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Nov 4, 2013This is a pretty pointless topic XD, but, I think it is kinda wierd. Some people have suggested implementing sounds to go with their deaths, but squids don't make any sounds in real life either. They are hard creatures to understand even in real life.Posted in: Survival Mode
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Sep 2, 2013JamesBond0194TheYouTuber posted a message on Didro & Didis Guns: Way to add guns into MinecraftThis would make pvp more interesting.........Posted in: Suggestions
WE COULD FINALY HAVE WATER GUN FIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!! FULL SUPPORT
Nov 8, 2011Hello all! I just wished to drop in with a concept you may have seen before and probably desire. I am here to give it that nice creative push to help it get on the right track.Posted in: Suggestions
What are tapestries, first of all...
Tapestries are rugs or coats that you hang from walls. They are found in many homes and also as the waving banners on the walls and signs about castle towns.
Tapestries are crafted to hang in 2 ways. When created, they have a 1x3 texture that allows them to be like paintings or standards.
The tapestries can be hung on a wall with enough space or can be hung onto the bottom of a block as long as it has clearance underneath it. You can even place it on or under fences(this is intentional)
This means that tapestries can be free-floating objects that face whichever direction the player places it.
How do you craft it?
Tapestries are meant as indignant mockeries as you have surpassed the game. They are final touches to the large castle that you have been building for what seems an eternity; a mighty testament to your triumph over the natural world. Isn't it only fitting that it's price reflects that?
No? It's just a bunch of wool? I'm being too poetic?! OK, fine.
To create a plain tapestry, the player needs to align ANY COLOR WOOL in a 2x3 formation
This will yield 3 WHITE tapestries. The player is able to then craft the white tapestry with any dye to obtain whichever color tapestry he may desire.
This will allow for 16 tapestry colors, and their textures will be off-loaded to a seperate texture file so the player can easily alter them to their desire.
You'd rather have a flaming skull on the red tapestry? Go for it! This allows the player to have much more creative control of his castle and allow him to create the mood that he sees fit.
Heck, the player doesn't even need to use the tapestry for their intended effect. The player can simply replace the tapestries with doodads like piles of bones, dark brooding fetishes, vines of ivy, unmistakable cracks in the wall, a large mouse hole with red eyes beaming maliciously at you. You get the drift.
BETA CONCEPT: Tapestries can also be combined with item frames to give each tapestry a permanent item. Beware, any item used in the tapestry will be permanently lost in the transition (this is to frustrate those that would attempt to steal your tapestries for easy items).
The tapestries will be just as easy to remove as paintings, the player will be able to straight-up walk through the lower 2 squares of the tapestry so the tapestries won't get in the way even if they physically block the player, if the player removes the supporting block, the tapestries will plop to the ground(mostly because it could be a pain to remove them otherwise).
These blocks operate like other global entities (like paintings and torches and the like) and are memory efficient and light-weight to boot. This means that the dinosaur of a computer that your parents refuse to upgrade won't be hurt by this!
Why would the player want this?
1) This would help immensely beautify their creations and give a stronger sense of identity to the surroundings.
2) They could be used on PVP servers to better decorate the opposing sides.
3) They are a light-weight and flexible addition to the game which I suspect is as easy to make a mod of (proof of concept) as to introduce to the game.
4) They can be used outside of their intended effect to create visual doodads to improve the feel of your brooding lair or make that stone gazebo brim with life.
5) They are easily placeable and easily removed meaning that they are noob and error friendly, but also aesthetically pleasing for the artists that abound.
6) They are a cheaper yet equally used alternative to paintings which will also NOT displace paintings due to the separate functionality.
7) They provide alternate means for hiding secret passages.
What are the negative repercussions
1) They are flammable, keep them away from fire. When on fire, only the top burns, but when the top finishes burning; the entire thing is destroyed.
2) They are easily removed, a griefer only has to poke at it and steal the tapestry. This isn't the most dangerous of concerns as tapestries are easily produced.
3) They are a 1x3 and require as much to be placed efficiently.
I am welcome to feedback and hope to hear comments improving the suggestion including improving the list of positives and bringing to light some of the negatives I've missed.
Jun 28, 2013twigbang posted a message on Weird, strange or otherwise disturbing things found on public serversThe death hole and hopper trap is a great idea. Off topic - back when world holes were a huge issue for servers, the tech admin had a plugin that would fill in world holes when players fell into them.Posted in: Discussion
Worked beautfully too. I fell into a few and they all filled in like normal, except for this one time. i was exploring In the middle of nowhere and there was an entire chunk missing and i thought "i got this" so i jump in and fall. . .and fall. . .and Splat.
Somebody literally mined out the whole chunk down to bedrock. I lost all my loot
Mar 6, 2012Posted in: Suggestions
Last Updated: June 20th, 2013 at 3:55 AM
I pray this becomes at least 1% more popular than my "The Haven" idea. Like the latter idea, this post contains images of what I'm trying to show off. Better I give you that than a baseless wall of text. If this idea gets enough support, I will keep adding to it. This includes good suggestions from other people as well.
