I know for a fact that I can personally very easily determine a difference between dreams and the state of being awake. In no way would I ever say that it was hard to determine as such, when fully awake.
Can you do it every time? Do you do it every time you have a dream? Are you sure it's not only just the dreams that you specifically remember that this applies to? A lot of dreams are extremely mundane and brief not lasting long enough to give you a chance to make this determination or even create a well-formed memory of the fact that it was a dream. Nevertheless dreams like this are more than capable of influencing your memories. I don't doubt that a lot of the time you can tell the difference and do, but I do doubt that you recognize every dream you have.
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I know for a fact that I can personally very easily determine a difference between dreams and the state of being awake. In no way would I ever say that it was hard to determine as such, when fully awake.
Can you do it every time? Do you do it every time you have a dream? Are you sure it's not only just the dreams that you specifically remember that this applies to? A lot of dreams are extremely mundane and brief not lasting long enough to give you a chance to make this determination or even create a well-formed memory of the fact that it was a dream. Nevertheless dreams like this are more than capable of influencing your memories. I don't doubt that a lot of the time you can tell the difference and do, but I do doubt that you recognize every dream you have.
For most people, dreaming takes place while sleeping. Which usually takes place in a bed. Am I using your logic now?
I'm sorry, but you're trying to dissprove something that you've never experienced and thus have no bearing on. I'm not saying you can't have your doubts, but you're trying to shove everyone into the same group of easily-explainable-bumps-phenonema.
I'm sorry, but you're trying to dissprove something that you've never experienced
Never experienced? When I was young I used to stare at my bedroom window and if I gave it a menacing glare an evil face would fly out of it and yell at me and scare the living crap out of me. I did it all the time, it always worked. At least I remember it always working. I also have memories of when I was about 9-10 of waking up in the middle of the night unable to breathe and waking up my parents who would rub my back until I could breathe again.
And you know what? None of these things ever happened. Ever. I know the window thing wasn't real because I shared a room with my brother at the time and he never saw these things. I asked my parents about the breathing thing: also never happened. I can't explain either of them. Did I dream them? Are the memories themselves representative of an actual experience, or do I just remember them wrong? I don't know, but I'm damn sure it wasn't ghosts or magic. The simplest explanation is simply that my brain isn't perfect because it's not. It's living tissue that's easily fooled by illusions and distractions and whose perceptions are easily influenced by my expectations.
Don't pull this 'never experienced' ******** out unless you're actually certain it's true. In any case it isn't relevant, either. Your memories are not an infallible representation of reality.
but you're trying to shove everyone into the same group of easily-explainable-bumps-phenonema.
That's because it is explainable. That's the whole point of me giving explanations. To show that these things aren't 'unexplainable' as so many claim. They are explainable: brains suck as recording devices.
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When I was a kid, I saw evil faces in trees and bushes and any type of foliage. I don't anymore. I'm not talking about stuff that I experienced as a kid, I'm talking about things that happen now. I can't speak for your experiences because I never experienced anything like that, but it doesn't mean that I'm going to call it some type of '********' or something like that.
I also am not going to get into the subject of memories. Mainly because I don't know much on the subject scientifically, but also because I'm pretty certain that I did hang out with my friend last weekend and I didn't imagine it all. You can't just dismiss everything wierd and unexplainable as a fallacy of the human mind. That's just silly.
Not everything is explainable. The sooner you realize that, the better. We're not meant to know everything. It's just impossible.
Can't tell if this is a troll of an honest answer.
Either way, quite a stereotype you made there.
Well, not really. Go to YouTube or anything and search for what their opinion about atheism and gay marriage is. And I still think that Paranormal things have to do with God as well. Therefor, if there would be a God, there should be ghosts too.
You can't just dismiss everything wierd and unexplainable as a fallacy of the human mind. That's just silly.
Dismissing things because there's no evidence is only rational. We have very little reasons to believe in anything paranormal, but plenty of reasons to believe in brain failures. We know for a fact that the brain is capable of all sorts of hallucinations.
The problem is that people are too damn sure of their infallibility that they don't even want to admit that they are capable of hallucinating.
