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Quote from BIOadam7

Some of us don't have smart phones that may want to use this, but would be unable to because we don't have an app feature.

Don't need a smartphone. An iPod works just fine.

Quote from Spawngiirl

[...] its a beta.

This.

/thread.

Quote from Lynxdragon

Lets start a thread to have Notch abolish known accounts that grief? How about that idea!?

/signed.

Quote from Quxudia

Yes there is, one accepts the world the way it is and the other tries to make it a better place.

I live in a "non-traditional family" - the woman I love is polyamorous, so I share her with another man (a fellow I am happy to be very good friends with, in fact). We're about to move, all three of us, into a single house together. I anticipate living in that house with both of them until either (a) I become so ill I require permanent hospitalisation,, (:cool.gif: the house burns down, or (c) I die.

That family structure would "upset" a damned lot of people, prompting them to make it illegal. In fact, it is (un-necessarily) illegal for BOTH of us guys, to marry the one woman. Even though, for all intents and purposes, we may as well be married anyway.

Those laws don't make the world a better place. They make the world a more Christian place - and the two are not always the same thing.

If that were true then laws wouldn't exist, it's illegal to falsely shout "Fire!" in a theater and for good reason.

"Free speech" does not, and never did, mean "free to say whatever you want wherever you want and however you want". Rather, it means "free to express any opinion you might hold (that is not slanderous/libelous, does not advocate criminal acts, and does not endanger members of the public)".

Thus, you are not forbidden to say or yell "fire" in a theater as a matter of restricting what you can talk about - you are forbidden to say or yell "fire" in a theater in such a way as to endanger the health, safety, and even lives of the public at large - in such a case, the other patrons of the theater in specific.

And within that framework? Yes: speech is either completely free, or not free at all. There is no middle ground. In the words of Yoda: "there is only DO, or DO NOT."




On a different note:

Quote from Benefactor

Do you know why you see swastikas on the walls, why you hear people insulting one another's race, and why you read in the paper about some Jewish man killed by supremacists? Because people hate other people, that's why. Solve that. Make a better world for everyone. End racism at the root. Make people not hate one another. Then you won't see swastikas on the walls or burning crosses. And when you do see them, you'll know for sure that those symbols aren't racist: after all, there is no more racism.

*APPLAUSE* Well said, Sir or Madame. Well said, indeed!

Quote from shrogg

No, they were intended to be how they are currently, otherwise they would of fixed this long ago (really simple fix too)

I highly doubt they were intended to work the old way.

And you should stop trying to pretend to be able to read Notch's mind. You don't seem very good at it, to me.

IMO, it's an obvious bug fix; repeaters SHOULD have worked that way, from the get-go.

Just like the old minecart boosters: don't get your heart set on a glitch, to the point you're upset when the glitch is fixed.

I prefer the 1.7 version, for one simple reason: future updates are very unlikely to "break" them, unlike the mod version.

Quote from gamerdude879

I asked my dad, and you know what he said? He said, "No, I don't like the graphics."

Ask him this:

"Dad, if it's my money, and it's my time ... why does it matter if you think the graphics aren't good enough?"

Quote from Axmann

They could refuse you the game you purchased because of that little "retroactive effect" part in there.

No, that is an incorrect argument. The first bit of what you show, simply isn't legal, and cannot be enforced (see: Contracts of Adhesion, Unconscionability, and for those concerned about Swedishlaw versus whatever other law might apply to them in this sort of matter, READ THIS).

Quote from assassinof1337

It does not say all future versions "of this platform" or however you wish to say it. It only says future versions. In order for it to be legally restricted to only that platform, it would have to say that.

At the time, there was only Minecraft for PC - specifying "for PC" would have been redundant.

