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Quote from darkjedi911

Hey Kastrel,

Good job on making it as far as you have.,..I think I would have given up a long time ago.

Anyway I was wondering if anyone here could give me any tips on how to quickly/easily gather about 3500 planks. I don't really have any bonemeal saved up in any chests (for instantly growing trees) and because I am a major wuss I pretty much exclusively play on peaceful, limiting my ability to actually get said bonemeal.

I am using thess planks to make all the signs required for my ridiculously oversized mobtrap (hoping that Mojang changes the 40 block mob freezing feature). I could possibly make another smaller mobtrap to farm for the skeletons...but I would prefer not to do this.

Kind regards,
Darkjedi911.

Hey, 3500 planks isn't so bad! You will want to build a very good tree farm at some point, if you are trying to collect any amount of stuff. 3500 planks is 875 wood; if you grow regular trees in a compact, indoor treefarm with a roof height of six, virtually every tree will have 4 blocks worth. So thats only 218 trees you need to grow, plus maybe another 10 for the cost of making the farm and the axes. Go hollow out a 23x23x6 area underground, OR, build such a structure above ground, if you so please. (I like indoors). Make the interior floor look like this:

























Build that, or something similar, and literally just COAT it with saplings. You can put a few torches on the center dirt as well; it will cost you a tree spot per torch, but it will help some of the interior trees grow later on. Make sure the place is well lit. This facility can hold 400 saplings, minus however many torches you add. I promise you, they will grow fast. I bet you if you took the first hundred tree blocks and worked on your grinder with those, by the time you came back, you would have another hundred trees grown! Bonemeal is NOT necessary! Just keep yourself busy a while, and it will grow.

Quote from Jinzha

Kastrell, I saw you posting in a topic about Nether Wart, so I was wondering... Have you found any (semi-)automated farming techniques of farming these thingies?

The only thing I can think of is to have pistons UNDER the entire farm to bump the entire farm up a block, flinging the netherwart off. You would then have to replant.

Problem is this: netherwart is like wheat, but with only 3 stages instead of 8, but just as much randomness. The problem is that it takes a LONG, LONG time for your entire crop to reach stage 3, but not nearly so long for half or more to reach stage 3. If you waited for the entire crop to be worth harvesting, you would waste a lot of time. Its better to manually harvest each stage 3 crop as it appears, then replant.

That being said, netherwart is REAL easy, and it doesn't require that. Each harvest yields 2-5 netherwart, which is 1 to replant, and a profit of 1-4. If you are trying to start a farm, you can find about 20-30 netherwart crops, ungrown usually, in a newly explored stronghold. That 30, planted, will probably only take an hour or two to be 100, and then only another hour or so to reach 300.

And thats what I have; an enclosed set of 4 lots of 75 soulsand, which is 300. Starting on it last night, I already have a quarter of a chest worth. (and I've been asleep most of the day!). The bigger the better, too. Since netherwarts growth is highly randomized, the more you have, the more likely you get some growing fast, which means you can harvest them sooner. If a single netherwart crop is creates an average of 2.5 more seeds an hour (just a figure for the sake of argument), then you can just scale that up. 100 will make 250, 500 will make 1250. An additional hour of preparation for your farm can reduce the time you wait by several hours later.

Really, netherwart is an easy item. Also, its worth noting, there are no secrets or tricks. The light/fire rumors are incorrect. It is true that it ONLY grows in the nether though. It cannot be trampled, and if you harvest it pre-maturely, it always gives 1 seed. Its a very simple crop.

Quote from fengaton77

Its on wiki -.-

Wikis are a fan-edited page. While a valuable source of information, they are quite, quite capable of being wrong. The wiki was wrong this time.

Its also worth pointing out that the wiki has been updated, and it longer says this:

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_wart

Quote: Factors such as light level or proximity to lava do not appear to affect the growth rate of Nether Wart, and it does not respond to bone meal. - The wiki

Quote from fengaton77

Place fire next to it , its grows faster

Quote from Kiki_The_Kitty

They will grow faster when a light source is placed near them.

Quote from Spader

put it on soul sand in the nether. grows faster by a light source.

I just did my own nether wart farm last night, and I did a lot of research; research indicating that this is nothing more than a rumor. There are a lot of videos showing this on youtube.

Just grow it in the nether, as much as possible at once, on soul sand. Thats all there is to it.

