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- Dranku54
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Aug 2, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on New EULA Now in Effect!Until mojang actually shuts down a server, no ones going to take this seriously. I want it to work too and it is good. Just until they take action, the majority of the servers do not care.Posted in: News -
Aug 1, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on New EULA Now in Effect!Now to see if they actually do anything. So far, none of the servers I'm on have complied. Not only that, they are doing special sales to make more money.Posted in: News
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Jun 25, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
If when you pay 1$ to get on, and everyone Has to pay that 1$ to get on, then yes giving them a spawner as well is ok. If you have a second bracket that gives everyone who pays 10$ something more, then that is not ok. You cannot seperate donor ranks with different for different levels of money given. It must be the same fee to get on across the board with the same thing given to everyone. As long as they code it in, you could get a spawn in multiple ways.Quote from Pazza101
At first I was infuriated that they would do this to servers (I ran completely free servers in the past) however after looking for a minute I can see this as a business opportunity really (well not business but minecraft server starting). Whilst all the existing servers are squabbling in the dust so to speak new servers will pop up using new methods, set up a monthly weekly however often donating accumulation, and say $1 gets players on the server gets a spawner (from my understanding if every player gets the item there is no problem, I may be wrong, but you can't get a spawner legitimately anyway) $10 dollars get the players on the server the first level and a new minigame for the month.
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Jun 25, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
I highly doubt you are what you claim to be. If your husband is really a lawyer then you would fully understand that they are not saying you can't Give your players perks, but that they can't Sell them perks. You say later on that the only thing they can legally do is make sure you do not profit from their servers. DUH! That is what this whole thing is about! What in the world are you calling rubbish when this whole thing is nothing more then them inforcing their EULA?Quote from kezzawozza
This is all absolute rubbish. I am a journalist and my husband is a lawyer, and we say NONSENSE.
Mojang cannot dictate gameplay of their game to any players or servers! It is not their right, any more than it is the right of Hasbro Games to dictate how individuals or Monopoly Clubs play the game of Monopoly! How absurd this is! Yet is has all the young server owners out there fooled and worried.
Mojang has sold a game to you. That is it. How you play that game is completely up to you! If you give perks to players that is YOUR CHOICE and Mojang has no rights over modifications NOT INVENTED BY THEMSELVES, or any other gameplay that is. It is a club that you have formed and your membership fee structure and how you allocate permissions to players is YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
What I would suggest to all server owners out there, that the only thing Mojang might be able to restrict, or anyone legally could restrict, would be personal profit from their game. Therefore, I STRONGLY advise that all server owners set up separate bank accounts for the club they run, the server fees to go into that and remain there to cover server costs. You should not make personal withdrawals from that account and all payments should have a clear trace of transaction. All above board. We all know perfectly well (but Mojang appears to be blind to) the fact that it is rare for a Minecraft server to make a profit. Keep your member donations/fees in one server account and that is fine. You are then not personally profiting from their game, you are simply managing a club and charging fees for its costs, all quite legal and necessary for any servers to be online, besides little home-based ones.
Mojang will, I predict, close up its open sourcing and try to charge for modpacks in future for its Realms. When they do, this will mark the death of Minecraft as the most popular game out there. And some bright young sparks will replace it with another open-source game for the clever young developers to create mods for. Foolish move, Mojang, if you do this.
You are right, how they give players perks is their own business. Provided they are not selling them and making money from them. You clearly show a lack of knowing what they are trying to do. Go play pretend lawyer and journalist somewhere else.
Second, they cannot charge for mod packs. They are player created. However, the creators cannot charge either since they are still using mojangs product. What I suggest, is no one listen to you and just simply comply with Mojang. All they are doing is trying to inforce their rules now. The only thing you stated that would help is keeping track of the money coming in and going to server maintence. Other then that, just comply and stop selling the items mojang has said you can't sell. If you can't keep your server up for what ever reason, then its A) Not good without highly op perks B ) Just doesn't have enough people willing / able to donate.
