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    posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From Mojang
    Quote from Neospectorยป

    Although I agree somewhat, there are things that can be sold that are not creating any kind of winning environment, that don't create any kind of advantage. Capes, Paintings, renaming equipment..capes have been defined as illegal outright by Mojang (for no apparent reason other than making them "special"), and people on this thread have made claims that paintings and renaming and such aren't allowed because they're a part of the game, despite being completely aesthetic.

    I completely agree, With everything you have said. I think they SHOULD have a EULA I but they are going completely wrong about this, All we can do right now is complain, Until they are done getting this "We didn't care about Bukkit,But now we do because EvilSeph is trying to stop Bukkit and we will lose our source of income, so were gonna update Bukkit so we can keep our income and players coming!" Let's just hope they get their act together and actually fix it, as some people don't have money (I'm talking about poor people) who can just afford the game but can't pay for a monthly fee to just play on a server. Thus, bringing less players, and leaving only people who can pay-to-play. If I wanted to play a MMO, I would have now. "Cosmetic" only. As you said, and it is completely cosmetic. So why shouldn't people be able to sell it? Mojang needs to fix it, and now it's gonna just hurt server's with Donator area's, and will MAJORLY hurt creative servers, and Mini-game servers, Funny thing is, I have been on loads of servers and 90% of the one's I have been on (Small - Major[Like Ubercraft]) don't comply with the EULA, probably because they know it's screwed up or their too money hungry OR taking their chances OR know if they follow the guidelines servers will shut down, because all their donations go purely towards server funds. I will personally not be willing to just purchase the /hat command for $5-$10. I personally think pay-to-win servers provide better balance. I am not looking foward to Noob's who just bought MineCraft that know nothing about MineCraft and run around with a 150$ Bedrock PvP kit and kill me, While I take actual skill to PvP
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    posted a message on No one can see my skin! Plz Help!
    I had that problem too, I also can't see people's skins but could see my own in 1.7.10, I downgraded to 1.7.9 but people could see my skin, But couldn't see my own. I downgraded to 1.7.4 which fixed my problems where I could see my own skin and other people's. It's a version issue which I am pretty sure of. Should be fixed in 1.8 since they are in the transition of adding in the 2nd layer for 1.8 and while 1.7.9-1.7.10 fix the bugs/more support for it.Also, What programs can't detect your skin?
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    posted a message on Windows 9
    I can see that happening.... LOL

    What do you want and/or expect from this version? For me, I think Windows 9 is what Windows 8 should've been. What do you think?

    It turned from that^ to "Whats better Windows 8 or 7?"(As that's the question title it feels like now) .-.

    .....
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    posted a message on Windows 9
    Quote from BC_Programming


    Yes I understand, But I would rather see the action instead of looking at a Start Menu with tiles.

    I recognize your point here now, however, I don't think it's a great criticism of the Start Screen. I liken it to being annoyed that you cannot see through a drop-down menu. It just seems disingenous, and sort of attempts to discard the usability advantages in favour of some perceived loss elsewhere.

    For the second part, I type very decent and at fast amount of speeds.

    uh... ok, I never said otherwise.
    But have you ever thought "Everyone makes mistakes now and then!" It happens, a finger can slip and accidently press it especially when you go to press control for sprint, Which happens now and every now and then, but it usually doesn't happen. "Not pressing the windows key or taking steps to prevent yourself from pressing it seems like a better starting point." is more for basic beginners at typing/keyboarding.

    I of course have almost certainly pressed the Windows Key by accident.

    My point is mostly that if you are doing so frequently enough that you would prefer parts of the Shell to have a different design so such mistakes are easier to deal with, than it might require looking into why you would be doing that so often.

    On Windows 7 when you press the windows key it shows the start menu. When you press it again, the start menu closes.
    On windows 8/8.1 when you press the windows key it shows the start screen. When you press it again, the Start screen closes.

    it acts the same. The radical here is this magic non-existent "Windows key" that closes applications- which doesn't exist.

