And dont worry bout lag, we have 32RAM but we only need like 4....so were going to have a VERY smooth game...trust me...i talk to panda about it and hes very exsited about how smooth he thinks its gonna run its something hes told me a few times.
This is not accurate. Due to the fact that the game is unoptimized yet, especially the server client, you will definitely experience lag with 100 people in the game.
Did you read your mistake there? Page 14... That page is far gone, The leader obviously missed my post and it was ignored by other posts. I simply replied the same thing to see if it gets the Leaders attention. In no means was this begging. You are utterly stupid or ignorant, please learn a little more before you post. Thank You.
-Jay
Please refer to my post above, as well as Panda's initial post. We aren't currently accepting applications for anything. When the time comes, we'll be sure to go back through the post and pull out the names we feel are going to be useful to us. Re-posting is not required, and definitely going to be frowned upon. You aren't the only one we haven't responded to.
I'll say it again, posting dumb **** like "stfu dumbass lol" is a quick way to let us know you're not the kind of person we want on this server. Everyone chill.
Second, I'm not letting any punkass preteens in here.
Okay, I took a lot of offense to that... That is age discrimination at its finest, and quite frankly, I find all discrimination pointless and stupid. I just happen to be 12, and not a single person could tell. So don't go assuming that all preteens are "punkasses," because that's a pretty heavy assumption, and assuming basically always gives you a one-way ticket to looking like an idiot.
You're generalizing when you shouldn't.
Please, let's stop jumping down everyones necks. We're trying to breed mature discussion here, not childish bickering. It's an easy way to make sure you never play on the server.
From reading this, I'm not sure everyone understands what a mod is. Mod stands for modifications to the game. They are supplementary programs that give additional functionality.
We're really only looking to use 3-4 mods right now, because of the fact that they need to be recoded to some extent each time Notch updates the server. This will change in time, when Notch adds the API system he's been promising.
Also. The server going up will be a huge deal for us. You will not be able to miss it.
The leadership system will definitely be grief proof, and I doubt panda is going to go for a system that is so fluid. The point of government is slow changing. Even revolting takes a while in the real world. Simply signing on one day with a bunch of buddies will not be enough to vote someone out.
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I dont know, personally id rather not live in a dictatorship where position is decided by how well you know / toady upto the current people in charge :tongue.gif:
Such is the life of the average peasant. Better bring the :--+:s .
Finally, I don't think its too early to discuss something like government. Panda is planning on setting a few leaders up initially for some structure. Those people are going to have to immediately be ready for the challenges leadership presents them, and know what direction they should be headed in. Better discuss it now than have people scrambling later. :biggrin.gif:
Also, it's not like we're discuss specific detail. It's more like we're discussing the general system, like how leaders are removed from power, what would happen then, etc. Keep those ideas comming!
i think monsters should be turned off.i lost ALL my crap because of a creeper.
While sad as this may be to you, this is going to be RP as possible (yeehaw!). Dangerous creatures exist in any fantasy realm. Just be thankful you won't be encountering anything truly frightful. ^.^
Ok the server just lost any quality it had for me.
Has something like this ever been helpful?
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I keep getting booted (not crashes, booted for failed steaming or some other error)
A common bug in the current builds.
And finally, stress testing != beta testing. We're aware of what is going on with the server, we're pushing it to the limits.
Forgive me if I seemed harsh, but your post came across as butthurt / whiny. I just didn't think it was the best atmosphere to see in a thread like this. Let me make it up with this delicious :RedShroom:.
EDIT: Although we do appreciate feedback, the place for it is here. This thread is the brainstorm side of this endeavor! Keep those awesome ideas comming!
Forgive my ignorance on the subject but what steps will be taken to ensure that there is no "team stack" on this server? I can think of nothing more vexing than to learn of the weakness of a group I had just joined stemming from its lack of popularity rather than a lack of strategic skill.
It's something I've personally been thinking about the past day or two. We want to make the server fun enough so you can play with your friends, but at the same time, we don't want 20 vs 2 battles. It's something that we're going to have to look at pretty hard as we move forward, but I doubt initially it'll be too much of a difference. The issue is long-term survival and population of the factions. An issue that comes up is the fact that if we intervene, then it takes away from the RP aspect. An idea that I had that would take a fair bit of work is sorting each whitelister just before we open the server to the public, and put them in groups based on their friends. We might be able to ask those people to go into certain groups, but I'm personally against that sort of big-brother intervention.
This is going to be an organic process that we are going to have to go through as the server develops. That's my best guess.
P.S. An idea that just occurred to me is perhaps putting a type of diminishing returns on factions based on how large they get. I'm not sure what the diminshing return would effect, or what it would be yet, but it would give incentive to others being part of another, smaller faction.
EDIT: I would like to point out that something like the "fire" faction has historically been more popular among people. That sort of balance isn't something that you can really fix without pissing people off needlessly. It would just become a part of the lore that they're the "zerg" faction, and much of what they do relies on numbers.
