variant of the enchantment GUI won't match your texture pack. Unfortunately, I can't do much about this--I'm a modder, not a magician. Of course, you're welcome to modify or replace SEenchant.png for use with your texture pack.

Custom Settings (NEW!):With the optional custom settings file (SensibleEnchanting.txt), you can disable enchanted item repair or alter the enchantment and repair cost modifiers. Place SensibleEnchanting.txt in your .minecraft directory (where lastlogin and options.txt are found) and modify it to suit your tastes. (The settings file is annotated, so reading it will tell you what sorts of settings are available and what they do.) If you don't install the custom settings file, Sensible Enchanting will use the default values.

If you already have a custom settings file from an earlier version of SE, you can safely keep using it without issue. SE will just use the default values for any new settings your old file left out.

That's all for now!

Download now! (Sensible Enchanting v4.9 for MC 1.2.5, 21 KB, 4/4/2012)

Links to previous versions:
Sensible Enchanting v4.8 for MC 1.2.4, 21 KB, 3/25/2012
Sensible Enchanting v4.7 for MC 1.2.3, 21 KB, 3/5/2012
Sensible Enchanting v4.6 for MC 1.1.0, 21 KB, 2/2/2012
Sensible Enchanting v4.5 for MC 1.1.0, 21 KB, 1/14/2012
Sensible Enchanting v4.0 for MC 1.0.0, 22 KB, 12/8/2011
Sensible Enchanting v3.0 for MC 1.0.0, 18 KB, 12/4/2011
Sensible Enchanting v2.5 for MC 1.0.0, 14 KB, 11/30/2011
Sensible Enchanting v2.0 for MC 1.0.0, 26 KB, 11/25/2011
Sensible Enchanting v1.5 for MC 1.9pre5, 25 KB, 11/15/2011
Sensible Enchanting v1.0 for MC 1.9pre5, 11 KB, 11/11/2011

Special thanks to the fine fellows responsible for the Minecraft Coder Pack. If you'd like to get started with your own Minecraft mods, MCP's a great way to start. (But if you just want to play this mod, you don't need to worry about MCP at all.)

Disclaimer: This Minecraft modification was created by FifthWhammy, who does not own the rights to Minecraft or Minecraft source code. (That's Mojang AB, not me.) You may distribute this modification freely as long as credit is given and this README file is also included. Neither I nor Mojang are responsible for any damage, distress, or data loss suffered by you, the user of this modification. Use at your own risk. Batteries not included.

Quote from LoganGorence

I'd rather just use Factorization.

Quote from ChaosGuardian

1.8 was when variation was taken out of the terrain generator.

Quote from GorgeousTaylor

STRATEGY.

The less gear you have, the more strategy you have to employ.

If you want an easy fight, yes, you can choose to arm yourself with superior gear, but it's not the only option at your disposal.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

Wrong. This issue started a long time ago, when the slime spawn height was changed from max of 16 to max of 40. However, half-slabs in the high position worked to control them. That was an adaption. HOWEVER, now that that adaption no longer works, there is little you can do.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

And let me tell you something: Regular mobs you can prevent from spawning. Slimes? IMPOSSIBLE. All of the solutions you have suggested I cannot do.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

And where did I say something MUST be done? Address only means to put the issue out there; nothing more.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

1.) Oh? So If my house was deep underground for protection and isolation, with no end portal, how would it balance out then?

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

2.) Which I do. But they keep spawning. If I block up the areas outside my house that they spawn, it doesn't even matter; even more spawn directly into my base.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

3.) So you are saying that if I live in a massive underground palace, I should have to deal with hostile monsters because that is their home? I was unaware that mobs were capable of such building.

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

4.) Like I said before, kind sir, I did not say directly that it MUST be changed. The rest of 4 is just blabber. Your sentence, however... OH! I see now. You had the wrong knowledge the entire time. Let me explain:

Quote from Path_Of_Pie

I DO NOT WANT UPSIDE DOWN HALF-SLABS TO ONCE AGAIN PREVENT MOB SPAWNING. THAT WAS MERELY A WAY TO COPE WITH THE ISSUE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SLIME SPAWN HEIGHT REDUCED BACK DOWN TO MAYBE 16.

I felt that the caps and larger font was required so people actually see it. On a lighter note... have a good day.

Quote from BrokenEye

It just confuses me that I'm getting this update from some random stranger I don't know instead of an official update

Quote from Jassie

You have plenty of things that use redstone for decoration. Pistons, lamps, ect.

Coal would be pointless to have a block for since we have obsidian which is basically what a decorative coal block would be.

I fail to see what point you were trying to make anyway. Seriously. I'm not sure I get what part of my post you're arguing against.