It won't be communist. It would simply be a war for resources, from which the overwhelming world majority would benefit.
That makes no sense, though. The first world isn't rich because of natural resources or anything like that. If the first world breaks down, then so does the global economy. In what way does such a thing benefit everyone? How would other nations suddenly become more prosperous if that were to happen?
By spreading the US wealth. The US economy takes up almost half of the world's entire economy, and spreading it's wealth would benefit the billions of those who lack clean water, food, shelter sanitation, as well as billions of the 2nd and 3rd world citizens.
Oh, no, never mind. It turns out you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
To begin with, nuclear weapons wouldn't be used by the 2nd and 3rd world. Second, it would be in the interests of the 2nd and 3rd world to lead such an invasion, as every country would benefit from this.
Obviously. They would be used by the first-world country that is in defense, surely you do not think that they will simply allow for foreign invaders a la Huns to simply walk and in, ravage the soil and people dry and continually exploit said resources until the earth spits blood. You're talking of a very serious and flawed military venture; you're expecting the second and third-world to invade the first world and simply, excuse me for this word, rape the **** out of every man, woman and child. You're proposing forced labor and slavery for crying out loud.
Interest of the second and third world? Are you simply talking out of your ass? With their already limited resources, budget, and financial bindings as well as their severe reliance on these countries they're invading they would surely not be by any means willing to partake in such a risky venture, especially with the existence of an abundance of military technology in first world countries. Furthermore, to exploit and enslave people simply for the benefit of other countries is an outrageous act that is worse than the subjugation and creation of puppet states and colonies purely for the interests of the invader. You're talking about a single (or handful) country that would supply the entire world, do you realize the kind of strain and pressure on the internal stability of the country and social life of the populace that would take place as a result of such an action? Your proposition is the most ridiculous, ill-thought, infantile, and superficial of all similar points that I've heard so far; that includes "arguments" of nuking the Middle-East.
Even the Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union have signed a peace pact when it benefited them both.
Brest-Litovsk, and it was broken a while later. That did not take place without having the Soviet Union give up much of its agricultural sector to the Germans. But I do not see your point, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
To begin with the 2ND and 3RD world would invade the US. Second, they don't have to cross the ocean - it doesn't seem like they teach geography well in the US.
Every yellow and red state would have an interest in invading the US.
I hope you realized how stupid what you've just said was.
Do realize the Green parts refer to the "allies" and direct receivers of aid and US support. They would not simply stand by idle and watch as their closest economical ally is simply plundered and turned into a massive colony for other countries. That and they certainly will not rest at ease knowing that they will be next.
Oh and people, do not link this to communism in any way, shape, or form. This is simply a complete atrocity and a childish imagination on the part of StopTheIdiocy.
By spreading the US wealth. The US economy takes up almost half of the world's entire economy, and spreading it's wealth would benefit the billions of those who lack clean water, food, shelter sanitation, as well as billions of the 2nd and 3rd world citizens.
Okay, so it helps the third and second world citizens? But then what about the first world citizens? Do they become the new third world and not receive any of the money, food, etc. that the third and second world countries are getting?
By spreading the US wealth. The US economy takes up almost half of the world's entire economy, and spreading it's wealth would benefit the billions of those who lack clean water, food, shelter sanitation, as well as billions of the 2nd and 3rd world citizens.
Oh yeah, because ransacking a entire country is definitely going to spread the wealth around.
I've reported you for insulting me, which is against the forum rules.
1. Most of the Latin America would be able to get here by just walking. And the rest has boats, airplanes etc. More would be build as the state would launch an economic war plan to build thousands of vehicles needed.
2. They would, because the human nature works like that, and has always worked like that.
3. These 'armed US civilians' are merely millions, while there are billions of armed 2nd and 3rd world citizens.
4. It's efficient. Mexico borders the US, for example.
5. Because I'm not wrong. I can tell by how much you're angry with this plan, as you seem to live in the US.
Okay, let me first start with problem one, actually making a coalition. That's not going to happen. Like I have said previously, many of these nations are multi-ethnic and have a political stage that shifts so drastically and quickly for no apparent reason that only someone who has lived in the constant torrent of shifting racial, ethnic and semi-religious groups could make anything of it.
Now, assuming that you are the most charismatic and verbally endowed person in the world (you may be the least gifted person in both categories I have ever seen) and manage to unite people who have been spilling blood since before the common era, you now must invade the United States.
Latin America alone cannot do this, that I can assure you. As such you must go through the logistical (A word you really should look up and learn because you have no grasp of how much it plays into your "plan") nightmare of transporting said billions to areas in the United States from their current homes in scenic Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa.