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Not everything is explainable. The sooner you realize that, the better. We're not meant to know everything. It's just impossible.
Thank goodness scientists don't think like that.
Well. Without science we wouldn't have any technology at all at this point. And people with thoughts that scientific matter might mislead people in believe of God are actually slowing down our society by pulling down the techonlogy scale. We need scientists to survive somehow. Curing diseases, finding problems, upgrade our living cult and expand our knowledge about outer space and evolution.
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I thing this is not a real story but this is a imaginary story.If you think that this is a real story then i would like to say that you should to a doctor for treatment.
What story? There's no story.
It's more debating that actual story telling, right here.
If you believe in spirits, ghosts and similar - you are out of control and need to see a doctor.
If you believe in afterlife in heaven and God - you are a completely sane person with a big heart.
Notice that most of the people who have been able to think rationally and explain any "paranormal experiences" as either dreams, hallucinations, an over-active imagination, false memories, or other similar things, speak of things that happened in their childhood, that they believed to be supernatural at the time? I think that the people who still swear by similar experiences as being extraordinary, and not either embellished or created by their mind, must be stuck with the brain of a child.
Notice that most of the people who have been able to think rationally and explain any "paranormal experiences" as either dreams, hallucinations, an over-active imagination, false memories, or other similar things, speak of things that happened in their childhood, that they believed to be supernatural at the time? I think that the people who still swear by similar experiences as being extraordinary, and not either embellished or created by their mind, must be stuck with the brain of a child.
Yeah, that might be correct. It seem to be some sort of pattern in the manner of these stories, somewhat.
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I've had a few paranormal experiences. I think I stated one in this topic, but I'm not sure. I'll just tell you guys again.
I was in my bunk bed, awake. I had been in bed for an hour. I think I have mild insomnia, it usually takes me a little while to fall asleep. The rest of my family was elsewhere in the house. The person closest to my room was my younger brother, and even then, he was three rooms away.
I was lying awake in bed when I heard breathing under the bed. Just like that. A heavy breathing sound from under the bed. I almost freaked out, but I didn't. I peered down under to see if my brother had somehow snuck into my room. Nope. Nobody was in my room, yet I had heard someone breathing.
How is that possible.
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I always find it unsurprising how no one ever seems to have proof of their experiences (though sometimes they do, which is nice to see). It always seems that paranormal stuff happens in dark or creepy places, usually at nighttime, and there are, as far as I've heard, no experiences of the paranormal when there are large groups of people around or it's daytime, and people who seem to believe in the stuff either already believed in the stuff beforehand or have a religious background. All of this stuff always has a correlation attributed to it that it's angels or demons/mythological stuff and the old, boring dichotomy of good/evil is also applied.
Given, that's not always the case, but that's what I've seen is usually the case. Those ghost shows are always disappointing, people freaking out over shadows and random noises which are easily explainable... Come on, if this stuff is real, someone should get it on video - something awesome like furniture flying all over the place inside of a room in High-Definition (Funny how all those videos/pictures of ghosts are always blurry when by now we should be quite capable of recording everything with pixel-perfect detail) would be pretty good.
In any case the stories are fun to read, whether they be true or not. Who am I to say what you claimed to have seen didn't really happen?
I've had a few paranormal experiences. I think I stated one in this topic, but I'm not sure. I'll just tell you guys again.
I was in my bunk bed, awake. I had been in bed for an hour. I think I have mild insomnia, it usually takes me a little while to fall asleep. The rest of my family was elsewhere in the house. The person closest to my room was my younger brother, and even then, he was three rooms away.
I was lying awake in bed when I heard breathing under the bed. Just like that. A heavy breathing sound from under the bed. I almost freaked out, but I didn't. I peered down under to see if my brother had somehow snuck into my room. Nope. Nobody was in my room, yet I had heard someone breathing.
How is that possible.
Key players are that you imagined it, or that it wasn't breathing. Being in bed, being tired, being in the dark, you are more likely to hear and see things that aren't really there. The other big possibility is that you did hear something but, unable to recognise the sound, your mind told you that it was breathing, when in fact, it was something else.
