Hate to be saying this, but it is likely that i as well will be stepping down from council at the next meeting. I've had a great time playing with y'all, but i no longer have time to visit the server frequently, which was where i did most of my "job" as arch magi anyway.
Still working out details, but it looks like that's going to be the way it goes. :/
I practically don't do any MC besides clans. And, mind you, CoM was my first clan. I still knock on the door every once in a while, if I'm lucky they invite me in for dinner and a stay a bit (So to speak)
Well, that attitude won't get you very far around here. Unless you are going to actively participate in the clan, how about you just go and concentrate on the clans that you *do* actively participate in.
~Sigh~ Yes, i know that ended up sounding kinda grudgy, but quite frankly, im not surprised. Please gilguy, decide what you want to do, and stick to it. I'm tired of having people such as you just popping by and expecting us to treat you like a saint.
Enough frome. Please, don't let this start a flame war. just personal opinion and such. i repeat: Let's not start an argument over this...
Ok, look Gil, you seem determined to argue with everything we say, even if we are simply being nice and offering suggestions. I don't know about the other Arch Magi, but im sick and tired of your attitude, etc, etc etc. (I've been over this already :/)
I hereby offer you 2 more suggestions:
a) As DraXX said, come join us, once in a while. People say "BOO!!" to you when you come one either because a) they are like me, and say that to everyone jokingly, or have heard bad things about you from other players, and often haven't actually got to know you in actual person. Hurry up and bury your head in the sand already. Quite frankly, if you aren't prepared to come on, and have a bit of fun, take it lightly, etc, then get the hell out, and don't come back until you ARE prepared to join us on the server, and take part in the Clan. Because, quite frankly, i'm sick and tired of your inability to accept the opinions of others, and your apparent need to argue with everything we say.
I'm not sure. By no means are we unique in ways of ideals, etc, i'm sure there are many clans out there that follow a similar structure, or goal, etc, etc etc.
When makes us unique is out community. Not the size of it, but the friendship, and willingness to help others. If you've ever been to the server, you will have noticed that almost every Magi is more than happy to assist you.
So yeah, what makes CoM special is its community and community values.
(IMO)
But in the end, this makes us an unlegit freebuild, nothing more. I think there's plenty of freebuild in the cities, let's have the wilderness represent other things like PvP combat.
I find if the server was frozen as ice it would hardly be a server. Long ago, believe it or not, people generally had the opinion that freebuild is one style of play and that not everything else is griefing. There's PvP, Roleplay, and a nomadic playstyle. For it to really be a multi-clan server, it needs to support this stuff. Not everyone is interesting in either Freebuild or Griefing and getting banned.
That isn't true. When I say full laws apply, I simply mean that server rules, such as no griefing, etc, etc, etc apply. There is nothing to stop you doing anything that fits in with the server out there. And even PvP is fine! for all means, go out there and challenge everyone you see! There is nothing to stop you. Just keep in mind to pop them a message first, as they may simply be doing a by-pass, or carrying some materials for a project, etc, that they don't want to loose.
Here's another way of putting it. Although our server is mainly standard Minecraft build, with a bit of RPG in there, anyone can play any style they wish, under two (may i say, VERY fair) conditions:
Respect server rules and leaders, and if asked, do as they ask.
Be considerate of other players and THEIR wishes
There is nothnig stopping you from playing the way you wish to gilguy, so please feel free to, but keep in mind that not everyone else plays the same way as you, so be considerate and ask first, to make sure there isn't any miscommunication going on. because that always just ends up getting ugly :/
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Gilguy i can't believe that you haven't noticed that the arch-magi don't actually want your opinion on anything so why don't you go troll somewhere else
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OK let me rephrase that then NOBODY wants your opinion in the matter
Please refrain from making degrading comments like this. Admittedly i am a little frustrated, but by all means i wish this to be kept a civil discussion over the server, etc. Comments sch as this just turn them into blood baths.
Thanks.
I've been on the server. Recently I haven't due to the fact I'm working on a texture pack. No, at this rate I will not make skins or packs for the Magi, before you ask, and I probably never will.
Was that supposed to make us feel bad, or something? If it was, then it failed dismally, just sayin'
I do agree with your goals, though. That's what we all want, a place where protection isn't needed, a place where you can not put a complete cap on all shenanigans without it going too far and everyone's house in the city getting griefed. The woods, though, PvP, Thieving, all of it should be rampant there in my opinion. There's no clan control. Don't make houses in the wild and it won't get burned down.
I'm tired of some of this attitude. Agreed, it would be great to have a community where Griefing was not the norm, but unfortunately, well, it is, and hence we require protection. But enough about the wilderness. It would almost seem you fight for it's unlawfulness simply so you are able to grief there yourself.
Let me make this clear (and this has been said by many of the other Arch-magi and Admins): The Wilderness on the Unnamed server is NOT lawless. Full laws still apply in the area, however Admins, etc. will NOT take any actions unless there is proof.
NOTE: This is NOT saying "Go grief like the winds, just don't get caught". Its saying "If you are going to grief, get off our server." Its just we don't have enough staff and time to constantly monitor Every Single Person's complaint if we offered map-wide protection.
