The real question is what is causing the proposed fall of children. If a reasonable source can't be traced, it's going to be difficult to prove and prevent it.
The real question is what is causing the proposed fall of children. If a reasonable source can't be traced, it's going to be difficult to prove and prevent it.
Parents are becoming too soft is what my theory is. I hear about kids who swear at their parents all the time, and on top of it, look at those obese kids. They didn't just get obese for no reason, they got obese because their parents buy them whatever they want. Now I'm not saying parents need to lay down the law on everything, but they need to tighten up and not let their kids be the boss of them. "Mommy get me Black Ops!" "No hunny, that's too violent." "MOMMY GET MY BLACK OPS NOW!" "NO!" "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!- and so on-" "Fine.. get in the car.."
At our schools, we learn the 'guy parts' in 5th grade and the 'girl parts' in 6th grade, or vice versa for the girls. He has some friends with pottymouths though.. I swear around my friends, I listen to music that swears, I watch TV shows that swear, but the problem with little kids doing the same is that they don't know what to do with that information. They hear swear words, they repeat them and they become cool and say it, but they don't control when they say it. I hear them, I don't say them, I just listen to them. Like I said, yes I swear around my friends, I don't think there's one teen whos never cussed around their friends; but I don't swear around parents or adults, I know when it can and when it can't be used, small kids do not. It's ridiculous.
I go to a Catholic school, and here we got the basics in eighth grade and then all of it in ninth grade, intended as review. However, the school currently starts it in at least sixth grade, and maybe earlier. I'm guessing that's because of state regulations, but I don't know. As for swearing, I didn't start hearing it until seventh grade, but now I hear it from 2nd graders.
For example, on my bus one day there were very few people riding because of sports. I usually sit in the back because I'm the oldest and I can, but since no one else was really riding I sat up farther and alone. What I heard, though, was positively disgusting. One of the kindergarteners who rode admitted he was bi and that he likes to grab other kid's balls and his mom's breasts when she picks him up. Then he got together with a a few first and second graders with a notebook and they started drawing porn in it. I happened to see it when I looked back because I kept hearing giggling and comments like, "We're not perverted, we're creative!" that they were saying to each other. Being quite puritanical, you can imagine my reaction.
Something tells me you're talking about all of the post-season 3 episodes of spongebob.. if you do, then I agree, I mean, he gets his freaking skin torn off in EVERY EPISODE!
Don't even get me started about that time him and squidward tried to move that table *vomits*.
I go to a Catholic school, and here we got the basics in eighth grade and then all of it in ninth grade, intended as review. However, the school currently starts it in at least sixth grade, and maybe earlier. I'm guessing that's because of state regulations, but I don't know. As for swearing, I didn't start hearing it until seventh grade, but now I hear it from 2nd graders.
For example, on my bus one day there were very few people riding because of sports. I usually sit in the back because I'm the oldest and I can, but since no one else was really riding I sat up farther and alone. What I heard, though, was positively disgusting. One of the kindergarteners who rode admitted he was bi and that he likes to grab other kid's balls and his mom's breasts when she picks him up. Then he got together with a a few first and second graders with a notebook and they started drawing porn in it. I happened to see it when I looked back because I kept hearing giggling and comments like, "We're not perverted, we're creative!" that they were saying to each other. Being quite puritanical, you can imagine my reaction.
Oh yeah, we learn the basic 'puberty' stuff in 5th and 6th grade, then we have to take health at least once in middle school and highschool. (middle= 7th 8th 9th, high 10th-12th) And I started hearing swearing in maybe 5th grade, but it was rare, I think 6th or 7th grade was one of the first years where it became more common. So yeah it's strange to see such little kids saying such stuff. And WTF?? That's messed up for a few reasons
1.) Kindergarteners *should* be all "eww girls have cooties"
2.) Why is he grabbing other kids? I don't even think I knew what..those parts.. were when I was so young.
3.) The mom part is nasty (incest...)