Well, doubt you can report anyone yet since they gave them a grace period of until August 1st to comply.Quote from BLUELightning27
Could I report a server that I believe is breaking the rules, and how would I report it.
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Jun 24, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
Most other online games are actual games and not servers of a game like . I would not pay a monthly fee for minecraft Ever. Especially considering there will be servers without that fee. A server is Not a MMO worthy of a 15$ monthly fee. Not to mention most actual MMOs coming out with a subscription cannot even keep up subscriptions enough and just end up going free to play. Even if they try it on a minecraft server doubt itll fly. Yet again, kids will probably be little brats and get their parents money without their consent.Quote from Decnav
I hope all server go to a monthly fee. $15 a month like most other online games seem right. Come on pay to play servers!!!!! N
Pay to play will be the only viable way to host a modded minecraft server like feed the beast or technic.
Most kids will have to beg their parents for an account. The whineing in the fourms will start soon after the eula enforcement begins
Cant wait!!!!!
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Jun 24, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
Not my server. A good way to stay safe is to comply to the EULA too. I'll see how the server reacts once August rolls around. I have a few servers I play on that are neglecting to comply since they think they are above the law. Since that is what this is all about. That and people complaining to mojang about their kids buying stuff.Quote from Durphead
The only way your server can stay safe is if you don't tell Mojang what you're doing.
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Jun 24, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
Well, now I won't have to play on any :D. Despite being pay to win some servers are run really well. They enforce it now probably because of the ones who took it to the extreme with what they charge as well as the kids being little brats and stealing their parents cards causing massive amounts of letters to mojang demanding the charges to be reveresed.Quote from brunyman
If you don't like pay to win servers don't play on them lol, Minecraft success was about the Freedom you have ( in game ) and editing the game and thanks to donations that affected the game play we have a great number of servers some of them really good so you can play on for free, but as any game there will be a point that minecraft will start to go down, and adding restrictions is the first step (if these eula changes were so vital, why are they enforced after years of freedom)
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Jun 24, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
Shut up about what? I strongly dislike servers that have such a huge pay to win thing. I will be grateful when the EULA kicks in and we see to what extent Mojang can do something.Quote from Durphead
Nobody in their right mind is going to pay $10,000 for perks on a Minecraft server, so obviously, we have a lot of people who aren't in their right minds.
You should probably shut up about that so they don't find out.
Like I said, most servers are just laughing at the new EULA believing that Mojang has no power and are unable to do anything to stop their pay to win models. -
Jun 24, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangWhat power does Mojang actually have over private servers? I was on a private server where you had to purchase a donator rank in order to even get spawners while just members couldn't. I asked if anyone knew how I would get a spawner come August and the mods of the server laughed at me saying mojang can't do anything at all and that this EULA means nothing. They said that they cannot touch private servers so they are safe.Posted in: News
In short, most servers are laughing at Mojang beleiving that they are not effected because Mojang cannot touch them. Does mojang even have any actual power of them or are they just doing a show of force that amounts to just barking loudly. -
Jun 20, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
I would doubt those who cannot afford to spend a ton of money would enjoy it as much. Money = power is never a good way to go about stuff. Makes those who cannot spend money feel lesser.Quote from Ecu
Honestly, GoldK, what does it matter to you? You don't want to play on a server where money can equal power, we get that. Why should noone be allowed to? If that happens to be an environment a chunk of the community prefers, who are you to say it is wrong? Them playing that way doesn't hurt you at all.
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Jun 20, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangPosted in: News
Except its the other way around. They pay for the charity and get points to spend on items as a bonus for just spending money on the charity. There is no way to get the points spent on in game items unless you donate money to the charity.Quote from GoldK
Remove the game items for donating and it should be good. The EULA clearly states that money should not equate to exclusive items to the donors no matter what that money is for. I think it would be better for the players to pay for the actual charity instead of the items and the charity is just the bonus.
