Just stop posting and quit playing Minecraft, Dreamkiller69. Same goes for anyone so disappointed with Minecraft's updates that the game is not going their way.
Honestly, if you're way too pessimistic and negative about everything that Minecraft has become, you're better off playing another game.
Honestly, this thread is so redundant. 1.8 isn't even released yet. This is pretty much the exact same thread as this one all over again.
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Kyuubis_Slave posted a message on Is the MOD API actually being developed?I get this funny feeling on these forums that a lot of the users here simply love to complain about everything. marfig for example is currently loving the opportunity to complain about the plugin api that they are working on as for him it must be released now in an imperfect state. Because Mojang is not allowed to expect only the best of their product, they are not allowed to try and include as much as they can in it to make it the most useful to the modding community as possible. No instead he wants a half finished feature that limits us all.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
But no I'm sure that even if they released a completed and amazing plugin api tomorrow there will still be people complaining about the game saying its not everything they wanted and more. Sometimes I hate being a part of the gaming community as any type of online message board or meeting place is full of whiners who love to complain about the smallest of things. -
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EMDude posted a message on Bring Back Beaches!Updated OP: 9/3/12 (Modified OP explanations, thanks to getpoopedonkid // Fixed Poll)Posted in: Suggestions
Updated OP: 3/8/12 (Fixed Poll)
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This is an screenshot of the beach gen that was re-added in Snapshot 12w01a. Please note that this is not representative of the new beaches in general, but instead an example of what the new generation can create!
Jeb appears to have simply changed the blocks which form the transition between land and the ocean biome from dirt to sand. This forms ugly clumps of sand hardly resembling beaches on hilly terrain. This DOES NOT resemble actual beaches or beaches as they once were in Beta 1.7.3! Or reality for that matter.
What should be done to correct this:- Simply limit the max height of sand that can generate to two to three blocks above sea level, which would be identical to beach generation prior to Beta 1.8. With beaches essentially being their own biome, such a change should feasibly be easy since it shouldn't conflict with other biomes. If you believe otherwise, please state so and why!
OP:
With the inclusion of the new terrain generation in recent releases, I've read about many major topics and comments having to do with terrible biome transitions involving the swamp biome and the such. However I have not seen any real topics concerning the exclusion of beaches and the issues concerning underwater bedding. So here is the point of this topic:
Summary:
1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and it needs to be restored.
This should be simple enough. Just add back beaches into the terrain generator. Also gravel beaches should be returned as well. More on that later in the topic.
2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.
The main argument against the current underwater bedding generation is that allows for easy access to large amounts of clay, and that clay was supposedly more rare in the previous generator. However, it was abundant, since the x=z clay generator bug that previously plagued the game was patched in 1.7.
However, to further address this issue, clay density and frequency can be increased to satisfy those who believe that more clay truly is necessary.[/indent]
The poor state of these aspects of the terrain generator has proven to be both an annoyance and an eyesore to me and the community as well. Beach gen prior to 1.8 paralleled realistic beaches and was more aesthetically pleasing in general. To further elaborate what I mean:
Beaches, prior 1.8
"Beaches" (along lakeside), 1.8 and later
Beaches, real life
As you can see, beaches do not actually generate in 1.8 and later, the "beaches" you see are actually not beaches at all; they are simply the outcroppings of the underwater sand bedding crossing onto the shore. This brings me to the next point: underwater bedding.
Underwater bedding (same pic as before, view the underwater portion), prior 1.8
Underwater bedding, 1.8 and later
Underwater bedding, comparison with 1.8 vs. 1.7, and real life (Borrowed from Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining)
As you can see, in 1.8 and later, underwater bedding consists of ugly patches of circular splotches, whether it be in a lake or an ocean. Previously, it was both aesthetically appealing and realistic. Clay would still be fairly abundant if the patch from 1.7 were also incorporated into clay generation. If that is not enough, we can simply have clay generated in the same manner as depicted in the picture below in higher frequencies or larger quantities:
Lastly, gravel beaches should be added back. It was a realistic feature of the old terrain generator and also broke up the monotony with the constant sand beaches. It is not a necessary feature to be re-added, though it would be nice.