This also mixes in with KakarottoYo's idea:
Shouldn't the Nether Villagers be pigmen or something?
No. And I'm probably the 0.00003% of Earth's population that thinks this way. I think Nether Villagers should be something original, or something's that close to being original, and not some cheap Pigmen copy (zombie or otherwise).
I think large minotaur-man creatures represent their defensive nature better than pigmen anyway.
I don't care for the details, I just wanna see images!
Keep scrolling down until you get to the first picture of the red Nether Villager.
So... The Nether Villagers in that image... What are they?
They're a mix between minotaurs and humans. These creatures are a combination of two things, which is sort of like pigmen, so if you wanted these creatures to resemble pigmen in some way, there you go. They are a bit taller than the player.
Why are their left arms nothing but a bone?
Perhaps they all have the same genetic defect. These are one of those things where players must debate that for themselves.
How do they behave normally?
Like their Overworld counterparts, they stay together (although not as tightly) and have different color versions to "resemble" their occupation. They don't need some hulk or golem to protect them, as they can beat the living hell out of enemies (players and mobs alike) all on their own, if provoked, but they attack alone, and not together. They walk slightly slower than a zombie.
With addition of Nether mobs coming out of portals to the Overworld, the Nether Villagers can do this too, though this is painfully rare. Every night has a 1% chance of this happening, and can only happen on a non-raining night. If a N. Villager enters the Overworld, it will just wonder around aimlessly.
How do they behave on the Peaceful difficulty?
Exactly the same as this thread describe's them, but they don't get provoked. Meaning you can beat them as hard as you want without penalty. On Peaceful mode...
What do they live in?
Caves found in the Nether. These caves are often supported by Nether Brick. Torches can be occasionally found in these caves.
How rare are these villages/caves?
About 20% rarer than that of an Overworld village.
What sounds do they make?
They rarely make sound, but when they do, they sound like normal human grunts, although with a very deep pitch and echo. The "Mystic", "Collector" and "Colossus" variations have a much more powerful and distant echo.
When taking damage, they emit a deep "human plus bull" type grunt.
How do they respond to specific world hazards?
Much like any other Nether creature, these new Villagers are unaffected by fire and are slowed when in lava.
If a N. Villager manages to reach the Overworld through a player's portal. The sun not will damage them.
How are they provoked?
They are provoked by either hitting them or stealing from their chests (if they see it). They only get provoked individually, and do not attack in groups like wolves or Zombie Pigmen.
How do they attack?
Just by following you and touching you. Each hit varies depending on the type of N. Villager you provoked. They do not stay hostile, as they will hit you 1-2 times for every time you hit them, stand still and stare at you as if to wait for a response. If you hit them too many times, they will keep hitting you until death. They do not attack as a group if just one N. Villager was hit. A "Collector" N. Villager will never lose its hostility.
Wait, you said they have their own chests?
Yes, unlike the light brown ones found in the Overworld, the ones found in Nether Village caves are a dark red with a yellow lock, but have the exact same mechanics as an Overworld one. You can call them "Nether Chests" or "Dark Chests" if need be. The GUI on the new chests is dark red, rather than the normal grey.
What do they drop on death?
They drop 0-1 horns. They can be used to brew an Angry Potion. The "Baron", "Mystic" and "Collector" types can drop more than just their horns.
What could be found in these new chests?
Look at the list below. Top to bottom = Least to most rare:
- Soul Sand
- Netherbrick Fence
- Iron Ore
- Gold Ore
- Iron Ingot
- Gold Ingot
- Nether Wart Seed
- Ripe Nether Wart
A "Ripe" Nether Wart is something that is only found in a N. Villager chest in an area where an Alchemist lives. As you could have guessed, this new Ripe Nether Wart is chemically altered rather than just physically. In brewing, the Ripe Nether Wart added to a water bottle will create an Excess Potion. Ripe Nether Warts can also be eaten, which will regenerate both health and hunger for 2 minutes.
These potions act like Awkward Potions, but will double any effects and double the time. Any potions created from an Excess Potion will have a green aura, rather than the standard blue one.
Do different colored Nether Villagers have their own attributes?
Yes. See below:
Added Abilities: None
Spawn Chance in Village: 50%
Added Abilities: Does +2 damage. Moves +15% faster. Drops an extra 1-2 exp. orbs on death.
Spawn Chance in Village: 20%
Added Abilities: Does +2 damage with extra knockback. Moves +25% faster. Drops an extra 2-4 exp. orbs on death.
Spawn Chance in Village: 18%
Rampant (Colors based off ShadowKreach's idea)
Added Abilities: Does -2 damage. Moves +50% faster. This is a mob you may not want to kill due to its potential trades. Drops 3-6 exp. orbs on death.
Spawn Chance: 5%
Hunter (Based off DeJoth's idea)
Added Abilities: Does +2 damage. Moves +15% faster. Attacks Zombie Pigmen, Magma Cubes and Ghasts that come near them. Drops 2 extra exp. orbs on death. Can jump up to 3 blocks in height.
