Over the years, Minecraft has grown from a simple building game to an epic sandbox survival game. Starting with just a few blocks, it has grown to add many new mobs, items, and tools that allow players to make and do all kinds of creative things. It is with this in mind that I propose a new mob that I think would contribute to the spirit of Minecraft.
And it doesn't hurt that this is a water-based mob, something that Minecraft doesn't have much of.
The Fanfish
(Note: All ideas are open for tweaking based on other people's ideas, including the name. I'm not fond of the name Fanfish)
Description
The Fanfish is a water dwelling hostile mob that resides in deep waters such as an Ocean biome. It is a very unique mob, with it's own special attack that is different than any other mob and a unique item that it drops when killed. In another first for Minecraft, it actually has two separate models, depending on if your graphics are set to Fast or Fancy.
Statistics
Spawn Criteria
Must spawn in at least a 7x7x7 area of water
Size
2x2x1 Blocks (LxWxH)
Health
Easy: 4 Hearts (8 HP total)
Normal: 6 Hearts (12 HP total)
Hard/Hardcore: 8 Hearts (16 HP total)
Damage
All Difficulties: 0 (Uses an indirect attack, see the Attack section)
Images
When I was doing concept ideas for this mob, I got inspired to build a scale 3D model of it using Autodesk 3DS Max. I'm not a very good pixel artist, so I would love it if you guys downloaded them and showed me some coloring ideas.
Keep in mind that these images are larger than what you would see in the game. Each square that makes up the mob's body represents one pixel of what the final model would be.
Top
Front
Isometric (Fast Graphics)
Isometric (Fancy Graphics)
Isometric GIF (Fancy Graphics)
Behavior
Movement
Stays 6-12 blocks beneath the water's surface
If not actively pursuing a player it will randomly make a whirlpool for a few seconds before moving to a new area.
Has the same player detection range as the Spider, but cannot see through solid blocks
Tries to stay underneath the player, backs away if it cannot
Attack
Creates a Whirlpool, sucking the player down and trying to drown them
Cannot move while making a Whirlpool
Whirlpools last a minimum of 4 seconds (If player is caught in whirlpool it stays until the player dies, escapes, or kills the mob)
The Whirlpool
An entity spawned by the Fanfish that swirls a player around and tries to suck them down. Whirlpools are made of three sections:
The Top, which starts at the surface of the water and takes up a 5x5x2 area
The Middle, starting directly underneath the top and taking up a 3x3x2 area
The Bottom, which is directly below the middle and above the Fanfish. Takes up a 1x1x2 area
Caught in a Whirlpool
When you get caught in a whirlpool, the swirling and pressure causes you to drown faster than if you were just underwater. The following numbers are based off of the current game statistics of the Air Meter lasting 15 seconds and players taking approximately 2 damage (1 full Heart) per second when drowning.
Normal Drowning: Air Meter (15 seconds) | 2 damage () per second
Whirlpool (Easy): Air Meter (12 seconds) | 3 damage () per second
Whirlpool (Normal): Air Meter (9 seconds) | 3 damage () per second
Whirlpool (Hard/Hardcore): Air Meter (6 seconds) | 4 damage () per second
Interacting With a Fanfish
Avoiding
Build Bridges over where they can spawn so you don't have to fight them.
Use Boats (Fanfish can only destroy a boat if it stays in the center of a whirlpool for 3 seconds or by the boat changing course from the whirlpool and crashing
Stay in shallow water (Due to the 7x7x7 area requirement)
Fighting
Swim to middle of whirlpool
Look down
Attack the Fanfish, which will cause it to temporarily stop creating a whirlpool after it takes 2 damage
Drop
Fan Scale The Fan Scale can be used to make a Water Breathing potion, returning a once available potion back into the game. (removed, as Pufferfish now create this potion)
It is also used to create the Fan Block, which is described in the next section. My current thought is that this item would have a drop rate of about 33%. Here is a picture of the Fan Scale, courtesy of thisguy1045.
The Fan Block
Description
Many people are familiar with the Fan Block that is added through some mod or another (I don't use mods so I don't remember which, think it was by Phaeff). It is an block that can blow items or mobs that get in front of the fan.