4.) They were drawing it?? Wow... that's sad..
5.) That is just disgusting, I don't even think I'd ever be saying that stuff no matter my age...
Parents are becoming too soft is what my theory is. I hear about kids who swear at their parents all the time, and on top of it, look at those obese kids. They didn't just get obese for no reason, they got obese because their parents buy them whatever they want. Now I'm not saying parents need to lay down the law on everything, but they need to tighten up and not let their kids be the boss of them. "Mommy get me Black Ops!" "No hunny, that's too violent." "MOMMY GET MY BLACK OPS NOW!" "NO!" "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!- and so on-" "Fine.. get in the car.."
Where the general whole of parents being too soft came from is still not usually presented, though, and we still have a fringe theory if that isn't explained.
Oh yeah, we learn the basic 'puberty' stuff in 5th and 6th grade, then we have to take health at least once in middle school and highschool. (middle= 7th 8th 9th, high 10th-12th) And I started hearing swearing in maybe 5th grade, but it was rare, I think 6th or 7th grade was one of the first years where it became more common. So yeah it's strange to see such little kids saying such stuff. And WTF?? That's messed up for a few reasons
1.) Kindergarteners *should* be all "eww girls have cooties"
2.) Why is he grabbing other kids? I don't even think I knew what..those parts.. were when I was so young.
3.) The mom part is nasty (incest...)
4.) They were drawing it?? Wow... that's sad..
5.) That is just disgusting, I don't even think I'd ever be saying that stuff no matter my age...
Yes, but disgusted doesn't even begin to describe how I felt. Also, yeah, we had to learn the stuff all over again in health class tenth grade year. I forgot about that.
One of the kindergarteners who rode admitted he was bi and that he likes to grab other kid's balls and his mom's breasts when she picks him up. Then he got together with a a few first and second graders with a notebook and they started drawing porn in it. I happened to see it when I looked back because I kept hearing giggling and comments like, "We're not perverted, we're creative!" that they were saying to each other. Being quite puritanical, you can imagine my reaction.
Wha..wha..wha..wha.. WHAT?!!?
Let's see what we've got here..
1) incest.
2) sexual harassment.
3) getting out of the closet at the age of 5.
4) porn directing.
5) THEY ARE NOT EVEN ****ING 10!!
Oh my GOD.. where do you live? This isn't even funny, not nearly. God.. I mean.. I can't believe this is actually real.
Wow.
Someone should really do something about this.
1) incest.
2) sexual harassment.
3) getting out of the closet at the age of 5.
4) porn directing.
5) THEY ARE NOT EVEN ****ING 10!!
Oh my GOD.. where do you live? This isn't even funny, not nearly. God.. I mean.. I can't believe this is actually real.
Wow.
Someone should really do something about this.
Yes, but disgusted doesn't even begin to describe how I felt. Also, yeah, we had to learn the stuff all over again in health class tenth grade year. I forgot about that.
Yeah I can imagine how you must've felt... little kids are corrupt little bastards to say the least, haha.
And I took it in 9th grade, I actually liked that class it was fun/funny with the teacher and it wasn't as awkward as it was when we first learned it, lol. Although I did notice something: When talking about drugs, they very rarely talked about the legal consequences, rather talked about how it gives you bad breath or cancer or something; which is fine to tell us; but they almost made it sound like it's normal and expected from us to start smoking, I thought it was kind of strange. BUT that's a bit off topic so I'm not going to go too far into that haha.
I see some who not only find it humorous, but, believe it or not, enjoyable.
The only thing they see in a game is blood and gore.
An eleven year old I know is obsessed with Blood Rayne 2 because of the amounts of violence.
"Hey, Chowds, what do you think about Mortal Kombat 9?"
"It looks alright. I'm not a big fan of fighting games, though."
"You gotta admit, is does look gory, though. X-Ray moves let you see inside of them and see their bones breaking and guts, too. There's also a stage fatality that makes the guys heart come out onto a spike and you can make their face smash into a train and..."
