Now, the sh*tstorm is probably coming but: Fallout 3. I don't have anything for the game itself (its great) but as the part of the Fallout franchise, it sucks. Absolutely sucks. It has almost nothing in common with the F1 or F2, muties were like orcs, Vaults looked nothing like the Vaults, wrong stuff was everywhere. You don't do things like this for the fanboys (yes, me). Name it 'Apocalyptia' or 'Kingdom Come' and you have my vote for a great game. Call it Fallout 3, I say it's a fail and an Oblivion with guns. (btw, who's else with me for the neverending mounring of Van Buren?)
This.
Fallout 3 was a good game to rent, I couldn't bring myself to play through it a second time. Also, it's nothing like the other three (FO1, 2, and Tactics)
Command and Conquer 4.
I'm never buying an EA game again, ****ing bastards.
This^
It was the most disappointing buy I've made in 5 whole years.
Not that I've bought a lot of games, but still, they really ****ed up that game.
Further, I get all the rants about Spore, but really, when have you EVER seen so many communities be so excited over a game? I say everyone got overexcited and were disappointed by the end product, seeing it missed a lot of things like blood trails and a second water stage. I agree to a point, but it was a good game.
MW2 disappointed me. Not game play wise, just... Activision screwing with it's customers wise. And IWnet...
CnC4 ruined my childhood memories. And while we're on EA, BC2 took away LAN.
Spore I'll agree with on all points.
Let's see... for over hyped game-play...
Far Cry 2 devolved into a GTA style of run across the map endlessly and being shot at by checkpoints for no discernible reason other than they hate you and you specifically.
And ARMA2, which I'm going to say, over delivered. It's too realistic. Down to driving 30 minutes around a vast landscape with your objective being "Kill this guy. Good luck." What? Who is this guy? where is he? what does he look like even? And firefight which you can fight through without ever even seeing the bad guys (Which happens in real life, let me tell you...)
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The Sims. Any of them. Keeping those people alive and happy is a pain in the ass; it's barely fun with cheats. Also, their gibberish "voices" are by far the MOST ANNOYING SOUND EVER in a game. I have no idea why those games are so popular.
Also, Spelunky. It bores me, and I hate the controls. I'd much rather play NetHack.
Also, Spelunky. It bores me, and I hate the controls. I'd much rather play NetHack.
You... don't like Spelunky? :cry:
... But the gold... and the spelunking... and the giant piranha... and the city of gold... and the alien space ship... and the shotgun... and the giant head statue that tries to crush you... and the annoying lady whose kisses heal you... and... stuff.
I like the game, but I don't think anyone has ever beaten it all the way through in a single real game, and I'm not sure anyone ever will. There are videos up and everything, but I convince myself that they are hoaxes.
I <3 Spelunky to death. I've never made it farther than the second level of the ice stage. Ever.
For like the 20th time, Spore was over-hyped, not over-rated. Anyone who's worth their weight in salt when it comes to checking for what a good game is knows to check/trust user reviews over pro reviews. I think the GameFAQs user reviews speak for themselves, extremely mixed reviews. Ranging from disgust at the over-hyping it got to, "Eh, it's no second coming but it's no Superman 64," to people giving high scores based on how much it can be customized and played around with in the creator. Really, in my opinion the creator is the only replay factor in the whole thing. Everything else is just meh, the modding community is meh, the music while nice and ambient doesn't really stick out, the sounds are meh, and I don't care for graphics, but I think you get the idea.
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The most disappointing would probably have to be Black and White 2. Don't get me wrong, it's very pretty and I like the new features they added to it, but the lack of skirmish and multiplayer made me sad face. Skirmish (and if it still had multiplayer), is what keeps me playing Black and White 1.
Again, here we have a case of over-hyping. Which is something Peter Molyneux is ridiculously skilled in and most likely accounts for a large percentage of his game sales. I'd have to agree with what you said about most of it being decent, my favorite feature being the creature made probably 20 times more intelligent than he was in BW1. However...I didn't like how you had to "buy" practically everything, and some prices of things were ridiculously high...the Volcano Epic comes to mind. Still though, it wasn't as terribly ridden with bugs like BW1 was, watching your creature throw around armies of people was fun, and it was nice not having to micromanage every single little thing now that you had a creature to help you out more. Plus cities looked a lot nicer with the roads and such. It's a ridiculously large game though, having the expansion adds to the size.
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Every halo game after the first halo.
I'm...gonna have to agree with you on this one. While I enjoyed Halo 2 quite a bit, Halo 3 was...bleh.