Appearance
The appearance would resemble an unpowered Piston, except the wood part of the Piston would resemble a fan enclosed in an iron frame
Crafting Recipe
My Idea
The Feather represents the Fan Scale
Once I get a picture of the the Fan Block I will update the crafting recipe. I'm also interested in hearing alternatives for recipes.
Behavior
The Fan Block is powered by Redstone, and is placed like a Piston. One face of the block is where the air comes from. The Fan Block blows four blocks in the direction that the block is facing. These air currents can be mixed similar to water paths coming from multiple water source blocks. They have a maximum range of 4 blocks, and any solid block obstructs the fan.
To go into a bit more detail, the Fan Block actually creates four "Wind" blocks in front of it when powered. These blocks are invisible, like air, and cannot be broken. They have special interaction with Water (possibly Lava) that will be covered below.
Pushing Entities
Items: Can be pushed 4 blocks in any direction except down (because of gravity). This can be used to make item elevators or to move items uphill. Experience is not affected.
Mobs/Players: Mobs and Players interact with the block differently than items do. There are multiple ways they can interact with the Fan Block depending on how many fan blocks are affecting them, if they are running towards or away from a Fan Block, and if there is a Fan Block above or below them.
Land Movement
Fan Block Below
Jumping off of a Fan Block allows the mobs to jump an extra block high.
Lowers Fall Damage by 8 blocks (If you land on it)
Fan Block Above
Restricts Jumping to Half a Block
Running Against Fan Block
One Fan: No speed reduction
Two Fans (One on top of the other, both facing player): 25% speed reduction
One Fan: 25% speed reduction
Two Fans: 50% speed reduction
On Normal Land
On Ice/Jumping
Running With Fan Block
One Fan: No speed increase
Two Fans (One on top of the other, both facing player): 25% speed increase
One Fan: 25% speed increase
Two Fans: 50% speed increase
On Normal Land
On Ice/Jumping
Elytra Movement
The wind from the Fan Block has a large impact on Elytra movement. Flying within the 4 "wind" blocks can drastically alter the Elytra's course. If you fly over a Fan Block blowing air upwards will give you a large amount of vertical lift, which will help people fly further without needing to land or use Fireworks. If one is to your right and blowing on you, it will push you to the left and vice versa. One above you and pointing down can cause you to enter a nosedive.
This allows people better methods to gain height and can allow people to make obstacle courses or other fun things like indoor "skydiving"
Fan Blocks in Water - The Current Block
The Fan Block has another use (credits to Bob Fizzle and bebe33) when placed in water. It becomes a Current block, acting as a jet that pushes the water, or in certain cases, pulls it. However, there are many different ways it can be used in water, so consider this section under construction for now.
Solid Water
The Fan Block will not displace Water Source Blocks the way it will flowing water, but will push entities and items through Water Sources.
Flowing Water
The Fan Block has the ability to redirect flowing water with the wind generated when it is powered. Flowing water is any water that is generated from a Water Source block, such as the water below:
The Red Wool indicates the location of the Water Source Block, and the White Wool is any flowing water. Now let's throw a Fan Block, which is represented by a non-cooking Furnace. the front of the Furnace indicates the front of the Fan Block:
Now let's power it up (Cooking Furnace represents being powered):
So basically, any flowing Water that comes into contact with the wind generated by a powered Fan Block basically acts as if it were obstructed by a solid block and redirects as it normally does. It can even prevent water from falling down vertically, acting as an alternative to using a Sign or a Ladder.
Here is the same set up with multiple powered Fan Blocks:
But if the Wind made from a Fan Block is stopped by a solid block (our Gold Block in the picture below), then it behaves as expected and the wind stops there:
So it is fairly simple to remember the hierarchy here. Water obstructs nothing, Wind obstructs Water, and Solid obstructs both.
That's basically my take on this mob at this point in time, I appreciate any feedback or changes you guys think I should make. And as I said, feel free to give your designs of the mob, the drop, or the Fan Block if you want. Thanks for reading.