Saying that its implied won't hold up in court, this is why Terms and Conditions contracts are so long(the one for iTunes is literally over 60 pages long)

Fiiiine, you want to get down to arguing tiny little nit-picky principles of Law with me? Your loss: Impracticability, as an excuse for specific non-performance:


(1) It was long assumed by the majority of the customer-base that cross-platform translation to Consoles, especially the Xbox, was unlikely if not outright impossible. Reasonably, it follows that a similar opinion was generally held as regards translation to a smartphone.
(2) Providing every Alpha customer with a free copy of the Xbox, Experia, and all possible future platform-translated iterations would impose a significant organisational cost on Mojang (having to establish and maintain an alternate and parallel distribution network) - and further, the very need to do so would reduce the perceived value of the entire Minecraft franchise, reducing the likelihood that there ever would be such platform translations at all.
(3) See #1 - there was no realistic anticipation that MineCraft would be 'ported to the Xbox and to a Smartphone.


So, there you essentially have it - and since I am not an attorney, you can bet your backside that whatever attorney's Mojang hires, will do a much better (and more thorough) job, including and especially having a foot-long list of precedents in their favor to summarise and present to the judge in any court case you were foolish enough to pursue.

[Update] Dec. 24th, 2013:

Crafting Azeroth version 1.0 has been released!

Download Now: CraftingAzeroth-v1.0-release.torrent (6.8 GB)

Crafting Azeroth v1.0 includes over twice the content of the original beta version, including the new continents of Outland, Northrend and the Great Sea, in addition to the original continents of Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms. Additionally, many zones that first appeared in the beta version have been re-generated using newly added blocks and features. To learn more about v1.0, you can view screenshots in the updated image gallery, read the included readme file, or explore the interactive map in your browser.

[Update] Jan. 23rd, 2014:

There is a nice Mac OS X installation guide Link Removed. Thanks Joshua Reeves!

May. 17th, 2014:

Someone asked me to modify CA-Static and CA-Teleport so they would only affect the Crafting Azeroth map, so I made a separate version of both plugins that checks the world name before applying any changes. You can download them here and here.

About this project:

The Crafting Azeroth project is a full-scale reproduction of the World of Warcraft environment for Minecraft. The creation of the map is heavily automated, assisted by custom software that I have developed. The best way to explore the map is inside Minecraft, but you can also view the map in your browser by clicking the link below:

Screenshots of the map can be seen in the following galleries, including all new screenshots of Outland and Northrend. If you are unfamiliar with World of Warcraft, the "Before and After" gallery will show comparison screenshots between World of Warcraft and Minecraft:

Additional information about the map and many older screenshots are available in this this archived post.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):

Q. How does the conversion process work?

A. Custom software converts the continents of World of Warcraft into Minecraft blocks using a process known as voxelization. This software converts everything in the game, including all the buildings and natural details, down to the individual tree stump. Once the parameters for the software have been set, the conversion process takes approximately 48 hours and requires no human intervention.

Prior to the conversion process, I needed to match textures from World of Warcraft to the appropriate material in Minecraft. For example, an object with a wooden texture might be converted into wooden planks, while an object with a mossy texture might be converted into mossy cobblestone. I created a special software tool to help perform this assignment, but selecting materials for all 10,000+ textures in the game still required many hours of work.

Q. How large is the world?

A. The current version of the map spans approximately 500 square kilometers and contains over 100 billion blocks. The highest part of the world, the peak of Mt. Hyjal, stands more than a kilometer above sea level. Since the map exceeds the Minecraft height limit, the world had to be divided into seven altitude layers, each connected via a server-side plugin that Link Removed as they approach the height limit. To be played locally, the map requires 22 gigabytes of available hard-drive space.

Q. Does the world include underground areas, like dungeons and caves?

A. Yes, the map includes all caves and dungeons that are not part of a separate instance. So, areas like Blackrock Mountain are freely accessible, but dungeons like Blackrock Depths or Molten Core are not. The map also includes many randomly generated caves similar to those found in Minecraft.

