Redundant in the sense that all holidays are pointless? I wouldn't totally agree with that. Most of them are pointless but it is possible for a day of celebration to have a point.
As they are now, they no longer (to most people) celebrate what they originally did. Thanksgiving is about eating and being a glutton and celebrating that rather than.. actually come to think of it I'm not really sure what it "celebrated" before that, since it was really just a precursor to infecting the native population with smallpox. Christmas is about celebrating materialism, not the birth of christ, unless you are some sort of super orthodox christian, then you might remember what it is "really" about, in which case you might even celebrate it on the more accurate date. Easter is about pink rabbits shitting chocolate eggs into brightly coloured plastic baskets and painting chicken eggs, and not about the resurrection of Christ. Halloween is about gutting bright-orange gourds and carving pictures into them, typically faces, and not as a celebration of the fall harvest- which it is based on.
Very few holidays as celebrated today are either celebrated in the same fashion they were many years ago nor do they seem to celebrate the same thing; The celebrations are no longer in sync with that which they celebrate.
That isn't really the point; though, particularly in relevance to christian holidays, which were pretty much "made up" (insomuch as their dates are concerned, at least) to replace non-christian traditional holidays that were celebrated. It's easier to replace the 'purpose' than it was to replace the method. And around that it was necessary to weave even more fictions involving fat men bearing gifts and flying reindeer and chocolate shitting pink rabbits, And the secular nature of those celebrations allowed it to permeate into other cultures, at least in part.
Many holidays are pointless. if you don't like that, don't celebrate them. No harm no foul. I don't celebrate... well, any holiday at all (I do observe Rememberance day though, for sure). I don't even celebrate my own birthday, but I don't go around grumping about how other people celebrate holidays or their birthdays or anything. I just don't care.
So what if some holidays have become, or some people perceive that those holidays have been usurped for corporate interest and selling products? I don't buy it. I don't make purchases. It's not my money being spent on it, so I don't care.
Valentines day is pointless. It's just an extensive marketing ploy to get the population to buy valentines day cards, candy, and jewelry. I'm a happily married man and I've never celebrated Valentines Day with my wife. Does that mean I don't love her? Of course not. I treat my wife with the love and respect that she deserves every day. The fact that society has designated a specific day to treat the one you love well is ludicrous.
You don't have to subscribe to the commercialization to celebrate the holiday. How often do you and your wife just go for a stroll and watch the sunset together? You could use the holiday as an excuse to get out and just be with each other, while escaping from the tedium of everyday life. The themes of the holidays give them more interest. If there were a generic celebration every month, it wouldn't feel as special. It would be like going to church on Sundays. Since the point of a holiday is to offer a break from the tedium of everyday life, it helps to have a silly gimmick.
It's fun to dress strangely. Halloween is a holiday that releases us from the tedium of our wardrobe. Thanksgiving releases us from the tedium of our diets. Christmas is a time to be with relatives who you may not see very often. So in a way it releases us from the tedium of who we see on a daily basis. Holidays such as Independence Day and Canada Day offer release from tedium in the form of blowing **** up. Who doesn't like to watch colorful explosions? Valentine's Day, as I mentioned, is a time to break away from the tedium of everyday life and be with the one you love. St. Patrick's Day is an excuse to break from tedium and drink beer. Cinco de Mayo is an excuse to break from tedium and drink cerveza.
Each has a unique purpose and theme to make it more interesting and more of a break from tedium than a generic monthly holiday would be. After a few monthly holidays, the holiday would no longer be a break from tedium. It would itself be tedious. The irregular spacing between holidays adds to the interest. Each time of year is different and has different celebrations at different intervals. When the weather is nasty, people need more excuses to celebrate. In the Summer people have enough fun things to do, so not as many holidays are necessary.
If you want to celebrate the first of every month, go right ahead. If your employer is very understanding, you might even get the day off. But irregular, silly, themed holidays have mass appeal because they're irregular, silly, and themed.
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There was a reason it was celebrated originally, but it has to do with pagan beliefs...
Halloween has no true purpose, but it's the perfect time for kids to have fun dressing up. If it really bothers you, throw the candy at the children instead of handing it to them; trust me, it's much more fun that way...
There was a reason it was celebrated originally, but it has to do with pagan beliefs...
Halloween has no true purpose, but it's the perfect time for kids to have fun dressing up. If it really bothers you, throw the candy at the children instead of handing it to them; trust me, it's much more fun that way...
Also, Valentine's Day is legit.
Valentine's day may be legit, but a lot of people are forever alone.
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You people make me laugh. All someone has to do is post an opinionated statement and you rally against it. "Ohnoes you hates halloweenies? You suck." heh heh heh.
