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Quote from Ouatcheur

Gee whiz, why the need to make every special item ever costlier and costlier to the point of it not making sense at all?

8 Gold ingots is nearly 1 gold BLOCK, that to make a SINGLE Golden apple to heal a measly 4 hit points (2 hearts) over 5 seconds. In other words, 1 hit point every 1.25 second, and only for a very short duration too.

Meanwhile, natural regeneration from keeping the hunger bar nearly full is almost free, doesn't use up any extra inventory space, and is at a rate of 1 hit point of regeneration every 4 seconds. And it works even when under the effect of food poisoning! Food is so plentiful in the game that choosing not to keep your hunger bar always nearly full nearly all the time you can is tantamount to being stupid. So basically, that golden apple allows you to save a whopping 16 seconds of natural regeneration... Whoopeee! Not! I can see it as making a difference in PVP battles and stuff like that, but it just makes the item nearly worthless otherwise.

I don't quite like where that "let's make things more & more hard to get or costly" attitude is heading. Next thing we know, crafting torches will require 1 coal block over 1 wood block to get only 2 torches, and crafting armor & tools will require iron blocks instead of ingots, etc.

I know Minecraft isn't realistic and that is fine, but at least it should keep a minimum amount of common sense and make sense internally too.

- A gold block is bigger than an ingot which is bigger than a nugget. "Comme Sense"™ Check: passed!

- Tools and armor pieces require ingots, because those things are apparently smaller than a full block. "Comme Sense"™ Check: passed again!

- But Golden Apples require nearly 8/9 of a Gold Block (and 8 full blocks for the enchanted version?) = Doesn't make sense at all!

It's not as if there was a special "magical" way to "extract" or condense" the "quintessential" magic of "gold value" into some sort of powder or item or thingamabob, which would then be used to make those special food and potion ingredients.

Noo, it's just simple *_ordinary_* Crafting. Some loss is ok up to a point (like when making stairs you use up 6 blocks of volume to obtain only 3 blocks worth of output volume), but there is a limit beyond which the mind goes "blank". 4 iron ingots to make a compass is already pushing on that limit. But a compass is not a one-shot consumable, you make 1 and it keeps forever. But 8 ingots to surround a fruit with a thin metal layer? Now, THAT is just crazy.

Even the glistering melon didn't really need changing: compare with probably the most useful potion of all the Swiftness potion, which is a real and direct time saver in all situations requiring moving some distance, and even in many others, and which needs only a measly 1 *_sugar_*! This is probably the easiest potion ingredient to have in huge amounts, because Sugar Cane grows in many places especially around rivers, which are also easy to find, and it is really easy to farm it (doesn't even need replanting!) and it grows quite quickly too. That melon doesn't look fully covered with gold, either. So the previous recipe made more "intuitive common sense".

I'm not talking about "realism" (booh with realism!), just that a game should internally make sense.