    I clearly know for Windows 7 and below. But for me I have opened a few apps, and it will switch between the Most Recent App and Start Screen.

    Ahh, I believe I now see what you are referring to. I have literally never run a "Modern UI" app, but I fired off the Windows Store. I wasn't able to repro it at first. What I did was start Windows Store, wait until it loaded, and then press Windows Key+D to minimize everything (which took me back to the desktop) if I press the windows key at that point, it takes me to the start screen; if I press it again, I am taken back to the desktop. Windows Store is a icon on the taskbar. Based on the lack of the checkbox as you've mentioned, you are using Windows 8.0 and not 8.1 which introduces the option to boot into the desktop as well as the ability to see Store applications on the Taskbar, so it might work differently.

    However if I used the Windows Key to "close" Windows Store (I presume, in fact, that this is what you were referring to) Pressing it again takes me to the start menu, and pressing it after that will take me back to Windows store. Also of interest: when I unchecked the "when I click the upper-left corner, take me to my recent apps" it seemed to "revert" the functionality a bit. After toggling this option, if I pressed the windows key from a desktop application it would always close if I pressed it again, even though it shows Windows Store (the App I used to test this) as running.
    Not if I have a recent app it keeps toggling between them no matter what I do until I get to the Start Screen and press Desktop to break this process which is annoying.

    As a stopgap if you don't want to upgrade to win 8.1 and try the navigation options, you can also press Windows Key+D instead of having to click the desktop tile/icon.

    I have gone to my options and I only have the Taskbar properties. Probably because I don't choose to update at this time.

    You are running Windows 8, rather than 8.1. 8.1 addresses some of your concerns, I think.




    I didn't. The "All Programs" menu is the single worse ever designed user interface for launching applications. It's only better than it's predecessors (Program Manager and DOS Prompt). The other stuff- fair enough.

    Your opinion. In my opinion, I liked the "All Programs" menu was the best designed interface for launching applications, But I mainly looked there to see my programs and now and then if I didn't have a shortcut, use it to get to my programs.

    Actually, there is a lot of objective fact and research backing the inferiority of the old All Programs Menu in a modern environment, especially compared to using Search.

    When I have to use XP or earlier Windows Releases, I feel like I've lost an arm. I frequently try to type in the Start Menu to launch a program, then I have to drill down into the Program Menu. This is where things get really hairy.

    If I was using a traditional Start Menu/All Programs list, that list would have 116 Items, mostly folders.

    As an example, let's take something I start fairly frequently- The Visual Studio 2013 Command Prompt. Normally, I just press the windows key and type cmd- one of the items, in addition to the expected "Command Prompt" is the Visual Studio 2013 Developer Prompt.

    Fair enough- nice and easy. Works the same on Vista/7 and 8/8.1, too.

    Now imagine I wanted to use the All Programs Menu.

    I would have to navigate through Start->All Programs->
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Visual Studio 2013\Visual Studio Tools->Developer Command Prompt for VS2013

    Kind of a pain in the butt.

    A former problem was that you didn't know where things were; the "standard" convention was that a company would add a special subfolder for all their stuff; so if you wanted to play "FunPuzzle 2004" or whatever you would need to know it was made by "Hobbit Software" or whatever. That's rather annoying. What appears to have happened to prevent this is now they all get their own folders in the Start Menu itself; for example I have RegExBuddy, EditPad Pro, and PowerGrep installed, and all three are from JGSoft; now I don't need to know that to find them in the Start Menu (if I had one) but at the same time that's three items in the start menu where there was one. As Hard Drives got larger and people installed more and more to their drives, so too did the All Programs menu become more and more useless. Vista atrophied it such that it was almost unusable, encouraging the much better Search, which simply searches the start menu and a few other locations.

    This makes perfect sense and is a completely logical approach and I'd say fairly objectively has a better user experience. The reason is that the computer is now doing what you used to do. When you wanted to run a program, you would scan through all the folders in the start menu. Even if you had it memorized in terms of where it was, it would move it you installed new applications most of the time. the only way to combat it was to either pin the item to your start menu or create a desktop shortcut. Which IMO are usability monkeypatches to the problem of basically requiring the user to do things that should be automated (Searching, in this case).