Key players are that you imagined it, or that it wasn't breathing. Being in bed, being tired, being in the dark, you are more likely to hear and see things that aren't really there. The other big possibility is that you did hear something but, unable to recognise the sound, your mind told you that it was breathing, when in fact, it was something else.
Yeah, maybe it was breath.ogg.
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The iteration of these lines brings gold;
The framing of this circle on the ground
Brings whirlwinds, tempests, thunder and lightning.
Key players are that you imagined it, or that it wasn't breathing. Being in bed, being tired, being in the dark, you are more likely to hear and see things that aren't really there. The other big possibility is that you did hear something but, unable to recognise the sound, your mind told you that it was breathing, when in fact, it was something else.
I know for a fact that I can personally very easily determine a difference between dreams and the state of being awake. In no way would I ever say that it was hard to determine as such, when fully awake.
Can you do it every time? Do you do it every time you have a dream? Are you sure it's not only just the dreams that you specifically remember that this applies to? A lot of dreams are extremely mundane and brief not lasting long enough to give you a chance to make this determination or even create a well-formed memory of the fact that it was a dream. Nevertheless dreams like this are more than capable of influencing your memories. I don't doubt that a lot of the time you can tell the difference and do, but I do doubt that you recognize every dream you have.
Actually, yes, I can do it every time. I can always fully determine definitively between reality and dreams when I am fully awake.
There are sometimes when I 'just wake up' that I mix dream and reality, but after I awake fully I understand the differences.
Dreams have no bearing on my reality.
I have never once had a memory that was influenced, or even fully created, from a dream.
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I'm sorry, but you're trying to dissprove something that you've never experienced
Never experienced? When I was young I used to stare at my bedroom window and if I gave it a menacing glare an evil face would fly out of it and yell at me and scare the living crap out of me. I did it all the time, it always worked. At least I remember it always working. I also have memories of when I was about 9-10 of waking up in the middle of the night unable to breathe and waking up my parents who would rub my back until I could breathe again.
And you know what? None of these things ever happened. Ever. I know the window thing wasn't real because I shared a room with my brother at the time and he never saw these things. I asked my parents about the breathing thing: also never happened. I can't explain either of them. Did I dream them? Are the memories themselves representative of an actual experience, or do I just remember them wrong? I don't know, but I'm damn sure it wasn't ghosts or magic. The simplest explanation is simply that my brain isn't perfect because it's not. It's living tissue that's easily fooled by illusions and distractions and whose perceptions are easily influenced by my expectations.
Don't pull this 'never experienced' ******** out unless you're actually certain it's true. In any case it isn't relevant, either. Your memories are not an infallible representation of reality.
but you're trying to shove everyone into the same group of easily-explainable-bumps-phenonema.
That's because it is explainable. That's the whole point of me giving explanations. To show that these things aren't 'unexplainable' as so many claim. They are explainable: brains suck as recording devices.
As for your 'memories' when did these things occur? Age has a lot to do with how memories are impacted. If you were very young your memories may have been influenced through dreams or your imagination, and you might remember these things and then realize they weren't real.
However, if you were at an age old enough to understand the differences between dreams and reality, to make that distinction, then your memories should not have been impacted like that. But I can't determine or analyze your memories simply because I didn't experience them. I would never attempt to analyze someone else's experiences.
The age at which that happens usually occurs pretty young. But I'm sure it can vary... in any case, I think it's safe to say that typically it is before becoming a teenager.
And I agree that our brains are not perfect, there are many illusions that can be created within the brain and science has even found many of these and abused them for fun.
As well, as time passes our memories are altered by our brains. This is true. Our memories usually do not accurately reflect actual events.
However, I can say for sure that I have experienced events that I can not explain, and that I truly do not believe were 'dreams'. During these events I believe I was at an age to diffientiate between reality and dreams, and I was fully awake. Likewise, I remember these events as clearly happening beyond my understanding of the world, and while my memories may be altered somewhat, I have enough accuracy to determine that I still can not explain them.
And finally, while it's true some weird circumstance may have led my brain to create these events as 'illusions', that would still not fully explain the events as to why when and where they occurred, and why they stopped.