Spawn Chance in Village: 15%
Added Abilities: Does +2 damage with extra knockback. Moves +10% faster. Can seldomly "telekenetic" punch any enemy from 10 blocks away, although this can easily dodged as the Mystic will remain completely still when "charging" this "telekenetic" punch. This is the only mob that can flawlessly hurt a Ghast if they're close enough. When killed, this mob can drop any valid item in Minecraft's existence. Drops an extra 2-4 exp. orb on death. Can sometimes deflect arrows. Immune to all splash potion effects.
Spawn Chance in Village: 7%
Added Abilities: Does +8 damage with insane knockback. Will never lose its hostility once made. Each hit has a 30% chance to make the player drop any item in his inventory at random. Will drop 1-3 of any rare item on death, as well as 35 experience.
Spawn Chance in Village: 2%
Added Abilities: Oh my friend, you're looking at the rarest gem of Nether Villagers. Moves +20% faster. Will never become hostile against players, although it can never take damage. Receives -30% knockback. Can teleport just like an Enderman, but this occurs only when it wants to return to its "village area" and can't get back to it by just average walking and jumping. Go ahead, add some ingots in his village's chest, and see how friendly he really is.
Spawn Chance in Village: 0.05% (1% on Hardcore)
Do these Nether Villagers have their own spawn eggs in Creative Mode?
Yes, and each Nether Villager type has their own chance amount of appearing when the egg is used:
- Normal - 90%
- Torus - 85%
- Baron - 70%
- Rampant - 50%
- Hunter - 45%
- Tormenter - 10%
- Colossus - 0%
Where exactly in these Nether Villager caves do the dark red chests exist?
In the deepest part of their caves, although they can be rarely found near the cave's entrance as well.
How big can these caves be?
Imagine a normal Overworld village fitting inside a cave, that's how big they can be.
New Questions/Answers Added as of 3/29/2012 9:31PM
How do they inflict damage?
They do NOT always do the max amount of damage that you see in the list of Nether Villager types. They can also do a minimum of -4 hit points of damage. For example, a Baron is capable to doing between 4 and 8 points of damage, which is randomized between these limits.
New Questions/Answers Added as of 7/13/2012 3:41PM
Do these Nether Villagers trade like the normal ones?
Yes, the currency they accept is Blood Diamonds, here is a chart of what each N. Villager trades.
Normal, Torus and Baron
They do not sell items.
Hunters have no interest in trading.
Tormenters have no interest in trading.
Tormenters have no interest in trading.
New Questions/Answers Added as of 7/28/2012 1:59PM
What does an Enchanting Orb do?
If you're lucky enough to have a Mystic appear, and not ed off enough to not trade with you, you'll have access to this item. An Enchanting Orb can be used to give any weapon or tool a single random enchantment at no level cost, but it will only give it the weakest version of an enchantment, so it's best to this orb when something is already enchanted.
Using this orb on an already enchanted item will make all existing enchantments upgrade an interval. Meaning "Sharpness III" can be set to "Sharpness IV". Enchantments at their highest levels will go no higher. If all enchantments are maxed out, a new enchantment at its weakest is added.
Jun 19, 2013RoyUniverse posted a message on Weird, strange or otherwise disturbing things found on public serversWhen i was playing on a survival games server, i was walking around the main lobby area and stumbled across a button. I pressed it and a piston door opened up. i walked in and saw a stripper club.Posted in: Discussion
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secret door coords: -1390 5 1869
Jun 19, 2013Scum posted a message on Weird, strange or otherwise disturbing things found on public serversI was the admin of a server once and I got asked to marry two players. They seemed pretty in love so I obliged :3Posted in: Discussion
Apr 7, 2013MegaTrain posted a message on MegaVillage: Manage 100+ villager trades + iron golem farmI can't imagine I'm the first to come up with something like this, but this was developed while playing a survival challenge map that requires a great deal of villager trading (OceanBlock 4.1, give it a try! See pp 36-37 for a discussion of this village). I wanted a way to keep the villagers separate, so I could trade with them individually.Posted in: Survival Mode
Here is what we came up with. The first 5 minutes of this video show off the village, the rest describes how to build it:
The basic outline is an inner 20x20 square containing the iron golem farm, inside an outer 38x38 square. There are two rows of wooden doors outside the outer wall.
The innovative feature is the "villager slots", which allow you to trap a villager with a fence. If you like the villager trade, label them with a sign. If not, drop a couple of sand on their head.
Here is an overhead view of the plan:
This plan gives 103 villager slots, and the 286 outside doors should generate exactly 100 villagers.
As far as building materials (assuming all wood construction), this would take:
1600 planks for the base platform (if necessary)
542 more planks for the walls
327 slabs for the walls
211 fences (assuming all villager slots are filled)
10 fence gates
103 signs (assuming all slots are filled)
107 of those fences and all 103 signs aren't needed until you start getting the villagers into slots.
This breaks down to a grand total of 6.3 stacks of wood for the platform, and an additional 11.7 stacks of wood for all the pieces.
Any further ideas for how to improve it?