    I recognize your point here now, however, I don't think it's a great criticism of the Start Screen. I liken it to being annoyed that you cannot see through a drop-down menu. It just seems disingenous, and sort of attempts to discard the usability advantages in favour of some perceived loss elsewhere.

    That's understandable and I can see your side of it as annoying.

    I of course have almost certainly pressed the Windows Key by accident.

    My point is mostly that if you are doing so frequently enough that you would prefer parts of the Shell to have a different design so such mistakes are easier to deal with, than it might require looking into why you would be doing that so often.

    Yea, that is also understandable, BUT I usually don't do it but it can happen by accident, I think they should maybe make the box bigger for the Desktop that I can actually see the screen action a little bit, than I wouldn't complain about it.

    For the informational things, Thank you as I have really not poked around the system, yet and have not updated to Update 8.1 due to hearing a few rumors from people saying that they scan your apps to "Get you prepared for Updating" so that you can get updates for it on a new Version of windows(Patches for windows or a minor changes) which I don't think is right and they should not have the right to scan my apps as I really care about my privacy more I have not chose to update(If there is something to prevent it from scanning, I stand corrected on this).I'll start using Win+D key's, I just tested it and verifies it works, Thank you!

    Actually, there is a lot of objective fact and research backing the inferiority of the old All Programs Menu in a modern environment, especially compared to using Search.

    When I have to use XP or earlier Windows Releases, I feel like I've lost an arm. I frequently try to type in the Start Menu to launch a program, then I have to drill down into the Program Menu. This is where things get really hairy.

    If I was using a traditional Start Menu/All Programs list, that list would have 116 Items, mostly folders.

    As an example, let's take something I start fairly frequently- The Visual Studio 2013 Command Prompt. Normally, I just press the windows key and type cmd- one of the items, in addition to the expected "Command Prompt" is the Visual Studio 2013 Developer Prompt.

    Fair enough- nice and easy. Works the same on Vista/7 and 8/8.1, too.

    Now imagine I wanted to use the All Programs Menu.

    I would have to navigate through Start->All Programs->
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Visual Studio 2013\Visual Studio Tools->Developer Command Prompt for VS2013

    Kind of a pain in the butt.

    A former problem was that you didn't know where things were; the "standard" convention was that a company would add a special subfolder for all their stuff; so if you wanted to play "FunPuzzle 2004" or whatever you would need to know it was made by "Hobbit Software" or whatever. That's rather annoying. What appears to have happened to prevent this is now they all get their own folders in the Start Menu itself; for example I have RegExBuddy, EditPad Pro, and PowerGrep installed, and all three are from JGSoft; now I don't need to know that to find them in the Start Menu (if I had one) but at the same time that's three items in the start menu where there was one. As Hard Drives got larger and people installed more and more to their drives, so too did the All Programs menu become more and more useless. Vista atrophied it such that it was almost unusable, encouraging the much better Search, which simply searches the start menu and a few other locations.

    This makes perfect sense and is a completely logical approach and I'd say fairly objectively has a better user experience. The reason is that the computer is now doing what you used to do. When you wanted to run a program, you would scan through all the folders in the start menu. Even if you had it memorized in terms of where it was, it would move it you installed new applications most of the time. the only way to combat it was to either pin the item to your start menu or create a desktop shortcut. Which IMO are usability monkeypatches to the problem of basically requiring the user to do things that should be automated (Searching, in this case).

    Your explanation is fair enough and understandable, even though, I always liked the look and feel of it. But that a reasonable approach to it.
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    posted a message on Windows 9
    Quote from BC_Programming


    Quote from TheChromiumSlime


    I swore it was coming out with Windows 9.. I recently got a Windows 8 laptop as a gift from my father. I hated their tile menu so much within the first hour I downloaded Start Menu 8 so I could get at least windows 7 feel again .-. Either way as long as they bring back the start button soon, I'll be very happy. I wish the tiles would burn in a fire. LOL!