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The Sims. Any of them. Keeping those people alive and happy is a pain in the ass; it's barely fun with cheats. Also, their gibberish "voices" are by far the MOST ANNOYING SOUND EVER in a game. I have no idea why those games are so popular.
Did you ever play the second one? I used to think the same exact thing you thought until I played the second one...on PC that is. The second one on consoles is just garbage compared to PC.
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Halo 2 and 3
and they say that it is the best FPS ever... *Coughhalf-life2cough*
You know, I'd say that if you took out Gary's Mod that would be a ridiculous statement. I'm not saying Halo is the best FPS, but honestly...I just thought Half-Life 2 by itself was boring as hell. It seemed like enemy occurrences were rare, the levels were way too large, and once you actually did get somewhere with assloads of enemies the super gravity gun just swept the floor. I'm not saying linearity is good typically, but in my opinion FPS games need to be linear if they aren't Deus Ex. For the record, my favorite FPS would be Perfect Dark. True, the controls for it are incredibly awkward if played on N64, but uh...let's just say a certain something fixed that.
(also Portal is incredibly over rated, but not nearly as much as the most over rated game imo, just a side note because you mentioned a Valve game)
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Any Unreal game. Worst 13 bucks I spent on a steam sale for 5 games. So what if they're the basis for every damn shooter. They have their pros, but it's not for me.
I really hope you aren't including Unreal Tournament games when you say "Unreal" games...otherwise I totally agree.
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Mass Effect 2.
I just never saw the charm in it. How is it good? Why should I care about the characters beyond them being extra boolets and meatshields?
I never played ME2, most likely because I played ME1 and found it incredibly boring. Maybe it's just because I started with Baldur's Gate way back in the day, but the last Bioware game I enjoyed was Jade Empire. It seems like Bioware's formula is starting to become as stale as Pokemon though...the difference here is it took more than one game for it to become stale...a lot more.
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Sonic.
Nah...I'd say that this series is more "rabid fanboy/girlism" than over rated. Even pro reviewers rate the games badly.
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Command and Conquer 4.
I'm never buying an EA game again, ****ing bastards.
Totally raped RA3 as well, and the whole RTS genre really.
tl;dr games are over rated and people misunderstand what over rated means
So...what game do I think is the most over rated game of all time? No, not Halo, not Pokemon, not Final Fantasy (but that's second!) it would have to be the one game that's frustrated and confused me with its popularity ever since I was eight years old, a game that won almost every "GOTY" to my knowledge that year, and a game that's won Best Game of All Time so often that it's quite literally been called Best Game of All Time the highest amount of times*1. What game is it you ask? Why just go on Gamerankings.com, look at best games of all time, tell me which game is number one.
That's right, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Now...old 3D games have a terrible pension for not aging well. In my opinion (as this whole little rant will be) OoT is definitely no exception to this rule. So what precisely prickles my pineapple about this being so highly rated? Allow me to explain.
First of all, the thing that from my experience always makes or breaks the game, the gameplay. The gameplay, while being the tried-and-true Zelda gameplay it is, did not translate very well at all into 3D (on the first attempt at least). I really wonder if anyone who rates this game so highly actually has gone back and played it, if they did I'm sure they'd find that compared to more recent 3D Zelda games the combat seems slow/sluggish and awkward, and I'm sure anyone who has played it and doesn't think that has gotten nostalgia vision laser surgery. Secondly I found myself wandering through Hyrule and it's various catacombs much more often than I did making progress. From my vague recollection I spent maybe 60-70 hours beating this game. Yeah, I know, Zelda has puzzles. But the actual puzzles were way easier than the mysteries this game gave me. Most of the 60-70 hours I spent playing was spent traveling from point A to point B in my quest to figure out where the hell I'm supposed to go, another good portion was spent wondering around dungeons figuring out which area I missed so I can get the Item of Holy Path Revealing. Thirdly we have the bosses, outside of Dark Link, all of these guys were jokes. It's as if Dark Link absorbed all the rage you would've experienced fighting actual hard forms of these bosses and expelled it all upon you when you fought him. Fourth, and this may sound like nitpicking, but to me Hyrule's Field was incredibly devoid of any kind of life. Enemy or friendly. Fifth, the Water Temple. Four words; **** you mother ****er. The way I see it, point number two is enough to label OoT as over rated, but I'll go onto other commonly scored factors in games and explain why they're terrible in OoT.