Post your pics of your MegaVillage in this thread!
Aug 29, 2012Super-Large Idea: Movement ImprovementPosted in: Suggestions
Please read the whole idea before replying.
It took me quite a while, actually weeks, to make this with the help of my awesome technical adviser, Jareth, and I recently revised the whole thing in preparation for posting it on the Minecraft Forums, so this is a little long! The idea is simple, but the explanation is complex. I propose that the movement animations for the player be revamped to look cooler and more realistic, and new movement capabilities be added. An example of this would be the Minecraft Smart Moving mod, which you can find out more about, watch videos of, and download here. However, it can be improved upon, for it is only an imperfect method for better movement. The main problem with that mod is that almost everything is over-complicated requiring multiple precisely timed button-presses to do a relatively simple task, like jumping head-first/diving. Please note that these suggestions require some sort of stamina bar. It might be an actual bar you can see, or a number in the code. I'll let Mojang decide. (I will assume it's an invisible variable, on the presumption that Mojang thinks there are enough bars to monitor already.) I've hidden many paragraphs in spoilers, for ease of access.
There should be variations of each animation, these are just examples and general ideas of how they should look. Also I guess this is a good place to mention it would be nice to be able to turn your head at least 90 degrees. =)
Instead of flailing arms and legs, you fall backwards and quickly get up.
This is the animation we have now:Looks kinda silly, right? When players get hit, sure, they can fly back a little! However, who really does the flail arms and legs uselessly thing? We need a more macho animation:In this animation, you fall down backwards after being hit and flying some. If you are knocked off a cliff, you flip into the falling position, where you can do abilities explained later in this topic. You jump back up quickly though, after less than a second. You can still fight back in that brief moment on the ground, but you can't move. You're on your feet long before your opponent can get ready to sprint-hit you again. When you are hit, your stamina could go down, simulating pain and battle fatigue.
Varies the weapon swinging to make it less boring and repetitive.
Wait! Why am I talking about getting hit before hitting? We swing weapons with the same, boring, old, up-down, up-down swing. What we need is some variation! Let's swing swords, axes, pickaxes, and shovels sideways, spin, and stab! "Hi-yah! Slice! Boom with the lightning!"-The Lost Hero. We could have Steve slash sideways for a devastating sprint attack, and cleave downwards when jumping/falling! This concept is awesome, because if you can make different animations for different actions, you can also vary the damage caused! Each swing would take a little stamina, and your swings would be slightly delayed (and perhaps deal less damage) if your stamina is low. When it is out, you will be unable to swing your weapon until it regenerates to above the "low" level.
Swimming and Underwater Swimming Animations:
Makes swimming look way more real.Let's be realistic, do you really swim this way? In fact, can you swim this way? Let's have Steve at least swim horizontally. Your stamina bar would decrease slowly, forcing you to tread water(swim without pressing forward) until your stamina has recovered to the low amount, or sink(swim down at an angle instead of forward). The Smart Moving mod does the swimming animation nicely!Also, swimming down is implemented in the mod. Can you imagine doing the above stroke underwater? This expends slightly more stamina than swimming, but not so much that it runs out before your air bar.<<<<<<<<<<
Makes you fly like superman!
<<<<<<<<<< Throwing Animation: Adds a non-existent cool-looking throwing animation.
The current flying animation is cool, like I mean who doesn't like walking on air?(okay that was a really bad pun.)I like it, but we can do better.Boom! This wouldn't change the flying movement any, unlike the SM mod, unless you set the setting that makes it go straight towards where you're looking, changing your altitude. Personally I find the current way that doesn't change that useful for seeing if two blocks are at the same height, but that's just me.Throwing things would be nice too. Splash Potions (that should get thrown farther, like Snowballs and Ender Pearls) would be boss with this animation. Snowballs, Eggs, Eyes of Ender, and Ender Pearls would also benefit! Stamina would be affected and effect throwing the same way swinging a sword does.<<<<<<<<<<
Makes you realistically flail your arms when falling.Yeah, people just stay in the same position with their arms at their sides and look down when falling. In reality, we scream very heroically and flail our arms, like this:
Should these ideas be implemented, you would be a more versatile warrior, miner, and Redstone engineer! You would be able to look cooler, attack better, throw farther, jump higher, kick harder, skydive longer, swim farther, dive from higher, crawl more stealthily, hang off cliffs, climb up walls, impersonate Endermen, roll up stairs, use both hands, and ride the Enderdragon! Oh, and I guess now is as good a time as any to say that all human-type mobs can do this too... *Zombie apocalypse starts*
Adds the ability to dive headfirst while you're in the air, accelerating your decent.
Suggested Controls: Space while you're in the air.
The SM mod also introduces diving, what they call "head jumping"! What the mod should have done, though, is to cause the player to dive automatically when falling directly above water. That would be toggle-able, because it could potentially be annoying. Of course you could take manual control of diving by holding the Space while falling, because it accomplishes nothing else, and is natural! Diving accelerates your fall, and if you're on fire, this can put it out. This doesn't need to reduce stamina much, as jumping would take stamina.