Just to reiterate, we aren't accepting white list applications at this time. Panda mentioned it in his initial post. We're currently stress testing and seeing what we can do to the server to make it run more smoothly. Once we get the green light from Hakaslak, we'll start initial construction. After, or perhaps during, that time, we will start accepting white list applications for those interested.
In response to the guild question, we would like you all to apply individually, because we have to judge each person separately, and see if they'd be beneficial to the server. However, provided you all are accepted, it would be nice to see how a strong group works together on a faction!
As an update, right now we're testing a few different mods to see how they interact with the server. We're also continuing to beat the hell out of it, in hopes to find the weakest part that we can fix. Like I said before, Notch made a single player game, and then decided to make it multiplayer. It's yucky, in that respect. We're working hard to find solutions so everyone can have an enjoyable experience on the server.
Panda and myself have been talking about some possible game events that we would release after the launch of the server. We're really focusing on the faction and team aspect of the game, as well as the elements that each faction is associated. We have an idea of what the first event might look like, though nothing is set in stone. Let me just say that it will be epic, and you better get ready!
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Ok the server just lost any quality it had for me.
I keep getting booted (not crashes, booted for failed steaming or some other error)
Can't place anything without the server removing it.
Can't destroy a block without the server putting it back (I wasn't near spawn) wasting my tools
And the worst is it's impossible to fight a mob without a bow. They hurt you long before you can get in melee range and smack you at least 2-3 times before your hit does damage never mind creepers killing everyone.
Before at about 12pm-3pm all was fine. I could make and mine anything without a single problem (other than the crashes that is and the fact I couldn't find a single mob other than ghasts). What did you guys do?
Posts like this are not helpful. Please read the server messages and the posts by Hak and myself in regards to server status. We're currently stress testing the server to see its current limitations. This means that the server is operating at a very high load status. That means that there might be lag, etc. This is intended. We're also testing anti-grief measures. Finally, the "boot" that you're experiencing is a common problem with the latest MC build, and has nothing to do with the server.
Stress testing the new server, please logon to the test map...
IP is hakaslak.com.
Hyper-V has a restriction of 4 CPUs per VM, but it shouldn't matter as Minecraft isn't that multithreaded.
The ghasts have to go. They make constant exploding sounds but never shoot a single fire ball. Besides in a normal world they are just way to powerful.
The ghasts themselves are just there to try and rape the server. Rape it goooood.
Like Hak said above, we're stress testing the server to see how much it can handle. This is definitely not the world we'll be playing on. It's just so we can get an idea of what sort of load the server can take, what sort of lag we can expect due to Notch's programming restraints, etc.
A major concern of our's is the fact that Notch made a single player game and converted it to multiplayer without optimizing many of the features that we take for granted, like the communication between server and client. This can cause a fair amount of lag, and no matter how much power you throw at it, it doesn't fix it. It becomes an issue on a server like this because of the massive amount of PvP combat and building that will be going on in a server like this. We're trying to see if that is the case, so try and log on! Let us know if you lag a lot, what kind of lag it is, etc.
Hope to see you in-game (to kill you) >:biggrin.gif:
My name is Daemios, and I'm here to let you guys know what's going on with the server. The first thing you should know is that I'm the intermediary between the server administrator (Hakaslak) and your masterful leader Panda. Think of me as the business end. But, you know, waaay cooler.
I came across this thread browsing one day, and I was immediately fascinated by it. Since then, I've lurked the forums here, watching the progress. I currently play on Hak's server right now, which is also a PvP server, though much more casual. Obviously, since this server has its roots in a fun, PvP-based community, Hak's own opinions followed my own soon after. Recently, because of the issues with server connections, etc., we've really become interested in sponsoring Panda with a server permanently. Both Hak's and my main concern is providing a stable, fun server for you all to play on.
During the past few days, I've been in contact with Panda, working out the majority of the details, talking to him about some ideas of my own, etc. We've clicked immediately, and I feel like we're on the same page with this thing. More information will come as we move forward, but both Panda and I both felt like we should lay all these concerns about a cock-tease or no-show to rest. This server will happen, and it will be awesome.
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This is not accurate. Due to the fact that the game is unoptimized yet, especially the server client, you will definitely experience lag with 100 people in the game.
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Please refer to my post above, as well as Panda's initial post. We aren't currently accepting applications for anything. When the time comes, we'll be sure to go back through the post and pull out the names we feel are going to be useful to us. Re-posting is not required, and definitely going to be frowned upon. You aren't the only one we haven't responded to.
I'll say it again, posting dumb **** like "stfu dumbass lol" is a quick way to let us know you're not the kind of person we want on this server. Everyone chill.
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You're generalizing when you shouldn't.
Please, let's stop jumping down everyones necks. We're trying to breed mature discussion here, not childish bickering. It's an easy way to make sure you never play on the server.
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We're really only looking to use 3-4 mods right now, because of the fact that they need to be recoded to some extent each time Notch updates the server. This will change in time, when Notch adds the API system he's been promising.
Also. The server going up will be a huge deal for us. You will not be able to miss it.
The leadership system will definitely be grief proof, and I doubt panda is going to go for a system that is so fluid. The point of government is slow changing. Even revolting takes a while in the real world. Simply signing on one day with a bunch of buddies will not be enough to vote someone out.