Now we have the controls, which is a close second for the most important aspect in a game, and again, OoT misses the mark of something I would call such godly gameplay. Again, I dare you to go back to OoT and tell me the controls aren't clunky and that controlling link is more stiff than a priest in a playground, tell me the camera isn't poorly controlled (especially in a fight), and you look me in the eyes and tell me the underwater parts aren't some of the worst underwater controls you've ever seen in a game. If you're going to spend more than an hour somewhere with certain controls you better make sure they're at least average and not absolute ass. I often hear Master Chief's movement speed described as "wading through an ocean of oatmeal," so perhaps the movement speed of Link is best described as, "Slowly descending into the depths of an ocean filled with Jell-O."
Next, the graphics. Now, normally I never ever care about graphics, but when they affect your ability to progress that's when I complain about them. Really, the only thing that mattered negatively with the graphics were the underwater sections. Considering one major dungeon (GEE WONDER WHICH ONE?!) had a good portion of it under water, it particularly pissed me off.
Story, again, I never really complain about stories, but if a game is gonna be, "OH MY GOD HOLY SWEET JESUS GOD OF GOD TIER BEST GAME EVER THIS GAME MAKES ME MOIST!!!" I expect to maybe see some kind of deep moving story, not a "go here fetch item/rescue person."
And, finally, music and sound, no complaints here. Well done in fact.
Really, Link's Awakening is better than this, and it was released on the Game Boy. Link to the Past is much
better than this, and it was on SNES. Playing Wind Waker after having played OoT (cause God knows I wasn't going to touch another N64 Zelda after OoT) was like stepping out of some city sewers and into a fancy restaurant. I was shocked as hell, a good 3D Zelda. Honestly though, the PS1/N64 era was full of a lot of garbage games. As with all garbage dumps though there's certainly bound to be a few jewels under mounds of crap. What does that make OoT though?...Hm, imagine as if all the Zelda fans are people from the 1800s, and Ocarina of Time is a bar of aluminium sitting in a garbage heap. Back in the 1800s, aluminium was more valuable than gold. After a certain process of extracting aluminium from ores was invented we got the value of aluminium we have today. The only difference between aluminium and OoT being aluminium is still useful.
But what does that leave us with? Being generous I'd give this game a 5/10. Giving this game what I actually want to though, I give it a 3/10, my inner-child teaming with rage and frustration at idiots throughout all my years gives it a 1/10 and if it were possible it'd give it even lower, and back when it was released? A 3/10.
So why exactly did I detail so meticulously why I see OoT as the most over rated game ever? Because, people tend to call me a troll when I say it. But again, I remind you, this is all in my opinion.
tl;dr OoT is over rated and it's mostly because of gameplay
For like the 20th time, Spore was over-hyped, not over-rated. Anyone who's worth their weight in salt when it comes to checking for what a good game is knows to check/trust user reviews over pro reviews. I think the GameFAQs user reviews speak for themselves, extremely mixed reviews. Ranging from disgust at the over-hyping it got to, "Eh, it's no second coming but it's no Superman 64," to people giving high scores based on how much it can be customized and played around with in the creator. Really, in my opinion the creator is the only replay factor in the whole thing. Everything else is just meh, the modding community is meh, the music while nice and ambient doesn't really stick out, the sounds are meh, and I don't care for graphics, but I think you get the idea.
I've heard plenty of people give favorable, unwarranted reviews for Spore.
And the music was one of the best parts for me (at least, the space age and the main menu music). Has a creepy, ethereal feel to it while keeping it within the bounds of reality.
I thought Cave Story was great. Could have been a lot longer though, also could have more weapons in the game. Still an awesome game, but then again I like JRPGs like that. Minecraft didn't feel overrated back in the day when not a lot of people knew about it, but now it feels like a different game.
I'm ready to get flamed to the ground but Left 4 dead 2 was over hyped to me. Just the fact that everybody was looking foward to it and when I played it it SUCKED.
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God of War III. Definitely.
The whole God of War series was absolutely terrible; I hated it all.
Yet there are so many positive reviews (in saying that I mean 10/10) on Gamefaqs and IGN.
What is so great about it?
You play as a half naked guy who has two chainy daggers, and you run around killing the same monster over and over again with a different background and an extra health bar each time.
I think there were two underdeveloped puzzles and one fun bit where you fly through an air vent.
But seriously. I hate that game.
I honestly think that people like it for the odd bit here and there where you press O and X in a sequence to watch Krutas or whatever is name is smash some porno lizard's head in.
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This.
Fallout 3 was a good game to rent, I couldn't bring myself to play through it a second time. Also, it's nothing like the other three (FO1, 2, and Tactics)
This^
It was the most disappointing buy I've made in 5 whole years.
Not that I've bought a lot of games, but still, they really ****ed up that game.