Q. Do you plan to convert any other zones, such as Pandaria?

A. Yes, work has already started on Pandaria, but it will take a bit more time before the zone is ready to be released. The conversion process can also be used on dungeons and battlegrounds, so they may appear at a later date, but they are not top priority right now.

Q. Where can I download a copy of the map?

A. The full map is available to download right now, just click the BitTorrent link at the top of this post, or download from this mirror. If you don't want to download the map to your computer, you can explore a read-only version of the map by adding wow.cursecraft.com to your in-game server listing.

(new) Q. I downloaded the map, but now I'm stuck in Outland. What do I do?

A. Entering the Dark Portal in Hellfire Peninsula should return you to the Blasted Lands in Azeroth, just as it does in World of Warcraft. If the portal takes you to the Nether instead, you may not be using the correct plugins. Check the readme file for instructions on how to download and install a Bukkit server with the required plugins. The readme also lists some useful /tp commands for teleporting to key locations.

(new) Q. The game runs really slow when I'm near a jungle. How can I fix this?

A. There are two important things you can do. First, set your graphics in Minecraft to "fast", so that leaf blocks are opaque rather than transparent. Second, make sure that you are running the map on a Bukkit server with CA-Static-1.0 plugin correctly installed. Doing both of these things will greatly improve performance in large jungles and forests and should also help preserve the map from damage.

(new) Q. Can your software convert games other than WoW?

A. The same technique could be used on other games, but it would require a tremendous amount of additional work. The converter would need to be adapted to handle different file formats and then specially configured for the new data set. This is a very time-consuming and technically challenging process, so I have no plans to use the software to convert other games.

Q. Who is involved in this project?

A. The conversion software for this project was developed by Rumsey (RamsesA). Hosting support for the Minecraft server is provided by Cursecraft, and in particular Martin Benjamins (Marlamin), who helps manage the server directly. The mapping software used to generate the Google Maps view of the project was developed by the Minecraft Overviewer team.

For a more detailed list of credits, please consult the readme file. Special thanks also goes to Alan J. Lee for offering to redirect the craftingazeroth.com domain to this page.

Q. Who can I contact if I have more questions?

A. In addition to posting here, you can contact me via [email protected] or Twitter, or send a private message through this website. If I do not respond right away, check if it's something covered in the readme or this FAQ.

Forge is like a traffic policeman in the middle of an intersection with no light. As there is no mod API officially released from Mojang, modders can interact with it however they wish. If more than one mod tries to access certain libraries of Minecraft, they could conflict and not work together. Forge gives a central group of user-created APIs into which all mods can tie to prevent them from conflicting with each other.

Honestly, the new way would probably be fine (or at least no worse than the old way) if they would just re-enable the S key to use for slowing down.

As it stands, the only way to slow down is to completely turn around and press W (to push "forward" against the flow of the boat). That's the only part of the new controls that's really monumentally stupid. Everything else I think actually makes them easier to control now. They certainly turn easier.

[EDIT] Please note that this is an old post, from Minecraft beta 1.5_01 and has not been updated much. The data is still good and will give you what you need. A couple little updates have been made and an addition of some pictures but my plan is to some day create a fully updated and restructured version of the below 'historical' document including Jungle saplings. - In the meantime, I hope that you enjoy this old tutorial and appreciate that it was my very first post here a very very long time ago. [/Edit]


Hello, this is my First post here though I've been a lurker since alpha.

I recently saw that a number of people in another thread not completely about this subject were having trouble getting the new types of saplings to grow in their underground tree farms. This is something I can help with a little so I figured I would contribute.

Spacing needed to grow Birches

My experience related here is with the white/silver Birches and not the Pines/Spruces, although there will be useful info about them as well. This all applies to Minecraft beta 1.5_01 which is what I was using when I did all of this.