Quote from dabears17x

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but will anyone be collecting ores (Like diamond), with the silk touch enchantment? (This enchantment makes the block you mine, drop)

Even with the gold and iron ores, already collectable, I saw no reason to collect them. Only in rare, rare cases would they have an aesthetic use, and they are basically just unprocessed iron/gold. These new silk touch exclusive ores (coal, lapis, redstone, diamond) are pretty much the same. There is no reason to get them. The ONLY one I can consider is redstone; it has that "light on touch" ability which could be very cool in certain building concepts.

In essence; why gather unprocessed ore? Especially with something like diamond, which requires doubling my diamond needs.

Quote from The Vault Dweller

I have no idea but the worlds I use love not spawning ANY hostile mobs. I need slimes to spawn in the designated area so i can get sticky pistons for my blaze farm to get copious amounts of XP.

EDIT: In the new update, apples now drop from trees with a 1/200 chance to drop.

Yes indeed! Apples are now on the list of accepted items; amusing, since they were actually the HARDEST item on the excluded list, given that they did not spawn period!

Also, I thought about what I would keep in a single double chest to transport to a new world (comprised ONLY with things I actually have, otherwise it would just be a chest of diamond blocks)!

1 enchanted diamond pickaxe with Fortune 3/Unbreaking 4
1 stack of 64 diamond blocks
1 stack of 50 diamond blocks
5 stacks of gold blocks
10 stacks of lapis blocks
21 stacks of iron blocks
1 stack of obsidian
1 golden apple
1 stack of 64 cocoa beans
1 stack of 30 cocoa beans
1 stack of redstone repeaters
1 stack of sticky pistons
2 stack of glowstone
1 stack of ghast tears
1 stack of spider eyes
1 stack of blaze rods
2 stacks of Eyes of Ender (I don't actually have them, but I have the ingredients to make them)
1 dragon egg
1 stack of 2 locked chests

New list time!

Dirt - DONE
Sand - DONE
Glass - DONE
Glass Panes - DONE
Sandstone - DONE
Gravel - DONE
Clay - DONE

Obsidian
8/54 stacks

End Stone
3/54 stacks

Cobblestone - DONE
Mossy Cobblestone - DONE
Birchwood - DONE
Pinewood - DONE
Normal Wood - DONE
Leaves - DONE
Birch Leaves - DONE
Pine Leaves - DONE
Cactus - DONE

Pumpkin
32/54 stacks

Pumpkin Seeds
0/54 stacks

Jack'o'Lantern
0/54 stacks

Watermelon Seed - DONE
Watermelon Slices - DONE

Watermelon Blocks
0/54 stacks

Glistering Melon
0/54 stacks

Red Flower - DONE
Yellow Flower - DONE
Normal Wood Sapling - DONE
Birchwood Sapling - DONE
Pine Sapling - DONE

Nether Wart Seeds
0/54 stacks

Tall Grass
0/54 stacks

Vines
0/54 stacks

Lily Pads
2/54 stacks

Glowstone
17/54 stacks

Glowstone Dust - DONE

Nether Bricks
0/54 stacks

Nether Stairs
0/54 stacks

Nether Fences
0/54 stacks

Netherrack - DONE
Soul Sand - DONE
White Wool - DONE

Light Grey Wool
9/54 stacks

Grey Wool
9/54 stacks

Black Wool
9/54 stacks

Pink Wool
9/54 stacks

Brown Wool
6/54 stacks

Orange Wool
9/54 stacks

Red Wool
9/54 stacks

Yellow Wool
9/54 stacks

Lime Wool
9/54 stacks

Green Wool
9/54 stacks

Cyan Wool
0/54 stacks

Light Blue Wool
0/54 stacks

Blue Wool
0/54 stacks

Purple Wool
0/54 stacks

Magenta Wool
0/54 stacks

Smoothstone - DONE
Planks - DONE

Noteblock
0/54 stacks

Minecart Track
16/54 stacks

Powered Rail
0/54 stacks

Detector Rail
0/54 stacks

Sticky Piston
0/54 stacks

Piston
0/54 stacks

Smoothstone Half-block - DONE
Cobblestone Half-block - DONE
Sandstone Half-block - DONE
Wood Half-block - DONE