Adds the ability to kick, dealing heavier damage and knockback, but taking more stamina than a punch. A possibility is that it moves single blocks with low blast resistance backward one block.
Right Mouse Button with empty Secondary Hand.I need to kick stuff!!! If you haven't noticed already, you can punch, but how come there's no kick? Kicking would deal more damage, and give extra knockback. This is a neat suggestion: Make kicking a block move it like a piston! Of course, you wouldn't be able to move rows of blocks, just a single one at a time, like in the game Cubis. Also, things would get crazy if people could move Bedrock or Obsidian! "SWEET! You can kick holes in the bedrock!! Check it! *kicks* AHHHHHHHH---NOT THE DIAMONDSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Best feature: You can kick down wooden doors and break thin glass windows, if the /gamerule command is set =)>>>>>>>>>>
This new move replaces sneaking. You are able to move in tunnels one block tall, and can't fall off block edges.
Shift Key on the ground.
Forget the stupid sneak position! It's absolutely no help in dodging Blaze fireballs, and is generally useless when compared to this:Crawling makes the player one block tall and two blocks long, instead of the other way around. You can dodge Ghast fireballs, go in midget tunnels, and a whole bunch of other neat things! This makes sneaking unnecessary, so to crawl, we can use the Crawl button, which just happens to be the old Sneak button(Shift). Of course, when crawling, you wouldn't fall off block edges, like when you're sneaking. Now sneaking is totally useless, and you can hide in your wheat fields! However we can still keep sneak around for those who like it, inactive with no default control.
Charging your jump lets you jump up to two blocks!
Hold Space to charge, and release Space to jump.
In the Smart Moving mod, they introduce charged jumping. The mod makes it hard to do fast, when you need it, by making the player sneak before jumping. Jumping is easy, and let's let it remain so. Hold the jump button(Space) to charge. Release to jump.This would be the only time the current sneak position is used, when you're charging the jump, the sneak position is automatically entered. Stamina would deplete slowly while charging, and violently decrease during the jump, depending on its power.
I'll mention here that you can also jump sideways and backwards, charged or not. =)
Slows your fall and allows greater horizontal movement while falling.
Press Shift while you're in the air!
If you hold the Shift while falling, you will act like a skydiver to slow your descent, but if you land like that, you will take extra damage. While falling in the skydiving position, you can use the arrow keys to direct your fall.This could inspire some interesting sports, for instance an often fatal competition where people jump off cliffs and dodge obstacles on the way down, then plunge into water. Instead of water, some could use lava without the foreknowledge of the players, so they are forced to slow themselves down to land somehow and not get scorched!
Ledge Grabbing and Climbing:
Ledge Grabbing allows you to cling to a block-sized ledge and shuffle sideways along it, while Ledge Climbing allows you to climb up onto the ledge you're grabbing.
Press Shift in the air near a ledge to Ledge Grab and press the forward key to Ledge Climb.Also done by the SM mod, ledge climbing and grabbing would make a useful movement. It could be done by pressing Shift while in the air next to an edge. This means that you can jump and grab, or fall and grab. This would override skydiving. I mean, when would you not want to grab the edge instead of falling and dying? Climbing up onto the edge would be done by pressing the forward button while grabbing the ledge:Shuffling sideways would be done by pressing the left and right buttons. This would take stamina for as long as it's done. Moving while grabbing would take even more stamina, especially climbing. When the low position is reached, players would be unable to climb up; attempting to do so would raise the player some, but reduce his stamina dramatically. When a player has no stamina left, they will let go and fall. If your fall speed is too great, trying to ledge climb would result in slower speed, but you would take reduced fall damage and keep falling.>>>>>>>>>>
Lets you get on top of/over 2 block high walls with ease.
Lazy Vault: Jump after Jumping at a 2 block high wall. Speed Vault: Jump after Jumping while Sprinting at a 2 block high wall.
This is a modified idea from Cobalt32 on the original post. There can be multiple types of vaults, some that are faster and harder, some slower and easier. I will put two vaults into this topic. The purpose of a vault is to get over two block high barriers faster or using less stamina than Ledge Climbing, which can be quite slow. So, first is the Lazy Vault, it takes less stamina than a Ledge Climb, but still gets you up two blocks. To do this, jump at the wall and when you're near it and in the air, jump again, and hold the button until you're over. In this vault you place your hands on top of the barrier, and swing your legs up and over one at a time. If you let go of the jump button while you're not over, you collapse onto the fence and take a little damage.If you had wanted to charge your jump instead, you usually would have stayed still while charging. In the Speed Vault, you have to sprint-jump then strike and hold the jump button until you're over, but it quickly throws your body parallel to the ground and over the wall, saving your hide from the 20 skeletons shooting your back! Unless you forget to hold the jump button, then you fall onto the fence/wall and take moderate damage, but hey, you can still get over! If you're not dead.There's an automatic setting that lets you do a Lazy Vault when single jumping near a wall like this, but you can't do Speed Vaults when it's on. It's like in Mario Kart, you can do Automatic Drift(easier) or Manual Drift(Harder, but you get speed boosts).
