I've tried installing Minecraft Java Edition on a Windows 10 laptop with Ryzen 5 CPU and Vega 8 GPU.
When starting the game, it goes to the main menu, but the background animation is super slow with half-second freezes... but otherwise the menu is usable. If I try to start a game, however, it starts loading very slowly and keeps going for over half an hour, which I don't think is normal.
I searched online but didn't see anything about this particular issue, so I thought I'd ask here.
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I don't think it's that. Computer is basically idle and cold. If it was thermal, it would work correctly and then slow down.
My other high-performance laptop, if I run intensive game, CPU shoots up to 92° and GPU to ~85° and it stays there, with 2 fans to regulate temperature. Rendering Doom Eternal at highest quality (except texture sizes) at 120-144fps. It's the normal operating temperature range of the CPU and GPU. (to be clear, that's a different computer)
When I'm just opening the game, the menu lags with idle GPU at 70°.
I don't think it's that. Computer is basically idle and cold. If it was thermal, it would work correctly and then slow down.
My other high-performance laptop, if I run intensive game, CPU shoots up to 92° and GPU to ~85° and it stays there, with 2 fans to regulate temperature. Rendering Doom Eternal at highest quality (except texture sizes) at 120-144fps. It's the normal operating temperature range of the CPU and GPU. (to be clear, that's a different computer)
When I'm just opening the game, the menu lags with idle GPU at 70°.
then explain why the task manager shows the GPU at 83 C when only used at 1%. GPU throttling.
Problem occurs when GPU is still at 70 degree. Any other idea?
70 is still high, but normally wouldn't cause throttling. idles should ideally be no more than 50. for reference, the stock cooler on my desktop PC's GPU keeps the temps below 70 even under long-term sustained full load.
There's really not much difference between "balance" vs "performance" power modes. That wouldn't explain such lag.
The only explanation is "unsupported hardware", but I haven't seen others complaining about it with Ryzen CPUs. I'd be curious which component is unsupported. Ryzen CPU or Vega 8 graphics?
Unless there's something else in the equation that nobody thought about. It doesn't seem like something that can be fixed on our side.
Perhaps the Windows 10 version would work since it's built differently, but I read that it has lesser mod capabilities.
Minecraft runs rather fantastically on my Ryzen CPU, but I don't know about the Vega GPU as I don't have one. It should definitely be more capable than my laptop with Intel onboard graphics though, and it runs recent Minecraft versions decently for what it is (low end hardware).
And 83C is warm, but not too unusual (especially for a laptop), and it shouldn't be causing thermal throttling. That said, it DOES seem that is what is happening in your case, as that CPU has a base speed of 2 GHz and it's running at just under half that. Usually around 80C isn't dangerous (nor unusual for a GPU especially), but different parts have different thermal limits. I've seen my CPU (stock cooling for now) and GPU both get to ~79C (possibly a bit beyond at times) and I don't lose any performance whatsoever though, nor do they throttle.
The "Windows 10 edition" (or rather, just "Minecraft", as the "Java edition" isn't the standard version anymore) is fundamentally different, yes. The Bedrock version (of which it is) is basically the old pocket edition evolved, and it's the underlying version of almost all modern versions (Java edition aside, of course). Anything made for Java will not work on the other version, and vice versa, at least not natively/by default, anyway. It may well help you, as it's a better performing version overall, but you'll pretty much be avoiding the fact that your PC has an issue.
I've tried installing Minecraft Java Edition on a Windows 10 laptop with Ryzen 5 CPU and Vega 8 GPU.
When starting the game, it goes to the main menu, but the background animation is super slow with half-second freezes... but otherwise the menu is usable. If I try to start a game, however, it starts loading very slowly and keeps going for over half an hour, which I don't think is normal.
I searched online but didn't see anything about this particular issue, so I thought I'd ask here.
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what's your CPU speed in task manager while running the game?
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Here's a screenshot of CPU usage
This forum throws an error when trying to post the log, so I've uploaded it here
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yeah your system is running WAAAAAY too hot. it's thermal throttling.
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Your GPU is hot enough to cook eggs!
it literally is.
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I don't think it's that. Computer is basically idle and cold. If it was thermal, it would work correctly and then slow down.
My other high-performance laptop, if I run intensive game, CPU shoots up to 92° and GPU to ~85° and it stays there, with 2 fans to regulate temperature. Rendering Doom Eternal at highest quality (except texture sizes) at 120-144fps. It's the normal operating temperature range of the CPU and GPU. (to be clear, that's a different computer)
When I'm just opening the game, the menu lags with idle GPU at 70°.
then explain why the task manager shows the GPU at 83 C when only used at 1%. GPU throttling.
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Problem occurs when GPU is still at 70 degree. Any other idea?
70 is still high, but normally wouldn't cause throttling. idles should ideally be no more than 50. for reference, the stock cooler on my desktop PC's GPU keeps the temps below 70 even under long-term sustained full load.
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As mentioned - its a Laptop - 70 for a laptop is a normal temperature
Check your power settings
Maybe Java is not recognized as running game and the laptop still runs in a balanced power mode
There's really not much difference between "balance" vs "performance" power modes. That wouldn't explain such lag.
The only explanation is "unsupported hardware", but I haven't seen others complaining about it with Ryzen CPUs. I'd be curious which component is unsupported. Ryzen CPU or Vega 8 graphics?
Unless there's something else in the equation that nobody thought about. It doesn't seem like something that can be fixed on our side.
Perhaps the Windows 10 version would work since it's built differently, but I read that it has lesser mod capabilities.
Minecraft runs rather fantastically on my Ryzen CPU, but I don't know about the Vega GPU as I don't have one. It should definitely be more capable than my laptop with Intel onboard graphics though, and it runs recent Minecraft versions decently for what it is (low end hardware).
And 83C is warm, but not too unusual (especially for a laptop), and it shouldn't be causing thermal throttling. That said, it DOES seem that is what is happening in your case, as that CPU has a base speed of 2 GHz and it's running at just under half that. Usually around 80C isn't dangerous (nor unusual for a GPU especially), but different parts have different thermal limits. I've seen my CPU (stock cooling for now) and GPU both get to ~79C (possibly a bit beyond at times) and I don't lose any performance whatsoever though, nor do they throttle.
The "Windows 10 edition" (or rather, just "Minecraft", as the "Java edition" isn't the standard version anymore) is fundamentally different, yes. The Bedrock version (of which it is) is basically the old pocket edition evolved, and it's the underlying version of almost all modern versions (Java edition aside, of course). Anything made for Java will not work on the other version, and vice versa, at least not natively/by default, anyway. It may well help you, as it's a better performing version overall, but you'll pretty much be avoiding the fact that your PC has an issue.