Bricks
32/54 stacks

Brick Stairs
0/54 stacks

Brick Half-Block
0/54 stacks

Stone Brick
3/54 stacks

Stone Brick Stairs
0/54 stacks

Cracked Stone Brick
23/54 stacks

Mossy Stone Brick
27/54 stacks

Stone Brick Half-Block
0/54 stacks

TNT - DONE
Bookcase - DONE
Torch - DONE
Wooden Stairs - DONE

Chests
11/54 stacks

Workbench
2/54 stacks

Furnace
1/54 stacks

Ladder - DONE

Cobblestone Stairs
2/54 stacks

Lever
1/54 stacks

Stone Pressure Plate
1/54 stacks

Wooden Pressure Plate - DONE

Redstone Torch
6/54 stacks

Button
1/54 stacks

Snow Block - DONE
Fence - DONE

Fence Gates
0/54 stacks

Iron Bars
3/54 stacks

Trapdoor - DONE
Flint and Steel - DONE
Bow - DONE
Arrows - DONE
Coal - DONE

Diamond
16/54 stacks

Gold Ingot
35/54 stacks

Gold Nuggets
0/54 stacks

Iron Block
16/54 stacks

Iron Ingot - DONE
Stick - DONE
Bowl - DONE
Mushroom Soup - DONE
Red Mushrooms - DONE
Brown Mushrooms - DONE
String - DONE
Feather - DONE
Gunpowder - DONE
Seeds - DONE
Wheat - DONE
Bread - DONE
Flint - DONE

Apples
0/54 stacks

Raw Pork
9/54 stacks

Cooked Pork
18/54 stacks

Raw Beef
1/54 stacks

Cooked Beef
1/54 stacks

Raw Chicken
1/54 stacks

Cooked Chicken
0/54 stacks

Rotten Meat - DONE

Painting
27/54 stacks

Sign - DONE
Wooden Door - DONE
Bucket - DONE

Bucket of Water
7/54 gained

Bucket of Lava - DONE

Glass Bottles
8/54 stacks

Cauldron
0/54 stacks

Brewing Stand
0/54 stacks

Minecart
11/54

Saddle - DONE

Iron Door
23/54

Dispenser - DONE
Redstone Dust - DONE
Snowball - DONE
Boat - DONE
Leather - DONE

Bucket of Milk
0/54

Brick
0/54 stacks

Clay Ball
0/54 stacks

Sugar Cane - DONE
Paper - DONE
Books - DONE
Slimeballs - DONE

Blaze Rod
18/54 stacks

Blaze Powder
0/54 stacks

Magma Cream
0/54 stacks

Spider Eye
2/54 stacks

Fermented Spider Eye
0/54 stacks

Enderpearls
11/54 stacks

Storage Cart
0/54

Powered Cart
0/54

Eggs - DONE
Fishing Rod - DONE

Raw Fish
0/54

Cooked Fish
0/54

Ink Sacks - DONE
Lapis Lazuli - DONE
Bonemeal - DONE
Bones - DONE
Sugar - DONE
Redstone Repeater - DONE

Cookie
1/54 stacks

Cake - DONE
Bed - DONE

Map
1/54 gained

Shears
0/54 gained

Golden Record
33/54 gained

Green Record
31/54 gained
Total: 84/174

I miss being above 50%! But I'm certain I will catch up with it again soon! 3 more chests will do it.

Quote from Poultron

Aaaaaand this is where my Minecraft ethics kick in. In my eyes, doing anything in Minecraft that involves using mods, short-cuts, hacking, whatever to do things where you could do them by hand regardless of the time involved (such as building) is 'cheating'. If the mod is adding to the game where there are short-fallings in the game, then that's fine. But ethically I'd have to build the rectangles by hand. Because there is no reasonable way to relocate the squidwards, using the Spawner Mod would be justified, so long as I uninstalled it afterwards (bcs I bloody well know I'd use it next time I was short of chickens...) I know, it's a weird logic but imo the ends don't justify the means. Thanks though Korea!

But first I think I'm going to try the rectangle approach and see how annoyed I get before caving in to the mods.

Its not that hard, I assure you. Also, its better to dig a trench than to build a rectangle; digging two blocks per step requires nothing but shovels, while building a rectangle takes at least 4 blocks of material every block, and it FAR more unsightly, and more difficult to "clean up" when you are done. Build the trench, forget about water, and just push them. One at a time, if you must. You will have to build a tunnel over the ravine, but other than that, it should be fine. I pushed 7 pigs at ONCE across 300 blocks in only an hour or so. Taking Squidwards one at a time for 500 won't be all that bad at all.

Quote from Poultron

I'm doing the City Construction Challenge. I've created my new village sort of next to an already pre-created Minecraft village, but it's a little too far away to be considered part of it. So I was wondering if there is any way I can drag the villagers to my new creations, the same way I'd wheat-drag a pig to my farm? Or has anyone found a way to attract them?

I've checked the wiki but other than saying that villager AI is eventually going to be improved, there's nothing.

Anyway, here's hoping!

