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Greninja.

Safe:

Half-safe:

Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Unsafe:
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)

The final five!

ROUND 13

Special Rules:

• One save isn't enough. Save twice to get a character through! You cannot save the same character twice in one round!

Alive:

Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Greninja (Pokemon)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Dead:

Corvo (Dishonored)

Goomba (Mario)

Arthas, the Lich King (Warcraft)

Alder (Pokemon)

Corrin (Fire Emblem)

Marie (Splatoon)

Magnolia (Bravely Second)

Jacob (Assassin's Creed)

Steve (Minecraft)

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Samus (Metroid)
Symmetra (Overwatch)

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Round 13 begins now!

Kirby I guess.

Safe:

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Luigi (Mario)

Kirby (Kirby)

Half-safe:

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Shepard (Mass Effect)

Quote from sunperp»

I really doubt that we are going to allow a list of "bad suggestions" to be added. People have the right to post whatever suggestions they want, so long as they follow the forum rules. As I have stated before, if people do not like those suggestions and can't provide constructive criticism, they are free to not post or respond in those threads.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with you and that's the point I was trying to make. What I was saying there was that I expect anyone who does seriously believe such a list to make their case, and I would encourage them to do so.

This is especially important considering that the whole thing we're discussing in the first place is that we should encourage people to make threads for their ideas even if they are generally disliked. It would be a bit hypocritical to then dissuade people from doing the same thing in posts regarding this guide, wouldn't it? Obviously regurgitating the same old points is just spam at this point, but if somebody has something new to add they should probably add it.

I say this as someone who is currently on the side of the general consensus. In the old guide I was arguing for this on the other side of the fence - they had a list like this and most everyone was seriously opposed to my belief that it was actually a bad thing.

Quote from Chameleonred5»

Perhaps, but that seems to fall under the category of "suggestions to specifically avoid," which is an idea everyone seems to have grown allergic to.

Saying that we've grown allergic to it just seems to be a euphemistic way of saying that we randomly decided it was a bad idea for no reason. This isn't true. There was a lot of discussion on this topic which you've just dismissed, and if you think we should have a list of bad suggestions, you should make that case.

As for the actual topic at hand, no. This section is a free marketplace of ideas, and whether they're likely to be implemented or not is a non-factor, especially considering the fact that the goal here isn't to give suggestions to Mojang in the first place. Regardless, it's very shortsighted to think that Mojang would never reverse an idea. It happens frequently in the industry and there's nothing stopping Mojang from doing it if they came up with a particularly terrible idea. People should be encouraged to criticise things they don't like in the game, even if the thing itself is popular.

The most obvious example of this, and probably the suggestion being targeted here, is the reversal of 1.9 combat. I think we should all be encouraging people who don't like 1.9 combat to make their case as well as they can. There's no use in trying to silence people just because you happen to like whatever they're trying to reverse. The whole point is to beat bad ideas with better ideas, why does this suddenly stop being the case under these particular circumstances?

Any thread which just regurgitates the same tired "I don't like it please remove" that we've seen 100 times is subject to removal regardless of whether or not it is mentioned in the guide or not. Fresh arguments should be encouraged because that promotes healthy discussion. Sometimes I wonder if you're all trying to kill off the section with all of these new restrictions.

Greninja will pull through.

Safe:

Half-safe:

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Unsafe:

Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)
Shepard (Mass Effect)

Things are looking interesting now, but who will win?

ROUND 12

Special Rules:

• One save isn't enough. Save twice to get a character through! You cannot save the same character twice in one round!

Alive:

Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Greninja (Pokemon)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)
Shulk (Xenoblade)

Dead:

Corvo (Dishonored)

Goomba (Mario)

Arthas, the Lich King (Warcraft)

Alder (Pokemon)

Corrin (Fire Emblem)

Marie (Splatoon)

Magnolia (Bravely Second)

Jacob (Assassin's Creed)

Steve (Minecraft)

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Samus (Metroid)
Symmetra (Overwatch)

Round 12 begins now!

Player_Miner is right, Samus is dead, sorry guys.

Saving Link.

Safe:

Luigi (Mario)

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Shepard (Mass Effect)

Kirby (Kirby)

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Half-safe:

Greninja (Pokemon)

Unsafe:
Symmetra (Overwatch)

Greninja.

Safe:

Half-safe:

Shepard (Mass Effect)

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Luigi (Mario)

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Unsafe:

Kirby (Kirby)
Samus (Metroid)
Symmetra (Overwatch)

Slips paycheck.

ROUND 11

Special Rules:

• One save isn't enough. Save twice to get a character through! You cannot save the same character twice in one round!

Alive:

Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Samus (Metroid)
Symmetra (Overwatch)
Greninja (Pokemon)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)
Shulk (Xenoblade)

Dead:

Corvo (Dishonored)

Goomba (Mario)

Arthas, the Lich King (Warcraft)

Alder (Pokemon)

Corrin (Fire Emblem)

Marie (Splatoon)

Magnolia (Bravely Second)

Jacob (Assassin's Creed)

Steve (Minecraft)

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Round 11 begins now!

I don't see much point in including another enchanting gem alongside Lapis when Lapis is bordering on useless by itself. That, and rubies are pretty hard to get for seemingly little reward - these enchantments aren't all that powerful. I'd rather see ores like lapis and gold be developed unless the purpose of a new ore is very unique and specific.

Yes groudongirl, my hero!

Kirby.

Safe:

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Symmetra (Overwatch)

Luigi (Mario)

Shepard (Mass Effect)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Kirby (Kirby)

Half-safe:

Shulk (Xenoblade)

Unsafe:
Samus (Metroid)

Dead:

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Not sure if I'm even more offended he tried to prove me wrong or I'm crying tears of joy because he's clearly my bestest ever friend on the Minecraft Forum for this.

Shepard, because God knows he ain't getting out of this alive either way.

Safe:

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Symmetra (Overwatch)

Luigi (Mario)

Half-safe:

Greninja (Pokemon)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Shepard (Mass Effect)

Unsafe:
Kirby (Kirby)
Samus (Metroid)
Shulk (Xenoblade)

Dead:

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Symmetra, screw you BookWyrm, I know you want to vote for Sceptile! >:(

Safe:

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Symmetra (Overwatch)

Half-safe:

Greninja (Pokemon)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Luigi (Mario)

Unsafe:
Kirby (Kirby)
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Samus (Metroid)
Shulk (Xenoblade)

Dead:

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Link, because I'm a nice guy.

So to be clear, Fi is now dead and the only characters at risk of falling to the new rule are Greninja and Sceptile. Other than those two we continue as normal, meaning a total of three characters will die this round.

EDIT: Made a mistake, Hanzo and Symmetra were also at risk at this point.

Safe:

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Half-safe:

Hanzo (Overwatch)

Greninja (Pokemon)

Sceptile (Pokemon)

Unsafe:
Kirby (Kirby)
Luigi (Mario)
Shepard (Mass Effect)
Samus (Metroid)
Symmetra (Overwatch)
Shulk (Xenoblade)

Dead:

Fi (The Legend of Zelda)