"Heaven" will be whatever you want to be. You think Heaven will have all your dead relatives? Bamm, it does. You think Heaven will just be a giant orgy of sex?
No, that sounds pretty damn awful. If heaven was a dream, then the people you see in your dream wouldn't really exist. They would be the way you alone see that person, while they're stuck in their own little dream. Someone you really like, your parents or wife or best friend; you will see them as perfect. No one is perfect. It's all the little flaws in a person that make them different, that make them human. In your dream they won't have a free will, they only exist for your own ends. The people in your dream will only be puppets, and nothing more. For me, at least, that sounds more like hell.
You won't see them as perfect, you'll see them as whatever you want. You don't want them to be perfect, than they wont. Whenever I dream, all my friends still have their personalities and stuff. I'm talking about your pre-determined conception of Heaven before you actually die. Whatever you imagine Heaven to be; that same mental image that revolves around in your brain whenever someone says "Heaven," will be the thing that plays out when you die. If you imagine Heaven will just be like real life, but you live forever, all your family is there, Jesus is chilling by a fountain, than that is what you'll dream. Or not. Hell, I don't know, these are just my own personal opinions. I am sure this sounds so jumbled, I'm trying to connect all these trains of thoughts I have about the subject into one small post. I'll make a thread specifically for this topic later. I dont want to derail OP's thread.
You won't see them as perfect, you'll see them as whatever you want.
Exactly, you shouldn't see them as anything, they should be what they are.
/not bothering with /quote
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I believe that dreaming is just the minds way of keeping active. An active brain is a healthy brain! There is no meaning, or supernatural elements to it.
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Well, there are some people trying to research into the possibilities of real visions in dreams.
You know, the stories of people who had dreams of their family dying, or of a plane crash, or some disaster, or something happening, and then they wake up to find it is true.
For example, remember last year when the Polish president died in a plane crash? I was dreaming about being in a plane crash that same night. And when I woke up to read how the plane was crashing, it was the same as in my dream.
I'm not even religious, and I think there might be some scientific evidence that perhaps atoms from an event can go into your brain and provide information.
I had a dream like that once... it was weird, because it was so simple.
At my parents' house, they have this, drop-off ledge thing, separating the living room from the entrance way. Well, I dreamt my father tripped over it. Then I woke up, and that EXACT event took place. He tripped on the same spot, he tripped in the same way, he made the same noise... everything was the same.
I've had to throw that one into my pile of "unexaplainable events".
In any case... dreams are nothing but our brains activating portions of our brain while other parts are turned off.
I've done some research into cognition (for AI research), and I believe that sleep is actually when our brains rearrange our neurons... or more correctly, when it rearranges the data in our neurons to be more optimal.
The more sleep you get, the better you can think. This is consistent with my theory of neuron rearrangement.
As well, if this hypothesis is true, then that means that your dreams is your brain activating pieces of memory that it is rearranging. So, my hypothesis also explains why you "don't remember your dreams" when you wake up - unless you intentionally try to put them into memory during your "awaking" state.
Also, I'll point out that atoms don't carry that sort of information. It's not possible to atoms, or energy, to "put thoughts into your brain", in the way you describe.
Here's a quote I read. I don't know where the original came from, but here it is:
"There are an infinite number of universes. Thus all books are non-fiction."
What it means is that there is no end to time and space, so there is something before our 13 billion year old universe and something afterwards. Also there's something outside of our universe.
Twilight Sparkle is a real pony. Minecraft is a real place. Creepers exist. Nazi Germany won the war. Your mother and father never met. The sperm that made you lost at 2nd place. Dreams just show you a factual universe, somewhere out there.
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About the dream-the-future thing, I definitely believe there's something. I've also had those, but it took a couple of years to come true (exact copies, not vague ******** like Nostradamus).
Dear god I hope not.
I have terrible nightmares about inhuman creatures and monsters made of mist. I've never been able to lucid dream, because I can never tell when I'm in a dream. Mine are too realistic.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if SOME dreams can predict the future.
I've had deja vu from, what I know was a dream, many times.
You won't see them as perfect, you'll see them as whatever you want.
Exactly, you shouldn't see them as anything, they should be what they are.
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I do see my friends as what they are when I dream. I don't know about you, but if I know an asshole in real life, than he is also an asshole if he happens to be in my dream.
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I dont dream anymore
My imagination died out a while ago
Yeah you do.
Yea, you just dont remember. Just think about what you just dreamed about right when you wake up, before you start moving or anything. Usually helps me.
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"...But don’t worry, you’re not alone, there are many men like you left in the world, and some of them even used to be your friends. After all, this is America, and we only kill our friends." - Immortal Technique
I think dreams are a way of accessing information that you know, but you just aren't aware that you really know it at all. I dream about science, so that's why I think that. You may have a different opinion though.
I really don't buy it. Although there is still quite a bit we can't pinpoint, we still know too much about dreaming and its processes for it to be some magical thing. Not to mention the claims in the OP are just supported by "it looks like this," no offence.
You won't see them as perfect, you'll see them as whatever you want.
Exactly, you shouldn't see them as anything, they should be what they are.
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The framing of this circle on the ground
Brings whirlwinds, tempests, thunder and lightning.
*there may or may not be cake
I had a dream like that once... it was weird, because it was so simple.
At my parents' house, they have this, drop-off ledge thing, separating the living room from the entrance way. Well, I dreamt my father tripped over it. Then I woke up, and that EXACT event took place. He tripped on the same spot, he tripped in the same way, he made the same noise... everything was the same.
I've had to throw that one into my pile of "unexaplainable events".
In any case... dreams are nothing but our brains activating portions of our brain while other parts are turned off.
I've done some research into cognition (for AI research), and I believe that sleep is actually when our brains rearrange our neurons... or more correctly, when it rearranges the data in our neurons to be more optimal.
The more sleep you get, the better you can think. This is consistent with my theory of neuron rearrangement.
As well, if this hypothesis is true, then that means that your dreams is your brain activating pieces of memory that it is rearranging. So, my hypothesis also explains why you "don't remember your dreams" when you wake up - unless you intentionally try to put them into memory during your "awaking" state.
Also, I'll point out that atoms don't carry that sort of information. It's not possible to atoms, or energy, to "put thoughts into your brain", in the way you describe.
Well, my theory of the universe entails of this:
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"There are an infinite number of universes. Thus all books are non-fiction."
What it means is that there is no end to time and space, so there is something before our 13 billion year old universe and something afterwards. Also there's something outside of our universe.
Twilight Sparkle is a real pony. Minecraft is a real place. Creepers exist. Nazi Germany won the war. Your mother and father never met. The sperm that made you lost at 2nd place. Dreams just show you a factual universe, somewhere out there.
--
About the dream-the-future thing, I definitely believe there's something. I've also had those, but it took a couple of years to come true (exact copies, not vague ******** like Nostradamus).
I have terrible nightmares about inhuman creatures and monsters made of mist. I've never been able to lucid dream, because I can never tell when I'm in a dream. Mine are too realistic.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if SOME dreams can predict the future.
I've had deja vu from, what I know was a dream, many times.
I do see my friends as what they are when I dream. I don't know about you, but if I know an asshole in real life, than he is also an asshole if he happens to be in my dream.
This is stoner talk, my friend.
My imagination died out a while ago
Yeah you do.
Yea, you just dont remember. Just think about what you just dreamed about right when you wake up, before you start moving or anything. Usually helps me.
No I dont, while I sleep all I see is darkness