As others have said, its quite possible to manually relocate them. As far as I can tell, they do not have any AI making them like one place over another. Building a dirt tunnel or trench from the old town to the new town, then pushing them through it, is a viable option. It can be frustrating, especially if you have to push them uphill, and with a lot of them.

But I've done the same with cows and pigs in my world, which did not spawn anywhere near my town.

Quote from jagualar

ohhhh Vault Dweller...I am moving to your world
I am going to pack now:)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention another idea I had for you. If you weren't completely committed to bringing all your stuff from your old world, you could always bring ONE full double chest. Fill it with all the most valuable stuff you have; what would you bring in 54 blocks worth of space? Certainly all your diamonds, gold, and possibly iron. What else though? Thats where the fun begins.

A fun game of necessity, convenience, and sheer value. For instance, the value of a single watermelon seed is tremendous, but is it worth a stack of iron blocks? Furthermore, 64 watermelon seeds is worth hardly more than 1. Or would it be better to bring a stack of re-assembled watermelons?

The odds of this happening within a timeframe that is feasible to comprehend is likely impossible. In the famous Monkey/Type writer theory, which indicated that given enough monkeys typing randomly at typewriters, random letters would eventually match any number of recorded texts, the best example being Shakespeare.

A website ran a program to generate these, as a test. Quoting from wikipedia . . .

"For example, it produced this partial line from Henry IV, Part 2, reporting that it took "2,737,850 million billion billion billion monkey-years" to reach 24 matching characters:
RUMOUR. Open your ears; 9r"5j5&?OWTY Z0d..."

So theoretically, yes. Realistically . . . not gonna happen.

Quote from The Vault Dweller

I did, then I decided I'd start a new world, get to a certain point in resources, availability to diamonds, nether and the end. Then upon death of the enderdragon and collection of the egg. I could transport my items from my previous world to my current one.

This is what I did. I gave the game enough credit to "legit" through until the end, beat the Netherdragon, and then, with that accomplished, I imported my stuff and integrated.

Still very much looking forward to using this pack in the future Dr. K! Hope your schedule clears up, and you find the time and motivation to continue the greatest texture pack ever made!

I have 901 diamonds and about 1800 gold ingots. 100% legit, no hacking. Just LOTS of saving since February.

Quote from The Vault Dweller

23 from one block a good number? And Ice is no longer collectable wit silk touch :sad.gif:

That is pretty good . . . sounds like its about or slightly higher than quadrupled. That seems . . . reasonable. I'd have to experiment and GET one of those pickaxes first, but I will see how it goes.

And sucks about the ice. Ah well.

I just not finally got my vault and new storage facility fully in place in my new 1.0 world. I haven't had a fully functional base since they released the first stronghold update, so its nice to feel back in the game. I will miss my old world . . . I won't delete it, but not playing it will be sad.

Also sad, I did double check on my item stocks, as I had to combine the resources of my old world and my new 1.0 world (which I wanted to "beat" first, without using my old items). I realized I had forgotten to relist some of the new stackable foods; fish, cooked fish, and bread. I still had them listed as completed, bringing my total down to 81/173 . . . I want to be back above 50% again! :sad.gif: Progress is going well on a few fronts though, mainly the new stone brick variants and clay (of which I have enough fresh clay to half-finish any brick item, or finish brick ingots and clay balls BOTH). I've established new farms to account for the new growables, but it will be some time until they are really going. Well, its well on its way!

Quote from Ratnix

Didn't they remove the ability to mine Ice with silk touch?

As much as I dread the concept of mining for this, I hope not. Mineable ice is something I have wanted.

Quote from The Vault Dweller

Balance is why. The eyes serve one purpose and that can't help you in a fight or many situations but the Pearls can teleport you out of almost any sticky situation. Glad to hear from you again, I recently started a new world and it looks stunning. Do you think you could do Lapis blocks since now with a fortune IV pickaxe, mining one block drops a considerable amount more.

I did not know that Ender pearls let you teleport. Cool.

I was not aware . . . how much would a fortune IV pickaxe allow you to drop? To be honest, I am not a fan of the enchanting and potion system . . . the randomness of the enchanting is something I dislike, and I do not look forward to being forced to use enchanting to gather items with silk touch or fortune (though it could certainly help). The reason I ask is that my Lapis collection is still quite limited; even increased, it would not be enough to be viable. I have . . . about 8 stacks of lapis blocks. If a fortune IV pickaxe doubles that, then I will have 24 stacks in the same amount of time as it took me to get to 8, and thats still not even half way. If it triples it, maybe it could be something I considered.