Yeah, but that takes such a long time. It makes me sad sometimes that people can be so intolerant, I just wish there was some way to get through to them. But I guess we don't call them bigots for nothing.
I know! we just "shove them into the deep end" so to speak, we surround them with gays until it becomes normal to them! quick! go gay up the Washington DC until it becomes everyday to the congressmen!
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I completely agree.
I had a talk with a guy about this. He was saying how I was still young and that it may all be psychological so if I wanted it enough I could go back to women, but I don't see why I should. I know I like men so why should I even bother with girls whom I have no attraction to?
The only choice im making is to do the stuff that feels right to me.
well you are still young and have a lifetime to change from one thing to the other, you may switch back one day. life is complicated and "nothing is constant but death and taxes" (thats how that phrase goes, right?), people, and positions are always subject to change. you can still change just as hetero men can change as well.
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Yeah, but that takes such a long time. It makes me sad sometimes that people can be so intolerant, I just wish there was some way to get through to them. But I guess we don't call them bigots for nothing.
I know! we just "shove them into the deep end" so to speak, we surround them with gays until it becomes normal to them! quick! go gay up the Washington DC until it becomes everyday to the congressmen!
That's exactly right. Keep raising awareness until it becomes just another thing. Have you seen the Michael Moore gay bus video? I'm not really a Moore fan, but this video is pretty great. .
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I have a 'phobia' of gays, I dunno what it is, I just don't trust them, don't like them, they just freak me out. Though, that might just be me.
P.S. To the weirdos;No I didn't get touched by a gay person as a child...
EDIT:To clarify, I feel weird when around them, it's like being around a tough-looking guy, you feel like he'll punch you out.
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I have a 'phobia' of gays, I dunno what it is, I just don't trust them, don't like them, they just freak me out. Though, that might just be me.
P.S. To the weirdos;No I didn't get touched by a gay person as a child...
EDIT:To clarify, I feel weird when around them, it's like being around a tough-looking guy, you feel like he'll punch you out.
I'm not going to rape you if thats what you think
That might be what it sounds like, again, it's like a 'phobia' something I grew up with...and I'm probably sounding like an asshole, so I'm going to stop talking.
Supportive:
1: People should be treated fairly, and kindly
2: It would encourage gays to be together, which makes it less likely the gay gene will be transferred to others (no offense) :/
unsupportive:
1: Well, its gay marriage and isnt natural. the more gay marriages there are, the less straight ones there are.
2: Can cause more seperation from eachother, meaning if we support gay marriage, gays will be creating a new 'faction' that will be long-lasting/permanent.
Overall i conclude: if we support it i assume the gay gene will be less common, sooo
im going with supportive. so long as they dont gay-flame me im fine. (as a sidenote, this gay kid stalks me around during school. That ******* wont stop >:L
Now, I'm not saying anything, but.... I don't think he ever directly said that gays are "bad' or "wrong". In-fact, I think he said he supports gay marriage. Of course, I could be totally wrong.
1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right
3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
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1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right 3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
What's wrong with an increase of gay people? More options for you.
1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right 3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
I can understand the concern for the aging of the population and less births, but is it really that bad?
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1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right 3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
What's wrong with an increase of gay people? More options for you.
How so?
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1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right 3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
What's wrong with an increase of gay people? More options for you.
How so?
More gay people = less women without men = more girls for you = Profit!
Unless you account for lesbians, but there are slightly more gay men than women.
1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right 3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
What's wrong with an increase of gay people? More options for you.
How so?
Yes, How so? I'm straight, I'd rather not be surrounded by gays and not able to find another straight person.
I voted no. I refuse to elaborate on this, as I've had...bad experiences...when elaborating on it in the past.
I have my reasons, they're not going to change, and they're not going to do anything but start flame wars (and no, they are not ridiculously vitriolic and extremist).
I'm straight, I'd rather not be surrounded by gays and not able to find another straight person.
That's a hilariously ignorant fear. Increased social acceptance of homosexuality isn't going to significantly affect the ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals. You'd probably see a jump in the number of bisexuals but that isn't going to prevent you from finding a female willing to accept your junk.
I'm straight, I'd rather not be surrounded by gays and not able to find another straight person.
That's a hilariously ignorant fear. Increased social acceptance of homosexuality isn't going to significantly affect the ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals. You'd probably see a jump in the number of bisexuals but that isn't going to prevent you from finding a female willing to accept your junk.
See, if you read my posts above, you understand that I just have a child-born fear of gays. You can't exactly judge me
from that, It's just something I grew up with. If you judge me because of it, then that's just stupid. You can't judge call someone a wimp because they're scared of spiders.
I'm straight, I'd rather not be surrounded by gays and not able to find another straight person.
That's a hilariously ignorant fear. Increased social acceptance of homosexuality isn't going to significantly affect the ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals. You'd probably see a jump in the number of bisexuals but that isn't going to prevent you from finding a female willing to accept your junk.
See, if you read my posts above, you understand that I just have a child-born fear of gays. You can't exactly judge me
from that, It's just something I grew up with. If you judge me because of it, then that's just stupid. You can't judge call someone a wimp because they're scared of spiders.
Just because you have rationalized your fear and accept it doesn't mean it is actually justified. Irrational fear is irrational.
So are you pretty much saying that I can't have a fear of gays? I'm not going to let you try to force your idea onto mine...
No I'm saying that you can be afraid of gays but bitching about it isn't justified. If you actually tried to overcome your fear you'd be fine. But instead of trying to overcome your homophobia you're just avoiding all gays. Which is funny because not all gays are obvious in their sexuality. If you were friends with someone but found out that they're gay... would you just stop talking to them?
Because it is. Legalizing gay marriage won't poof everyone around you gay. That is both irrational and ignorant. Ignorant because it requires a gross misunderstanding of sexuality. Irrational because there is no reason to think people will turn gay because of a law.
I know! we just "shove them into the deep end" so to speak, we surround them with gays until it becomes normal to them! quick! go gay up the Washington DC until it becomes everyday to the congressmen!
well you are still young and have a lifetime to change from one thing to the other, you may switch back one day. life is complicated and "nothing is constant but death and taxes" (thats how that phrase goes, right?), people, and positions are always subject to change. you can still change just as hetero men can change as well.
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That's exactly right. Keep raising awareness until it becomes just another thing. Have you seen the Michael Moore gay bus video? I'm not really a Moore fan, but this video is pretty great. .
P.S. To the weirdos;No I didn't get touched by a gay person as a child...
EDIT:To clarify, I feel weird when around them, it's like being around a tough-looking guy, you feel like he'll punch you out.
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That might be what it sounds like, again, it's like a 'phobia' something I grew up with...and I'm probably sounding like an asshole, so I'm going to stop talking.
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Now, I'm not saying anything, but.... I don't think he ever directly said that gays are "bad' or "wrong". In-fact, I think he said he supports gay marriage. Of course, I could be totally wrong.
1. Many churches will feel uncomfortable with legalization of gay marriage
2. With the legalization of gay marriage, more hate speech will spread around, and those who hate gays for no good reason will most likely do what they believe is right
3. With the acceptance of gay marriage, more people will turn and be raised gay
What's wrong with an increase of gay people? More options for you.
I can understand the concern for the aging of the population and less births, but is it really that bad?
Do not wallow do not stall
Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
Than time lost to all.
How so?
More gay people = less women without men = more girls for you = Profit!
Unless you account for lesbians, but there are slightly more gay men than women.
Yes, How so? I'm straight, I'd rather not be surrounded by gays and not able to find another straight person.
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I have my reasons, they're not going to change, and they're not going to do anything but start flame wars (and no, they are not ridiculously vitriolic and extremist).
That's a hilariously ignorant fear. Increased social acceptance of homosexuality isn't going to significantly affect the ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals. You'd probably see a jump in the number of bisexuals but that isn't going to prevent you from finding a female willing to accept your junk.
See, if you read my posts above, you understand that I just have a child-born fear of gays. You can't exactly judge me
from that, It's just something I grew up with. If you judge me because of it, then that's just stupid. You can't judge call someone a wimp because they're scared of spiders.
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Just because you have rationalized your fear and accept it doesn't mean it is actually justified. Irrational fear is irrational.
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I know what he's saying, but in his post before that, he was saying that it's ignorant. I don't get how that's Ignorant. I just can't help my fear.
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No I'm saying that you can be afraid of gays but bitching about it isn't justified. If you actually tried to overcome your fear you'd be fine. But instead of trying to overcome your homophobia you're just avoiding all gays. Which is funny because not all gays are obvious in their sexuality. If you were friends with someone but found out that they're gay... would you just stop talking to them?