@Nra':
Sorry about that. With the forums going into Read-only for a while, etc, a few applications have been missed.
I dont actually have time to add you in right now (Blame school for that one :/), But Furyion or another Arch-magi will add you in soon, without doubt.
@Doctor
Hrm, i swear i've seen you around before... weird. Again, 'll have to leave someone else to add you, as i'm rushing off to school. But just a head-up to everyone, there IS a nice template to use when applying :wink.gif:
Let's argue on this any further, but i'd like to make this clear:
We (well, i don't, and i think i speak on behalf of the council, correct me if i am wrong) do NOT support Griefing/Thievery of other player's buildings and items at any time, inside or out of the major cities.
It simply comes down to the fact that we offer protection from those threats inside our cities. Griefing and stealing is just as wrong outside the borders.
Although we cannot do much, as it is i the wilderness, i'm sure that the server admins are looking into it.
Although we are not allowed to set up regions otside official cities, i am more than happy to lock your chests/doors with LWC, which should prevent further theives (supposing they are not admins). I believe it also keeps a log, so it should make things easier.
With that said, lets hope this gets fixed soon :smile.gif:
We can't. If people are dumb enough to fall into the void, the game will automatically ban them from the game (from what I've heard, myself I have fallen down while removing the trampoline jump in KoL City and have gotten kicked numerous times.
At the moment I already have cleared out the Eastern Side of the moat, leaving half of the moat up for players to work/mine out.
The tower's starting to look great! Just as a warning of caution, whoever is mining out the western side of the moat please do not go beyond Y:7 down near the tower. The netharrack siding of the jail doesnt go down past that and you will be flooded by lava if you go further than that (we dont want you to lose your stuff so heed this warning)
Also, there have been some changes to the CoM Forums. It has moved to a dedicated host so uptime should be a +. There have been some new features that'll hopefully be used in the future"
~ The Calendar: Any events. meetings, etc. will be seen here and in the future you'll be able to select the event and join/sign up from the calendar menu.
~ Mumble Viewer: We now have a Mumble plugin viewer that'll allow those surfing the forums to see whose currently online in Mumble chat. A lot of people are using Mumble to their advantage and it's a great tool!
~ The App. Form: Soon, there will be a tab on the top of the forums where new members/apply-ees for CoM will go to apply for the clan. It will be setup like the same format that we have on the front page of the CoM Thread so applying shouldn't be too hard on people's brains. Once they are done with the application form, it is automatically sent to one of the nine Arch-Magi for review.
One more new topic to bring up. Yes, I have been working on the creation of 'The Book of Magi', which will be another one of our symbols for the Circle. In this book will be the events of our past as a clan, our goals and wishes, even a better understanding or meaning of what a magi is. This book will be available to view in both Adobe Acrobat Reader and as a e-book so look for it soon (I'll post a link on the CoM Forums once it is finalized). Anyone who wishes to help or wants further information, private message me.
Ok, makes sense. I'll patch it all up down to the base bedrock layer. Now considering putting a 2-deep water moat down there to A) look cool and :cool.gif: soften falls. yes/no?
I have, as some have noticed, been working on the CoM Tower moat.
Currently, i'm taking it down to the bottom bedrock layer. My idea was to remove this layer, leaving the CoM Tower 'Floating' in the void. thught it'd make for a cool effect.
Just checking with ya'll to make sure that's OK.
Once i've finished the outer rim, ill start work on the inside, and do some patching up while i'm at it (the exterior of the lower tower is a little shoddy at places)
Why does KoA have a palace? A king? Plots? That's just the way it works, right? Even something as "Trivial" as districts. You keep them. They've always been that way. Same with CoM. We take pride in the tower.
Therin lies the difference.
You are comparing two different things.
When it comes to KoA, you have mentioned things like Kings, plots of land, castles. All of these are a 'Symbol', an object which is not any specific design, but rather acts as an object that signifies their presence.
The CoM Tower is much the same. Our tower is a 'Symbol' of our clan. Wherever we manifest, we build one.
THAT is our tradition. The design of the tower itself varies.
Another good example is (For all you Anime fans out there) 'Zero' from Code Geass.
He is a masked figure. No-one knows who he really is, however he unites a huge rebellion.
I think it comes down to the fact that YES, we need to have a tower, as it signifies that we are there, and unites us as a clan, bt NO, it does not have to uphold the traditional design of past towers
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Hate to be saying this, but it is likely that i as well will be stepping down from council at the next meeting. I've had a great time playing with y'all, but i no longer have time to visit the server frequently, which was where i did most of my "job" as arch magi anyway.
Still working out details, but it looks like that's going to be the way it goes. :/
~Lemon-san
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I'm hoping that was a joke :/
We had the server updated to 1.7 within hours of the new bukkit version being released.
Well, that attitude won't get you very far around here. Unless you are going to actively participate in the clan, how about you just go and concentrate on the clans that you *do* actively participate in.