"•~•"
Parents let their kids have these games because I'd assume they're saying "Alright, as long as you don't copy any of the things they're doing in real life."
My dad was pretty damn strict about it, though. When I was nine, for example. I was only wee tall and my hair wasn't spiky or blue yet. "Daddy can I get this video game? It's called Th-"
"What's it rated?"
"10+."
"You're too young for it."
"Aw."
"I'll buy it for you now, but you can only use it after your next birthday..."
"Alright..."
On to paragraph two.
A seven year old-ish child I met has a cell phone. He told me his grandmother gave it to him and he texts whatever friends he has.
I'm certain most of you have already experienced this, but I'll bring it up anyway, several kids play games they're obviously too young for. I'm sure someone has encountered a younger fellow playing Call of Duty or something along the lines of that.
Yeah, but I think less exposure is better, because the exposure itself causes that. More or less exposure isn't really the problem, it's what they're being exposed to.
I was exposed to super mario 64, majora's mask, N64 games, they're not overly gorey, but they're still fun as hell, we went around talking about the stars we have or how we jumped on a koopa kid or something. These kids are exposed to COD, Halo, etc. They go around talking about headshots and knifing and stuff. I mean, they're M for a reason, so it's the parents fault for letting them play it. Sure I play M games, but most kids can handle M games in their teens anyway (MOST..) but as for 8 and 9 year olds, no. They think killing is cool and they think it's funny and they learn the wrong things. And, that's just the example for video games, not to mention other things.
Funny story that sort of applies to this.
I just got finished hunting after I got myself a nice deer I had it in the back of my truck under a tarp. I decided to make a quick stop into EB games just to see what there was. Couple of kids probably only ten in there were bragging how they were so good at killing and nothing bothered them.
Their mom was buying them a game so they went out for some reason.
This is where the deer under the tarp comes in. Not sure how many seconds went by but they both came running in crying and saying that there was a dead animal in the back of some guys truck.
(Apparently climbing into the boxes of other people's trucks is acceptable now)
Anyways, the mother starts in on me for ruining her kids innocence and stuff with having a dead animal in the back of my truck.
I simply said.
Humans are animals to. and I walked out.
I went in another day and the worker there told me that she didn't buy her kids the game she was going to which was L4D2 and a few days later she traded in their Xbox and COD for a wii and mario.
Something tells me you're talking about all of the post-season 3 episodes of spongebob.. if you do, then I agree, I mean, he gets his freaking skin torn off in EVERY EPISODE!
Don't even get me started about that time him and squidward tried to move that table *vomits*.
He does? That's really messed up then.. the only one that I can remember skin getting torn off was when Mrs Puff went to jail and the guards walked up and she thought they were spongebob and patrick so she went to pull the masks off and pulled their faces off, lol. Was that past season 3? But I don't think it's spongebob. Kids used to watch Tom N' Jerry (I did as well) and most kids seem normal, and Tom N' Jerry had way more violence.
He does? That's really messed up then.. the only one that I can remember skin getting torn off was when Mrs Puff went to jail and the guards walked up and she thought they were spongebob and patrick so she went to pull the masks off and pulled their faces off, lol. Was that past season 3? But I don't think it's spongebob. Kids used to watch Tom N' Jerry (I did as well) and most kids seem normal, and Tom N' Jerry had way more violence.
"Sorry, about, the scabies"
That was on a cake in Spongebob! Not inherently wrong, but we know a good contributor to scabies infections...
I just got finished hunting after I got myself a nice deer I had it in the back of my truck under a tarp. I decided to make a quick stop into EB games just to see what there was. Couple of kids probably only ten in there were bragging how they were so good at killing and nothing bothered them.
Their mom was buying them a game so they went out for some reason.
This is where the deer under the tarp comes in. Not sure how many seconds went by but they both came running in crying and saying that there was a dead animal in the back of some guys truck.
