Oh, don't call that humanism. Humanism is the opposite of what you just described!
I'd point you to the wiki article on Humanism, but it's ill-informed and misleading, like most of the philosophy articles there. =(
This should be fine, if it doesn't put people to sleep....
P.S. I renounce my claim that this is the Modern Age. I forgot that there already was one of those. :tongue.gif: I can't think of a good name, though, that doesn't just mean new or current or something ******** like that.
Every time I turn around, something new and "revolutionary" has just come out, and I'm all like
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know.
I thought Humanism was putting ones self above God?
Hrm, that's sort of a theme of the Enlightenment... in a way. I mean, putting one's self above God isn't really an established movement. The Enlightenment began as a rejection of the Monarchy which was legitimized by the Catholic church. So, it quickly grew to reject orthodoxy with heredity. Remember when I said the modern era began around 1640? Well, that's about the time of the Protestant Reformation which was characteristic of Enlightenment thought.
Humanism came out of the Enlightenment and didn't begin to really flourish until the 18th and 19th centuries. This predates the serious conflict between the Enlightenment and religion as such. It was really Darwin which marked the last separation between even Protestantism and Enlightenment thought (starting about 1850). That period is sometimes called the "late modern" (1850-1900).
It's a mistake to view Modernism, Humanism, or the Enlightenment as anything but deeply religious, though (with few exceptions, most notably David Hume). The late modern period is where that begins, and post-modernism is where that first began to truly flourish. If "putting ones self above God" appears anywhere, it appears around the 1950's or 1960's. Even then, it's not really large enough to be considered a movement like Humanism.
Most of what you people are explaining in "the selfish age" or stuff like that isn't anything new. People don't realize that human nature has been around as long as humans, but the reason we don't hear about it happening before now is because people didn't write books about that ******* across the street. We don't even do that now.
Humanity was comprised of idiots before, is now, and will be for the foreseeable future.
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My reason is that we are so intrigued by the news nowadays, and television, and "Reality television", that we lost our perception on real life.
Post your idea of what kind of Age we are in, though please explain.
I think the problem is that the ability to share information leads to people doing so. That would be fine, if people had quality information to share. They dont. Also would be better if people questioned "why" instead of "why not." People accept what people with power say, before considering whether its valid to do so. If this is the age of information, its rather disappointing. I want massive information spreading to be accompanied by brutal truncating of inaccurate information.
An age where charisma is rendered ineffective against facts would be nice. Drives me nuts to see people side with colorful words rather than facts.
Post Industrial Age. At least here in America. Different societies would be in different categories. The Post Industrial Age is kind of hurting the USA right now. We're exporting most of our natural resources (including our recyclable garbage) to countries like China. It's almost as if we're financially bleeding ourselves dry. I'd ask why corporations would adopt such terrible policies but they're international... so they'll just follow the money.
Post Industrial Age. At least here in America. Different societies would be in different categories. The Post Industrial Age is kind of hurting the USA right now. We're exporting most of our natural resources (including our recyclable garbage) to countries like China. It's almost as if we're financially bleeding ourselves dry. I'd ask why corporations would adopt such terrible policies but they're international... so they'll just follow the money.
This is another one to add to "Digital Age" and "Information Age" which I've heard a lot. Thought technically this refers to the state of a nation rather than an age (as though ages apply to the whole world).
Hrm, that's sort of a theme of the Enlightenment... in a way. I mean, putting one's self above God isn't really an established movement. The Enlightenment began as a rejection of the Monarchy which was legitimized by the Catholic church. So, it quickly grew to reject orthodoxy with heredity. Remember when I said the modern era began around 1640? Well, that's about the time of the Protestant Reformation which was characteristic of Enlightenment thought.
Humanism came out of the Enlightenment and didn't begin to really flourish until the 18th and 19th centuries. This predates the serious conflict between the Enlightenment and religion as such. It was really Darwin which marked the last separation between even Protestantism and Enlightenment thought (starting about 1850). That period is sometimes called the "late modern" (1850-1900).
It's a mistake to view Modernism, Humanism, or the Enlightenment as anything but deeply religious, though (with few exceptions, most notably David Hume). The late modern period is where that begins, and post-modernism is where that first began to truly flourish. If "putting ones self above God" appears anywhere, it appears around the 1950's or 1960's. Even then, it's not really large enough to be considered a movement like Humanism.
That's an odd perspective. Most of the history classes I've been in say it started during the Renaissance, not the Enlightenment.
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That's lazy. We've always had science, since we tried to understand things. Since we started doing things. Chimpanzees have science when they shove a stick into an anthill.
This should be fine, if it doesn't put people to sleep....
P.S. I renounce my claim that this is the Modern Age. I forgot that there already was one of those. :tongue.gif: I can't think of a good name, though, that doesn't just mean new or current or something ******** like that.
You heard that, green and red.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know.
I thought Humanism was putting ones self above God?
Every time I turn around, something new and "revolutionary" has just come out, and I'm all like
I'm quite the shady customer.
Hrm, that's sort of a theme of the Enlightenment... in a way. I mean, putting one's self above God isn't really an established movement. The Enlightenment began as a rejection of the Monarchy which was legitimized by the Catholic church. So, it quickly grew to reject orthodoxy with heredity. Remember when I said the modern era began around 1640? Well, that's about the time of the Protestant Reformation which was characteristic of Enlightenment thought.
Humanism came out of the Enlightenment and didn't begin to really flourish until the 18th and 19th centuries. This predates the serious conflict between the Enlightenment and religion as such. It was really Darwin which marked the last separation between even Protestantism and Enlightenment thought (starting about 1850). That period is sometimes called the "late modern" (1850-1900).
It's a mistake to view Modernism, Humanism, or the Enlightenment as anything but deeply religious, though (with few exceptions, most notably David Hume). The late modern period is where that begins, and post-modernism is where that first began to truly flourish. If "putting ones self above God" appears anywhere, it appears around the 1950's or 1960's. Even then, it's not really large enough to be considered a movement like Humanism.
Humanity was comprised of idiots before, is now, and will be for the foreseeable future.
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I think the problem is that the ability to share information leads to people doing so. That would be fine, if people had quality information to share. They dont. Also would be better if people questioned "why" instead of "why not." People accept what people with power say, before considering whether its valid to do so. If this is the age of information, its rather disappointing. I want massive information spreading to be accompanied by brutal truncating of inaccurate information.
An age where charisma is rendered ineffective against facts would be nice. Drives me nuts to see people side with colorful words rather than facts.
This is another one to add to "Digital Age" and "Information Age" which I've heard a lot. Thought technically this refers to the state of a nation rather than an age (as though ages apply to the whole world).
The strength is there, we just don't have the ability to produce a long enough cable yet.
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That's an odd perspective. Most of the history classes I've been in say it started during the Renaissance, not the Enlightenment.
You heard that, green and red.
Seriously, they're everywhere nowadays.
And when was it ever much better?
You heard that, green and red.
That's lazy. We've always had science, since we tried to understand things. Since we started doing things. Chimpanzees have science when they shove a stick into an anthill.
I think the Renaissance and Enlightenment happened at the same time, the former in art and the later in philosophy/science.
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