    Why does everybody keep insisting that windows 8 is the worst thing ever just because it has redesigned start menu? It is super easy to ignore.

    Not for me. When I start up my laptop and sign in, I like to go straight to my desktop to get to what I want, Not have to be brought to a start menu THEN press the Desktop tile.

    If only there was an option that could be changed. Oh, right. there is:

    "When I sign in or close all apps on the screen, Go to the desktop instead of Start"

    I also don't like that if I accidently press the Windows Button on my keyboard in the middle of a game where I'm in a PVP fight or In the middle of a biome with a bunch of mobs, where I can't see my screen AT ALL where if you pressed it in Windows 7 or Before, You could see whats going on around you. I'm trying to say that I'm in the middle of a biome and there is a creeper nearby I can see if its coming.

    Learn to keyboard, probably. Either way the result is the same- you'd be screwed regardless of the OS. Being able to "see what is happening" doesn't do you any good because you are just watching your ass get handed to you since you cannot interact with the game anymore.

    Not pressing the windows key or taking steps to prevent yourself from pressing it seems like a better starting point. It's altogether idiotic to design a Start Screen/Menu specifically to assume that the windows key will be pressed by accident.

    Not just that, If I have a recent app that I opened and I press the windows button to close it

    There is no Windows Key shortcut that closes applications.

    It brings me to the start screen, I press it again to see if it closes and takes me to my recent app.

    When you press the Windows key it displays the Startscreen. When you press it again it closes the Start screen. This is exactly the same as the Start Menu behaved- the Windows key toggles the Startscreen.

    I do not like that at all, where with previous version of Windows you could easily press it, and its goes back down.

    on Windows 7 when you press the windows key it shows the start menu. When you press it again, the start menu closes.
    On windows 8/8.1 when you press the windows key it shows the start screen. When you press it again, the Start screen closes.

    it acts the same. The radical here is this magic non-existent "Windows key" that closes applications- which doesn't exist.

    I also liked to see all my programs with the programs button above the search bar. Another thing is I liked having my Control Panel, Documents, Username, etc. when I pressed the Start Button.

    I didn't. The "All Programs" menu is the single worse ever designed user interface for launching applications. It's only better than it's predecessors (Program Manager and DOS Prompt). The other stuff- fair enough. Though starting with Vista I started to just search for everything (including items like Control Panel).


    Learn to keyboard, probably. Either way the result is the same- you'd be screwed regardless of the OS. Being able to "see what is happening" doesn't do you any good because you are just watching your ass get handed to you since you cannot interact with the game anymore.

    Not pressing the windows key or taking steps to prevent yourself from pressing it seems like a better starting point.

    Yes I understand, But I would rather see the action instead of looking at a Start Menu with tiles. For the second part, I type very decent and at fast amount of speeds. But have you ever thought "Everyone makes mistakes now and then!" It happens, a finger can slip and accidently press it especially when you go to press control for sprint, Which happens now and every now and then, but it usually doesn't happen. "Not pressing the windows key or taking steps to prevent yourself from pressing it seems like a better starting point." is more for basic beginners at typing/keyboarding.

    That's altogether idiotic to design a Start Screen/Menu specifically to assume that the windows key will be pressed by accident.

    Yes that is idiotic to design a Start Screen/Menu specifically to assume that the windows key will be pressed by accident. But like I just said, I would rather see the action happen than be looking at a Start Menu with tiles.

    On Windows 7 when you press the windows key it shows the start menu. When you press it again, the start menu closes.
    On windows 8/8.1 when you press the windows key it shows the start screen. When you press it again, the Start screen closes.

    it acts the same. The radical here is this magic non-existent "Windows key" that closes applications- which doesn't exist.

    I clearly know for Windows 7 and below. But for me I have opened a few apps, and it will switch between the Most Recent App and Start Screen.
    The radical here is this magic non-existent "Windows key" that closes applications- which doesn't exist.

    The radical here is this magic non-existent "Windows key" that closes applications- which doesn't exist.

