Read whats killing them.
That's not American forces killing civilians.
It is Improvised Explosive Devices, which the US uses specialized vehicles to destroy (not place) on the streets, Car Bombs, and suicide bombers, all of which are terrorist operations.
Thanks for the link, whoever posted it first.
That's 88 people of 100k+
Some interesting parts from Wikipedia:
The term terrorism has been characterized as unacceptably vague. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime stated that there is lack of agreement on a definition of terrorism and that has proven to be an obstacle to meaningful international countermeasures. It proceeds to declare that "Some have often commented that one state's 'terrorist' is another state's 'freedom fighter'". Governments in Iran, Lebanon, and Venezuela consistently use the term "terrorism" to describe actions taken by the United States.[114] The use of state terrorism by the US and the inherent hypocrisy of the term have been commented upon by Americans as well, including 3 star general William Odom, formerly President Reagan's NSA Director, who wrote:
"As many critics have pointed out, terrorism is not an enemy. It is a tactic. Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today's war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world. A prudent American president would end the present policy of "sustained hysteria" over potential terrorist attacks..treat terrorism as a serious but not a strategic problem, encourage Americans to regain their confidence, and refuse to let al Qaeda keep us in a state of fright."[115][116]
Further criticism maintains that the War on Terror provides a framework for perpetual war; the announcement of such open-ended goals produces a state of endless conflict, since "terrorist groups" can continue to arise indefinitely.[117] George W. Bush pledged that the War on Terror "will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated".[118] During a July 2007 visit to the United States, newly appointed British Prime Minister Gordon Brown defined the War on Terror, specifically the element involving conflict with Al Qaeda, as "a generational battle".[119]
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Aftermath of the 9/11 attacks; American infantry in Afghanistan; An American soldier and Afghan interpreter in Zabul Province, Afghanistan; Explosion of an Iraqi car bomb
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I have other people's signatures stuck off, so I can't ever seem them. Oh well.
If its true, things like that happen far less than terrorist attacks (which killed 88 civilians, which does include terrorists. The new Sahwa group is listed as civilians), and are usually accidental.
Why do you think there are terrorist attacks? It's because the US creates terrorists with their occupation of Iraq and other Middle East areas.
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It's like a circle-jerk of family values, Christianity and nationalism.
My distant cousin is in iraq and he heard some soldiers talk about that.
I also saw two us soldiers rape a 15 year old girl and kill her family
Source? It was program with iraq footage some army guy took.
You do realize that most soldiers aren't like that... right?
Don't stereotype them because of two things you've heard of.
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I have other people's signatures stuck off, so I can't ever seem them. Oh well.
Out of a sample size of 88, the only candidates that may have been killed by the us were 8 Sahwa members.
Though, going back 8 weeks, I did find that two civilians were killed in an air raid.
I summed up an approximation of the lowest estimated number of civilian deaths by US-led forces from this table
1000
400
230
434
800
596
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3460 in Afghanistan by US-led forces alone. I was mistaken about the 50k (probably confusing it with a minimum total Iraqi civilian deaths from all causes). In Afghanistan alone, there has been an eye for an eye, civilian for civilian (this isn't even counting Iraq and other countries).
I will ask you again. How much innocent blood must be spilled before it's finally an eye for an eye to you?
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I'm pretty sure the Special Air Services are apart of the American arsenal. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Guys, I think we can all agree that the US is the worst country that ever existed. Hitler, Stalin, and Skeletor combined are no where near as evil as the US. NO other country has ever done anything wrong. Nobody. Every other country in the world is just GREAT.
Guys, I think we can all agree that the US is the worst country that ever existed. Hitler, Stalin, and Skeletor combined are no where near as evil as the US. NO other country has ever done anything wrong. Nobody. Every other country in the world is just GREAT.
I'm tempted to say what the heck is wrong with you. I live in America, and I don't see what's so wrong with it. How is America evil? I thought we were the land of the free and the home of the brave not the alone and discarded. So third world countries with death and disease 2 times that of a lot of other countries and they all live in tents because the economy or weather or whatever is bad. You're right, it's just a hell hole over here...
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Why you be a minen' in me mines? If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
I'm tempted to say what the heck is wrong with you. I live in America, and I don't see what's so wrong with it. How is America evil? I thought we were the land of the free and the home of the brave not the alone and discarded. So third world countries with death and disease 2 times that of a lot of other countries and they all live in tents because the economy or weather or whatever is bad. You're right, it's just a hell hole over here...
*Massive facepalm, the likes of which have never been seen in this universe*
Why you be a minen' in me mines? If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
And if you can't tell why I was facepalming, then there's no hope for you.
I can tell why, I kind of suspected, but it was going to happen eventually.