Gravel Beaches, 1.7 and before
Gravel Beaches, real life
To reiterate:
1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and so, needs to be fixed.
2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.
With this said and done, I ask that these issues be addressed as soon as it is possible. If you can, please twitter or e-mail Jeb. This is technically not meant to be a petition or anything like the very popular Dear Mojang: The Swamps are Still Ugly topic, just a reminder to show that these issues must be addressed. However, you can show your support by twittering Jeb (+ link to here) or just acknowledging it here.
Tweet Jeb at: https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_
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Get Satisfaction Topic: http://www.getsatisf..._gravel_beaches
Also check out Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining topic for an in-depth look at issues concerning current terrain generation!
Try out a mod that adds beach generation back into the game! http://www.minecraft...0-biome-mod-v1/
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Dusty926 posted a message on Who Else Thinks The Snapshot disgraces Minecraft?Oh look, another one of these threads. In my humble opinion, I say, shut up. Sincerely, me.Posted in: Future Updates -
Jun 16, 20128
Sting_Auer posted a message on Jeb is so smart.... <insert sarcasm>Posted in: Recent Updates and SnapshotsQuote from 16cadrian
its not that im not bright, its just that its something needs to be fixed for 1.3
It's a snapshot. It's not done yet. They aren't releasing 1.3 until they fix the game-breaking bugs and a bunch of the little ones. -
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Flenken posted a message on Jeb is so smart.... <insert sarcasm>Snapshot.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
nuff said... -
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Mackinz posted a message on What should be done with the ender chestPosted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
No one says you shouldn't stand up.
The problem is, you're making a mountain out of a molehill and vastly over-exaggerating what the Ender Chest will do to Minecraft.
It's far, far from a serious issue. -
May 4, 2012
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Mackinz posted a message on Please do NOT make leather needed for new book recipe!!Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
Know what else makes sense?
Paperbacks.
Joking aside, Leather in book recipes makes getting Bookshelves too much of a grind when they are already plenty grindy as is. - To post a comment, please login.
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We desperately need a cave update before anything.
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Erm, this isn't new. People in this thread seem to be unaware of the fact that tools of every variety have always done more damage than fists, including shovels. It makes perfect sense that they'd be included in the combat overhaul. Whacking someone with a shovel is far more damaging than a punch, it makes sense. They aren't going to replace swords by any means. But if you're in a tight spot and your sword broke it's nice to have an alternative to survive in a pinch.
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I'm not a mapmaker and can't apply any of this information myself, but based one your well presented data I'd say this does look like yet another promising new function for mapmakers. Well done!
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I believe that's the entire point. Not sure how familiar with this game you are, but people are far more creative than building simple houses. Check YouTube. The variety is wonderful. If you want a homely looking door, go find an Oak. If you are building some castle, find a Spruce. If you want some crazy Asian architecture, find a Birch.
If they were all the same texture, that'd be horribly boring.
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Honestly, the reason I rarely post on these forums is that I have a nasty habit of being convinced that there's a chance in nether that I might just get through to people. But honestly a lot of the people playing Minecraft these days appear to be children, whom are often convinced that they know everything and that they are entitled to anything. I could write a full detailed thesis on the matter and nothing would change. My only hope is that those like myself are making ourselves heard to the devs, so that they get the appreciation and understanding they deserve. I'd hate for them to cease updates due to "Jebs Law."
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There you have it, so for god's sake give it a rest already. You kids are just never satisfied. I often browse but rarely post on this forum because the things I'd like to say to some of you people would probably violate the forum guidelines. It's positively infuriating reading this garbage. Be thankful. Be happy that you get to enjoy the worldwide phenomenon that is Minecraft. Because there truly is no game like it and having been a player since Minecraft Classic, I can tell you that it's thanks to the hard work of the devs that this game has become landslides better. And they will continue to make it better. Not many games update after official release, especially not years after. Show some appreciation, for once! I'd be delighted! I'm sure the devs would too.
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