That's a bit strange. God kills millions, if not billions. Satan is never shown to be doing anything nearly as bad.
Not to question Christian rationality or anything, but I've always thought it strange that people who believe in heaven think dying is a bad thing. :unsure.gif:
We have a similar morality. We are meant to survive, and we do everything to do so. We also seem to do stupid things when we are bored, the same applies to god, only that he goes extreme with it. Just imagine you're a god entity, and you can't do anything else than watch. Of course you would want to spice things up, and nothing satisfies a human more than torturing someone. At least a human that's not as nice.
God appears to just be some guy that was given godhood, then.
IE. Not worth worshiping.
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"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music."
a good example would be how the feudal system in the middle ages was used. you lived your life to gain acces to the afterlife. this was a way to control people.
No they didn't. They used saw blades to cut your hand off if you didn't believe.
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We have a similar morality. We are meant to survive, and we do everything to do so. We also seem to do stupid things when we are bored, the same applies to god, only that he goes extreme with it. Just imagine you're a god entity, and you can't do anything else than watch. Of course you would want to spice things up, and nothing satisfies a human more than torturing someone. At least a human that's not as nice.
God appears to just be some guy that was given godhood, then.
God is eternal, infinite and just, not just some guy who got bored hanging out in the clouds.
How can you be sure? And when he is infinite, he thus must be the universe itself, no?
If a god exists, he must not be infinite, because it would be pointless talking about the whole universe for what it already does.
He may be eternal, but we cannot know that either. We also cannot know if he's really good or bad, or even if he could help us or not. If he's trying to help us, it damn doesn't look like that.
Of course, it wouldn't be some random moron flying around space and time, but some 'chosen one' that got beyond some challenges, but he still is what he is; destructive, unloving and immoral. At least that is how we sometimes see him.
If you play Black & White, you'll get a good understanding of why Yahweh is such an asshole. It's just more fun.
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"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music."
There are biblical references in Black and White? I must've never caught them.
I don't think there are actual references. I was just pointing out that playing a game where you are a god let's you see why being an evil ******* is fun. :smile.gif:
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"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music."
God is eternal, infinite and just, not just some guy who got bored hanging out in the clouds.
And yet he gives people infinite punishment for finite actions? Explain that. How is that in any way just?
And saying he is "eternal and infinite" is called "redundant" they both mean the same thing, and in this context that meaning is useless because there is no reason to take into account any of it. I have no more reason to believe in the christian god than I do in Zeus/Jupiter, Persephone, or Hades/Pluto. This is compounded by the fact that the creed has to be interpreted. This also never made a whole lot of sense to me. "I will tell you what to do using metaphors and similes, both of which are entirely human concepts". If he does exist according to the way christianity believes he does, I feel he has a shitload of explaining to do. Doesn't seem very just for him to send people to hell for what amounts to a mere misunderstanding of one of his divine literary devices. It also seems rather silly that he would allegedly give us the faculty of reason and then profess that we abstain from using that faculty. This is even if you ignore the fact that the books of the bible were written by people, and there really isn't any good reason to believe it is "the word of god" anymore than you can call it the word of Clint Eastwood.
It isn't so much religion itself I have issue with, but rather the followers, and the way they treat followers of other religions. Right now we have Christians on one side of the globe who believe there is a coming rapture, and you have Islam on the other who believe it is their duty to wipe out everybody. Needless to say the fanaticism and polarization eschews any reasonable thought on the matter and therefore no reasonable discourse can possibly fathom what will happen next.
Damn, Poe's Law just slapped me in the face as I read this.
In my own personal Hell, this is being sung by the combined choir of the Smurfs and Alvin and the Chipmunks...
I always thought Hell was other people though. Looks around at teh internetz...
I'm not religious though, but that's one tidbit of information that I find kind of interesting.
Someone pointed that out earlier. Satan just lives in hell, not controlling it.
I have never said I believe in those things, and it's not like you have to believe in something to find it interesting, i.e. - The Greek Mythology.
Not to question Christian rationality or anything, but I've always thought it strange that people who believe in heaven think dying is a bad thing. :unsure.gif:
EDIT: Quoted the wrong person.
IE. Not worth worshiping.
No they didn't. They used saw blades to cut your hand off if you didn't believe.
True, they did use blades to torture people into believing what they wanted.
God is eternal, infinite and just, not just some guy who got bored hanging out in the clouds.
punching sheep like it's 1.6.6
If you play Black & White, you'll get a good understanding of why Yahweh is such an asshole. It's just more fun.
There are biblical references in Black and White? I must've never caught them.
Start at about 6:00
I don't think there are actual references. I was just pointing out that playing a game where you are a god let's you see why being an evil ******* is fun. :smile.gif:
And yet he gives people infinite punishment for finite actions? Explain that. How is that in any way just?
And saying he is "eternal and infinite" is called "redundant" they both mean the same thing, and in this context that meaning is useless because there is no reason to take into account any of it. I have no more reason to believe in the christian god than I do in Zeus/Jupiter, Persephone, or Hades/Pluto. This is compounded by the fact that the creed has to be interpreted. This also never made a whole lot of sense to me. "I will tell you what to do using metaphors and similes, both of which are entirely human concepts". If he does exist according to the way christianity believes he does, I feel he has a shitload of explaining to do. Doesn't seem very just for him to send people to hell for what amounts to a mere misunderstanding of one of his divine literary devices. It also seems rather silly that he would allegedly give us the faculty of reason and then profess that we abstain from using that faculty. This is even if you ignore the fact that the books of the bible were written by people, and there really isn't any good reason to believe it is "the word of god" anymore than you can call it the word of Clint Eastwood.
It isn't so much religion itself I have issue with, but rather the followers, and the way they treat followers of other religions. Right now we have Christians on one side of the globe who believe there is a coming rapture, and you have Islam on the other who believe it is their duty to wipe out everybody. Needless to say the fanaticism and polarization eschews any reasonable thought on the matter and therefore no reasonable discourse can possibly fathom what will happen next.
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