Such is the life of the average peasant. Better bring the :--+:s .
Finally, I don't think its too early to discuss something like government. Panda is planning on setting a few leaders up initially for some structure. Those people are going to have to immediately be ready for the challenges leadership presents them, and know what direction they should be headed in. Better discuss it now than have people scrambling later. :biggrin.gif:
Also, it's not like we're discuss specific detail. It's more like we're discussing the general system, like how leaders are removed from power, what would happen then, etc. Keep those ideas comming!
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While sad as this may be to you, this is going to be RP as possible (yeehaw!). Dangerous creatures exist in any fantasy realm. Just be thankful you won't be encountering anything truly frightful. ^.^
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Has something like this ever been helpful?
A common bug in the current builds.
And finally, stress testing != beta testing. We're aware of what is going on with the server, we're pushing it to the limits.
Forgive me if I seemed harsh, but your post came across as butthurt / whiny. I just didn't think it was the best atmosphere to see in a thread like this. Let me make it up with this delicious :RedShroom:.
EDIT: Although we do appreciate feedback, the place for it is here. This thread is the brainstorm side of this endeavor! Keep those awesome ideas comming!
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It's something I've personally been thinking about the past day or two. We want to make the server fun enough so you can play with your friends, but at the same time, we don't want 20 vs 2 battles. It's something that we're going to have to look at pretty hard as we move forward, but I doubt initially it'll be too much of a difference. The issue is long-term survival and population of the factions. An issue that comes up is the fact that if we intervene, then it takes away from the RP aspect. An idea that I had that would take a fair bit of work is sorting each whitelister just before we open the server to the public, and put them in groups based on their friends. We might be able to ask those people to go into certain groups, but I'm personally against that sort of big-brother intervention.
This is going to be an organic process that we are going to have to go through as the server develops. That's my best guess.
P.S. An idea that just occurred to me is perhaps putting a type of diminishing returns on factions based on how large they get. I'm not sure what the diminshing return would effect, or what it would be yet, but it would give incentive to others being part of another, smaller faction.
EDIT: I would like to point out that something like the "fire" faction has historically been more popular among people. That sort of balance isn't something that you can really fix without pissing people off needlessly. It would just become a part of the lore that they're the "zerg" faction, and much of what they do relies on numbers.
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In response to the guild question, we would like you all to apply individually, because we have to judge each person separately, and see if they'd be beneficial to the server. However, provided you all are accepted, it would be nice to see how a strong group works together on a faction!
As an update, right now we're testing a few different mods to see how they interact with the server. We're also continuing to beat the hell out of it, in hopes to find the weakest part that we can fix. Like I said before, Notch made a single player game, and then decided to make it multiplayer. It's yucky, in that respect. We're working hard to find solutions so everyone can have an enjoyable experience on the server.
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Posts like this are not helpful. Please read the server messages and the posts by Hak and myself in regards to server status. We're currently stress testing the server to see its current limitations. This means that the server is operating at a very high load status. That means that there might be lag, etc. This is intended. We're also testing anti-grief measures. Finally, the "boot" that you're experiencing is a common problem with the latest MC build, and has nothing to do with the server.
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The ghasts themselves are just there to try and rape the server. Rape it goooood.
Like Hak said above, we're stress testing the server to see how much it can handle. This is definitely not the world we'll be playing on. It's just so we can get an idea of what sort of load the server can take, what sort of lag we can expect due to Notch's programming restraints, etc.
A major concern of our's is the fact that Notch made a single player game and converted it to multiplayer without optimizing many of the features that we take for granted, like the communication between server and client. This can cause a fair amount of lag, and no matter how much power you throw at it, it doesn't fix it. It becomes an issue on a server like this because of the massive amount of PvP combat and building that will be going on in a server like this. We're trying to see if that is the case, so try and log on! Let us know if you lag a lot, what kind of lag it is, etc.
Hope to see you in-game (to kill you) >:biggrin.gif:
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Well hi there!
My name is Daemios, and I'm here to let you guys know what's going on with the server. The first thing you should know is that I'm the intermediary between the server administrator (Hakaslak) and your masterful leader Panda. Think of me as the business end. But, you know, waaay cooler.
I came across this thread browsing one day, and I was immediately fascinated by it. Since then, I've lurked the forums here, watching the progress. I currently play on Hak's server right now, which is also a PvP server, though much more casual. Obviously, since this server has its roots in a fun, PvP-based community, Hak's own opinions followed my own soon after. Recently, because of the issues with server connections, etc., we've really become interested in sponsoring Panda with a server permanently. Both Hak's and my main concern is providing a stable, fun server for you all to play on.
During the past few days, I've been in contact with Panda, working out the majority of the details, talking to him about some ideas of my own, etc. We've clicked immediately, and I feel like we're on the same page with this thing. More information will come as we move forward, but both Panda and I both felt like we should lay all these concerns about a cock-tease or no-show to rest. This server will happen, and it will be awesome.
Expect more news in the next couple of days!