    I have talked about the Windows Key, as I was talking about it as I quote below from me. Which I clearly know is there, But doesn't close but switches between recent app and Start Screen when I press it, Otherwise it does close, But is really annoying to look at for me

    If I have a recent app that I opened and I press the windows button to close it, It brings me to the start screen, I press it again to see if it closes and takes me to my recent app



    There is no Windows Key shortcut that closes applications.

    That's not what I'm trying to say, I don't want it to switch between recent app's and start menu.

    When you press the Windows key it displays the Startscreen. When you press it again it closes the Start screen. This is exactly the same as the Start Menu behaved- the Windows key toggles the Startscreen.

    Again, Not if I have a recent app it keeps toggling between them no matter what I do until I get to the Start Screen and press Desktop to break this process which is annoying.

    If only there was an option that could be changed. Oh, right. there is:

    "When I sign in or close all apps on the screen, Go to the desktop instead of Start"

    I have gone to my options and I only have the Taskbar properties. Probably because I don't choose to update at this time.





    I didn't. The "All Programs" menu is the single worse ever designed user interface for launching applications. It's only better than it's predecessors (Program Manager and DOS Prompt). The other stuff- fair enough.

    Your opinion. In my opinion, I liked the "All Programs" menu was the best designed interface for launching applications, But I mainly looked there to see my programs and now and then if I didn't have a shortcut, use it to get to my programs.
    Though starting with Vista I started to just search for everything (including items like Control Panel).

    I absolutely agree with you on that. Otherwise, that's is, as I don't need to argue with your opinion, since it's your opinion.

    No hard feelings, just stating my side, as your stating on your side. Have a nice day!
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    posted a message on Windows 9
    Quote from TheChromiumSlime


    I swore it was coming out with Windows 9.. I recently got a Windows 8 laptop as a gift from my father. I hated their tile menu so much within the first hour I downloaded Start Menu 8 so I could get at least windows 7 feel again .-. Either way as long as they bring back the start button soon, I'll be very happy. I wish the tiles would burn in a fire. LOL!

    Why does everybody keep insisting that windows 8 is the worst thing ever just because it has redesigned start menu? It is super easy to ignore.

    Not for me. When I start up my laptop and sign in, I like to go straight to my desktop to get to what I want, Not have to be brought to a start menu THEN press the Desktop tile. I also don't like that if I accidently press the Windows Button on my keyboard in the middle of a game where I'm in a PVP fight or In the middle of a biome with a bunch of mobs, where I can't see my screen AT ALL where if you pressed it in Windows 7 or Before, You could see whats going on around you. I'm trying to say that I'm in the middle of a biome and there is a creeper nearby I can see if its coming. Not just that, If I have a recent app that I opened and I press the windows button to close it, It brings me to the start screen, I press it again to see if it closes and takes me to my recent app. I do not like that at all, where with previous version of Windows you could easily press it, and its goes back down. I also liked to see all my programs with the programs button above the search bar. Another thing is I liked having my Control Panel, Documents, Username, etc. when I pressed the Start Button.

    But in the end, that's my opinion. Atleast, it's not easy for me to ignore.
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    posted a message on Windows 9
    I swore it was coming out with Windows 9.. I recently got a Windows 8 laptop as a gift from my father. I hated their tile menu so much within the first hour I downloaded Start Menu 8 so I could get at least windows 7 feel again .-. Either way as long as they bring back the start button soon, I'll be very happy. I wish the tiles would burn in a fire. LOL!
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    posted a message on [Feedback] Glad to see this come, But could definitely use some improvements
    Sorry about the text, I fixed the color.

    Yea I understand about the Comic Sans, I was just thinking of a common used Font known. I was really tired, and annoyed by my post reseting 3 times because of the lag, plus I was tired so I just thought of something quick. Either way, I just meant a different text, then the same bland text. I understand why you think its childish and can't be taken seriously. Just a unique text or as you said some better kerning, will be fine with me. I just think it needs to be edited though.