Supporters (5 Partial, 1 Implied, 26 Full (32 Total))
Neospector (The mob, not so much the Fan Block)
megaman16
CreeperManDude
WHITEGUY999 (The mob, not so much the Fan Block)
Prinny94812
Sting_Auer
jc3833
Megaloneus
FailingAtFailing
rarekwiebus (More the Fan Block than the mob)
Urdothor
MissingAxis
Stinky_Mc_Reynolds (confusing support)
sugarmaster1
unitedsquadron3
Bob Fizzle
bebe33
Hass_Harley
SuperJoeMan (partial support)
thisguy1045 (thanks for the item image)
FriendofFood
FallaciousFoxtrot (Silly militaristic support)
eskilfm (the mob, not so much the Fan Block)
GerbilCrab475 (convinced me to make the Water Breathing Potion use official)
CodenameDuchess
04Leonhardt (Support, with idea to make whirlpools. considering it)
jpmrocks
0_Zippy
Deonyi
Dwarvenhero81
flaminghawk83 (I think? Wasn't exactly said but implied support)
MM16201
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I believe Neospecter has quoted just about exactly what I was going to say, except for the fan block, Fan blocks underwater would be awesome, I'm imagining bubbly currents pushing you about.
I like both ideas. The fan block sounds like it could be used for a really interesting jump map or a new mechanic for traps. Although the mob itself doesn't sound like a fan but more like a vaccuum. Speaking of which, could there be a way to reverse the fan so that it can act as a vaccuum? All it would do is invert the behaviors you mentioned.
I like both ideas. The fan block sounds like it could be used for a really interesting jump map or a new mechanic for traps.
That's what I had thought, it'd be cool, but what I was thinking about at the time didn't make it fit well. I suppose there could be a way to make it work well in the game, I just couldn't think of one.
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[quote=Badgerz]You have to keep in mind that people are stupid.
[quote=Catelite]Just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't make it broken or pointless. >_<
i would have the fan blocks used on entities like on items, tht way i could use them as an elevator to just step on, if i got realy good with redstone, i would have buttons that trigger different ones
I like both ideas. The fan block sounds like it could be used for a really interesting jump map or a new mechanic for traps. Although the mob itself doesn't sound like a fan but more like a vaccuum. Speaking of which, could there be a way to reverse the fan so that it can act as a vaccuum? All it would do is invert the behaviors you mentioned.
It's certainly possible I suppose. I'm just not sure how some of the things would work if the current was inverted such as if one is over your head and you jump or things like that.
I also had a few theories on how it could work with water but I didn't put anything in the OP yet about it because I wasn't sure. I was thinking that with still water (like if it was underwater, facing north for example) it would just force the four water blocks that would be affected by it to change from still water to flowing water. But I don't know what would be done if you made it facing up as water cannot flow that direction.
i would have the fan blocks used on entities like on items, tht way i could use them as an elevator to just step on, if i got realy good with redstone, i would have buttons that trigger different ones
I initially thought about that, but decided to make it like this for now. If a lot of people like that idea I have no problem changing it. I'm also working on some art stuff for the Fan Scale and Fan block by editing different parts of the default textures. I'll throw some ideas up when I get more work done on them.
Also, does anyone have an idea for a new name for this? I kind of really hate the Fanfish because it is more like a vacuum than a fan lie Prinny94812 said.
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Is this really dead? I was directed to this and I love the idea of a fan and this makes water travel much harder and promotes the use of boats even more!
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I don't know about the fanfish. I just hope Notch finally decides to make a huge seahorse with poison attacks as boss in the seas. But its original nontheless.
Notch doesn't work on MineCraft anymore, and even if he did, he's too lazy to properly implement anything.
That's basically my take on this mob at this point in time, I appreciate any feedback or changes you guys think I should make. And as I said, feel free to give your designs of the mob, the drop, or the Fan Block if you want. Thanks for reading.
Perhaps in water, the fan block could create a water current where there are source blocks, so that there's a way to easily control water currents in multiple layers of water?
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I love this idea! The fanfish is a fairly goofy design (which i mean in the best of ways), and the Fan Block would have so much mapmaking potential. Not to mention the fact that oceans will have something interesting inside them for once!