[EDIT] The parts of this post derived from my personal experience were all done in vanilla (unmodded) SSP (Survival Single Player) Normal Mode. None of my worlds are currently on SMP (Survival Multi-Player) servers, so I can't speak to any bugs in SMP that might affect anything mentioned in my post. * beta 1.6 is supposed to have a biblical number of bug-fixes all around so please post here with any new tree-farming behavior that deviates from the prior-known here. Thanks![/EDIT]

At first I couldn't get the Birches to grow in my tree farm either. I checked the Tree and Tree-farm wikis but still couldn't find an answer that worked in my tree farm. I finally did find the answer I needed in the Sapling wiki:

Normal saplings need a 1x6x1 area, birch saplings need a 5x7x5 area, and pine saplings need a 7x10x7 area.

[EDIT] These days the wiki now lists a 5x5x9 space requirement for Spruce/Pine tree growth. I have tested and verified these new dimensions to be correct at least in mc1.3.2. [/Edit]

The middle number turns out to be the height needed above the dirt for the tree to grow, not the height above the sapling like another part of the wiki states, at least in the case of the numbers shown for the Birches. And the only other number you need regarding space is the first one; you can think of it as the diameter of spaces in all directions around the tree (above the dirt) that need to be empty of anything.

So with a Birch that first number is 5; with the Birch in the center of a line of 5 blocks you would need 2 blocks clear all the way around it and 7 blocks clear of everything except the sapling above the dirt block, and in fact 7 blocks up need to be clear for the entire 5x5 block area that the tree is in the center of, unlike the old normal Oak trees.

That last bit was the final problem I had to overcome since my tree farm already met all of those requirements except that my 1 block ceiling chandeliers were sticking down into that 5x5 grid on the edges which kept the Birches from growing. I tried removing those chandeliers in one spot and leaving them there in another but completely lowering the floor in that 5x5 space. Both worked fine and the Birches finally started growing! My preference though is to lower the floor and keep the chandeliers lit so that my secure underground tree-farm doesn't also turn into a tree-top creeper-farm when I have to use Fast-Graphics mode, heh heh.

Hostile Mobs can spawn on leaves on "Fast" graphics.

Here are some diagrams to help:

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Birch spacing - Side cross-section (Torch is attached to side of the dirt block tree is planted on)


Below is how I made mine: Floor lay-out looking down from above (North is to the right)

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* I always place the torch that's on the dirt block beneath the sapling on the North side of the block. Just a little something to help me keep track of where I am in my huge tree farm, heh heh.

To find north, find an 'L' on the top left corner of the Cobblestone block. The 'L' always points north. It is also present on Netherrack.

** The Tree-farm wiki says that you can get the Birches to grow just two spaces apart from each other. My farm was already set up with 3 spaces between every tree in hopes of maximizing tree growth speed so I left it at that spacing when testing Birch trees too. It should also allow for an easier modification to grow Pine trees.

*** btw: I've done several above ground tests between 3 space farms and 4 space farms with normal trees and saw no difference in overall tree growth speed, so 3 space farms are the more efficient of those two options (I am assuming this also holds true below ground with the height limits shown but haven't actually tested that). I have also not tested 2 space tree-farming vs 3 space.

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* The cobbles represent the chandeliers (torch holders) sticking down from the ceiling by one block. All torches shown are attached to them. I put a torch on the North & South side of each chandelier.

** The top-center of a tree is always beneath the ceiling and not a chandelier.

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So there you are! This pattern and spacing will work for both regular Oak and Birch trees, and with a little modification you can even add Pine trees.

++ However; If you are only growing regular Oak trees and never want branches, you will need to make the ceiling one block lower than shown above, so eight blocks between floor and ceiling instead of nine. You can always lower the floor by one block in sections where you wish to grow Birch, in fact this is what I do.