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Jun 20, 2014
Dranku54 posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From MojangI have a qustion that I do not feel was covered in the EULA. There is a server that consideres itself a charity server. What you do is you donate money to the charity, and you receive points on your account for that server. You can then take those points and purchase in game items. So the money itself is not going to the server, but going to a charity. At the same time you are still getting in game items as a reward. The owner says its just extra thing for donating. The charity is a real world charity and is not a part of minecraft except via this server getting donations for it and then rewarding those who donate to that charity.Posted in: News
Will this be permitted to go on? Will this still be allowed? Does anyone know how this will work since the money is going to a charity, but the players who donate to said charity receive points to use on the servers website for items. - To post a comment, please login.
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Keep living in a fantasy land. The EULA is the Law. Not up for mojang to change. Mojang Does own minecraft, even if the community who plays it thinks they do for some reason. Can't wait till they crush the p2w out of this community.
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Seems None of the servers im on complied at all. I know its day one of the grace period being over. I mean, they had well over a month to change their shops and literally none of the four or five servers I play on changed anything. I just checked one that gave more houses for being a vip, yeah, thats still there.
I mean, it really is no wander none of them changed. They were given over a month to comply and ignored it without any negative repercussions.
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Another still gives you points to spend on in game stuff if you donate to the charity they support.
So much for this eliminating pay to win =/
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They don't give ranks. They have everything hooked up. You go to the charity's site, pay, and you then get points for the servers website that you then use for in game items and perks. So, I shall restate my question. Is this allowed:
People give money, but it doesn't go to the server. It goes to a charity instead of the server. When they donate money to the charity, they get points that they use on the servers website to get in game rewards such as spawners and items. Is this allowed?
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They are convinced this is allowed since they are not the ones getting the money, but merely the ones who reward players for donating to the charity with in game items and perks. I just do not want them getting shut down because they failed to understand the EULA fully. So can they do this?
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Come August 1st, how will we, as the players, be able to help inform Mojang of any servers that will not play nice and comply with the enforcement of the new rules? I know a few servers who do not see Mojang as a threat, nor do they plan to comply with the new rules. They sell items on their shops and even have areas that are exclusive to paying members only.
I may be viewed as being "that guy" for asking this, but I truly wish to help end pay to win. I do not enjoy being beat down or restricted by someone who chooses to pay for items on a minecraft server. I do not like being treated as a second class player who's opinions and voice does not matter because I choose not to shell out cash for a game I already bought to play. I do not want to be forced into buying items that I could other wise craft, just so I can be competitive because they may have removed the ability to crate the items.
So please, tell us how we can help you in this battle to eliminate the pay to win servers and bring equal rights and a equal playing field to everyone, regardless of their choices concerning their willingness to pay.
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You are right, how they give players perks is their own business. Provided they are not selling them and making money from them. You clearly show a lack of knowing what they are trying to do. Go play pretend lawyer and journalist somewhere else.
Second, they cannot charge for mod packs. They are player created. However, the creators cannot charge either since they are still using mojangs product. What I suggest, is no one listen to you and just simply comply with Mojang. All they are doing is trying to inforce their rules now. The only thing you stated that would help is keeping track of the money coming in and going to server maintence. Other then that, just comply and stop selling the items mojang has said you can't sell. If you can't keep your server up for what ever reason, then its A) Not good without highly op perks B ) Just doesn't have enough people willing / able to donate.
Well, doubt you can report anyone yet since they gave them a grace period of until August 1st to comply.
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Like I said, most servers are just laughing at the new EULA believing that Mojang has no power and are unable to do anything to stop their pay to win models.
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In short, most servers are laughing at Mojang beleiving that they are not effected because Mojang cannot touch them. Does mojang even have any actual power of them or are they just doing a show of force that amounts to just barking loudly.
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