So what if some holidays have become, or some people perceive that those holidays have been usurped for corporate interest and selling products? I don't buy it. I don't make purchases. It's not my money being spent on it, so I don't care.
I agree. I don't care what other people do either. I haven't ordered anyone to do anything. All I've done is share an opinion, one that you apparently agree with. If the two of us, seemingly rational individuals, feel this way why not share our wisdom with others?
This thread makes me sad, and it makes me sad that you don't appreciate Halloween, sad for myself that is, if it makes you happy not to celebrate Halloween then go for :happy.gif:.
I love Halloween, not for the candy, nor the costumes, but the atmosphere and decorations and the seasonal treats (pumpkin pie and such). I love the season of Halloween, and I love love love decorating for Halloween. I love the History of the holiday very much! I love that incense goes on sale, I love the colour palette of the Holiday(and the season). I love the creatures associated with Halloween, I love carving pumpkins, I love... well almost everything about it!
I feel it would be a terrible shame to see the loss of such a magnificent holiday. If I am allowed only one holiday to celebrate it is Halloween.
Sounds like someone is insecure of their inner-child.
I still Trick-or-Treat and I'm 18.
Besides, celebrating Halloween is the introduction to fall. Seeing pumpkins and the changing of the leaves with the premature darkness is awesome. Having that bone-chilling aurora breathing down your neck is amazing.
Oh I stay at home but it's hardly boring. I'll have my own little sexy parties without all you kiddies. Pretty sure it would be illegal to invite you anyway.
I disagree, I for one love dressing up as a troll, or something crazy without anyone saying "Why the hell are you wearing that? Dude just get away, creep." Plus free candy is always nice, and when you don't feel like trick or treating, you can just lay around inside watching TV with a bag of butterfingers.
TL;DR Its a holiday to have fun making or getting costumes, and taking it easy with candy.
Breadlord, you might not like it, but that doesn't mean everyone has to stop celebrating. Worry about yourself.
Sounds like someone is insecure of their inner-child.
I still Trick-or-Treat and I'm 18.
Besides, celebrating Halloween is the introduction to fall. Seeing pumpkins and the changing of the leaves with the premature darkness is awesome. Having that bone-chilling aurora breathing down your neck is amazing.
If you want to be boring, stay at home.
Also, Badgerz has good points.
I for one like all the seasonal atmosphere. The parties and pies and such. Its pretty much my 2nd favorite holiday.
Oh I stay at home but it's hardly boring. I'll have my own little sexy parties without all you kiddies. Pretty sure it would be illegal to invite you anyway.
People have their own traditions during Halloween.
You have the kid-tradition, where kids go out and trick-or-treat.
You have the family-tradition, where the family sits around and eats pumpkin-flavored stuff while carving pumpkins.
You have the teenage-tradition, to stay at home and watch freaky **** or go out and prank people.
You have the more adult-tradition, where you go out and party with Halloween-themed stuff, like costume parties.
Then you have the adult-tradition, where they complain about kids' fun because they can't get it up anymore.
Actually, it is a celebration of all hallows day, which was some religious thing a long long time ago. And I like the free candy, and getting to sit in a box, then jump out and scare people. Plus it's fun decorate. So I support it.
And I wouldn't be able to dress up as Zero without getting shot to bits by a Knightmare Frame.
You're as bad as the religious freaks.
Pretty much this.
It gets a result.
As they are now, they no longer (to most people) celebrate what they originally did. Thanksgiving is about eating and being a glutton and celebrating that rather than.. actually come to think of it I'm not really sure what it "celebrated" before that, since it was really just a precursor to infecting the native population with smallpox. Christmas is about celebrating materialism, not the birth of christ, unless you are some sort of super orthodox christian, then you might remember what it is "really" about, in which case you might even celebrate it on the more accurate date. Easter is about pink rabbits shitting chocolate eggs into brightly coloured plastic baskets and painting chicken eggs, and not about the resurrection of Christ. Halloween is about gutting bright-orange gourds and carving pictures into them, typically faces, and not as a celebration of the fall harvest- which it is based on.
Very few holidays as celebrated today are either celebrated in the same fashion they were many years ago nor do they seem to celebrate the same thing; The celebrations are no longer in sync with that which they celebrate.
That isn't really the point; though, particularly in relevance to christian holidays, which were pretty much "made up" (insomuch as their dates are concerned, at least) to replace non-christian traditional holidays that were celebrated. It's easier to replace the 'purpose' than it was to replace the method. And around that it was necessary to weave even more fictions involving fat men bearing gifts and flying reindeer and chocolate shitting pink rabbits, And the secular nature of those celebrations allowed it to permeate into other cultures, at least in part.