Further, I get all the rants about Spore, but really, when have you EVER seen so many communities be so excited over a game? I say everyone got overexcited and were disappointed by the end product, seeing it missed a lot of things like blood trails and a second water stage. I agree to a point, but it was a good game.
CnC4 ruined my childhood memories. And while we're on EA, BC2 took away LAN.
Spore I'll agree with on all points.
Let's see... for over hyped game-play...
Far Cry 2 devolved into a GTA style of run across the map endlessly and being shot at by checkpoints for no discernible reason other than they hate you and you specifically.
And ARMA2, which I'm going to say, over delivered. It's too realistic. Down to driving 30 minutes around a vast landscape with your objective being "Kill this guy. Good luck." What? Who is this guy? where is he? what does he look like even? And firefight which you can fight through without ever even seeing the bad guys (Which happens in real life, let me tell you...)
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I <3 Spelunky to death. I've never made it farther than the second level of the ice stage. Ever.
Again, here we have a case of over-hyping. Which is something Peter Molyneux is ridiculously skilled in and most likely accounts for a large percentage of his game sales. I'd have to agree with what you said about most of it being decent, my favorite feature being the creature made probably 20 times more intelligent than he was in BW1. However...I didn't like how you had to "buy" practically everything, and some prices of things were ridiculously high...the Volcano Epic comes to mind. Still though, it wasn't as terribly ridden with bugs like BW1 was, watching your creature throw around armies of people was fun, and it was nice not having to micromanage every single little thing now that you had a creature to help you out more. Plus cities looked a lot nicer with the roads and such. It's a ridiculously large game though, having the expansion adds to the size.
I'm...gonna have to agree with you on this one. While I enjoyed Halo 2 quite a bit, Halo 3 was...bleh.
Did you ever play the second one? I used to think the same exact thing you thought until I played the second one...on PC that is. The second one on consoles is just garbage compared to PC.
You know, I'd say that if you took out Gary's Mod that would be a ridiculous statement. I'm not saying Halo is the best FPS, but honestly...I just thought Half-Life 2 by itself was boring as hell. It seemed like enemy occurrences were rare, the levels were way too large, and once you actually did get somewhere with assloads of enemies the super gravity gun just swept the floor. I'm not saying linearity is good typically, but in my opinion FPS games need to be linear if they aren't Deus Ex. For the record, my favorite FPS would be Perfect Dark. True, the controls for it are incredibly awkward if played on N64, but uh...let's just say a certain something fixed that.
(also Portal is incredibly over rated, but not nearly as much as the most over rated game imo, just a side note because you mentioned a Valve game)
I really hope you aren't including Unreal Tournament games when you say "Unreal" games...otherwise I totally agree.
I never played ME2, most likely because I played ME1 and found it incredibly boring. Maybe it's just because I started with Baldur's Gate way back in the day, but the last Bioware game I enjoyed was Jade Empire. It seems like Bioware's formula is starting to become as stale as Pokemon though...the difference here is it took more than one game for it to become stale...a lot more.
Nah...I'd say that this series is more "rabid fanboy/girlism" than over rated. Even pro reviewers rate the games badly.
Totally raped RA3 as well, and the whole RTS genre really.
tl;dr games are over rated and people misunderstand what over rated means
So...what game do I think is the most over rated game of all time? No, not Halo, not Pokemon, not Final Fantasy (but that's second!) it would have to be the one game that's frustrated and confused me with its popularity ever since I was eight years old, a game that won almost every "GOTY" to my knowledge that year, and a game that's won Best Game of All Time so often that it's quite literally been called Best Game of All Time the highest amount of times*1. What game is it you ask? Why just go on Gamerankings.com, look at best games of all time, tell me which game is number one.
*1 http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm - source
That's right, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Now...old 3D games have a terrible pension for not aging well. In my opinion (as this whole little rant will be) OoT is definitely no exception to this rule. So what precisely prickles my pineapple about this being so highly rated? Allow me to explain.