Wall and Ceiling Climbing:
Wall Climbing allows you to climb up walls and fences that have half-slab to full block sized holes in them, and Ceiling Climbing allows you to grab certain blocks like Iron Bars and hang from and/or swing across them.
To wall climb press forward against a wall with half-block to full block sized holes in it, press Shift to stop vertical motion. To Ceiling Climb press Shift in the air while directly beneath a grab-able block(Iron Bars, Fences, etc.), then use WASD to monkey-bar under grab-able blocks.This would be an alternate way of climbing up walls and fences, using gaps like slabs and even whole blocks in the face of a wall. Just press forward like the wall is a ladder. To stay at your elevation, press the Shift, like you're on a ladder.Also, certain blocks like Iron Bars support ceiling climbing. You can swing across lava lakes! Use Shift while in the air and below a grab-able block, like a fence. This would take the same amount of stamina as ledge grabbing, and moving with the walking buttons would take as much as sideways movement while ledge grabbing.<<<==========>>>*Catches breath* Well, that was all the easy stuff. Now take a break, look at Boats Evolved, discuss genetic defects in Creepers, and read on for the good stuff!<<<==========>>>
Block Moving: Allows you to pick up blocks one at a time and re-place them elsewhere without breaking them, slowly using stamina according to the blast resistance of the block.
Middle click while pointing at a non-Bedrock/Obsidian block.So here's the deal: Endermen can move blocks. Steve can't. What's up with that? Yeah, he can destroy and re-place blocks, but that can take too much time. If a lava trap spews lava in a room with Redstone all over the floor, instead of switching to a pickaxe and mining the floor to plug the gap, by which time all the hard work and time you put into those circuits has gone to waste, you could just grab the nearest block and block the hole. The middle mouse button sounds like a good candidate for such an important function! You could place the block by middle-clicking, and hit with it using the left one, effectively disabling the current selected hotbar item while carrying a block. Carrying a block would be a minimal stamina drain. Also, you can't pick blocks from flat surfaces, there's nowhere to grab it. So if a block is part of a wall, tough, but if it's lying on the ground or it's a stalagtite, or part of a ledge, yeah, you can get that diamond ore from the far side of the lava river! But you can't pick it straight out of the wall. You gotta do it like a man, and lose it in the lava!>>>>>>>>>>
Rolling lets you roll. Fall damage is reduced if rolling when hitting the ground.Suggested Controls: Roll(F or Crtl) button while optionally pressing a direction.This is a hard one. It's literally the problem of "How to Make a Brick Roll". If the animation is fast enough, no noticeable mesh errors will be visible. Hopefully no weird bugs will result from being hit/shot/other while this is happening. Rolling would require it's own button to use, perhaps the "F" key or the Crtl button. You could roll sideways, forwards, and backwards. During the backwards roll animation in third-person view, you would face the camera while rolling before turning back around. If in first-person view, you should note that the camera will roll during the sideways rolls, not the forward and backward ones, to avert the confusion of the camera flipping over. In third person, you would just see Steve roll. This will be very useful as a dodge move, but take like a third of your stamina! Another plus is that if you hit the ground rolling, your fall damage is decreased! Even when you roll straight into a wall... but then you get collision damage(ouch). The picture for this has proven too hard for me, as I said, you can't really make it look good unless it's really fast. Or you have joints, which would rock, but I'll leave it out of this idea in case I make it look too complex. (What it isn't already?)>>>>>>>>>>
Lets the player use two items independently at the same time, one item in each hand.
Left and Right Mouse Buttons.
At one point, the duel wielding of items was reportedly being worked on by Mojang. This would be very useful, for obvious reasons. I will give my two cents as to how this should work. First of all, the Left Mouse Button would control the Left Hand, and the Right Mouse Button the right hand. This would be reversible in the Options, and I would do that to match the primary finger to the primary hand, as I am right-handed.This could be confusing, even though it shouldn't matter, because either way still functions the same. When used, an item would do its main action, with some exceptions. An item's main action is what it does best, for instance, a Pickaxe would break/hit the target, but a dirt block would be placed. This means that you can't break a block while using two blocks. You can use two swords to do fast damage, but you wouldn't be able to block attacks, and your stamina would deplete very fast. When targeting a mob, a block cannot be placed, so using a block would hit the mob. If wielding only one item in your primary hand(the one you click the left mouse button to use), the controls revert to semi-normal. This means that you do the main use for the item with your Left Mouse Button, and do its secondary use them with the Right Mouse Button. The same goes for the secondary hand, except the left and right button's functions are swapped, so main use with right button. This effectively means you can block with a sword. Also if you click on a block with a GUI with a hand not holding a tool and not empty, it opens the GUI, or if you have two empty/tool holding hands, the Right Mouse Button will open the GUI. The controls are reverted to normal in two other ways: You turn duel-wielding off in the options (underlined for clarity), or you use an item that requires two hands to operate, like a Bow, or a Map. Another hotbar selection indicator is needed for the secondary hand. Scrolling the mouse-wheel up would move the primary selector; down, the secondary. The hotbar would be much easier to manage with Item Drop-Down Keys! When either of the selectors selects an item that requires two hands, the other selector disappears until the item is deselected. Each item has a designated stamina usage, or it uses the default amount, the same as punching. Mining with two pickaxes may be fast, but it takes a lot of energy. Hitting with a feather only takes as much energy as punching!>>>>>>>>>>
Allows the player to grab hold of and ride a mob. The player can hit the mob while doing this.