    Thanks again for taking your time to reply, xXDannTheWarriorXx
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    posted a message on [Feedback] Glad to see this come, But could definitely use some improvements
    Pros:

    - Background feels more alive.

    - Twitter, Facebook, YouTube buttons look amazing.

    - Like the green dot to see if online or not.

    - Definitely a performance boost.

    Cons:

    - Remove the footer ad. Its lags me like crazy when it comes up.

    - Feels really dull, especially the dirt block buttons, Make them a little more bright and the pixels more visible

    - The navigation bar (News, Forum, Servers, Wiki, etc.) is very bland. I like the green, but maybe make a emerald block pattern to add the creativity back from the old forum, and maybe a different font to make it unique.

    - Posts look horrible (The page with the post of the person) I will really miss the old one, this is the worst of the cons for me.

    Overall:


    - 6/10

    - Really needs some improvements, but really good.

    Thanks for Reading!, xXDannTheWarriorXx
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    posted a message on Minecraft Forum Beta Ending Soon - Help Us Test It!
    I like it alot, needs some improvements though. Keep up the good work ! :Diamond: :steve_wink:
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    posted a message on [Forge 1.7.2] [FIXED] Eclipse not re-recognizing my mods source?
    Quote from SynthTones

    First of all, you run gradlew.bat with the parameter 'build'. Second, putting the .jar where 'you found it' does nothing, wherever you found it is just an export folder. As for the actual problem, no ideas, sorry! :o

    Thanks for trying to help, yea I see that I was supposed to put build in the command window with gradlew but I was too late after I watched another video. Im going to wipe out forge and then make a new java project in eclipse and inject my source into that folder. I hope it works..

    A fresh new install with the import of my source from my folder worked... Thanks for reminding me of the build command too!

    - Thank you for all the help!, xXDannTheWarriorXx
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    posted a message on [Forge 1.7.2] [FIXED] Eclipse not re-recognizing my mods source?
    Quote from SynthTones

    First of all, you run gradlew.bat with the parameter 'build'. Second, putting the .jar where 'you found it' does nothing, wherever you found it is just an export folder. As for the actual problem, no ideas, sorry! :o

    Thanks for trying to help, yea I see that I was supposed to put build in the command window with gradlew but I was too late after I watched another video. Im going to wipe out forge and then make a new java project in eclipse and inject my source into that folder. I hope it works..

    - Again thanks for the help, xXDannTheWarriorXx
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    posted a message on [Forge 1.7.2] [FIXED] Eclipse not re-recognizing my mods source?
    EDIT: This HAS been fixed, I had to re-setup my mod folder with a fresh start(I backed up my old source) then I created a new source folder when I started up eclipse and I then dragged my folders from my old source to the new source
    file, and it was fixed.

    Hello, I have been in the process of making a mod for my friend, and he wanted to have a test version of the mod. So I finished up a few errors in Eclipse. I went up and went to File -> Export -> Java -> Jar File, I then added a mods folder and saved it there. I went into my mods folder (C:\Users\XXXXX\Desktop\XXXXX's Minecraft Bacon Mod - MC 1.7.2\eclipse\mods) and dragged out the .jar I saved it as BaconUtilitiesMod.jar and made it into a zip and uploaded it.. But I missed a error, while I was fixing it, and it didn't work when I tested it. I was too tired and was going to fix it in the morning. I closed Eclipse, and went to bed. I woke up started up Eclipse and loaded my workbench, but my source is missing. I put back my .jar where I found it, but it doesn't want to recognize my source. I even looked in the source folder(C:\Users\XXXXX\Desktop\XXXXX's Minecraft Bacon Mod - MC 1.7.2\src) And im able to see my file there but it doesn't recognize it in Eclipse. I am very confused and I've searched almost all day now and haven't found a solution, such as "How to decompile your mod - Minecraft Forge 1.7.2" And gives me nothing that I need. How are modders able to push updates without losing their eclipse workspace, and is there anyway I can get Eclipse to re-recognize my source?

    -Thanks, xXDannTheWarriorXx
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