Now assuming you are a logistical genius and manage to not only procure enough transportation for these people, and according to you everyone in the third world will join your ranks, you have the problem of the US navy, Airforce, Navy and Coast Guard to deal with. I'd like to point out that you lack aircraft carriers, but assuming you get this far you are the greatest and most perfect person who ever lived ever so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
After dealing with that you now have to overcome the entrenched United States Army and, god help you the Marines and subdue the entirety of the populace because, lets be honest, a forum barely wants to listen to what you say let alone a nation with a strong, albeit misguided sense of freedom.
After that you can give out the free bags of money that we have been hiding from the world all along.
You ignored my post. I said you misunderstood me. I didn't say that all humans are equal in worth. I said that all humans are intrinsically equal in worth.
It's not just the War in Afghanistan. Nobody in America wants to be socialist. You Europeans can keep your socialism and your "free" healthcare. We'll keep our guns and our freedom.
I was eating something at the time I read this. I choked. This is so wonderfully hilarious. I have nothing to add to this thread, because this one post tells me that it really, really isn't worth it.
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As I've already said (and you've already ignored), these countries would have an interest in uniting due to the fact that all of them would benefit from this GREATLY. It would make each of their country's lives better, so they would obviously want to invade the United States together if it benefits them all.
You keep ignoring my argument and throwing useless information which had no relevance with my previous argument whatsoever.
Hello, specificImpulse
Quick question, How would countries with no military invade the US? Do you even know what a 3rd world country is? Did you know that most of the US's goods are (sadly) purchased form many of the 2nd and 3rd world contries?
You ignored my post. I said you misunderstood me. I didn't say that all humans are equal in worth. I said that all humans are intrinsically equal in worth.
No, they're not.
I have to ask... do you know what intrinsically means? Or are you just arbitrarily disagreeing? Or, I suppose, you could just be racist. But who's racist these days?
The simple answer is that 2nd and 3rd world posses a military stronger than that of the United States.
Are you that stupid. 3rd world countries have little or no military. And whats stopping us form bombing them to hell on their way here? The would all get killed before they even get near the US. If you think that a bunch of non-existant militaries can invade and defeat the US, you are an idiot.
As I've already said (and you've already ignored), these countries would have an interest in uniting due to the fact that all of them would benefit from this GREATLY. It would make each of their country's lives better, so they would obviously want to invade the United States together if it benefits them all.
You keep ignoring my argument and throwing useless information which had no relevance with my previous argument whatsoever.
Did you just suggest that centuries of conflict will be forgotten so that they can waste millions of lives in an ill-planned invasion to US soil so that they can get some Twinkies and consumer goods to share with everyone?
And would you care to explain who logistics, planning, and strategy has no relevance to an invasion of a nation?
God you are so pathetic, and in that you are also so hilarious.
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The 2nd and the 3rd world has a far bigger military than the United States. It's a fact.
You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen. What part of 3rd world countries having no military do you not understand? And you also have to remember all of the US's allies. Together we make up most of the worlds military force. And numbers arent everything, you know.
No, they would simply fight together if it benefits them all. That's all. Are you from the United States?
So they would fight to together the way the Native Americans did when the Spaniards came to the new world, the way the Kieven Rus did when the Mongols came to Russia, and how India did when the British invaded?
Because those are all societies that were fractured and failed to unite simply because "everyone would be helped if we did."
You really have a failing grip on reality you know that?
Countries by the number of active troops (the vast majority of them are 3rd and 2nd world):
Keep being an idiot. 3rd world countries usually avoid getting into wars. Thats one of the reasons they are 3rd world countries. They are unalligned. I doubt they would suddenly decide to work together against the Most powerful military force in the world. And you will look like an even bigger idiot when you, once again, say they have more troops then the US. Remember: Number arent everything.
Just because one argument is flawed does not mean your argument still stands.
Your argument was just as flawed.
That's all I've pointed out here.
That makes no sense, though. The first world isn't rich because of natural resources or anything like that. If the first world breaks down, then so does the global economy. In what way does such a thing benefit everyone? How would other nations suddenly become more prosperous if that were to happen?
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Oh, no, never mind. It turns out you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Obviously. They would be used by the first-world country that is in defense, surely you do not think that they will simply allow for foreign invaders a la Huns to simply walk and in, ravage the soil and people dry and continually exploit said resources until the earth spits blood. You're talking of a very serious and flawed military venture; you're expecting the second and third-world to invade the first world and simply, excuse me for this word, rape the **** out of every man, woman and child. You're proposing forced labor and slavery for crying out loud.