Middle mouse button while near to and pointing at a mob.
This idea is crazy! I hope you like crazy, because you're telling Mojang if this should be added. If you hold the middle mouse Button while you are within 2 blocks of and looking at a mob, you will hop on its back and let it take you for a ride! As long as you hold the middle mouse button while looking at the mob, the mob will try to shake you off and go crazy trying to get rid of you, and you will slide a little left and right, but as long as you look at the mob(if you're sliding off right look more left to stay on), or until your stamina runs out, which it will, fast, you'll stay on. You'll still be able to hit the mob, but slower, as you'll be holding on with one hand, and it will use twice the stamina. Watch out Enderdragon! Now I'm the backstabber!This would be risky, as you could suffer suffocation, fall, and drowning damage as well as the possibility of getting lost on the Enderman Express, falling into lava or the Void, getting blown up while riding a Creeper, and/or getting attacked by other hostile mobs nearby. I would assume you get a little bashed up as they move, maybe a couple hearts here and there... and of course you'd get shot in the back by nearby Skeletons, Wither Skeletons, Blazes, and Ghasts. However, this could have great benefits, as you could attack and kill mobs without them being able to harm/run away from you. Used in combination with the Potion of Fire Resistance, it would be easier to collect rare Ghast Tears and Blaze Rods by skydiving at your airborne target and clamping onto it, a skill only the best and luckiest could pull off. Whole new YouTube channels could be created off this feature alone! Imagine: Ghast Riders: Season 3!
I love this idea by koopachris =D
"You should be able to ride players as well. To make it be useful but not OP in PvP AND outside of PvP encounters, I propose the idea of dyanmic shaking. A fancier way of saying "The harder you shake, the faster they fall off". If you want to carry an inexperienced player through a certain spot, you can move slowly and turn gently. It will use up hardly any of their stamina at all. If someone jumps onto you and starts attacking, though, you can shake them off more quickly by jumping around and shaking your view around. The harder you shake, the faster their stamina drains and the farther they get thrown off. Each would have a cap, of course."
I think it would just be consistent to have all mobs try to shake you off like this, depending on the difficulty level, to make it harder to ride them. Passive mobs would settle down after a while, so like you could ride a cow, and it would go crazy but after a few seconds it'd just let you ride it =)
It would be cool if we could sit down too. =) (Idea by Ouatcheur)
This bit is a sample of what the controls could be like if all the ideas in this topic were implemented:
No Items Held:
Left Click: Punch
Right Click: Kick
One Item Held in Right Hand:
Right Click: Main Use
Left Click: Secondary Use
One Item Held in Left Hand
Left Click: Main Use
Right Click: Secondary Use
Two Items Held:
Left Click: Primary Item Main Use
Right Click: Secondary Item Main Use
Middle Click: Block Move
Middle Click ad hold on mob while within 2 blocks of it: Mob Ride
Hand or Right Mouse Button on GUI Block: Opens GUI
On ground: Forward, Left, Back, and Right
On ladder/vine/Wall Climbing: Up, Left, Down, Right
Ledge Grabbing: Ledge Climb, Shuffle Left, Shuffle Right, If possible, Wall Climb.
On ground: Jump
On ground, hold and release: Charged Jump
In air: Dive
In air, right after Jump next to 2 high wall: Lazy Vault
In air, sprinting right after Jump next to 2 high wall: Speed Vault
In water: Swim
On ground Holding Shift: Crawl Jump
Shift:On ground: Crawl
In air: Skydive
In air near ledge: Ledge Grab
In air under grab-able block: Ceiling Climb
On ladder/wall: Hold position
Note 1: I think the "F" key is better than Crtl because I use my pinky finger for shift, making it hard to do Shift+Crtl.
Note 2: You can roll from almost any position, like crawl-roll, air-roll, jump-roll, etc.
Double-tap W+anything is sprint and makes it go faster, but uses more stamina(think sprint-crawling). Keep in mind that all the controls should be configurable!
I realize the coding to implement this would be complex, and this could take a whole update(or 2) in itself. Perhaps Divisor will add these suggestions to his mod, and simplify the controls as suggested, and Mojang will work with him. I will leave the details to them. I'm confident our team at Mojang can pull it off!