Many holidays are pointless. if you don't like that, don't celebrate them. No harm no foul. I don't celebrate... well, any holiday at all (I do observe Rememberance day though, for sure). I don't even celebrate my own birthday, but I don't go around grumping about how other people celebrate holidays or their birthdays or anything. I just don't care.
So what if some holidays have become, or some people perceive that those holidays have been usurped for corporate interest and selling products? I don't buy it. I don't make purchases. It's not my money being spent on it, so I don't care.
You don't have to subscribe to the commercialization to celebrate the holiday. How often do you and your wife just go for a stroll and watch the sunset together? You could use the holiday as an excuse to get out and just be with each other, while escaping from the tedium of everyday life. The themes of the holidays give them more interest. If there were a generic celebration every month, it wouldn't feel as special. It would be like going to church on Sundays. Since the point of a holiday is to offer a break from the tedium of everyday life, it helps to have a silly gimmick.
It's fun to dress strangely. Halloween is a holiday that releases us from the tedium of our wardrobe. Thanksgiving releases us from the tedium of our diets. Christmas is a time to be with relatives who you may not see very often. So in a way it releases us from the tedium of who we see on a daily basis. Holidays such as Independence Day and Canada Day offer release from tedium in the form of blowing **** up. Who doesn't like to watch colorful explosions? Valentine's Day, as I mentioned, is a time to break away from the tedium of everyday life and be with the one you love. St. Patrick's Day is an excuse to break from tedium and drink beer. Cinco de Mayo is an excuse to break from tedium and drink cerveza.
Each has a unique purpose and theme to make it more interesting and more of a break from tedium than a generic monthly holiday would be. After a few monthly holidays, the holiday would no longer be a break from tedium. It would itself be tedious. The irregular spacing between holidays adds to the interest. Each time of year is different and has different celebrations at different intervals. When the weather is nasty, people need more excuses to celebrate. In the Summer people have enough fun things to do, so not as many holidays are necessary.
If you want to celebrate the first of every month, go right ahead. If your employer is very understanding, you might even get the day off. But irregular, silly, themed holidays have mass appeal because they're irregular, silly, and themed.
Walk the streets at night in search of offerings from the towns folk. Chance of getting shot or killed.
Stay at home and drink. Chance of waking up on the roof.
I think I will stay home and drink.
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Halloween has no true purpose, but it's the perfect time for kids to have fun dressing up. If it really bothers you, throw the candy at the children instead of handing it to them; trust me, it's much more fun that way...
Also, Valentine's Day is legit.
Valentine's day may be legit, but a lot of people are forever alone.
I agree. I don't care what other people do either. I haven't ordered anyone to do anything. All I've done is share an opinion, one that you apparently agree with. If the two of us, seemingly rational individuals, feel this way why not share our wisdom with others?
I love Halloween, not for the candy, nor the costumes, but the atmosphere and decorations and the seasonal treats (pumpkin pie and such). I love the season of Halloween, and I love love love decorating for Halloween. I love the History of the holiday very much! I love that incense goes on sale, I love the colour palette of the Holiday(and the season). I love the creatures associated with Halloween, I love carving pumpkins, I love... well almost everything about it!
I feel it would be a terrible shame to see the loss of such a magnificent holiday. If I am allowed only one holiday to celebrate it is Halloween.
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Raise your flag!
I still Trick-or-Treat and I'm 18.
Besides, celebrating Halloween is the introduction to fall. Seeing pumpkins and the changing of the leaves with the premature darkness is awesome. Having that bone-chilling aurora breathing down your neck is amazing.
If you want to be boring, stay at home.
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Oh I stay at home but it's hardly boring. I'll have my own little sexy parties without all you kiddies. Pretty sure it would be illegal to invite you anyway.
TL;DR Its a holiday to have fun making or getting costumes, and taking it easy with candy.
Breadlord, you might not like it, but that doesn't mean everyone has to stop celebrating. Worry about yourself.
Also, Badgerz has good points.
I for one like all the seasonal atmosphere. The parties and pies and such. Its pretty much my 2nd favorite holiday.
People have their own traditions during Halloween.
You have the kid-tradition, where kids go out and trick-or-treat.
You have the family-tradition, where the family sits around and eats pumpkin-flavored stuff while carving pumpkins.
You have the teenage-tradition, to stay at home and watch freaky **** or go out and prank people.
You have the more adult-tradition, where you go out and party with Halloween-themed stuff, like costume parties.
Then you have the adult-tradition, where they complain about kids' fun because they can't get it up anymore.
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