Over the years, Minecraft has grown from a simple building game to an epic sandbox survival game. Starting with just a few blocks, it has grown to add many new mobs, items, and tools that allow players to make and do all kinds of creative things. It is with this in mind that I propose a new mob that I think would contribute to the spirit of Minecraft.
And it doesn't hurt that this is a water-based mob, something that Minecraft doesn't have much of.
(Note: All ideas are open for tweaking based on other people's ideas, including the name. I'm not fond of the name Fanfish)
Contents
Fanfish
Description
Statistics
Images
Behavior
Attack
Interacting with Mob
Drop
Drop Related Item: Fan Block
Description
Behavior
Description
The Fanfish is a water dwelling hostile mob that resides in deep waters such as an Ocean biome. It is a very unique mob, with it's own special attack that is different than any other mob and a unique item that it drops when killed. In another first for Minecraft, it actually has two separate models, depending on if your graphics are set to Fast or Fancy.
Statistics
Spawn Criteria
Must spawn in at least a 7x7x7 area of water
Size
2x2x1 Blocks (LxWxH)
Health
Damage
All Difficulties: 0 (Uses an indirect attack, see the Attack section)
Images
When I was doing concept ideas for this mob, I got inspired to build a scale 3D model of it using Autodesk 3DS Max. I'm not a very good pixel artist, so I would love it if you guys downloaded them and showed me some coloring ideas.
Keep in mind that these images are larger than what you would see in the game. Each square that makes up the mob's body represents one pixel of what the final model would be.
Top
Front
Isometric (Fast Graphics)
Isometric (Fancy Graphics)
Isometric GIF (Fancy Graphics)
Behavior
Movement
Attack
The Whirlpool
When you get caught in a whirlpool, the swirling and pressure causes you to drown faster than if you were just underwater. The following numbers are based off of the current game statistics of the Air Meter lasting 15 seconds and players taking approximately 2 damage (1 full Heart) per second when drowning.
Interacting With a Fanfish
Avoiding
Fighting
Drop
Fan Scale
The Fan Scale can be used to make a Water Breathing potion, returning a once available potion back into the game.(removed, as Pufferfish now create this potion)It is also used to create the Fan Block, which is described in the next section. My current thought is that this item would have a drop rate of about 33%. Here is a picture of the Fan Scale, courtesy of thisguy1045.
Crafting Recipe
My Idea
The Feather represents the Fan Scale
Once I get a picture of the the Fan Block I will update the crafting recipe. I'm also interested in hearing alternatives for recipes.
Behavior
The Fan Block is powered by Redstone, and is placed like a Piston. One face of the block is where the air comes from. The Fan Block blows four blocks in the direction that the block is facing. These air currents can be mixed similar to water paths coming from multiple water source blocks. They have a maximum range of 4 blocks, and any solid block obstructs the fan.
To go into a bit more detail, the Fan Block actually creates four "Wind" blocks in front of it when powered. These blocks are invisible, like air, and cannot be broken. They have special interaction with Water (possibly Lava) that will be covered below.
Pushing Entities
Items: Can be pushed 4 blocks in any direction except down (because of gravity). This can be used to make item elevators or to move items uphill. Experience is not affected.
Mobs/Players: Mobs and Players interact with the block differently than items do. There are multiple ways they can interact with the Fan Block depending on how many fan blocks are affecting them, if they are running towards or away from a Fan Block, and if there is a Fan Block above or below them.
Land Movement
Elytra Movement
The wind from the Fan Block has a large impact on Elytra movement. Flying within the 4 "wind" blocks can drastically alter the Elytra's course. If you fly over a Fan Block blowing air upwards will give you a large amount of vertical lift, which will help people fly further without needing to land or use Fireworks. If one is to your right and blowing on you, it will push you to the left and vice versa. One above you and pointing down can cause you to enter a nosedive.
This allows people better methods to gain height and can allow people to make obstacle courses or other fun things like indoor "skydiving"
Fan Blocks in Water - The Current Block
The Fan Block has another use (credits to Bob Fizzle and bebe33) when placed in water. It becomes a Current block, acting as a jet that pushes the water, or in certain cases, pulls it. However, there are many different ways it can be used in water, so consider this section under construction for now.