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Why you be a minen' in me mines? If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
I would like to point out some of the best leaders of the world aren't from America. An example is Hitler (what he managed to get done, not in any way saying he was a good person.
We have had our great leaders, but others have had better. We have our flaws. We are not the best country in the world. Deal with it
thank you for this. this is proof that any idiot from the bible belt shouldn't be able to just join the army and shoot at people. I mean listen to the guys in the helicopter, it sounds like voice chat in call of duty for ****s sake.
I would like to point out some of the best leaders of the world aren't from America. An example is Hitler (what he managed to get done, not in any way saying he was a good person.
We have had our great leaders, but others have had better. We have our flaws. We are not the best country in the world. Deal with it
Hitler wasn't even that great of a leader anyway, morally or politically. See discussion here. He was a good public speaker (despite his alleged accent that sounded goofy in Germany), but the rest was kind of luck, especially concerning his surviving his numerous assassinations. He was also only passable as a military figure.
His credit as an evil genius is exaggerated, at least.
I'm tempted to say what the heck is wrong with you. I live in America, and I don't see what's so wrong with it. How is America evil? I thought we were the land of the free and the home of the brave not the alone and discarded. So third world countries with death and disease 2 times that of a lot of other countries and they all live in tents because the economy or weather or whatever is bad. You're right, it's just a hell hole over here...
Bad economy in other countries?
Never mind the 14 trillions dollars of debt you have.
You know, if the government paid it off by one 1 million dollars a year, it'd take over 1000 years to pay back.
Hitler wasn't even that great of a leader anyway, morally or politically. See discussion here. He was a good public speaker (despite his alleged accent that sounded goofy in Germany), but the rest was kind of luck, especially concerning his surviving his numerous assassinations. He was also only passable as a military figure.
His credit as an evil genius is exaggerated, at least.
That's 88 people of 100k+
Some interesting parts from Wikipedia:
Source
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Left to Right,
Left to Right:
Aftermath of the 9/11 attacks; American infantry in Afghanistan; An American soldier and Afghan interpreter in Zabul Province, Afghanistan; Explosion of an Iraqi car bomb
Why do you think there are terrorist attacks? It's because the US creates terrorists with their occupation of Iraq and other Middle East areas.
Out of a sample size of 88, the only candidates that may have been killed by the us were 8 Sahwa members.
Though, going back 8 weeks, I did find that two civilians were killed in an air raid.
You do realize that most soldiers aren't like that... right?
Don't stereotype them because of two things you've heard of.
I summed up an approximation of the lowest estimated number of civilian deaths by US-led forces from this table
1000
400
230
434
800
596
----
3460 in Afghanistan by US-led forces alone. I was mistaken about the 50k (probably confusing it with a minimum total Iraqi civilian deaths from all causes). In Afghanistan alone, there has been an eye for an eye, civilian for civilian (this isn't even counting Iraq and other countries).
I will ask you again. How much innocent blood must be spilled before it's finally an eye for an eye to you?
I will often edit my posts after I have posted them in an attempt to improve their clarity (I value a few high quality posts over several low quality ones; the more lengthy the post, the more time it requires to edit) so you might want to wait for a while if this post is recent and refresh to see if anything has changed before replying to it.
I'm pretty sure the Special Air Services are apart of the American arsenal. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
I'm tempted to say what the heck is wrong with you. I live in America, and I don't see what's so wrong with it. How is America evil? I thought we were the land of the free and the home of the brave not the alone and discarded. So third world countries with death and disease 2 times that of a lot of other countries and they all live in tents because the economy or weather or whatever is bad. You're right, it's just a hell hole over here...
If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
*Massive facepalm, the likes of which have never been seen in this universe*
If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
And if you can't tell why I was facepalming, then there's no hope for you.
I can tell why, I kind of suspected, but it was going to happen eventually.
If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
So, I just wanna make sure: Have you realized yet that my original post was a joke?
We have had our great leaders, but others have had better. We have our flaws. We are not the best country in the world. Deal with it
thank you for this. this is proof that any idiot from the bible belt shouldn't be able to just join the army and shoot at people. I mean listen to the guys in the helicopter, it sounds like voice chat in call of duty for ****s sake.
Hitler wasn't even that great of a leader anyway, morally or politically. See discussion here. He was a good public speaker (despite his alleged accent that sounded goofy in Germany), but the rest was kind of luck, especially concerning his surviving his numerous assassinations. He was also only passable as a military figure.
His credit as an evil genius is exaggerated, at least.
Bad economy in other countries?
Never mind the 14 trillions dollars of debt you have.
You know, if the government paid it off by one 1 million dollars a year, it'd take over 1000 years to pay back.
Hm. Point taken