~Sigh~ Yes, i know that ended up sounding kinda grudgy, but quite frankly, im not surprised. Please gilguy, decide what you want to do, and stick to it. I'm tired of having people such as you just popping by and expecting us to treat you like a saint.
Enough frome. Please, don't let this start a flame war. just personal opinion and such. i repeat: Let's not start an argument over this...
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How about you make the effort to look yourself. Surely you can spare that much energy...
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I hereby offer you 2 more suggestions:
a) As DraXX said, come join us, once in a while. People say "BOO!!" to you when you come one either because a) they are like me, and say that to everyone jokingly, or
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I'm not sure. By no means are we unique in ways of ideals, etc, i'm sure there are many clans out there that follow a similar structure, or goal, etc, etc etc.
When makes us unique is out community. Not the size of it, but the friendship, and willingness to help others. If you've ever been to the server, you will have noticed that almost every Magi is more than happy to assist you.
So yeah, what makes CoM special is its community and community values.
(IMO)
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That isn't true. When I say full laws apply, I simply mean that server rules, such as no griefing, etc, etc, etc apply. There is nothing to stop you doing anything that fits in with the server out there. And even PvP is fine! for all means, go out there and challenge everyone you see! There is nothing to stop you. Just keep in mind to pop them a message first, as they may simply be doing a by-pass, or carrying some materials for a project, etc, that they don't want to loose.
Here's another way of putting it. Although our server is mainly standard Minecraft build, with a bit of RPG in there, anyone can play any style they wish, under two (may i say, VERY fair) conditions:
There is nothnig stopping you from playing the way you wish to gilguy, so please feel free to, but keep in mind that not everyone else plays the same way as you, so be considerate and ask first, to make sure there isn't any miscommunication going on. because that always just ends up getting ugly :/
Please refrain from making degrading comments like this. Admittedly i am a little frustrated, but by all means i wish this to be kept a civil discussion over the server, etc. Comments sch as this just turn them into blood baths.
Thanks.
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Was that supposed to make us feel bad, or something? If it was, then it failed dismally, just sayin'
I'm tired of some of this attitude. Agreed, it would be great to have a community where Griefing was not the norm, but unfortunately, well, it is, and hence we require protection. But enough about the wilderness. It would almost seem you fight for it's unlawfulness simply so you are able to grief there yourself.
Let me make this clear (and this has been said by many of the other Arch-magi and Admins):
The Wilderness on the Unnamed server is NOT lawless. Full laws still apply in the area, however Admins, etc. will NOT take any actions unless there is proof.
NOTE: This is NOT saying "Go grief like the winds, just don't get caught". Its saying "If you are going to grief, get off our server." Its just we don't have enough staff and time to constantly monitor Every Single Person's complaint if we offered map-wide protection.
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Sorry about that. With the forums going into Read-only for a while, etc, a few applications have been missed.
I dont actually have time to add you in right now (Blame school for that one :/), But Furyion or another Arch-magi will add you in soon, without doubt.
@Doctor
Hrm, i swear i've seen you around before... weird. Again, 'll have to leave someone else to add you, as i'm rushing off to school. But just a head-up to everyone, there IS a nice template to use when applying :wink.gif:
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We (well, i don't, and i think i speak on behalf of the council, correct me if i am wrong) do NOT support Griefing/Thievery of other player's buildings and items at any time, inside or out of the major cities.
It simply comes down to the fact that we offer protection from those threats inside our cities. Griefing and stealing is just as wrong outside the borders.
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Although we cannot do much, as it is i the wilderness, i'm sure that the server admins are looking into it.
Although we are not allowed to set up regions otside official cities, i am more than happy to lock your chests/doors with LWC, which should prevent further theives (supposing they are not admins). I believe it also keeps a log, so it should make things easier.
With that said, lets hope this gets fixed soon :smile.gif:
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Ok, makes sense. I'll patch it all up down to the base bedrock layer. Now considering putting a 2-deep water moat down there to A) look cool and :cool.gif: soften falls. yes/no?
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I have, as some have noticed, been working on the CoM Tower moat.
Currently, i'm taking it down to the bottom bedrock layer. My idea was to remove this layer, leaving the CoM Tower 'Floating' in the void. thught it'd make for a cool effect.
Just checking with ya'll to make sure that's OK.
Once i've finished the outer rim, ill start work on the inside, and do some patching up while i'm at it (the exterior of the lower tower is a little shoddy at places)
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Therin lies the difference.
You are comparing two different things.
When it comes to KoA, you have mentioned things like Kings, plots of land, castles. All of these are a 'Symbol', an object which is not any specific design, but rather acts as an object that signifies their presence.
The CoM Tower is much the same. Our tower is a 'Symbol' of our clan. Wherever we manifest, we build one.
THAT is our tradition. The design of the tower itself varies.
Another good example is (For all you Anime fans out there) 'Zero' from Code Geass.
He is a masked figure. No-one knows who he really is, however he unites a huge rebellion.
I think it comes down to the fact that YES, we need to have a tower, as it signifies that we are there, and unites us as a clan, bt NO, it does not have to uphold the traditional design of past towers