Interest of the second and third world? Are you simply talking out of your ass? With their already limited resources, budget, and financial bindings as well as their severe reliance on these countries they're invading they would surely not be by any means willing to partake in such a risky venture, especially with the existence of an abundance of military technology in first world countries. Furthermore, to exploit and enslave people simply for the benefit of other countries is an outrageous act that is worse than the subjugation and creation of puppet states and colonies purely for the interests of the invader. You're talking about a single (or handful) country that would supply the entire world, do you realize the kind of strain and pressure on the internal stability of the country and social life of the populace that would take place as a result of such an action? Your proposition is the most ridiculous, ill-thought, infantile, and superficial of all similar points that I've heard so far; that includes "arguments" of nuking the Middle-East.
Brest-Litovsk, and it was broken a while later. That did not take place without having the Soviet Union give up much of its agricultural sector to the Germans. But I do not see your point, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Do realize the Green parts refer to the "allies" and direct receivers of aid and US support. They would not simply stand by idle and watch as their closest economical ally is simply plundered and turned into a massive colony for other countries. That and they certainly will not rest at ease knowing that they will be next.
Oh and people, do not link this to communism in any way, shape, or form. This is simply a complete atrocity and a childish imagination on the part of StopTheIdiocy.
Okay, so it helps the third and second world citizens? But then what about the first world citizens? Do they become the new third world and not receive any of the money, food, etc. that the third and second world countries are getting?
Oh yeah, because ransacking a entire country is definitely going to spread the wealth around.
Okay, let me first start with problem one, actually making a coalition. That's not going to happen. Like I have said previously, many of these nations are multi-ethnic and have a political stage that shifts so drastically and quickly for no apparent reason that only someone who has lived in the constant torrent of shifting racial, ethnic and semi-religious groups could make anything of it.
Now, assuming that you are the most charismatic and verbally endowed person in the world (you may be the least gifted person in both categories I have ever seen) and manage to unite people who have been spilling blood since before the common era, you now must invade the United States.
Latin America alone cannot do this, that I can assure you. As such you must go through the logistical (A word you really should look up and learn because you have no grasp of how much it plays into your "plan") nightmare of transporting said billions to areas in the United States from their current homes in scenic Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa.
Now assuming you are a logistical genius and manage to not only procure enough transportation for these people, and according to you everyone in the third world will join your ranks, you have the problem of the US navy, Airforce, Navy and Coast Guard to deal with. I'd like to point out that you lack aircraft carriers, but assuming you get this far you are the greatest and most perfect person who ever lived ever so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
After dealing with that you now have to overcome the entrenched United States Army and, god help you the Marines and subdue the entirety of the populace because, lets be honest, a forum barely wants to listen to what you say let alone a nation with a strong, albeit misguided sense of freedom.
After that you can give out the free bags of money that we have been hiding from the world all along.
You are now free to ignore this post.
No, they wouldn't. They'd fight over the new resources and kill each other.
You mean the ones that we buy from those 2nd and 3rd world countries on your map?
So the white people will get punished for something their leaders have done?
You ignored my post. I said you misunderstood me. I didn't say that all humans are equal in worth. I said that all humans are intrinsically equal in worth.
You heard that, green and red.
I was eating something at the time I read this. I choked. This is so wonderfully hilarious. I have nothing to add to this thread, because this one post tells me that it really, really isn't worth it.
The Universe is cool enough without making up crap about it - Phil Plait
Hello, specificImpulse
Quick question, How would countries with no military invade the US? Do you even know what a 3rd world country is? Did you know that most of the US's goods are (sadly) purchased form many of the 2nd and 3rd world contries?
Why not?
You heard that, green and red.
What country are you from?
I have to ask... do you know what intrinsically means? Or are you just arbitrarily disagreeing? Or, I suppose, you could just be racist. But who's racist these days?
Are you that stupid. 3rd world countries have little or no military. And whats stopping us form bombing them to hell on their way here? The would all get killed before they even get near the US. If you think that a bunch of non-existant militaries can invade and defeat the US, you are an idiot.
Did you just suggest that centuries of conflict will be forgotten so that they can waste millions of lives in an ill-planned invasion to US soil so that they can get some Twinkies and consumer goods to share with everyone?
And would you care to explain who logistics, planning, and strategy has no relevance to an invasion of a nation?
God you are so pathetic, and in that you are also so hilarious.
You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen. What part of 3rd world countries having no military do you not understand? And you also have to remember all of the US's allies. Together we make up most of the worlds military force. And numbers arent everything, you know.
So they would fight to together the way the Native Americans did when the Spaniards came to the new world, the way the Kieven Rus did when the Mongols came to Russia, and how India did when the British invaded?
Because those are all societies that were fractured and failed to unite simply because "everyone would be helped if we did."
You really have a failing grip on reality you know that?
Keep being an idiot. 3rd world countries usually avoid getting into wars. Thats one of the reasons they are 3rd world countries. They are unalligned. I doubt they would suddenly decide to work together against the Most powerful military force in the world. And you will look like an even bigger idiot when you, once again, say they have more troops then the US. Remember: Number arent everything.