Solid Water
The Fan Block will not displace Water Source Blocks the way it will flowing water, but will push entities and items through Water Sources.
Flowing Water
The Red Wool indicates the location of the Water Source Block, and the White Wool is any flowing water. Now let's throw a Fan Block, which is represented by a non-cooking Furnace. the front of the Furnace indicates the front of the Fan Block:
Now let's power it up (Cooking Furnace represents being powered):
So basically, any flowing Water that comes into contact with the wind generated by a powered Fan Block basically acts as if it were obstructed by a solid block and redirects as it normally does. It can even prevent water from falling down vertically, acting as an alternative to using a Sign or a Ladder.
Here is the same set up with multiple powered Fan Blocks:
But if the Wind made from a Fan Block is stopped by a solid block (our Gold Block in the picture below), then it behaves as expected and the wind stops there:
So it is fairly simple to remember the hierarchy here. Water obstructs nothing, Wind obstructs Water, and Solid obstructs both.
That's basically my take on this mob at this point in time, I appreciate any feedback or changes you guys think I should make. And as I said, feel free to give your designs of the mob, the drop, or the Fan Block if you want. Thanks for reading.
Supporters (5 Partial, 1 Implied, 26 Full (32 Total))
megaman16
CreeperManDude
WHITEGUY999 (The mob, not so much the Fan Block)
Prinny94812
Sting_Auer
jc3833
Megaloneus
FailingAtFailing
rarekwiebus (More the Fan Block than the mob)
Urdothor
MissingAxis
Stinky_Mc_Reynolds (confusing support)
sugarmaster1
unitedsquadron3
Bob Fizzle
bebe33
Hass_Harley
SuperJoeMan (partial support)
thisguy1045 (thanks for the item image)
FriendofFood
FallaciousFoxtrot (Silly militaristic support)
eskilfm (the mob, not so much the Fan Block)
GerbilCrab475 (convinced me to make the Water Breathing Potion use official)
CodenameDuchess
04Leonhardt (Support, with idea to make whirlpools. considering it)
jpmrocks
0_Zippy
Deonyi
Dwarvenhero81
flaminghawk83 (I think? Wasn't exactly said but implied support)
MM16201
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[quote=Badgerz]You have to keep in mind that people are stupid.
[quote=Catelite]Just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't make it broken or pointless. >_<
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Sometimes, you just need a little more cave.
It would make item conveyor belts more practical, and it adds a much-needed water combat mob!
Total support!
That's what I had thought, it'd be cool, but what I was thinking about at the time didn't make it fit well. I suppose there could be a way to make it work well in the game, I just couldn't think of one.
[quote=Badgerz]You have to keep in mind that people are stupid.
[quote=Catelite]Just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't make it broken or pointless. >_<
It's certainly possible I suppose. I'm just not sure how some of the things would work if the current was inverted such as if one is over your head and you jump or things like that.
I also had a few theories on how it could work with water but I didn't put anything in the OP yet about it because I wasn't sure. I was thinking that with still water (like if it was underwater, facing north for example) it would just force the four water blocks that would be affected by it to change from still water to flowing water. But I don't know what would be done if you made it facing up as water cannot flow that direction.
I initially thought about that, but decided to make it like this for now. If a lot of people like that idea I have no problem changing it. I'm also working on some art stuff for the Fan Scale and Fan block by editing different parts of the default textures. I'll throw some ideas up when I get more work done on them.
Also, does anyone have an idea for a new name for this? I kind of really hate the Fanfish because it is more like a vacuum than a fan lie Prinny94812 said.
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It fills both the need for a water mob and for a great new machine.
As for the water effect, I imagine it could be used to a slightly lesser effect to represent the water resistance.
Oh wait! There is!
Notch doesn't work on MineCraft anymore, and even if he did, he's too lazy to properly implement anything.
Full support.
Perhaps in water, the fan block could create a water current where there are source blocks, so that there's a way to easily control water currents in multiple layers of water?
Any possibility that the fan block will also make whirlpools? Just not guided ones?