First of all, the thing that from my experience always makes or breaks the game, the gameplay. The gameplay, while being the tried-and-true Zelda gameplay it is, did not translate very well at all into 3D (on the first attempt at least). I really wonder if anyone who rates this game so highly actually has gone back and played it, if they did I'm sure they'd find that compared to more recent 3D Zelda games the combat seems slow/sluggish and awkward, and I'm sure anyone who has played it and doesn't think that has gotten nostalgia vision laser surgery. Secondly I found myself wandering through Hyrule and it's various catacombs much more often than I did making progress. From my vague recollection I spent maybe 60-70 hours beating this game. Yeah, I know, Zelda has puzzles. But the actual puzzles were way easier than the mysteries this game gave me. Most of the 60-70 hours I spent playing was spent traveling from point A to point B in my quest to figure out where the hell I'm supposed to go, another good portion was spent wondering around dungeons figuring out which area I missed so I can get the Item of Holy Path Revealing. Thirdly we have the bosses, outside of Dark Link, all of these guys were jokes. It's as if Dark Link absorbed all the rage you would've experienced fighting actual hard forms of these bosses and expelled it all upon you when you fought him. Fourth, and this may sound like nitpicking, but to me Hyrule's Field was incredibly devoid of any kind of life. Enemy or friendly. Fifth, the Water Temple. Four words; **** you mother ****er. The way I see it, point number two is enough to label OoT as over rated, but I'll go onto other commonly scored factors in games and explain why they're terrible in OoT.
Now we have the controls, which is a close second for the most important aspect in a game, and again, OoT misses the mark of something I would call such godly gameplay. Again, I dare you to go back to OoT and tell me the controls aren't clunky and that controlling link is more stiff than a priest in a playground, tell me the camera isn't poorly controlled (especially in a fight), and you look me in the eyes and tell me the underwater parts aren't some of the worst underwater controls you've ever seen in a game. If you're going to spend more than an hour somewhere with certain controls you better make sure they're at least average and not absolute ass. I often hear Master Chief's movement speed described as "wading through an ocean of oatmeal," so perhaps the movement speed of Link is best described as, "Slowly descending into the depths of an ocean filled with Jell-O."
Next, the graphics. Now, normally I never ever care about graphics, but when they affect your ability to progress that's when I complain about them. Really, the only thing that mattered negatively with the graphics were the underwater sections. Considering one major dungeon (GEE WONDER WHICH ONE?!) had a good portion of it under water, it particularly pissed me off.
Story, again, I never really complain about stories, but if a game is gonna be, "OH MY GOD HOLY SWEET JESUS GOD OF GOD TIER BEST GAME EVER THIS GAME MAKES ME MOIST!!!" I expect to maybe see some kind of deep moving story, not a "go here fetch item/rescue person."
And, finally, music and sound, no complaints here. Well done in fact.
Really, Link's Awakening is better than this, and it was released on the Game Boy. Link to the Past is much
better than this, and it was on SNES. Playing Wind Waker after having played OoT (cause God knows I wasn't going to touch another N64 Zelda after OoT) was like stepping out of some city sewers and into a fancy restaurant. I was shocked as hell, a good 3D Zelda. Honestly though, the PS1/N64 era was full of a lot of garbage games. As with all garbage dumps though there's certainly bound to be a few jewels under mounds of crap. What does that make OoT though?...Hm, imagine as if all the Zelda fans are people from the 1800s, and Ocarina of Time is a bar of aluminium sitting in a garbage heap. Back in the 1800s, aluminium was more valuable than gold. After a certain process of extracting aluminium from ores was invented we got the value of aluminium we have today. The only difference between aluminium and OoT being aluminium is still useful.
But what does that leave us with? Being generous I'd give this game a 5/10. Giving this game what I actually want to though, I give it a 3/10, my inner-child teaming with rage and frustration at idiots throughout all my years gives it a 1/10 and if it were possible it'd give it even lower, and back when it was released? A 3/10.
So why exactly did I detail so meticulously why I see OoT as the most over rated game ever? Because, people tend to call me a troll when I say it. But again, I remind you, this is all in my opinion.
tl;dr OoT is over rated and it's mostly because of gameplay
I've heard plenty of people give favorable, unwarranted reviews for Spore.
And the music was one of the best parts for me (at least, the space age and the main menu music). Has a creepy, ethereal feel to it while keeping it within the bounds of reality.
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Half-Life 2 (was boring as hell, didn't like it at all)
Call Of Duty: Black Ops (obvious reasons)
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I thought Cave Story was great. Could have been a lot longer though, also could have more weapons in the game. Still an awesome game, but then again I like JRPGs like that. Minecraft didn't feel overrated back in the day when not a lot of people knew about it, but now it feels like a different game.
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The whole God of War series was absolutely terrible; I hated it all.
Yet there are so many positive reviews (in saying that I mean 10/10) on Gamefaqs and IGN.
What is so great about it?
You play as a half naked guy who has two chainy daggers, and you run around killing the same monster over and over again with a different background and an extra health bar each time.
I think there were two underdeveloped puzzles and one fun bit where you fly through an air vent.
But seriously. I hate that game.
I honestly think that people like it for the odd bit here and there where you press O and X in a sequence to watch Krutas or whatever is name is smash some porno lizard's head in.
Destroy your copies.
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