I am not someone who jumps to conclusions like "it's a ghost!". I'm very much a skeptic of anything new. I am more easier to believe that things can be fully explained through some processes, whether it be 'tricks of the mind', or etc. Or some other means.
But I can definitely say that I have had experiences in my past that I can not accurately explain... These events and trying to explain them have even led me to question my beliefs hundreds, if not thousands of times.
All I can really say is.... I can't explain it.... And I know they were not dreams.
I have never once had a memory that was influenced, or even fully created, from a dream.
I'm definitely not buying this. There's no way you could possibly know this, since an influenced memory would be indistinguishable from an uninfluenced one. Like I mentioned, dreams can be completely mundane, the influence could be as small as creating a memory of eating a normal breakfast.
Just like the paranormal crowd you're claiming infallibility of the mind and that's ********.
And I know they were not dreams.
I believe you, dreams aren't the only explanation. They are just *an* explanation.
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Can you do it every time? Do you do it every time you have a dream? Are you sure it's not only just the dreams that you specifically remember that this applies to? A lot of dreams are extremely mundane and brief not lasting long enough to give you a chance to make this determination or even create a well-formed memory of the fact that it was a dream. Nevertheless dreams like this are more than capable of influencing your memories. I don't doubt that a lot of the time you can tell the difference and do, but I do doubt that you recognize every dream you have.
For most people, dreaming takes place while sleeping. Which usually takes place in a bed. Am I using your logic now?
I'm sorry, but you're trying to dissprove something that you've never experienced and thus have no bearing on. I'm not saying you can't have your doubts, but you're trying to shove everyone into the same group of easily-explainable-bumps-phenonema.
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Never experienced? When I was young I used to stare at my bedroom window and if I gave it a menacing glare an evil face would fly out of it and yell at me and scare the living crap out of me. I did it all the time, it always worked. At least I remember it always working. I also have memories of when I was about 9-10 of waking up in the middle of the night unable to breathe and waking up my parents who would rub my back until I could breathe again.
And you know what? None of these things ever happened. Ever. I know the window thing wasn't real because I shared a room with my brother at the time and he never saw these things. I asked my parents about the breathing thing: also never happened. I can't explain either of them. Did I dream them? Are the memories themselves representative of an actual experience, or do I just remember them wrong? I don't know, but I'm damn sure it wasn't ghosts or magic. The simplest explanation is simply that my brain isn't perfect because it's not. It's living tissue that's easily fooled by illusions and distractions and whose perceptions are easily influenced by my expectations.
Don't pull this 'never experienced' ******** out unless you're actually certain it's true. In any case it isn't relevant, either. Your memories are not an infallible representation of reality.
That's because it is explainable. That's the whole point of me giving explanations. To show that these things aren't 'unexplainable' as so many claim. They are explainable: brains suck as recording devices.
But it doesn't follow the scientific method, or any comparably rigorous, sound set of guidelines. How is it science?
I also am not going to get into the subject of memories. Mainly because I don't know much on the subject scientifically, but also because I'm pretty certain that I did hang out with my friend last weekend and I didn't imagine it all. You can't just dismiss everything wierd and unexplainable as a fallacy of the human mind. That's just silly.
Not everything is explainable. The sooner you realize that, the better. We're not meant to know everything. It's just impossible.
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Well, not really. Go to YouTube or anything and search for what their opinion about atheism and gay marriage is. And I still think that Paranormal things have to do with God as well. Therefor, if there would be a God, there should be ghosts too.
Well. Without science we wouldn't have any technology at all at this point. And people with thoughts that scientific matter might mislead people in believe of God are actually slowing down our society by pulling down the techonlogy scale. We need scientists to survive somehow. Curing diseases, finding problems, upgrade our living cult and expand our knowledge about outer space and evolution.
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What story? There's no story.
It's more debating that actual story telling, right here.
If you believe in spirits, ghosts and similar - you are out of control and need to see a doctor.
If you believe in afterlife in heaven and God - you are a completely sane person with a big heart.
Yeah, that might be correct. It seem to be some sort of pattern in the manner of these stories, somewhat.