I would like to thank, first of all, Markus Persson aka "Notch" for creating Minecraft! Also, I would like to thank all of the Mojang team, including two persons commonly known as "Dinnerbone" and "Jeb", for assisting Notch in his work and being awesome, and Michael Shepherd-Finch, for being the coolest former Mojang on Get Satisfaction Moderator ever! Also several other people deserve credit, including Jareth, for introducing me to the Smart Moving mod and co-authoring this topic, ThesurusRex84 for the Google SketchUp models, and a bunch of former Mojang on Get Satisfaction members, including werty8472, Doug, Jonathan Hall, The_Schnebbz, Cobalt32, 42ah42, and ShadowSplicer, for being awesome and generally helpful. Also I would definitely like to thank 42ah42 for moderating the Ender-Forums.
These next people all had something to do with the Smart Moving mod, which I used for some of the pictures and to develop my idea, so I'll thank them for that: Divisor for the Smart Moving mod and the PlayerAPI, BlackDragonIV for the tutorial videos, Jamioflan for the ModLoaderMp, and Risugami for the ModLoader.
And if there are any modders willing to take this challenge...
Feel free to contact me, and I'll hook you up with anybody else that's working on this... Right now there's nobody =/ If you could do this that would just be really awesome!
Please Read Before Commenting: FAQ!If you have any questions at all, please read the whole topic or at least the pertinent section before asking! Most of these are from posts on this topic, so don't be surprised if you see the same wording in a reply somewhere. =)Please hit the like button even if you think Mojang will never add this, more like theoretically increases the probability!
Frequently Asked Questions:
Isn't this just a clone of the Smart Moving mod?
Please do not tell me that this is a copy of the Smart Moving Mod, it isn't! The SM mod does not include Rolling, Mob Riding, Duel Wielding, Skydiving and other things included in this idea. It's key combinations differ vastly from these and in my opinion are inferior. Besides, posting "There's a mod for that" is against the rules.
Hasn't some of this been suggested before?
I'm sure a lot of this has been suggested. But has it been suggested in this combination of movements designed to work together? I doubt it.
Y US CAN HAZ NO SNEAKING???
You can have Sneaking, it's just not assigned to a key by default.
Doesn't this give you a huge advantage over mobs?
Whoever said zombies couldn't do these things too? It'd only be realistic if they could. Also, assuming zombies couldn't crawl, crawling is a relatively slow movement, you'd probably take at least 10 damage points(5 hearts) before you got through a one block hole, and if you were running for shelter, it'd usually be because you were getting killed already.
Will this lag my computer/server?
Absolutely not. The Smart Movement guys did it with no lag on my low-end system, in fact I get less lag(I have no idea how) than I do with default. Mojang can do that too =)
How would creepers get back up from knockback?
Wouldn't skydiving be useless because you'd fall really fast anyway?
I've found you can fall about 54 blocks in 2 seconds normally. So from world height to bedrock, that's like 9 seconds normally, and skydiving would probably make it 10 to 13 seconds. Count off 13 seconds and you'll see that's pretty long.
Won't this break all out builds and maps?
About breaking builds: "Unless they really had lame forts... Forts and castles generally have walls higher than 4 blocks. As for the rest, I'm sure people will figure out how to unbreak them, after all, this is minecraft! people improvise, when something doesn't work, they fix it, when something new is added, they take advantage of it. Minecrafters solve problems with their creativity! We aren't a stupid people! We are intelligent, and that's why minecraft is fun! The awesomeness outweighs the oldness of builds. =) New builds will just be awesomer than EVAR!"About breaking traps: "How could wall climbing and ceiling climbing make a trap useless? unless it has holes in it's walls or fence/iron bar ceilings, you couldn't use either in a trap. TNT traps would still be as hard to escape as ever. Pit traps wouldn't be as effective with Skydiving and Rolling, but you could easily put lava or fire or cactus or something in the bottom to kill the person falling, or make it deeper, but all a pit usually does is put another player in a continent spot to kill him/her. That's not even counting the dispenser, crushing, drowning, and void traps, and all of the other traps!"
Oh crap, zombies will be trampling all over my fence-protected farms! Now what?
I guess mobs would be "lazy" and not climb over unless they're stalking the player(s). Unlike spiders, they couldn't just wander into a fence and climb over. As fences are generally used around farms, and usually you don't farm at night(well at least I don't), fences should still serve their purpose.
Can you add bendable limbs and/or more joints to this?
I considered that when I was writing this topic, but I don't want to make the idea seem way too far-fetched. However I fully support more joints, because "the closer we get to those kick-ass blender animations, the better!"
Stamina sucks. =(
Well, if you want people climbing walls to the sky limit and ceilings across the nether and rolling forever, and skilled people riding mobs until they die of hunger damage(of course they'd be killed by the mobs they're riding long before that) Also the stamina bar is invisible, it's not like you'd ever notice it; all it really is is a limit on how long/fast you can do stuff. I know people who would spam enchanted duel blades forever...
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Do you support any other ideas?
Yes! I really wish that the MC forums would let us have 2 urls, so we could have pics and a link! And nametags shouldn't show through walls. Also Boats Evolved rocks! I actually based the form of this idea somewhat after ThesurusRex84's idea, putting a paragraph or so then a picture to illustrate. =) I strongly support Boats Evolved, so here's a link for those who haven't heard!!!
This is freaking awesome!!!
That wasn't even a question.
I know that.
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