(Apparently climbing into the boxes of other people's trucks is acceptable now)
Anyways, the mother starts in on me for ruining her kids innocence and stuff with having a dead animal in the back of my truck.
I simply said.
Humans are animals to. and I walked out.
I went in another day and the worker there told me that she didn't buy her kids the game she was going to which was L4D2 and a few days later she traded in their Xbox and COD for a wii and mario.
Haha, that's an amazing story good sir. I applaud you for that :biggrin.gif:
You just destroyed that lady and the little kids by pulling up, and saying 4 words. Bravo :biggrin.gif:
Hey, now it's true that most of that generation is screwed, but sometime you just see an innocent little kids that brings your hope up again, don't lose all your faith yet.
Also, I rather have ALL of this generation only care about blood and gore if they don't do the things catmando said in his post.
So, really, kids liking blood and gore isn't that bad, it's mildly irritating when you think how worse things could be and are actually.
Parents are becoming too soft is what my theory is. I hear about kids who swear at their parents all the time, and on top of it, look at those obese kids. They didn't just get obese for no reason, they got obese because their parents buy them whatever they want. Now I'm not saying parents need to lay down the law on everything, but they need to tighten up and not let their kids be the boss of them. "Mommy get me Black Ops!" "No hunny, that's too violent." "MOMMY GET MY BLACK OPS NOW!" "NO!" "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!- and so on-" "Fine.. get in the car.."
I go to a Catholic school, and here we got the basics in eighth grade and then all of it in ninth grade, intended as review. However, the school currently starts it in at least sixth grade, and maybe earlier. I'm guessing that's because of state regulations, but I don't know. As for swearing, I didn't start hearing it until seventh grade, but now I hear it from 2nd graders.
For example, on my bus one day there were very few people riding because of sports. I usually sit in the back because I'm the oldest and I can, but since no one else was really riding I sat up farther and alone. What I heard, though, was positively disgusting. One of the kindergarteners who rode admitted he was bi and that he likes to grab other kid's balls and his mom's breasts when she picks him up. Then he got together with a a few first and second graders with a notebook and they started drawing porn in it. I happened to see it when I looked back because I kept hearing giggling and comments like, "We're not perverted, we're creative!" that they were saying to each other. Being quite puritanical, you can imagine my reaction.
You heard that, green and red.
Don't even get me started about that time him and squidward tried to move that table *vomits*.
Oh yeah, we learn the basic 'puberty' stuff in 5th and 6th grade, then we have to take health at least once in middle school and highschool. (middle= 7th 8th 9th, high 10th-12th) And I started hearing swearing in maybe 5th grade, but it was rare, I think 6th or 7th grade was one of the first years where it became more common. So yeah it's strange to see such little kids saying such stuff. And WTF?? That's messed up for a few reasons
1.) Kindergarteners *should* be all "eww girls have cooties"
2.) Why is he grabbing other kids? I don't even think I knew what..those parts.. were when I was so young.
3.) The mom part is nasty (incest...)
4.) They were drawing it?? Wow... that's sad..
5.) That is just disgusting, I don't even think I'd ever be saying that stuff no matter my age...
Shhh KingPorky. What happens in pony related threads stay in pony related threads, let's not start another argument.
Where the general whole of parents being too soft came from is still not usually presented, though, and we still have a fringe theory if that isn't explained.
Yes, but disgusted doesn't even begin to describe how I felt. Also, yeah, we had to learn the stuff all over again in health class tenth grade year. I forgot about that.
You heard that, green and red.
Wha..wha..wha..wha.. WHAT?!!?
Let's see what we've got here..
1) incest.
2) sexual harassment.
3) getting out of the closet at the age of 5.
4) porn directing.
5) THEY ARE NOT EVEN ****ING 10!!
Oh my GOD.. where do you live? This isn't even funny, not nearly. God.. I mean.. I can't believe this is actually real.
Wow.
Someone should really do something about this.
That's what I was ****ing thinking.
You heard that, green and red.