* If you want to do this for pines too just lower the floor by another 3 blocks/levels for a total of 10 levels above the dirt block and it should be ready to go since we are already spacing the trees 3 apart. [I haven't tested this myself but the numbers given by the wiki indicate it should work.]
- I wouldn't lower the floor that much for anything except the Pine section though, as the normal trees will start getting branches with that much height (slowing down an efficient harvest), and the chances of it getting dark enough for a spawn on the lower leaves of a really short regular tree would go up (though I haven't done the math to know for certain that it could).

Speed of Growth

The Tree growth notes wiki states this about the Birch tree:

it seems like they grow faster than normal trees.

I have tested this several times in my tree farm with several Birches spaced as described by me above and the competition normal trees one level higher but also with an effective 7 spaces above the dirt block. Under those conditions the Birches (as a whole) were never even once close to faster than the normal trees (as a whole), maybe even fractionally slower than the normal ones (overall 5 vs 5). Perhaps if the Birches are given more space a group of them would grow faster than normal trees, but this isn't something I've personally seen.

I would be interested to hear about any results you get if you test this report under different conditions.


Biome

The wiki states this:

Pines/Spruces grow only in snow biomes.

Jebediah has reported growing a Spruce in the desert. This would indicate that even though these trees might only naturally occur in certain biomes, they can be made by us to grow wherever we plant them. Even in the Nether.

--- Well, I hope this helps someone. Happy Minecrafting!



Tree-farm pictures (Uses the layout and sizing described here for Oak trees)

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Here are some pictures msg me if u want the seed.

Hey Nether fans! bored of empty nethers where you cant make a potion Farm?
Well I have a seed for you!
Seed: Nether Fortress
Nether fortress at:
x:7
y:59
z:9
(you can see the fort from here, plus its RIGHT behind your portal)
Build your portal here:
x:84
y:63
z:252
(which is Right beside spawn!)

Havent explored much but i have found 2 nether wart farms, and for blazes, they spawn naturally on the fort, not just spawners!)
Please leave a reply on how good you think the seed is...
Thanks,
-Cheese

Quote from Sir_Veillance

Because the old Minecraft was a completely different concept, without all this weird fantasy stuff and dragons and potions and enchanting... Back in the days when it truly was JUST a sandbox.

Yeah, "weird fantasy stuff". Stuff that does not remove or replace the sandbox content in any way. And is completely optional.

Quote from _purple_monkey_

im going to go with flat because circles are impossoble to make in minecraft!!!!!!

Where is your God now?

*Updated 7/20/11*

New- Added pistons working on the UI.

****Update****
Very very beta download available not all texture are in their final stage. Also working on fixing my "forum" post to not look so sloppy.


What I need from you guys is when you find weird little white lines or "bleeding" on the edge of blocks let me know which tile It was so I can fix it and make it seamless. ( Yes I just fixed the ice)

Direct Download: Download

This pack does require The hd patcher fix

So far this has the terrain file and misc files.
Armor and items and GUI are being worked on and I hope to get them out in the next few days. Feel free to test what I have so far and let me know what needs fixing.

Things to note- Wool is not so much colors but more so glowing items and what I feel are " utility" blocks.
This is a very very dark pack- it was inspired by tron.


Hey I recently started a "real life" tron look based on the movie " Tron legacy". I really liked some of the allready existing tron texture packs but I am not as huge of a fan of the cartoon look. Here is what I have so far, I'm looking for input on ideas or suggestions as I am finding some lack of creativity brain block. ( everything In my pack was made by me and some similar looks were inspired by other texture packs + the movie.)

I would like to add some of the greens are slightly to green but when I made the lines thinner or darker the anti aliasing would come off really bad due to the nature of the "block" patterns the game uses.


Tiles I have finished so far \/ ( NOT ALL OF THESE TEXTURES ARE FINISHED OR GOING IN THE PACK, some were left over from the "texture outline" I'm pasting over.)



Click for Scenery. \/


Click for some of my textures. \/


Click for items \/


Note- Please do NOT re use my textures in public packs they are currently not available for redistribution without my permission.