My friend showed us some pics and videos on the internet he made us watch lost tapes mothman so we started believing in it,so we planed a roadtrip we got a camera a pistol(incase its vicious)and tents to take and.....I CAN'T ****ING WAIT!!!!!!!!!
zombies eat
homes protect you
creepers destroy it ALL
I was in my bunk bed, awake. I had been in bed for an hour. I think I have mild insomnia, it usually takes me a little while to fall asleep. The rest of my family was elsewhere in the house. The person closest to my room was my younger brother, and even then, he was three rooms away.
I was lying awake in bed when I heard breathing under the bed. Just like that. A heavy breathing sound from under the bed. I almost freaked out, but I didn't. I peered down under to see if my brother had somehow snuck into my room. Nope. Nobody was in my room, yet I had heard someone breathing.
How is that possible.
The framing of this circle on the ground
Brings whirlwinds, tempests, thunder and lightning.
Given, that's not always the case, but that's what I've seen is usually the case. Those ghost shows are always disappointing, people freaking out over shadows and random noises which are easily explainable... Come on, if this stuff is real, someone should get it on video - something awesome like furniture flying all over the place inside of a room in High-Definition (Funny how all those videos/pictures of ghosts are always blurry when by now we should be quite capable of recording everything with pixel-perfect detail) would be pretty good.
In any case the stories are fun to read, whether they be true or not. Who am I to say what you claimed to have seen didn't really happen?
Key players are that you imagined it, or that it wasn't breathing. Being in bed, being tired, being in the dark, you are more likely to hear and see things that aren't really there. The other big possibility is that you did hear something but, unable to recognise the sound, your mind told you that it was breathing, when in fact, it was something else.
Yeah, maybe it was breath.ogg.
The framing of this circle on the ground
Brings whirlwinds, tempests, thunder and lightning.
Actually, yes, I can do it every time. I can always fully determine definitively between reality and dreams when I am fully awake.
There are sometimes when I 'just wake up' that I mix dream and reality, but after I awake fully I understand the differences.
Dreams have no bearing on my reality.
I have never once had a memory that was influenced, or even fully created, from a dream.
As for your 'memories' when did these things occur? Age has a lot to do with how memories are impacted. If you were very young your memories may have been influenced through dreams or your imagination, and you might remember these things and then realize they weren't real.
However, if you were at an age old enough to understand the differences between dreams and reality, to make that distinction, then your memories should not have been impacted like that. But I can't determine or analyze your memories simply because I didn't experience them. I would never attempt to analyze someone else's experiences.
The age at which that happens usually occurs pretty young. But I'm sure it can vary... in any case, I think it's safe to say that typically it is before becoming a teenager.
And I agree that our brains are not perfect, there are many illusions that can be created within the brain and science has even found many of these and abused them for fun.
As well, as time passes our memories are altered by our brains. This is true. Our memories usually do not accurately reflect actual events.
However, I can say for sure that I have experienced events that I can not explain, and that I truly do not believe were 'dreams'. During these events I believe I was at an age to diffientiate between reality and dreams, and I was fully awake. Likewise, I remember these events as clearly happening beyond my understanding of the world, and while my memories may be altered somewhat, I have enough accuracy to determine that I still can not explain them.
And finally, while it's true some weird circumstance may have led my brain to create these events as 'illusions', that would still not fully explain the events as to why when and where they occurred, and why they stopped.
I am not someone who jumps to conclusions like "it's a ghost!". I'm very much a skeptic of anything new. I am more easier to believe that things can be fully explained through some processes, whether it be 'tricks of the mind', or etc. Or some other means.
But I can definitely say that I have had experiences in my past that I can not accurately explain... These events and trying to explain them have even led me to question my beliefs hundreds, if not thousands of times.
All I can really say is.... I can't explain it.... And I know they were not dreams.
I'm not buying it.
I'm definitely not buying this. There's no way you could possibly know this, since an influenced memory would be indistinguishable from an uninfluenced one. Like I mentioned, dreams can be completely mundane, the influence could be as small as creating a memory of eating a normal breakfast.
Just like the paranormal crowd you're claiming infallibility of the mind and that's ********.
I believe you, dreams aren't the only explanation. They are just *an* explanation.