Yeah I can imagine how you must've felt... little kids are corrupt little bastards to say the least, haha.
And I took it in 9th grade, I actually liked that class it was fun/funny with the teacher and it wasn't as awkward as it was when we first learned it, lol. Although I did notice something: When talking about drugs, they very rarely talked about the legal consequences, rather talked about how it gives you bad breath or cancer or something; which is fine to tell us; but they almost made it sound like it's normal and expected from us to start smoking, I thought it was kind of strange. BUT that's a bit off topic so I'm not going to go too far into that haha.
The only thing they see in a game is blood and gore.
An eleven year old I know is obsessed with Blood Rayne 2 because of the amounts of violence.
"Hey, Chowds, what do you think about Mortal Kombat 9?"
"It looks alright. I'm not a big fan of fighting games, though."
"You gotta admit, is does look gory, though. X-Ray moves let you see inside of them and see their bones breaking and guts, too. There's also a stage fatality that makes the guys heart come out onto a spike and you can make their face smash into a train and..."
"•~•"
Parents let their kids have these games because I'd assume they're saying "Alright, as long as you don't copy any of the things they're doing in real life."
My dad was pretty damn strict about it, though. When I was nine, for example. I was only wee tall and my hair wasn't spiky or blue yet. "Daddy can I get this video game? It's called Th-"
"What's it rated?"
"10+."
"You're too young for it."
"Aw."
"I'll buy it for you now, but you can only use it after your next birthday..."
"Alright..."
On to paragraph two.
A seven year old-ish child I met has a cell phone. He told me his grandmother gave it to him and he texts whatever friends he has.
I'm certain most of you have already experienced this, but I'll bring it up anyway, several kids play games they're obviously too young for. I'm sure someone has encountered a younger fellow playing Call of Duty or something along the lines of that.
TL;DR: This generation is screwed.
Funny story that sort of applies to this.
I just got finished hunting after I got myself a nice deer I had it in the back of my truck under a tarp. I decided to make a quick stop into EB games just to see what there was. Couple of kids probably only ten in there were bragging how they were so good at killing and nothing bothered them.
Their mom was buying them a game so they went out for some reason.
This is where the deer under the tarp comes in. Not sure how many seconds went by but they both came running in crying and saying that there was a dead animal in the back of some guys truck.
(Apparently climbing into the boxes of other people's trucks is acceptable now)
Anyways, the mother starts in on me for ruining her kids innocence and stuff with having a dead animal in the back of my truck.
I simply said.
Humans are animals to. and I walked out.
I went in another day and the worker there told me that she didn't buy her kids the game she was going to which was L4D2 and a few days later she traded in their Xbox and COD for a wii and mario.
He does? That's really messed up then.. the only one that I can remember skin getting torn off was when Mrs Puff went to jail and the guards walked up and she thought they were spongebob and patrick so she went to pull the masks off and pulled their faces off, lol. Was that past season 3? But I don't think it's spongebob. Kids used to watch Tom N' Jerry (I did as well) and most kids seem normal, and Tom N' Jerry had way more violence.
Well, let's just remember that the vase didn't break itself, if you know what I mean :tongue.gif:
"Sorry, about, the scabies"
That was on a cake in Spongebob! Not inherently wrong, but we know a good contributor to scabies infections...
Haha, that's an amazing story good sir. I applaud you for that :biggrin.gif:
You just destroyed that lady and the little kids by pulling up, and saying 4 words. Bravo :biggrin.gif:
Hey, now it's true that most of that generation is screwed, but sometime you just see an innocent little kids that brings your hope up again, don't lose all your faith yet.
Also, I rather have ALL of this generation only care about blood and gore if they don't do the things catmando said in his post.
So, really, kids liking blood and gore isn't that bad, it's mildly irritating when you think how worse things could be and are actually.
Nope.
Please don't post there though, I'm happy with that thread being dead.
Haha, I just hate when people say TL;DR I decided to throw that in their faces. I'll add that in :tongue.gif: